2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer L Series III Review - A $123,000 Luxury SUV!

[@objective7042]

Grand Wagoneer began in the 60s and ended in the 90s. In those times, it was an affordable, regular SUV. It was few years ago, Jeep decided it to be a Luxury SUV. I'm not paying 100k+ for it, though.

[@patrickmartin3322]

The Wagoneer was the affordable one, the Super Wagoneer, and later Grand Wagoneer, very much was a luxury SUV, at least by SUV standards of the time

[@Psythik]

SUVs are a stupid waste of money anyway. For a $123K, you could own *both* a sports car for the weekends *AND* a brand new fuel-efficient minivan for hauling the kids (with cash leftover to spare). Only idiots buy SUVs. Save your money and get two cars.

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@Psythik We car enthusiasts know that minivans are just plain better, but for the general public minivan = uncool and SUV = cool, unfortunately. 🙄 The Mums and Dads don't want to give the impression of "giving up on life" as is implied by a minivan (or station wagon with wood panelling down the size). When you have CAFE rules that say SUVs are allowed to have 25% higher MPG because they are "light trucks" (yeah, right), you can see why manufacturers are incentivised to sell SUVs over minivans and station wagons.

[@MallocFree90]

do you have 100K+?

[@dividedstatesofamerica2520]

@@MallocFree90 If I did, I wouldn't be spending it on this oversized shit.

[@anthonykiedis1765]

I couldn't imagine paying 60k for a Chrysler product, let alone double that 😂

[@TassieLorenzo]

Chrysler stands for quality and excellence in engineering and manufacturing, thank you very much! ☺ /s

[@RustyZipper]

@@TassieLorenzo- lol, if that is true then b/s stands for best selling

[@anthonykiedis1765]

@@TassieLorenzo 😂😂😂

[@Psythik]

This is actually a Fiat, which makes it even *worse*.

[@aju483]

I have two new Chrysler products. The only new vehicles, and I have owned dozens, I have yet to take back for a warranty repair!

[@josephstarnes8747]

Buying that ugly thing would be worse than flushing $100k down the toilet. All them fancy doo dads will break right after the warranty expires, which will be way before the monstrosity is paid off.

[@jeremiahallyn4603]

Exactly. I don't understand why these car companies have to put a screen in every inch of a car.

[@QuickStix26]

A damn new base model Civic is like 30k nowadays. Car prices today are wildin!

[@NickLeeds]

Actually 2024 Base model Honda Civic is around 23K

[@masturch33f5]

@@NickLeeds America isn't the center of the universe, not everyone pays in usd

[@Simple_Jack82]

All that tech with the fancy dual turbo setup to barley scrape 13 mpg. How sad, could have just got a v8 like a real truck is supposed to have.

[@RustyZipper]

It’s just as efficient as the Ram EV with the V6 range extended engine….😂

[@joey86bu1]

Spending over 100k for a Jeep product, lol.

[@anthonykiedis1765]

Hell, I wouldn't even pay $70k for a Jeep product

[@bldontmatter5319]

​@@anthonykiedis1765I wouldn't pay 10k for a modern one.

[@RustyZipper]

What about a twin turbo 6 cylinder that gets 13 mpg 🤷‍♂️😂

[@anthonykiedis1765]

@@bldontmatter5319 haha, touché

[@wigletron2846]

$120k, new engine, tons of electronics. Can't wait till these all get repo'd.

[@jeremiahallyn4603]

7 screens, lol. Unbelievable. I'd hate to be the person buying this vehicle, then all those fancy screens decide to start breaking down 😒

[@wigletron2846]

This almost the same price as a G Wagon. I want whatever Jeep is smoking.

[@kevingutierrez6845]

Love the videos you make Zack!

[@andyk6796]

I'm confused. If the V6 gets only 13.2 MPG, why phase out the V8?

[@seb_1504]

Emissions regulations courtesy of the US government

[@savageislife5352]

*i6

[@ImmortanDan]

Complexity addiction, plus emissions BS

[@Me-eb3wv]

70s underpowered land boats 2.0

[@damilolaakanni]

​@Me-eb3wv this has more power than both the 5.7 and 6.4 Hemis that were previously offered though.

[@damilolaakanni]

The RAM 1500 is going to get this engine in 2025, we'll see how it holds up with the towing and offroading that those trucks might be used for.

[@drkent655]

Needs a v8

[@YourMajesticKyng]

123K for a Jeep? 😬

[@TassieLorenzo]

If it had a Maserati badge it would be OK? 🤔I don't get why people are hung up on brand, if it's the same parts found underneath the vehicle. Why can't a Jeep-badged vehicle compete head-to-head with a similar Cadillac-badged or Lincoln-badged full-size SUV?

