2023 KTM 890 Adventure R / Welcome To My Nightmare / Initial Thoughts and Review

I just purchased a brand new 2023 KTM 890 Adventure R. Why? Because the Yamaha World Raid is an EU product only. Because the Honda Transalp doesn't come with knobbies. Because 105 HP. Because cruise control. Because I like throwing away my money.
On the 890:
Vanesche Side Stand Dongle
Vanesche GPS Mount
PerunMoto Billet Rack - small
Rottweiler Performance Can Delete
Some cheap ass Chinese levers (just... no)
Doubletake Mirrors
Mosko Moto Nomad Tank Bag

[@HippieRedneck666]

Immobilizer Antena. Maybe try a new battery? Stock one could be funky

[@JohnTYoung]

Already done and it worked. Thanks !

[@TrailDad]

@@JohnTYoungpin this comment for the viewers to know. Good review!

[@MarkRussell-vp4xd]

Instal a lithium ion battery and that issue will go

[@JohnTYoung]

@@MarkRussell-vp4xd Done

[@bradleybaker8894]

When I get a non R version, swapping the stock battery out for a lithium ion battery will be done right away. That issue is not unique to KTM. @@JohnTYoung

[@BigRockMoto]

"If the 890R was as reliable as a Honda, everyone would be riding one". Truer words were never spoken! Great review. Keep us updated, please, as things progress. I have 1,000 miles on my 23, no issues yet, though I worry about the bike stranding me if I take a big trip with it. But like you correctly stated, no other ADV bike has the features or performance to match this. The Aprilia might be closest, but the dealer network issue is very real. Keep up the good reviews, we appreciate it.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Ian, I really appreciate it. It’s partially your fault I went with the Adventure over the T7. LOL. But we’ll get the bugs worked out and then go Heavy Enduro on its ass.

[@Braapncamp]

No issues on my 890R so far either except for a leaking front tyre (wheel sealing, valve or tyre bead). I had a warning flash about fuel level sensor, that was fixed with a software update at 1000Km service and semed to change how the range are presented as well compared to friends 890R's that had not been on service yet. I did not have any problems with the 790R either before i traded it in for the 890. As said, keep it up and congrats to a very nice bike to ADV on. Cheers guys 🍺

[@JacoT7_ADV]

Sorry boys, I wouldn’t own a bike that I would worry about leaving me stranded anywhere, let alone a big trip….I’ll stick to my T7. The thought of it leaving me stranded has never even crossed my mind.

[@Braapncamp]

@@JacoT7_ADV I'm on my 5th season with a 790/890 never even been close to be stranded. Not a missed single beat so far. I have full confidence to go anywhere with my bike.

[@JacoT7_ADV]

@@Braapncamp I wonder if it’s an issue with where or when they were assembled then? I’ve had lemon vehicles before that I had to just cut my losses after the car (BMW) was in the shop every other week for a new issue every single time. But the fact that he said If you have one issue with these bikes, you should immediately take it back and get your money back or get another one, makes me want to steer completely clear of any KTM with electronics. I guess I just like the simplicity of the T7, even though that comes at the expense of the performance of one of these monsters! I’ve ridden my buddy’s 890 Rally, and it’s an absolute savage. I’m glad you haven’t had any issues, and hopefully never do. Keep it pinned brother!

[@bacbladerunner]

I wanted a small light weight ADV bike to ride in my 60's. So I bought a KTM 390 in Dec. The throttle would just go to idle while riding. Sometimes 20 times in 10 miles. KTM replaced the bike. The new bike did the same. In the end, it was a bad throttle position sensor. It took me 3 months to get a working bike, but I am so happy I stuck it out. The 390, despite critics, is an unbelievably capable bike both on and off road. I am leaving in a week to ride the NMBDR with a friend. Stick it out, John, it'll be worth the effort. But, come on KTM, get your quality under control. Maybe you need to fire some people and hire a Japanese Six Sigma expert! Seriously!

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks bacbladerunner !

[@okanaganrider4332]

My friend had a 690 and the hydraulic clutch failed and he had to get it towed. It was only a year old

[@waltermitty7452]

@@JohnTYoung I’m rooting for you and the bike. I’m a total Honda Fanboy, but since they sort of refuse to build a “Halfrica” Twin, I’ve been looking hard at KTM. Currently, I’m on the fence between getting a bike that’s too heavy and too top heavy for my abilities off road (Africa Twin) or the 890/890r and worrying about reliability. One last thing, did you ever consider the Base 890?

[@waltermitty7452]

I want to like the 390 due to the amazing value. But as a very large human, I worry about its size and power and ground clearance off road. What level of off pavement do you ride with it?

[@JohnTYoung]

@@waltermitty7452 Well so far mostly road because I'm still afraid it's going to die. LOL. But eventually 50/50 maybe. Long road trips to crazy dirt roads maybe.

[@frank_jk]

I am looking forward to all your (mis)adventures on the 890 R. Despite the gremlins, I think it’s a fantastic machine. I also appreciate your candor and unapologetic no-nonsense approach to reviews, so overall I think this is a win for everyone.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thank you Frank.

[@philg666v]

No no no no no. The problems make it NO LONGER a fantastic machine.

[@JohnTYoung]

@@philg666v it’s still fantastic when it runs.

[@philg666v]

@@JohnTYoung Fair enough my man. I've spent 10 years as a technician for most major manufacturers. I just hate it for customers when something like this happens. And in my experience there is no school like the old school 👍 Trying to figure out root of the 890 immobilizer issue 🤔 my guess is either bad hard parts like the antenna or actual keys, or a wacked out ECU. Did your dealer pin point the ECU?

[@JohnTYoung]

@@philg666v my dealer is useless. They reset an engine fault light and called it good.

[@coyotef150surfer7]

The T7 owners - "Exactly"

[@JohnTYoung]

Yup

[@veiledallegory]

@@JohnTYoung exactly why I sold my 790R and now own a T7! Not a single problem with the T7 except the smile that permanently stuck on my face!

[@grego10r]

dude t7 is best there is 2 years on my and not a single problem suspension is ok for what it is ktm is peace of sh..t nothing else else.

[@kmwalsh84]

The suspension on my t7 is a DREAM compared to what I was on before, so I don't even notice it. It's all in what you plan to do with it I suppose . So far I click the settings up 7 clicks and am good to go for my weight and load out

[@tigerzzff]

i have my T7 for 3 Years now an it has 23.000 km on it, 80% Offroad... I haven't had a single problem, not one 😂

[@sumo_steve45]

This sounds EXACTLY like my experience with the 790R - that's why I got rid of it. I had about a dozen 1 hour ( 1 way) trips to the dealership and fiiiinally gave up on it. I always said "When it's running, nothing runs better.". But, it rarely ran because it was always at the dealership. So, I sold it. Sad to hear that they're still persnickety. Do better KTM!!!!

