Honest review. Rare on a manufacturer paid trip. Thank you. Hard to beat Suzuki reliability.
@davestafford3749 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a good review you obviously did your homework about the bike before you got on it unlike some other reviewers that end up editing it up on the screen afterwards cos they can,t be bothered to research first. I have a 2018 VStrom and yes it doesn,t set your pants on fire but I,ve been all over Canada and the States and it has never let me down. Comfortable, great weather protection and cheaph ish to service and replace parts with a dealer in almost every city. Mine came with a 5 year warranty which is not very common. Of course we would all rather have a GS or Multi but at the time I bought my Strom those bikes were twice the price.
@allwheeldrive Жыл бұрын
I've had several bikes in my decades of riding, including two V1K's. I currently still have an '18 with a few tweaks that I consider one of the best all-rounders I've ever owned. Great motor, handles and stops surprisingly well (with Road 6s, progressive springs, and sintered pads), and is bulletproof. Get on and ride anywhere. And it's truly fun. Frankly, I'd give up that "build quality, character" thing the competition has for the reliability and longevity (there are many of these with well over 100K miles on them, some over 200K) - important for people who ACTUALLY put miles on their bikes. FYI, in capable hands (easily found here on YT), the 21" front wheel makes a difference, but...only if there are off-road-oriented tires on it! For the rest of us, 19" is the way.
@ThePalmatron Жыл бұрын
I would go for the base model; you know what you´re getting...Reliability, miles and miles of hassle-free use, and cheap to run.
@aldvex8541 Жыл бұрын
and a way lot of money . 3k heavier on the price vs 2022 model . Its madness
@trailblazeratv6306 Жыл бұрын
@@aldvex8541 yeah too high $$$$ They must be smoking weed !!
@ReferenceFidelityComponents Жыл бұрын
Brilliant engine. I had an SV1000 as a loan bike back in 2003 and thought then it was near to perfect as a power plant. Just the right blend of power, torque and character in a hugely reliable package. Now have as my 2nd bike a gen1 DL650 which I find equally as brilliant bar a slightly low powered lump. Still enough to have fun on. So glad the 1000 has made current emissions and still lives. They just keep making Vstroms better and better without breaking the bank.
@BlazinBlades Жыл бұрын
This is how you do a bike review!!! Absolutely perfect 👍 I remember walking in the 1996 Koln show and seeing that TL1000 unveiled… At 55 I think this new DE may just be my ‘forever bike’… Thank you again Simon A job well done 💯
@dougiequick1 Жыл бұрын
So you like chubby gals I guess....whatever not me....550ish llbs? WHY?
@writestuffmedia Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@andyedmond248 Жыл бұрын
G'day Simon. Terrific review as per usual from you and the team. I had the 2014 model (new), and I had it for 7 years. Not one mechanical problem with this great engine and I really enjoyed riding it. Unfortunately, medical conditions have made me go from road/off-road riding, to purely road. Currently have a 2017 fjr1300AE and loving the ride. If I was able to, I would certainly get the road variant of this restyled/revamped big Vee as that motor is an absolute gem. Service intervals I believe are still 6K kms, but I took care of the servicing at around the 8K mark. Bloody bullet proof these machines!! I do honestly miss the Vtwin vibration and character that it had. You never know, more surgery coming up just may allow me to own another one of these wonderful bikes. As a side note, they handle Australian conditions just bloody fine! Thanks again brother, have fun in the snow!!
@writestuffmedia Жыл бұрын
Cheers Andy, yup, reliable for sure. They've had a few years to sort it out 😉 Sorry to hear about your health man, fingers crossed you get back up and on it. Enjoy the sun!
@tsh7090 Жыл бұрын
That review was amazing. So much unbiased detail in a concise manner. I think more bike launches need to be done in inclement weather like this... Just kidding. 😉
@peted7295 Жыл бұрын
Had a new 2017 tiger 800. Paint flaking off the frame within 6 months, fastners tarnished in no time, chain wore out in 3k miles, starter button failed due to lack of proper grease and water ingress. Got fed up with that and like a mug I PX'd it for a used 2017 Tiger 1200, didn't take long for the well known clutch issues to arise. Luckily it was still within warranty, after the second repair I bought a new 2019 Strom. Yes the fastners did tarnish, but they're zinc plated just like the T, but it's not a premium bike so I can live with that. and I had the rear subframe powder coated last summer as the winter use was really starting to show Never failed to start, the OG chain was still on it and in good condition at 23k miles when I sold it just before Xmas. Which brand is better quality?