[@YourMajesticKyng]

@@TassieLorenzo Maserati, Cadillac, and Lincoln are premium vehicles. Those brands were established, and built upon being premium brands. Jeep is not a premium brand. Most people do not think premium, expensive, or luxury when they think Jeep. Cadillac, Lincoln, and Maserati can get away with asking 100K because they have never been cheap.

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@YourMajesticKyng Fair enough. Given Chrysler discontinued Imperial, and this vehicle is not appropriate to be a Maserati, did they have a choice of brand names? Should Chrysler have brought back the Imperial name for the top-of-the-range Jeep products? The top-of-the-range Toyota product is the Toyota Century and IMO it doesn't matter that it has the same brand name as a Yaris. Nor do I think it matters that the VW Phaeton has the same brand name a Jetta. I think it's curious that people seem to care more about a brand name then the attributes of the vehicle!

[@RustyZipper]

@@YourMajesticKyng- this is a twin turbo 6 cylinder, it is the most technologically advanced and efficient engine, at 13 mpg. And I’m assuming that you have to run premium, which is $1 more per gallon…😂

[@RQ1090]

I’d rather get a used Lexus RX350L or the Toyota Grand Highlander. I prefer vehicles that don’t have to be in the shop. 🙃

[@damilolaakanni]

You won't get this kind of luxury in either of those, though. And depending on your preferences, that might be a good thing.

[@TassieLorenzo]

Some people love Jeep!

[@RustyZipper]

I’d like to see the depreciation rates …

[@davidp2888]

A buck and a quarter for a Jeep. lol

[@toms_garage]

Great video, cool to see an American luxury suv. However that mpg in 2023 is ridiculously poor

[@kc0lif]

i like the wagoneer v8.

[@Jerms995]

At the car show, we test-drove one of these! I was very surprised to see how everything on the interior wasn't all plastic! Personally I like these more than the Escalade and Navigator. I'm not usually a Jeep fan, but coming from a GM family I'd see myself driving this.

[@dave11686]

Not my cup of tea, but I can appreciate it

[@jeremiahallyn4603]

123K?? For a Jeep? That is insanity, in my opinion. I would rather take that kind of money and use it for a house. To each their own 😂

[@FreeRange4x4]

1:03 Bro I had headphones on and that bug freaked me out lol

[@NFSMAN50]

Stellantis: Jeep how big do you want the Wagoneer to be Jeep: YES. I feel like these SUVs are gonna lost value quickly. In 2028 They will cost 30k for one for 60k miles.

[@richardnottelmann58]

That will be a great time to buy 1.

[@bazilwreckerloughead]

I like it, a bit excessive & it should be a bit smaller, but nice.

[@manuelsmiley7125]

This is literally the successor to the 1972 Chrysler Imperial but for some strange reason, it's labeled a Jeep.

[@kclefthanded427]

Only time will tell about the engine because there's no way to predict reliability by just looking at it

[@RustyZipper]

Twin turbo Chrysler engines are know for reliability….

[@jpm1544]

Big ol' peice of stellantis

[@garythegamer3004]

Why would you buy a Grand Wagoneer when you can get a new Escalade for around the same price? I don't get it

[@damilolaakanni]

The interior looks better than the Escalade, IMO. The only advantage the Escalade has in that regard is the OLED gague cluster screen.

[@RustyZipper]

What about a Porsche or Mercedes?

[@The_04_Cherokee]

Ayye, look at jeep Goin to a inline 6 again, I have a 4.0 inline 6 in my 04 grand cherokee

[@yolandalindsay8368]

Grand Wagoneer is the NAME that will put the Owner/Driver among those WHO can Afford the LuXury LarGe LandOverS.

[@DaniTheNachoPirate]

This seems like Stellantis added all that cool technology shit up front but then ran out of money for the last two rows of seats.

[@rcaive0875]

I love it when a vehicle brand comes out with a model so "exclusive" and hoity-toity, they're too embarrassed to put their own name on it. 🙄 I remember when Jeep proudly put their name on the REAL Grand Wagoneer.

[@DavyHoward]

I seen a Mazda 3 in that turn lol.

[@jdrules23]

Nice suv if it was 50k. In 3 years these will be half of msrp.

[@DesertRailProductions]

This car can identify itself as a rolling hotel or minibus.

[@GarrettRaakman]

Two a day! Sweet!!!