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Sumo

[@jasonscott5043]

I bought a 450RL partly because of your videos but I went the T7 route for the second stable mate. I don’t plan to push the T7 as hard as some do, I guess. No jumps or fast single track is in the plans for it, just forest roads, mnt passes and highways. It handles the baby heads and ledges really well in stock suspension form and I don’t ever worry about its reliability. The ‘Whew!’ at the end of the video when it started was classic.

[@JohnTYoung]

I’ve worked out a way to turn on the key with my fingers crossed.

[@robbiewilliams8131]

We appreciate you taking one for the team, I really want a 890r but I am skeptical, not wanting to be stranded 4 hours from a dealership. I f they were mechanical gremlins like the rear shock deal they had a while back, that I can fix but all the electrical issues I would be helpless without the software etc. I kept my Rl for short trips and took the Tenere pill for longer trips and after a few dollars and getting a feel for the altered weight load, single track isn’t bad. I look forward to future updates and videos

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Robbie. The Team can pay me back when I’m stranded 4 hours from a dealer. LOL.

[@mattirvin3121]

Hey John. Sorry to hear your troubles with your KTM. Hopefully you can get things sorted out and can enjoy it. Really appreciate your effort in making the 450L videos. Been some good info.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Matt

[@MichaelShaw206]

Had the Aprilia Tuareg 660 and really liked it (tubeless tires, great electronics, carried its weight low) but eventually sold it after buying my 450L, (much easier to pick-up and I can take it places I wouldn't dare take a 450 lb. bike - I know my limitations), which I'm now selling in anticipation of the delivery of a KOVE 450 Rally (better road manners allegedly and has switchable ABS). Eventually, that will be sold as I try another bike yet to be manufactured. Trying new bikes brings me joy and I hope this KTM eventually brings you a great deal of happiness. I look forward to your videos of the journey.

[@JohnTYoung]

I like your attitude Michael.

[@zzzsydneyhom1379]

Bad luck mate... I went through the same process a few months ago and ultimately bought a BMW 850 GS and it has been brilliant. I'm over 70 and often travel solo to quite remote areas in Australia and the Beemer hasn't skipped a beat so far. The dealer also sold KTM's and advised me strongly (on the quiet) not to buy one for the reasons you describe here and more. He was so right cause at my age there's no way I want to be stranded on my own in God knows where...

[@JohnTYoung]

That's wonderful you're still out there crushing it no matter what you're on.

[@zzzsydneyhom1379]

Thanks mate! Not sure I'd call it "crushing it" but yeah, I'd prefer to go out with a bang and not a whimper... @@JohnTYoung

[@dennismccrohan2319]

I have 2023 850GSA and totally agree with you. Longer warranty, and there are two BMW dealers within 10 miles of home. Reliability is THE criteria for an adventure bike. All the performance stuff doesn't even come close as a criteria. After all, people have toured the world on CT90s.

[@raivisverdins]

I bought new Aprilia Tuareg. Its super fun. Very good suspension. Very low weight. Full of electronis. All work fantastic...

[@JohnTYoung]

Don't rub it in!

[@Angry-Lynx]

Yes if only it could also look better it would be almost perfect 😁

[@raivisverdins]

@@Angry-Lynx Thats funny to hear from KTM perspective 😁

[@rickybobby1055]

I was going to get a ktm 890, but i stopped at a yamaha dealership first. Seen the T7 in all her glory in my favorite color and decided right then and there that i had to have her. Had my t7 for about a month and i am absolutely in love with it.

[@JohnTYoung]

Nice call

[@AutoMan84]

I was debating between the Africa Twin and 890 Adventure R. I had a Husqvarna 701 Enduro for 2 years and 22,000 Kms with absolutely 0 issues so I must have gotten lucky. I went with the Africa Twin since I was sure my luck would run out, lol. I think the 890 is perfect for your type of riding. The KTM traction control and off-road ABS are unbeatable and all other companies are years behind.

[@JohnTYoung]

And that’s how I ended up here.

[@spikejnz]

Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Better than the AT by all measures, and more comfortable for long-distance riding than the 890.

[@Angry-Lynx]

@@spikejnz ahahaha tiger better than AT, bitch please, i wasn't even considering anything from triumph. European reliability, and japanese lack of character. I got 18 AT with dct, and she not wild,. suspension could be better esp if you like aggro offroad, but overall its fantastic, i sleep without worry cuz i know she will always start, and auto box is best thing in the world, especially offroad. Also looks best.out of nowadays adventure bikes.

[@spikejnz]

@@Angry-Lynx European reliability? Meaning ... I do oil changes and lube the chain and I'm good? If so, yeah you're right. And lack of character, nah I think not. This bike has all the character you could want. Don't take my word for it--just watch every review comparison between the AT and the Tiger 900 RP, and the RP comes out on top. Every. Single. Time.

[@ZeLogicnator5k]

I got an 18' 701e with about 12k and I've not had any issues except the key breaking off in the cylinder which was probably more my fault but the keys are cheap metal.

[@chadstewart4302]

I too went from a Honda to a KTM about 12 years ago and had nothing but problems at first. After working through the issues with the KTM the bike has been extremely reliable for the past 10 years. Don’t give up on the KTM.

[@JohnTYoung]

I'm not. I got too much pride and money invested in the damn thing now. LOL.

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Hi John so sorry to hear of the problems you are having I always think theirs no screw up just different decisions, It's good to see someone else putting a spotlight on the issues, I sold my v-strom 650XT an my dads gsxr 750 k9 to buy dad an I two 390 adventures, we managed to reject them at 147 and 269 miles but it was a real battle.Then had the same problems with a Himalayan which went back at 500 miles an luckily I'd bought it at a dealer that did bmw's to so they did the right thing. I'm currently deciding whether to go back to Beemers or an Africa Twin now we are moving to Scotland. so no more trail riding hence my 300 rally going. It's such a shame as I think the concept on them are amazing and the tick alot of boxes keep up the awesome channel :) an I hope you get sorted with it

[@JohnTYoung]

Thank you!

[@grtdanes0012]

I know the Africa Twin is a little heavier than the 890 and the T7 and not as much of a dirt bike, but I have a 450RL and an AT. The AT is still good off road, great for touring, and well it’s a Honda. I love my 2022 AT, and it’s been flawless. Plus it has traction control, cruise control, abs, lean angle sensors, wheelie control etc. all for 15k.

[@JohnTYoung]

I know I know. Next time I won’t be such and idiot.