@peted7295 Жыл бұрын
@Jay Bee It's a real shame.
@NtGism Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this review was great. I personally like the looks of the Vstrom and was rather interested for this release. But the way you built in your verdict made me have second thoughts on this bike. I like something that Linus Sebastian has said a couple of times "there is no such thing as a bad product, only a bad price". And I feel the price of he Vstrom isn't right taking into account the compromises it seems to take. Compromises that people actually care about when you are "spoiled" by what else is on the market and what's the use case for such a bike
@Ian-bq7gp Жыл бұрын
When you look at the price we need to understand that inflation is at 10% but yes 3k is a lot to swallow.
@davidneale5821 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the look of the base model 😀
@Geshmaal Жыл бұрын
Cast wheels suit the 1050 more too, it's really not an off-road machine, Suzuki's spokes rust up pretty quickly and the front tyre having a tube and rear tyre being tubeless with the DE is just weird.
@fredarts6114 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this review, thank you. The scenery looked great, even the weather would be fun. Excellent commentary with useful fun facts, observations and options. Looking forward to visiting my local Suzuki dealer to try n ride. Keep up the good work. 👍
@ewganhoff Жыл бұрын
What I want to know is where are UK riders going that needs a 21" front? I can understand the Americans needing 21s on their big adventure bikes with their thousands of miles of forest trails and open desert to ride through, but in the UK? That is a huge handicap on the road for the few times you might go down a green lane for a laugh.
@drewmorg. Жыл бұрын
Ridden dual sports here in California a handful of times on the freeway. It's awful. Would never want this on any street use bike...
@terrystratford1235 Жыл бұрын
Miles of green lanes in UK! Plenty b.o.a.t to ride!
@Trumpets4me Жыл бұрын
Great review. I must admit to liking the V Strom, but there have been 2 things that I never liked on last years model, and that was the old LCD display, and that barn door exhaust. Well they've changed one, but I just can't get past the god awful looking exhaust. Triumph have done a great job of their exhaust on the Tiger range, so it can be done if they'd put their minds to it. Who ever in Suzuki signed off on that exhaust, should take a trip to the Japanese equivalent of Specsavers. I think I'll keep my 2016 650 V Strom and use the shed loads of money that Suzuki want and go touring instead.
@aldvex8541 Жыл бұрын
Triumph tiger leaks oil all over the place like a slug . I sold my tiger 1200 2020 and now looking for something reliable. The exhaust end is something you change , the engine ,i am afraid not
@MrAndrew1953 Жыл бұрын
Definitely go for the sharper clocks over any styling omissions. Don't like crowded switchblocks at all, especially in cold weather,off road Honda. These bikes are huge,in the showroom I thought a 650 was the thousand model.
@nickrider5220 Жыл бұрын
Always like Simon's reviews 👍 off roaders like tubed tyres, I'm not sure if this has much relevance with the Strom ? I think the previous version offered more for your money, a really good honest bike that one......
@4G63TDSM Жыл бұрын
Well, for a front 21, there is a huge selection of dirtier tyres. Easier for the rider to swap a tubed than tubeless as and when needed. I'd say it is a good move. I don't recall ever getting a puncture at the front.
@aldvex8541 Жыл бұрын
Nah , way too pricey for what it offers . I think im gonna take versys 1000 with elec suspension + 20 hp , 4 cyl engine , cornering lights , multimedia tft bluetooth connection , for like 1 k euro difference , Suzuki had to take a step with tech but that cost us nearly 3000 euro addition to the previous year model 2022 which was priced at 12.990 and now the new one comes at 15.500 . Its redicolous for a tft without instruments and only a quickshifter ... for me its a pass . It is indeed bullet proof and trust worthy but i dont think i am gonna give 15.500 for a 20 year old engine without heated grips ...