[@fmifu4100]

I have driven these, along with every other vehicle of these same size, shape, and weight. They all feel the same to me, huge but fast and turns surprisingly well for its size

[@matthewmosier8439]

Like these. Hope to buy one to haul around my kids. It's difficult to find a good big SUV, these days

[@bldontmatter5319]

​@Jonathan-mp32xsounds worse than the V8 models

[@bldontmatter5319]

​@Jonathan-mp32xheck, that's worse than most old 4.0 and 4.2 i6 engines jeep made 30+ years ago

[@RustyZipper]

Yes, big SUV’s are so rare nowadays. I certainly wouldn’t consider a Porsche, Mercedes, Suburban for equal value

[@matthewmosier8439]

@@RustyZipper I've got 7 kids, at the moment. I know of no Porsche SUV with anything close to the capacity..

[@richardnottelmann58]

My 2015 Suburban LT 5.3 V8 got 30 MPG at 1 point. 4x4.

[@jimmyjimjims7483]

I'll buy one at auction in 3 years for $15k when they've all fallen apart lol

[@pontiacGXPfan]

With what passes for luxury in Chrysler lineup there is nothing in their whole lineup that is worth a 120,000 window sticker

[@baronvonjo1929]

I have not been hearing many positive things about this. All my non car friends who see it think it's ugly as well.

[@infernoking7504]

Ive detailed one of these there not worth over 60k build quality is questionable to much bs tech took me legit 5 mins to figure out how to disengage the parking brake because it was called autobrake.

[@marekkurwa]

I'm stoked Stellantis perfected disposable engines. It will work for 4 years and promptly granade itself right after 100k mark. Splendid.

[@barbadolid5170]

Horrifying aberration of the automotive industry would be a merciful term to describe this thing

[@doug6191]

So hyperbolic. Calm down, drama queen.

[@sambonedallas]

nice that instead of a engine that gets 20mpg we get 120k of electronics and batteries to chuck in the ocean b4 it gets paid off

[@DaRealRoachDoggJr]

Suburban competitor

[@NileshR12]

$123k makes this more expensive than a Navigator L Reserve or Black Label & the Escalade ESV. Stellantis is high off of crack & weed combined if they think anyone is going to get this for that price when it's more expensive than its competition 😂

[@PargoBlues]

I see this and all I can thik is that this car feels like an old school station wagon but raised from the ground. With all that I can only imagine what an american station wagon would look like today, I think it would be really cool if they brought them back, not only they'd be safer for pedestrians and for stability but I bet it would very much improve the handling and the millage of this behemoth

[@user-ss3ud7pp7f]

I know you were holding your nose while you tested that thing

[@user-ss3ud7pp7f]

Another good video but what a piece of junk that thing is, might as well just get a tank

[@RustyZipper]

Don’t be ridiculous, a tank wouldn’t have massaging Seats …😂

[@chadcreamer7679]

I love the front but the back window. Can’t get over the ugliness of it. But the price is way out of the league. This is no Lincoln or Cadillac.

[@Trance88]

This vehicle just screams "rich, conservative, Christian family" with like...6 kids in tow and one in the oven. Ugh.

[@balboa-capital]

They took all the features from the Range Rover SUV. For that price might as well get the original luxury SUV they copied everything from

[@bldontmatter5319]

Luxury cars used to be super reliable, like cadillac, and mercedes, and you paid extra for it + the super smooth ride. They were beautiful cars. This is a giant ugly mess with zero reliability and i have no idea why anyone would buy it

[@TassieLorenzo]

You pay for (or pay the *lease* for) the gadgets (and markup) on a luxury car these days. Long-term ownership generally does not concern the manufacturer. Once it's about 7 years old, it is meant to be junked by the second owner, and the first owner would have already gone back to upgrade to a new one at about 3-4 years.

[@RustyZipper]

Status, Jeep Grand Wagoneer is apparently the new Porsche / Mercedes but gets 13 mpg 😂

[@doug6191]

Set aside the reliability for a moment... This vehicle has a lot of nice features. It's distinctive, which is the kindest word I could use, but I realize I don't speak for everyone's tastes. This gives another option to the ubiquitous Escalade or Navigator, and who doesn't like choices? Perhaps the buyer of these $120K+ vehicles have multiple vehicles in their driveway, so reliability is only a problem if they get stranded by whatever issue it's having. I dunno... I'm just imagining how wealthy people handle notoriously unreliable expensive vehicles, such as Range Rovers.

[@wigletron2846]

​@@doug6191most people who can afford to spend $120k on a second vehicle aren't even thinking about Jeep.

[@doug6191]

@wigletron2846 Sure they are. Jeep Wranglers with a bunch of stupid shit on them.

[@ufukpolat3480]

Looks about $40-50K overpriced, it's just a Jeep.

[@gf0101]

I strongly disagree

[@birdwife589]

way too big

[@thomasrhinehart6084]

Fiat dumpster 🔥

[@timkincade9763]

Most people that talk shit never own a jeep. If your not in the jeep family stay away from them stay with what you have , jeeps are not for everyone