[@franksteer9568]

I’m looking forward to the new Transalp 750.

[@JohnTYoung]

@@franksteer9568 I’m looking forward to your review! Let me know how it does on baby head hills

[@jeffstrobl641]

Stick with it John. I've been a very happy owner of a 2019 790R and it's been super reliable since new. Done 30000km so far and plan on keeping it. Fantastic travel bike and as you said ready to go out of the crate. Only mods I've done are bashplate, footpegs and tower brace. Also have a 450L in my shed that I'm setting up for adventure. Tasmania has some pretty tricky country for the big girls. Great work with your channel.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Jeff!

[@jasonblack2709]

Sorry to hear you are having such a bad time with the 890. I have a 2022 890 Adventure R and it's been great. I have blown two front tires riding it like a dirt bike in sharp rocks. I bought a 2022 450RL and I have been using your videos for advice this year. I put in a Rekluse last night and checked your channel first. Much appreciated! Hope you get the 890 straightened out!

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Jason

[@ashf00t]

I didn't have to take your advice because I had already done it! Bought a '22 890 ADV July of 2022. I didn't have nearly as many electrical issues as you do but I couldn't get around the bike either not starting or only starting on 1 cylinder multiple times until I'd blip the throttle. And it didn't matter if the outside temp was cold or not. The bike didn't even have 200 miles on it. Butted heads for over 2 months between the dealer and KTM. They finally bought it back. I found a different dealer selling another '22 890 ADV and bought it in October of 2022. It's got over 2,000 miles now and starts on 2 cylinders every time! It really depends on the manufacture date with KTMs. Their quality control sucks and it shows but it really is the best fun midweight ADV bike out there!

[@JohnTYoung]

I like a happy ending...

[@jonasrice9129]

PS....this is why i still ride a DR650!😂😂😂

[@JohnTYoung]

Some people like cassettes, some like to stream. As long as you're rocking its all good.

[@petert8807]

Yippee, here we go with all new adventures on a whole new bike!! Honda should pay you handsomely for showing how great the 450L model is... and now KTM will likely get some great publicity! Ride safe, thanks for your content!

[@JohnTYoung]

Not sure about KTM's "great" publicity, but THANK YOU!

[@jarrodleis4046]

Good luck with that bike. You are going to need it. If you were touring on a 450 it seems like a big jump to the 890. IMO anything bigger than a KTM 690 or DR 650 is too big for any serious dirt riding.

[@JohnTYoung]

I plan to find out. The hard way it seems

[@adventurearyck64]

It’s so much fun, like that chick you used to date, but then you had to bail her out of jail….. Wait, have we met?😂 great video ❤

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks AA

[@MeerkatADV]

You'll love it, when it runs. Ready to Repair!

[@JohnTYoung]

So so true

[@gordboyko769]

I’m currently riding a DR650.. my next bike was planned to be a Yamaha T7 . But after drooling over the specs and some of the reviews of this new 23 ktm 890, I was starting to consider it over the T7 . Thr biggest draw to the T7 was reliably. I’m die hard yamaha fan from way back , but I do also own a ktm 300xcw. But I have heard about a lot of the quality issues with ktms modern adventure bikes . Even still … the new 890 looked so impressive that I was considering it despite the quality issues . After watching this .. I’m back to the T7 . No ifs ands or buts . Yamaha all the way . Thank you for the honest review 👍

[@JohnTYoung]

Of course Gord!

[@MrEtnorb]

I follow Rideadv in Australia and he has a fleet of T7’s. In his recent vid he said that his bikes have logged 300,000 kms with not a single significant issue. That’s impossible to ignore.

[@JohnTYoung]

@@MrEtnorb but do they have cruise control?

[@twowheelboomer]

Wouldn't trade my DR for a T7. 😉

[@jlg9240]

Thanks for the info! I want one of these bikes but will stick with my flaw free Africa Twin until KTM can make a reliable version.

[@JohnTYoung]

Don’t hold your breath

[@veiledallegory]

I sold my 790R due to the constant issues and now own a T7. My bike was in the shop for three to four weeks in the first year!

[@JohnTYoung]

I'm getting there

[@urbanadventurer5]

Nothing wrong with buying this bike once you think through the pros and cons. Lots to like about the 890 platform like you said. Also lots of gremlins and issues you may have to deal with though. People that don’t want to risk having to deal with the electronic reliability issues should explore getting the simpler Yamaha Tenere or explore getting the new Suzuki V-Strom (but who knows when we will actually see that).

[@JohnTYoung]

All true Urban

[@BigDaveTALKS]

As a new 1290SA-R owner i can say I have been fortunate in only having a leaky water pump gasket. My buddy on the other hand with his ‘23 890, hasn’t had the issue you have had but a couple non the less. That said, these bikes are AMAZING off road and surprisingly good on road. It’s a crying shame such a great handling bike is surrounded by crap electronics that were bought from WISH. Best of luck to ya and I hope everything gets ironed out.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks BigDave.

[@xxxfarcry092xxx1]

You going about it this way really helps the rest of us out! And it will keep me comimg back to this channel because I still plan on getting one. And I do most my own maintenance to.

[@JohnTYoung]

Get ready to spend a few more bucks to make it reliable...

[@keshmo12]

Sweet bike. I like my crf450L. I drop my bike too many times to have one of those big heavy bikes! Looking forward to the videos. Also putting an immobilizer on a motorcycle with a key is pretty crazy.

[@JohnTYoung]

I plan on dropping this monster too. I'll be good friends with a chiropractor soon

[@chadweber5482]

I’ve got 600 mi on my new T7 and I’ve been thinking I screwed up and should’ve got the 890R. Hope it gives ya lots miles of adventure. I’ll be rooting for ya. Maybe next season I’ll get one

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Chad. I thought giving KTM 4 years to perfect the Adventure would have been enough...

[@gxm164]

My buddy bought four 690's through the last 10 years and it's only his latest, a 2020, that gave him all sorts of headaches (all sorted now and fully kitted with the Aurora kit, a beast)

[@JinKazama92]

@@gxm164 have a 2010 690 here. the electronic updates really putting me off with these new bikes..

[@gxm164]

@@JinKazama92 The electronics are superbs, but unfortunately it seems we have to pay two prices for these nice gizmos: one in cash and one in the form of fear of the next thing stranding us out there in the boonies

[@OldArmy-vc6rd]

Welcome to the world of KTM ownership. As an owner of an 890 Adventure R and have had the same issues and one that you have not experienced yet, the KTM battery munching issue (battery going bad, on my 3rd in 18 months) I would recommend three things. A Garmin inreach , battery Jump Starter and a good friend with a truck. The KTM bikes are like a drug, you know you should not mess with them, but once you do your hooked. Looking forward to your next review.