@ralphwarom25146 ай бұрын
I don't entirely understand how this engine used to make more power almost 20 years ago. 100hp from over 1000cc feels like a waste. Considering the completion is overnight so much more.
@gingerelvis Жыл бұрын
It's a tricky one, Suzuki have obviously stuck to the formula that has worked so well for them over the years but jacked the price up. I love a V-twin and it's nice to see a manufacturer still using one over a parallel twin. the price is a killer here, the build quality, attention to detail and toys just aren't there when you consider the competition. It's a shame the V-Strom has always been a great (maybe not trouser tightening) bike for the money but they have lost their USP. I would happily overlook the toys if the price was right. The miss match of tubed and tubeless is a turn off as well, just seems like a cost cutting afterthought.
@aldvex8541 Жыл бұрын
i tottaly agree . I would go for the v strom if the price was logical for what it offers , We are 3 k up on the price for a tft screen without connectivity and a quick shifter only for that money ! as for the DE which obviously is a killer on the looks , the tube type tire on the front is a deal breaker
@terrystratford1235 Жыл бұрын
Y is tubeless bad? I know it could be a fast blow out rather than a slow loss of air, but for off road apparently it will absorb bumps better!?
@gingerelvis Жыл бұрын
@@terrystratford1235 tube or tubeless isn't bad either way, I've ridden and repaired both. It's more that tubeless rims are more expensive to produce and now days have a better range of rubber available. Mixing tubed and tubeless front and back isn't too clever as they handle differently, we've all ridden mismatched tyres but it's not ideal
@spikeccx Жыл бұрын
You should all ways oil the wireing looms , i use wd40 and push the straw into open ends ect There are junctions in the loom !!! The loom where it wraps round head stocks PULL AND MOVE A LOT ! THATS WHY THEY BREAK If you lube the wires internaly in the loom they slip easyly aginst each other !
@splodge57 Жыл бұрын
Had a TL1000S in 98, loved it. The VStrom is now an old tech budget bike that is way overpriced. Nearly chocked on my cornflakes when you mentioned the tubed front, tubeless rear tyres. Suzuki are taking the p*ss!
@the88lundberg Жыл бұрын
I got my yellow TL1000R in The garage. Great engine, a machine with character.
@the88lundberg Жыл бұрын
@willm8182 just stay with oldies then. I mean a good bike is a good bike. I wont get rid of my TLR anytime soon.
@VoLuTheR Жыл бұрын
@Mozzer what are you on about, the 800DE are entirely new engine, it's no longer an L twin based on SV
@robsayer8028 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent review (as always). The problem with the V-Strom used to be it wasn't a bike you would aspire to, more one that you were forced into because you couldn't afford anything else. Now it would seem that not only would you not aspire to one, but there are plenty of alternatives that (in my humble opinion) are better and in the same price bracket. Even the display which is admittedly one of the better ones, isn't quite as good as the BMW tft, but also doesn't justify the price tag of the bike.
@fishingwcp Жыл бұрын
Here in sunny greece!!😂😂 ❄️ ⛄️
@pd0di Жыл бұрын
Hope they changed the clutch basket compared to gen1. Had to send mine to germany so it could be modified. Had a DL1000-03. All the time spent in the garage… changed to a T7-22. No regrets
@andrewshore262 Жыл бұрын
Nope it’s identical clutch chudder alive and well in 2023
@robertbates1079 Жыл бұрын
I suppose the bmw boxer twin is over 40 years old and that comes out as a good thing , evolution .its a good reliable all rounder bike ,I like the standard one .
@kawabungah20 Жыл бұрын
A very thorough review, given the sketchy road conditions. Y of shared excellent insight! It looks as though the big V-Strom has moved at least a "notch up" from it's "ho-hum" performance reputation. That's encouraging for this big beautiful bike. I'm still more interested in the 800 DE.
@dionbyrne4540 Жыл бұрын
That my friend was a good,as in honest review..well done you
@djking44151 Жыл бұрын
Great bike. Plenty of deals out there for 2022 XT model with full luggage
@jerzygroclinek5066 Жыл бұрын
What Is the gross vehicle weight for this new model (maximum allowable weight of the fully-loaded bike) ? Because in the case of the previous model it was very low
@Ian-bq7gp Жыл бұрын
It maybe a bit expensive but those engines last hundreds of thousands of kms so its totally bulletproof and is over engineered as the same crank was used in the TL1000 widowmaker. I have had more suzukis than any other bikes and they take some punishment and ive never been able to blow one up.
@writestuffmedia Жыл бұрын
Suzuki have certainly had plenty of time to iron out any flaws 🙂
@Ian-bq7gp Жыл бұрын
Absolutely simon. I know their crankshafts were used a lot in the 1980s onwards as they were so overengineered and a lot of dragsters firstly used Gs1000 cranks then gsxr motors or busas. It wasnt for nothing and mechanics knew it.
@terrystratford1235 Жыл бұрын
I've had a 1987 gsxr1100h for 22 years! She has 42000miles. I don't ride her much, when I do, totally amazing! Very strong engine! V strom 1050de will look great parked next to her!!
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with the DE is the 17" rear, the bike is nose high,the exact opposite of what you want on twisty roads...fit an 18" on the rear,drop the forks through the clamps 20-25mm,it'll make it handle better and just look right...personally I'd go got the 19/17" wire wheel combo too!
@darrenmilo9565 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Seems like Suzuki are pricing themselves out of the market. Currently have a 17 plate VStrom 1000 XT but would definitely go for the triumph at this new price point.
@stevemccormick8432 Жыл бұрын
I have a 17' DL1000 in yellow (not the XT). Paid NZ$13000 for it 5 years ago. Was an ex demo but the RRP was around NZ$18000 at the time. At roughly 1 UK pound = 2 NZ $$, the new models are over UK Pounds 13000 and so over NZ$26000. I like my Vstrom but at that price I would be looking elsewhere thanks.
@elitetileandstone Жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly! I purchased a 2019 1000xt Adventure just before Covid, for $10,600 US. The Adventure came equipped with aluminum panniers,heated grips and engine guards. The new DE will cost approximately 60% more.
@danharrington2976 Жыл бұрын
Great review
@thewelshhobbit6105 Жыл бұрын
Nice review, not the bike for me. Way to expensive for what you get for the money.
@andrewshore262 Жыл бұрын
Good review In challenging conditions, somebody had an off apparently (hope they’re okay). Sold my 18 DL1000 a few weeks ago, purchased as an ex demo with 250 miles on the clock I lost £2300 over a period of 4 years, never let me down, great big comfortable easy to service lazy V twin. I wouldn’t buy either of the modern day equivalents minimal progress (evolution) the engine is identical, and I reckon you’d lose a stack of money on residual values. The bike’s okay but the competition has moved on, personally I think Suzuki are taking the piss with pricing there are much better options for similar money
@johnharvey5338 Жыл бұрын
The TLS had 120 hp 30 years ago and was very spritely, over the years it got less power, they could have tuned it to 120 from years gone by and not had to gear it down, not what you call progress.
@stephenclarke6114 Жыл бұрын
Euro 5 is where the 13 bhp went
@Oscar240z Жыл бұрын
It is looking pricey and so is the new 800 V Strom at £1000 more than the Honda XL750! Looking forward to that test!
@moniquemoors1974Ай бұрын
Dream bike tho, got a t7 now. But would love the non de version just suits me better than a t7. But cant sell my t7 to, to mutch memory's...
@philipbassett5129 Жыл бұрын
Quick question, does the road biased, non DE have the altered gearing as well?
@teneretraveller8980 Жыл бұрын
Devotion above and beyond in those conditions! A confused bike, I feel. Who are they trying to compete with at that price? Tube/tubeless, fixed screen, tall but seat won't adjust? The usp was good, budget bike. I really don't know now. Safe, happy travels 👍
@stevek44496 ай бұрын
Do you need to remove the fuel tank from bike to change the air filter after a dusty ride?