[@JohnTYoung]

Check, check, and check. Looks like I’m a prepared KTM owner! Yay. LOL.

[@andrewwilson3054]

I sold mine because of electronic issues but wish it had turned out different, im now left with my old Yamaha Xt500 that iv had for 30 years, the sad thing is I loved the KTM but I live in a remote area and my bike is my only transport so I could just not deal with the breakdowns any longer, my Yamaha may be old and boring but I can depend on it and in my situation thats more important, hope you get yours sorted out though, they so much fun.

[@JohnTYoung]

It is a fun bike. Mines been better since the battery switch

[@fynn8252]

So I’ve been a hater of the channel for some time now. Not really a fan of your content. But I applaud you for getting another Austrian BEAST. It's like all the other manufacturers are playing a never-ending game of catch-up. Clearly, power to weight is the ultimate rule. Forget about reliability; that's just a hoax made up by the media. 😄

[@JohnTYoung]

Haters gonna hate Fynn825. Well, except for now. Sort of. I think?

[@fynn8252]

​@@JohnTYoung You are unhateable John. Nobody messes with the mountain man!

[@JohnTucci-yw7gm]

For those who ride 5 miles from home, you may be right. Reliability is no big deal. It’s just a made up thing. Some of us though ride 1000 miles or more away from civilization let alone a dealership. Let your days be about riding, not repairing your bike. Why is this so hard to understand?

[@JohnTYoung]

@@JohnTucci-yw7gm Hmmm. My Honda left me stranded in Washington...

[@RomulusReemus]

Bizarre. If you've been hating for a long time, why are you still here? Doesn't add.

[@MrEtnorb]

Although I feel your pain it’s good that you are telling the world about the KTM ownership lottery that we have all heard of. I have recently thought about the plain Adventure as an option and Ian from BRM bought one for extensive testing and just released his first ride report today. It will be fascinating to see how he goes over the months. I was a KTM avoider until 2019when I bought a 500 to convert into an adventure bike but like you, dislike it’s road prowess and bought a 690. For me, age is the No 1 factor so weight has become the main obstacle and the 690/701 is now my weight limit. Here in Australia you can get an electronic cruise control for it so with a modified seat and screen it’s half a thing on the road. Keep up the reporting as your style is pretty unique and very relatable. One other thing, the fact that Nomad sent that tank to you indicates your standing as the world’s pre eminent 450L owner.

[@JohnTYoung]

I’ve never been called preeminent. I had to look it up. Thank you.

[@Desert2snowoffwego]

John, I followed your previous travels with enthusiasm and enjoyed all your cinematography & travels throughout previous trips. Sorry to hear you're having that problem with 890 I thought about purchasing an 890 R myself, but I've heard of these problems and that is what has made me reluctant. I do love the reliability of my T7, when I turn that key it always starts & it always sounds phenomenal!

[@JohnTYoung]

I do love the T7 growl.

[@KMeyn]

Sorry to learn of your issues! Maybe this is one reason why it takes Honda for forever to deliver a new motorcycle model with all gadgets and gizmos. A maturity concern. I got my 2023 890 Adventure standard late April and have now done >5.700 kilometers. I bought it because of >55.000 almost faultless kilometers on a 2019 1290 Super Adventure. Only problem I had with it was after a battery replacement. That issue was solved by reconnecting the battery. This time around, wanted something lighter, and was not done with KTM. And the 2023 890 just looked the par, besides all the rest. I've had one issue with the 890 this far. The cruise control went dead right after a wash. Twice. It comes back when it dries up. New clutch cluster will be replaced under warranty. It seems the factory is aware of this so if anyone else gets the same issue with the CC, well you know. I hope things will be fixed and you can begin to enjoy it! Just hit me, I've been told there is a reboot sequence in the bikes. So if one gets stuck, disconnecting the battery for 20secs or so, then reconnect will initiate a boot sequence with additional trouble shooting. Oh I should add, I've had much more issues with new beemers than with my two KTMs. Just sayin' :)

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Knut

[@cparker88]

Great video John, thanks for all the info! I've got around 1,000 miles on my 23' 890 Adventure R with no problems.. yet. Keep the content coming!

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Chris

[@davidpoffenbarger3686]

I want to trade my Africa Twin for an 890 so badly but your experience is what I fear the most. I ride solo and frequently end up a long way from anybody, including cell service. I can't worry about the bike not starting/running when I hit the button. I know a LOT of people have zero issues with KTM ADV bikes but more than a few do. My dirt bike is a KTM 500EXC and been flawless but.... So for the time being, my AT will have to suffice but man do those 890s look about perfect for my style of riding.... Great content John, I appreciate you.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks David. When I get it sorted I'll let you know how I did it and we can all rip on an 890.

[@marklundeen1025]

Triumph 900 rally pro is the way to go! Can't wait to see what adventures you have.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Mark!

[@RomulusReemus]

T900 here also, and love it, but holy cow picking it up in the dirt. I don't feel these mid/large bikes belong on anything more challenging than graded dirt roads for most riders, especially riding solo. You? The ADV dirt dream is a marketing fantasy IMO. Which is why I bought a 450L, too.

[@marklundeen1025]

@@RomulusReemus l talk big, but I ride a husky 501fes. I've rode the 900 rally pro for a few hundred miles and loved it. That being said, I only took it on pavement and gravel roads. But it's sure fun for that!

[@thejourneyretold]

That sucks - such a good bike that has so many little issues that make it so you dont trust it - hope you get it all taken care of man!

[@JohnTYoung]

I got some issues fixed, some not.

[@thejourneyretold]

⁠that sucks - I ended up just buying a 2007 KTM 950 Super Enduro R. It’s an absolute BEAST of a dirt bike which is exactly what I was looking for!

[@ndrew19]

The 23' Adventure R is now produced in China by CF Moto, the base model( not actually called "S") is still produced in Austria. Not sure if its related, but I'm really leaning towards the base model.

[@JohnTYoung]

I cant blame you

[@ArmyOfZin]

Things started to fail on my KTM 790 after about 11000 miles. I’ve been limping it along but this will be my last KTM.

[@JohnTYoung]

Mine too!

[@wonkywheels1037]

Yeah I've just done the same thing here in Australia. Bought a new 2022 KTM 890 Adventure R (see my review on my channel). After 3 years on the T7 sold it for the KTM. Did my research and knew most of the issues these bikes have, and still have. One of the main issue being the cam shaft. My bike with only 250ks on the clock decided to run on one cyclinder. The bike when running is a great bike so much than my T7, but zero issues with the T7. It is really poor that KTM has not yet sorted these issues and for the money we pay it's not good enough for a modern bike. I will most likley sell mine after 12 months I just don't have the confidence in reliability. Anyway all the best with your bike.

[@JohnTYoung]

I'm going to head on over to your channel as soon as I get some more coffee. Thanks for stopping by.

[@justingoodger5383]

Back to the T7?

[@greenhornet9933]

Planning to buy this bike. Exactly why i want it is because of the things you mentioned like suspension, weight, offroad capability,etc. But i wont if it has "unsolvable" issues. Hope everything settles down and you can get on riding.

[@JohnTYoung]

I'm working on it

[@ddacaro3625]

My 22 ktm 500 is endless fun, and now that you have an 890, you already appreciate their engineer's capacity to make bikes fun, it keeps surprising me. Like you, even with a $600 seat upgrade on my 500, it can be tough on longer road stretches. In the end, it's how much dirt vs how much pavement, bottom line. Since I'm in the dirt a lot, the 500 can't be beat, it's near perfect for my skill level. My buddy who's ridden his whole life is dumping his T7 and ktm 350 for a 500 after riding mine while we're out. He does long stretches including the continental divide. But, neither of us are looking to do hardcore pavement pounding. I hope in the end the 890 issues are worked out and you can bring some new content for us in your new riding style. Thanks for all the great videos so far.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thank you and keep crushing it on that 500!

[@murlyn2]

You seem like a really nice guy. I like your video personality. That’s such a stressful thing to go through. I feel for you. I hope you get it all sorted out. I also hope KTM gets things sorted out. All the reviews I have watched have claimed that the KTMs are incredible when they are running properly. Last year I researched mid-sized ADVs to decide on what to purchase in the spring of 2023. I went back and forth between the Tiger 900, the KTMs and the Yamaha Tenere 700. In the end I made my decision based on the two most important factors to me: Reliability and large dealer network/parts availability. I bought a 2023 Tenere 700. I can understand why you went with the KTM. When running properly it is unmatched.

[@JohnTYoung]

Sooooooo much fun

[@Gen-X.Adventures]

Wow, now I'm reliving a similar nightmare with my 790 adv r. Coolant leak, decals fly off the side panels, display went black twice, display full of moisture, flame out about once a week for no apparent reason , all in one season. But when it ran, you couldn't slap the smile off my face! So i spent $1500.00 for springs and gold valves for my T7, ridden it two seasons without so much as a hiccup, buttery smooth in all respects. I worry much less about being stranded. In all fairness , i had a 690 enduro r and still have a Husky 450fe both of which flawless!! For me it seems to be the Adv. Bikes with the issues. Best of luck with yours!!

[@JohnTYoung]

Thank you!

[@searchingfor6thgear44]

Thanks for bringing us along on this journey. You are taking a significant risk not demanding a swap out for a different Adventure R. Personally, the Norden Expedition has my eye, but I can wait on the feedback on it. Godspeed! I hope you are "over the hump" on the number and variety of issues.

[@JohnTYoung]

Oh God I hope so too. Thanks

[@oldwisdom1026]

@@JohnTYoungNorden is the same bike Ktm family all share same parts Gas gas, Husky Ktm Same parts

[@Slava5127]

What difference does it make how he rides if he is constantly in service? KTM forces you to drive in anticipation of a breakdown.

[@JohnTYoung]

I gotta a SPOT and a good network of friends. I'll manage. AND it'll be a great story. Assuming bears don't eat me.

[@spadac4543]

I bought a KTM 390 adv as my first step into off road riding. It's so much fun to ride but it would cut the engine when I pulled the clutch in and takes 3-4 tries to cold start. Such a pain. Spent 4 months at the shop and their fix was 95 octane which didn't help. I completely get where you are at. I want to like 890 but after my experience with KTM I will never own one again.

[@JohnTYoung]

KTM should stick to 2 strokes and stop tempting me. LOL.

[@DMoenBC]

I hope things work out and you get the bike sorted John. I've had a '21 and now a '23 and they've both been great. A buddy has a '21 that has been a source of grief for him - little niggles to be sure, but still super annoying, so quality control seems a bit hit and miss for sure. I think once you and your dealer get through the teething pains, you should be golden! The ride is definitely worth it, mine puts a big silly grin on my face every time I ride it!

[@JohnTYoung]

I am keeping my fingers crossed

[@ernier9033]

You always strike me as a very patient guy, John, I feel for you. The scene in the video where the KTM is in the workshop it looks like a Harley mechanic - that must be a recipe for disaster! I'm sticking to my analog bike, as soon as there's a Canbus the problems seem to pile up...... Stay safe🕊

[@JohnTYoung]

They service KTM and Harley so you know they turn wrenches a lot

[@Euryheli]

I'm looking forward to the rest of your experiences on this bike. My 890R did the same thing last year a couple times, once in the woods and wouldn't start. It was a fantastic ride, but I got rid of it because of that.

[@JohnTYoung]

Fingers crossed

[@Euryheli]

@@JohnTYoung same here. I’d love to buy a Norden Expedition but I keep having flashbacks. I’ll be watching your experiences. I got a 450RL and you were a large reason, hope you get this sorted out.

[@boomcity4942]

I am sorry for your plight and appreciate your videos. I was going to buy an 890 today, but after watching your video I changed my plans. At 66 years old I feel that life is too short to spend it broken down in a hard to get to place, or at a dealership service shop. I have a 2014 KTM 500 XC-W with no kickstand switch, an ignition switch that can be bypasses, but always works, a kick starter plus battery. It sucks that KTM has to make the 890 with so many points of failure. They need to learn the basic KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) principle. Thank you for saving my time and frustrations.

[@JohnTYoung]

I hear the Desert X is pretty reliable....

[@FloppyWaffle]

Great review, I like how you are being honest about what's so great about the bike and what's not so great. Best comparison ever to that X we all wished we had. I just purchased an 890 Adventure and have yet to ride it and hopefully it'll be solid.

[@JohnTYoung]

I’m sure yours is fine.

[@bikesbabes4721]

You mention the T7 cost 5k less than the KTM, but with the KTM you get the electronics.... So, you paid extra 5k to get suspension most don't require, and electronics that cannot be trusted. They never mentioned the 890 is a KTM? I paid 10k for a T7 in 2021. So far it has never broken down and I suspect it never will. (based on the XT600/660X/660R/XT250 I had before) I congratulate myself every day for watching content like yours before buying a KTM. Please keep us posted!

[@JohnTYoung]

Weeee, the snark is thick.