@jamescavanagh9276 Жыл бұрын
Would not agree that a larger front wheel adds to agility as a rider of both 17 and 21 inches front bikes. The larger wheel has a greater gyroscopic effect that takes much greater effort to change direction, wide bars aside, you are pretty much committed to the riding line you are on, and need to compensate with lean angle to avoid going through a hedge If you get caught out which is sometimes risky on an adventure profile tire
@DJPTEXAS Жыл бұрын
What was Suzuki thinking having the launch in an area under winter conditions ?....... Why not in Alaska ?
@888buzzz Жыл бұрын
Nice gig if you can get it. All expenses paid luxury trip to Greece and free motorcycle riding. All you have to do is make a glowing, non-critical video. I’d sell out too if I could.
@writestuffmedia Жыл бұрын
Always amazes me how people see the same world so differently. It *is* a nice gig - it's the best gig - but I promise you it's not easy (at least if you do it the way I do it) and I'd question the 'luxury' assumption 🙂 But does it come across as a glowing, non-critical video?
@tomdonahue3453 Жыл бұрын
@@writestuffmedia I was just going to say Simon is one if my favorite reviewers. He strikes me as a practical, slightly cynical real world rider, which is just what I need. (I'm in the US, so he's never going to be my favourite.)
@keztate8512 Жыл бұрын
Kawasaki didn't use it in the KLV1000, the KLV was a VStrom with a Kawasaki badge, 100% Suzuki, not just the engine.
@twotter1969 Жыл бұрын
I can see these being heavily discounted.
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
Was thinking £9999 for the road version very soon?
@terrystratford1235 Жыл бұрын
@@williamrae9954 just looked on AutoTrader 22 de is 9999 to 10500. 2500 off! The new 23 is 13699 non de is only 500 less!
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
@@terrystratford1235 DE is only a 2023 model...XT is the old model
@terrystratford1235 Жыл бұрын
@@williamrae9954 the 22 is a de. 23 has more toys! I'm new to adv bikes, long time sports bike rider,now with bad back and looking for a more upright ride. I think(and could be wrong) the de replaced xt in 2021?
@chrissmith2114 Жыл бұрын
The Suzuki 'L' twin has a proper linear power curve, no surprises in store for being heavy with the throttle...
@thehowlingterror Жыл бұрын
Proper job by Mr H.
@garethharris37585 ай бұрын
I think it looks great
@stewiemac4017 Жыл бұрын
Is there a single reason to fork out this much for a 240kg V-Strom rather than the new 200kg 890 Adventure, the top rated bike in this modality, which will spank it on and off road.
@colindeans5972 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the KTM will be full of electrical faults causing it to spend its time in the repair shop. KTM = Keeps Taking Money.
@stewiemac4017 Жыл бұрын
@@colindeans5972 you are confusing the 790/890 parallel twins with the awful Gen 2 1290's 😁
@Marc-zf3xv Жыл бұрын
Tubed front and tubeless rear? Yeah non-starter for me, fail Suzuki. Saying it was due to the best tire selection is as bad as taking one front brake caliber off and saying it was because the best brake pads only came in sets of one....
@chadsacrey6274 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure about the price. It's shows $13,300 here in Canada. Big difference in pounds
@folconitro Жыл бұрын
We have to thank Suzuki for continuing to believe in the V-twin, it's practically the last one left in the segment but why they make always weird choices, such as the 17" rear rim or the 21" front wheel but with an inner tube... or the different windshield adjustment mechanism : the 1050 with the lever, DE with tools. Btw GREAT test. Wonderful weather to ride a bike like this ;) at least u can try very good the electronic.
@andygreyriderGRN Жыл бұрын
Like the Suzuki cars, made in Hungary and those also have shot up in price. My Suzuki's are middle to late 1980's. I don't trust electronic packages and if it ain't got four cylinders I am not interested. I was just curious about this model.
@1audun Жыл бұрын
1037 cc since 2014 model year.
@chrissmith2114 Жыл бұрын
I thought that the idea of fitting 17 inch wheels on bikes was to sharpen up the handling, now you are saying the opposite, that 19 inch front wheel will improve 'flickability'...
@mmahdim5912 Жыл бұрын
King suzuki
@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff Жыл бұрын
Road bike looks better, great that it has 6-Axis unit which will please many. That price is way too fruity though given what else is on offer.