[@bikesbabes4721]

@@JohnTYoung 😁 Sorry Mate, nothing personal. My gripe is with manufacturers that push "tech" faster than it can prove itself. Unlike the bike's mechanicals, the gimmicks are immature technologies, and gets updated faster than it can mature. Why don't they offer an 890 without all the crap? Then the sycophants can pay to play with toys an sensors and settings while the rest of us can enjoy riding? If we demonstrate our unhappiness in sales numbers, perhaps the "advancements" will slow down, to match the rate of reliability improvements.

[@JohnTYoung]

@@bikesbabes4721 I hear you, but I think the opposite is more probable- we buy the stuff we want to show the manufacturers. I didn’t buy a Transalp because it’s missing the features I’m looking for.

[@ciocanelwar]

I switched from a 2016 Vstrom 650xt to a Desert X and I couldn't be happier. Also got to ride the Touareg, T7, Africa Twin, Multistrada v2, 790, 890 and 901 Expedition. Even though the DDX has the best handling on the road and is a fun bike, unlike the 650(amazing engine reliability but no fun)... the KTM has something that makes it feel a lot more fun. It was very hard to choose and the money was an issue, I just got a little bit of financial luck so I said to myself that this is once in a lifetime opportunity. I am 38 and I have some back problems... Hopefully it won't get any worse or I'll have to try and get a GS since if it's dropped it rests a little higher. Ride safe!

[@JohnTYoung]

The 890 really is a lot of fun... when it works

[@KK6USYHamRadioAdventures]

John, that's terrible! Electronics problems are the not good and hard to fix. I have been looking at the Norden they probably will have the same problems I would suspect, maybe I go back wanting an Africa Twin I do like it also. Good luck I hope you can get it all fixed!

[@JohnTYoung]

I’m think the Nordens are way more reliable.

[@user-vf3gf4xq3v]

I feel for you. I’ve had a 790 adventure since 2019. It’s got 18,000 trouble free miles. I have two other KTMs and both are fine. I did have one issue with a defective switch for my accessory heated seat. It broke after two rides and KTM won’t cover it. I ordered it but KTM said no eta on delivery. So I hope I can get it before it gets cold again. There aren’t many options out there to compete with the KTM890. I was thinking about getting a new 890 Adventure, not the R it’s too tall for its weight and I have a 690 so there’s no point. Your issues give me pause to get rid of a perfectly fine running 790 Adventure bike though. If I had your problems with my 790 I’d probably get rid of it. Good luck!

[@JohnTYoung]

I'd hang on to that 790.

[@rl8701]

I dont think the T7 necessarily has to have 3000 worth of suspension unless you want to jump it. There are options well under 2000 that make the bike handle great for adventure riding on trails and moderate offroading. Just my experience, i dont ride super aggressive.

[@JohnTYoung]

Oh I want to jump it.

[@dizzyreckless5991]

Firstly, it's great you're back! I've been slowly building an adventurised (I know, not a word) Husky FE501, primarily inspired by your 450L and half way through the project, I started lusting after the 890R due to the pain in the arse trying to get bits shipped from around the world for the 501. I'm so glad you bit the bullet 'cause for now, I'll stick with the project as I can't get past the idea of being stuck in the middle of the Australian desert with a bike telling me to shove it (due to some kind of sensor failure). I'm at an age where I'd probably Sat-phone in some help, get helicoptered out while looking down to watch the brand new $27,000 bike I just set on fire out of spite!

[@JohnTYoung]

I watched the guys at MAD do an Australian desert crossing without even a hiccup. They sure didn't cook lunch over the burning dead carcass of their KTMs.

[@dizzyreckless5991]

@@JohnTYoung Yeah, they did a great job. Though I suspect that I wouldn't have access to the dealer, factory and multi-sponsor support they receive if I got in the stinker. After all, who the hell is Jonny?? (my real name btw). MAD is good, but not every bike can be the best ever if you know what I mean... :))

[@JohnTYoung]

@@dizzyreckless5991 they do seem to come across "The Greatest Bike Ever" fairly often.

[@mkramsauer]

Absolutely brilliant review!!! Hard truths that need to be addressed thank you brother 👊

[@JohnTYoung]

u r welcome

[@Brian.A.Simmons]

Sorry to hear you got a lemon man. I think you’re spot on with swapping the bike out for another one once you have problems. I’ve been pretty lucky with mine. However, I did find multiple wires in various places pinched. The entire bike runs through a CAN Bus communication protocol system, which is quite sophisticated, and makes me nervous if I ever have to troubleshoot it. I looked into buying a scanner, but they are ridiculously expensive. I do plan on trading mine in for a 2024 890 R model next year, assuming they get all the bugs worked out by then. Nevertheless, congrats with your purchase and I hope you get all the problems sorted out.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Brian

[@kicekap]

Great review and on the other hand you made me thinking about not to buy 890 ADV R. I am an owner of T7 since 2020, I bought this model for 9400$ and as you said I upgraded suspension but in cheapest and best way any user of T7 can do (I inserted KYB 25mm cartridges with small modification) and increased suspension travel from 210mm to 235mm. All mods costs me less than 2000$ and I made a lot. But after 3 years of use I made 19k km and looking for something different. I was thinking about 890 ADV R thinking that this 2023 model must be better then previous. I don't need this all TC, ABS and Cruise control. I want simply have fun and be sure that my bike will go everywhere I want and when I want. After your words I consider to stay longer with T7, maybe until KTM will start respecting their clients.

[@JohnTYoung]

Maybe they will!

[@Angry-Lynx]

That wont happen it going in wrong direction only. Situation with ktm got so bad in Poland, most mechanics wont even talk to you about them, part availability is issue, especially for older models. So i will always be huge fan of 950adv but will probably never get another ktm, ownership is just too painful, and company attitude is very wrong they dont acknowledge reliability issues at all.

[@kicekap]

@Angry Lynx November Juliet PL® Recently, I saw the KTM motorcycle sales chart from 2016 to 2022 and the sales curve is downwards. I think this means something, it started decreasing after cooperation with CF Moto. But maybe this is only data for managers, who knows?

[@csiautodetail]

Thanks for the video, after watching this video and several other about the 890 I think I will not continue my search for one of this bikes as much as I want one.

[@JohnTYoung]

I hear Ducati makes a nice off road worthy adv bike...

[@MXKID34]

When it comes to bikes like this (heavy but long distance) buy the African Twin period. I've said this a billion times, always buy Japanese because they run forever and I do the same with their cars. I used to sell Aprillia, BMW and Ducati, those bikes were always in the shop for issues.

[@JohnTYoung]

I so wanted a 450lb (or less!) Africa Twin but I couldn't find one anywhere.

[@johnnyblue4799]

Didn't you watch the whole video?! The sex is amazing with the 890!

[@MXKID34]

@John T. Young My riding buddy so badly wanted the Honda 450RL, he had 4 deposits at different dealers and 8 months later he gave in and bought the 690, extremely tall bike he's 5'11 and tip toes rocking back and fourth just getting one toe to the ground. His first week the engine started leaking oil, gets that fixed, then his electrical starts going bonkers, gets that fixed and now he's battling ecu issues. He should have waited just a few more weeks

[@liferider13]

​@@JohnTYoung Honda had their chance to create the perfect Touring Off Road bike in the 750, sadly they made it too much road, not enough dirt.

[@JohnTYoung]

@@liferider13 exactly

[@54zk]

I’ve got a 2020 790 with 30,000 mi only a few issues, shock seal, leak at water pump, two recalls dealing with brakes, she’s a three start bike but after the third crank it’s on. Love this bike

[@JohnTYoung]

I'm glad I'm not the only one forever pushing the start button

[@salan2007]

I couldn't stop laughing at your analogy with the chick you use to date. Wonderful review Thank you. I'm really sorry you're having a hard time with this particular bike. Hope the dealers give you some kind of compensation for your troubles. Good luck and hope to see more content like this from you soon.

[@JohnTYoung]

See, you know what I’m talking about.

[@jasonearles9789]

Interesting to hear your review! I am interested in the 901 Expedition. My friend just bought a 2023 Adventure R my cousin has a 2022 Adventure R I have a 2021 T7 with 25,000 miles on it and absolutely no issues whatsoever! I have ridden the TAT, some of the continental divide trail, the Alpine loop and other trails in CO, Moab’s Hells revenge & Slickrock. ETC I have a full exhaust system and a ECU reflash, and one tooth larger in the rear. I drag raced my cousin’s 2022 adventure r. The T7 has a very low first gear, so I took off in 2nd gear. My front tire was 3 feet in front of his until 77 mph, then he started to pull away from me. I love the torque curve of the T7. No matter the RPM’s when you crack the throttle you have power on tap. I can takeoff in 3rd gear and wind it out to 75 mph in 3rd. It doesn’t wheelie as easily as the 890 but I have popped it up in 3rd shifted to 4th and ridden a wheelie out to 82 mph. I have purchased some heavier, progressive springs front and rear and look forward to installing them. I’m 168 lbs, 53 yrs old I have heard that the T7 flat trackers are tuned to get 90 hp!! I love the T7 and probably will not sell it but I am interested in a 901 Expedition. I hope it doesn’t have too many issues. I have not read all the comments so you may have already answered this question but “can you get the bike started with the key issue?” If so how? Thanks, Jason

[@JohnTYoung]

You can not start it if the immobilizer is activated. It’s an anti theft device.

[@Doctor__Doom]

That's the whole point of the "light" bike problem. That as long as you're riding for the weekend, they're great bikes. But as soon as you want to spend a month on the road, you realize there's nothing better than touring bikes.

[@JohnTYoung]

Hmmmmm. We'll find out shortly.

[@dandersonjr]

I have a 2018 KTM 1290 SAR, my son has a 2023 390 Adventure and two friends have 890's. The 390 has only 500 miles so that doesn't count and the only problem I've had with mine is once when new the gas cap wouldn't unlock but once I got home it did. Hasn't happened again in 4 years but was nervous for a few weeks after. The other two 890's haven't had any problems. Being a motorcycle dealer awhile back getting a new replacement bike after a few problems realistically isn't going to happen. First the dealer guys have to exhaust all efforts. Then the factory guys will show up and completely tear apart the bike. If they can't fix then, and only then, you might have a chance of getting a new replacement bike. I've been through this process with another manufacturer when I was a dealer. One person was offered his money back.

[@JohnTYoung]

Seems a pretty raw deal, but there we are. Thanks for the insight Roadstar.

[@FluxExplorer]

The Russian roulette of hoping you don’t get a Friday afternoon 890 is the number one reason I’ve kept my 1090. And your points about the t7 are exactly why I’m on an orange bike right now.

[@JohnTYoung]

I’ve heard that a lot.

[@marksweeney7967]

Just bought a 890 to ride the New Mexico BDR route. I only have 500 miles on it, youve got me worried I'll be stuck in the middle of nowhere. Got a flat riding close to home and had trouble even finding a rear tire.

[@JohnTYoung]

Ride safe-ish!

[@ryanrumsey2830]

It was fun watching your new video, John. I love your upfront and honest reviews about stuff. Glad you will be making more video's of your adventures to come.

[@JohnTYoung]

There may be more swearing than in past videos... you've been warned.

[@theosager8087]

LOL@@JohnTYoung

[@sergiohdz5926]

Hey ; hope you get it straight soon! Looks like you are enjoying it ! Thanks for the video

[@JohnTYoung]

I am enjoying it when I am enjoying it. LOL.

[@jeffjohnson2349]

Sorry to hear about the problems with the new bike. My 2021 KTM 890 Adventure R has almost 5000 miles on it with zero mechanical or electrical issues. I also ride with a guy on a 2022 KTM 890 R with over 5000 miles and he has had zero problems as well. I know you don’t probably care, but they aren’t all breaking down. Just rode with a big group of adventure bikes in Texas and there were many KTM haters. The only bike that broke down that weekend was a T7. I’m a big fan of the T7 and would have bought one if they were more available in 2021. Just need some honest balance that KTMs do have more mechanical issues then Yamaha or Honda, but the gap is not nearly as big as the internet posts will have you believe.

[@JohnTYoung]

That means there's hope for me. Thanks Jeff

[@stevebuckley1504]

Sounds a lot like the 1290 adventure R I had a few years back. Phenomenally capable bike but plagued with so many problems you could never actually enjoy using it!

[@JohnTYoung]

That's a bummer.

[@stevebuckley1504]

@@JohnTYoung really did put me off the KTM brand tbh. Shame as they are the most capable adventure bikes out there and huge fun to ride 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@marktreloar5984]

I had a Husqvarna Norden 901, essentially the same bike. It went through multiple gearbox repairs and when that didn't fix the issue a new motor and the issue remained. This is on top of multiple engine management warning lights and many other issues. I eventually handed it back and received a full refund. Prior to the Husky I had a KTM Super Duke GT. It broke down on my first trip 500 km from home. It cost me a good some of money to get it home and then to the dealers. Zero compensation. Then the engine was found to have swarf left over and numerous other issues. As soon as warranty was done it was gone. Trouble is just love the design criteria of KTM...get the quality control right and they could be the best bikes out there IMHO. At present it's hit or miss with them. I ride Triumph now. Never a problem.