@martinhughes9769 Жыл бұрын
Definitely not cheap, considering they haven’t put heated seat and grips as standard,like the colours,,that exhaust looks dreadful,
@terrybrooks7140 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant review. Your bang on vstroms have always been affordable a bit budget but very capable ive seen previous model for sale new for £ 7500 I wonder how much they will be discounted when they don't sell in any numbers I would buy tiger 900 all day long over Suzuki .
@johnnyblue4799 Жыл бұрын
That oversized exhaust can is probably so heavy that it makes it a bit easier to touch the ground with both feet. It's horrible looking...
@ianlen Жыл бұрын
Great review. it make sense.
@payas0insan0 Жыл бұрын
Hermosa Moto
@timbailey3002 Жыл бұрын
Nothing Special . Africa Twin just class
@dougiequick1 Жыл бұрын
Two words describe my sudden lack of interest in this model that initially I WAS very interested in! The two words? "Oink Oink"
@smiffter97 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki have lost the plot, the V Strom is far too expensive. You used to pick the Strom as a substitute for the Africa Twin, Not now...
@stuartmoles843 Жыл бұрын
Just buy the normal one, don’t really see the advantage of this unless you are doing a load of off road bias riding and let’s be honest most riding is 90 percent road.
@stavrossavva2432 Жыл бұрын
I love anyway mine 2022 xt
@lenetisg Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, we got what you mean just fine. But you forgot to tell us how the DE was in the dirt.
@Greggspies8 ай бұрын
Dont want a history lesson I want a bike review
@tomryner58309 ай бұрын
Suzuki Sweden doesn’t seem to have confidence in the V Strom 1050 Standard since the only version sold in Sweden is the DE. Probably has to do with the launch of the GSX S1000GX. Strangely high techy and inches close to a Tiger 1200 in price… which is just plain daft.
@ragerider6283 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. Seems like Suzuki have missed the mark with the DE & cut the wrong corners. They always seem to have a bizarre choice in them & the DE epitomises that. The tubed front & not redesigning the now non-adjustable almost adjustable screen to name but two are just odd & uneceassry. I suspect they will correct both in the not too distant future when they don't sell any DE's. Either way it seems the standard version is a better bet as if I was going off road I wouldn't choose the DE or any bike of that weight for that matter.
It makes no sense to me why suzuki put a tubed tire on the front and a tubeless on the rear
@dynamodav Жыл бұрын
Where’s the sound of the bike? Get rid of that noise cancelling mic
@writestuffmedia Жыл бұрын
If I gave you the raw audio, you'd not listen because of the wind noise!
@RichO1701e Жыл бұрын
Top quality review guys, conditions permitting. I was looking at the either the 1050 or the new 800DE, glad I went with the KTM 890 Adventure now. Going to watch Richy Vida's experience of the launch now. He's used to the snow, he brought it with him from Scotland!
@angusrodger6407 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki are extending the life of the wrong V twin!
@cai11tube Жыл бұрын
no, it doesnt have that iconic v-twin engine anymore so you cant continue naming it the vstrom... it should be renamed pstrom
@drewiliffe4855 Жыл бұрын
1050 still a v twin
@ttmadness344 ай бұрын
Er yes it does, it's still a v twin.
@AleksiJoensuu Жыл бұрын
What, so... It costs more, has a new stupid tyre setup, and no windscreen adjustment. In what way is this an upgrade? Because of the screen? Ohh boy.
@paulking8055 Жыл бұрын
No Brainer......Suzuki just handed sales to Honda and the Africa
@hughmac7423 Жыл бұрын
It might be a great bike, but it looks like every other adventure bike, and in my mind is horrible, it has no character.
@kennypool Жыл бұрын
Suzuki paid "journalists" hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha. Gimme a f n break
@allwheeldrive Жыл бұрын
So, you've ridden one? Tell us all about it.
@RichO1701e Жыл бұрын
Didn't sound like a "paid review" to me, maybe you should put your tinfoil hat back on, and run back along to your Qannon corner of the internet.
@kennypool Жыл бұрын
@@RichO1701e yeah, that sounds like fun. While you're sucking my thumb