[@JohnTYoung]

All true

[@BlazinBlades]

Thank you so much for being brave and whistle blowing on ‘big orange’ 🍊😂 Unless you are a competition racer replacing the springs on the T7 would have been enough. It would not make it less top heavy and I would still go for a high exhaust routing but that would be enough. 75 hp is all you need off road(thats what pros are saying) on the street it will do 130 mph. I have no patience for being stranded in torrential rain or desert heat which is what we have here way too often in Israel 🇮🇱 🍻🍻

[@JohnTYoung]

Yupper

[@BlazinBlades]

Well… put my money where my mouth is got me a new T7 😅😅

[@skexzies3673]

Nope, I am 100% done with KTM. I've reviewed it a 1000 different ways, but I plan on riding remotely and simply cant stomach the idea of being 100 miles from nowhere and it wont start because of a software glitch with a key fob. Thanks for saving me from a horrible situation and financial nightmare.

[@JohnTYoung]

You’re welcome!

[@spartanj2957]

Over the years I've followed the repairs of all bikes and KTM was way up there with problems. I'm on my 2nd Yamaha Ten. Never been let down . Good luck with your new bike.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Spartan

[@davidrsmith2417]

I have a '23 890 Adventure (non-R) I purchased with all of the Rally Pack included - forget the demo mode. At its 600 mile dealer service, the KTM dealer her in Virginia told me that there were two different motor electronics software upgrades that they performed on May 25, 2023. The quickshifter seemed to work better (a bit smoother) afterward. So after 2200 miles now, I have had Zero Problems.

[@JohnTYoung]

Nice. Maybe I'll beg them to check again for an update.

[@MrHamish54]

Kudos on your vid and review. Spot on. I upgraded from a 2020 790 Adventure to a 2023 890R. I had the Tech pack and heated grips installed. Love the suspension and handling improvements over the 790. Only glitch is that I'm getting more mileage out of my Motoz Adventure tires than my clutches. 11565 miles since February with at least 50% of that dirt. Just installed my 4th clutch pack while on the WABDR. I've checked the oil jet and drive shaft check valve and seem to be getting good oil flow. (790/890 clutches are a wet/dry clutch that rely on oil from a jet wetting them rather than sitting in an oil bath. I bleed orange. I'm using the clutch the same as my other 4 KTMs. I went with the Recluse Radius X (manual clutch) hoping to get better service. It lasted 672 miles. To Recluse's credit they are replacing the clutch pack under warranty. I'm continuing with the 890 trying to ride keeping the revs up (higher oil pressure and less strain on the clutch) and turning off the electronic assist when off-roading. Regardless, on any long trip, I'll include a spare clutch pack just like the spare tubes we carry.

[@JohnTYoung]

Damn!

[@diegolopezlima8391]

Here’s my story: Sold my AT 1100 2019 for the 890 Adv “s”; ever since I got it it has visited the dealer 4 times: Engine check problem telling fault on ABS and fault on Traction Control. Lastly the sensor for the key has a fault turning off completely (even when the bikes going) the bike. Now I will sell it, and never ever going back to KTM…on the other side; yes, it has been the most fun bike i’ve ever had, I just don’t want to be left stranded on the side of the road no more…so sad

[@JohnTYoung]

All true.

[@armedresistance1776]

What a bummer! I have a 2020 790R and it’s been flawless. Not one issue. Sorry for your troubles. I live in Idaho BTW.

[@JohnTYoung]

Im jealous

[@victorkelley5097]

Heads up! I haven't read what others have posted, and I'm only 3 minutes into your video. Going to watch the rest BUT! I want to say, my brother had the immobilizer issue with his '22 Norden. He's at 24k miles now. I hope they can fix it for you! The dealership replaced his ignition system under warranty and he hasn't had an issue since. You are correct, it is an issue with the chip in the key not being read correctly.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Victor

[@ponytrishpip]

Test rode the 890R and did it just did not feel right for me. Bought the Tiger 900 Rally Pro instead. Good luck and I hope everything comes right soon.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks!

[@JurisKankalis]

Instant subscribe for the "you better be happy there - because you're not going anywhere" - part - and the chick who's in prison once a month. Just yesterday ordered a new chain/sprocket set for my 1999 Honda CB500 naked bike here in Latvia (jesus the prices... last time I ordered from Germany - was EUR 60, now it's EUR 100). Need to start riding again. Because two cars just don't bring the satisfaction I crave and deserve :D :D Either way - thanks for the update on this Austrian/Chinese wonder - best of luck in sorting it out from Latvia.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thank you!

[@MM-xr6tz]

Great vid John, love your analogy's. I have a Ducati Desert Sled that's never missed a beat, was going to have a look at one of these today as want an all rounder. But poor reliability would do my head in.

[@JohnTYoung]

Mine too

[@kennethsutton282]

Hi John. I know 3 blokes who've bought these here in the UK. They all swear by them, not at them. Never had a moment's trouble. Sometimes you just drop on a bad one. Me, I love em, and I think they're a great looking bike too. I've heard some blokes say they're ugly. Can't see it myself. Beauty's in the eye of the beholder I guess.

[@JohnTYoung]

I should have bought an Aussie tuned 890!

[@taylorfranklin6356]

I really wanted the 890 Adventure R but I just can't have these random issues. I know some do not have any issues what so ever but I opted for a 2022 AT and love it..

[@JohnTYoung]

Good choice

[@taylorc4476]

Race Tech Gold Valves and install runs about $1K plus shipping. Hardly $3K worth of suspension, but probably puts the T7 between the 890 and 890R. Off road, it's a straight up push, because no one is using 100hp in the dirt. It is an interesting dilemma of living in the golden era of ADV bikes: buy the affordable T7 and get it dialed for less than the 890R stocker, or just rip the band-aid of financing off and go for broke. My early third choice is the 901 Exp. Good times, indeed.

[@JohnTYoung]

She's been behaving lately so....

[@fcalin21]

First ! 😀 Thank you for the free entertainnement, John.

[@JohnTYoung]

You are on your A game!

[@BNIRc]

It's the power, and handling. I also had coolant leak that I'm currently monitoring but I still love the bike .

[@JohnTYoung]

Mine's got a slow drip too.

[@Mightycaptain]

10k miles on my 2020 790R. Zero issues. Bike has been a blast. Sorry you are having issues. That has to be a bummer.

[@JohnTYoung]

Total bummer

[@doublex632]

You put out some of the best video's over the years, thanks for that. Sorry you got a friday bike before the World Cup. See you out there Man

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Double X.

[@shassabo]

I went with the DesertX after considering the 890R and Norden. 5000 trouble free ADV miles so far and about to do a worry-free BDR on Friday. I think people need to reconsider old opinions about Ducati.

[@JohnTYoung]

I think you are right.