2023 Top 7 Wonders Duel Progress Tokens Tier List

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[@NoWondersTV]

Wow, a perfectly balanced tier list!

[@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer]

Promise I didn't plan it like that

[@imperatormaximus8952]

It should be added that Masonry is probably easier to tell if you should pick it up over Philosophy or not if you have the Card Costs memorized. Also, it's pronounced Polio - ker - tiks. Also also, I would put Corruption a tier higher, which funnily enough would make it so that the S tier has a token for each victory type (Theology is more universal, but still.) The highest I've managed to have mathematics go is actually 15 points (base game surprisingly) in a game I had with a friend.

[@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer]

Thanks for the pronouncing guide for that one! Polio like the disease ker like kernel and tiks like blood sucking bugs 👌 .

[@imperatormaximus8952]

@@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer This is pretty embarrassing, I actually messed up the pronunciation guide, because I misspelled the word and it ended up carrying over, the R goes before the C. 😅 PolioRcetics.

[@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer]

@@imperatormaximus8952 ahhh all good

[@carlosmarquez2725]

What tier would you say Poliorcetics would be in if it made the opponent lose 2 coins instead of 1 per space? Likewise, what if Engineering lets you build all Buildings with a link cost for free? Not that it gives you all linking symbols (would be crazy with Urbanism), just that it lets you build them for free. Super eye-pleasing final list btw.

[@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer]

Great question! Urbanism is so great because it gives you 6 coins with the potential to give 10, 14, or even I've seen 18 coins. 18 coins in age 2 is equivalent to about 12-18 points. (If you are low on coins, the value of each new coin is worth more). Comparing everything to points, let's say Urbanism is around 12 pts. Philosophy is 7 pts. Poliotcetics as it is only destroys, maybe 5 to 10 coins of the opponent. That may be equivalent to 3 to 10 pts (2/3 or 3/3 points per coin in age 2 depending on how low on coins the opponent is). Let's say that put poliorcetics at 6.5pts vs philosophy's 7 pts. Let's say you need to reach 7 pts to be in C Tier and 10 pts to be in B Tier and 12 pts to be in A Tier. Doubling the effects of Poliorcetics from 6.5pts to 13 pts puts it as actuality formidable and makes it an A tier progress token. I could see it being used to take away all the coins an urbanism would gain or a discard would gain. You would make your opponent discard very good cards in order to have coins to do anything. You would time your collossus at the perfect moment. It would be a great choice! On the other hand, Engineering making them all free probably only saves you 1 to 3 coins the whole game so probably adds 0 to 2 more pts in value and I think I value engineering at a 4 pt progress token, so it would still stay in D Tier.

[@carlosmarquez2725]

@@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer Thank you for your detailed explanation! As I thought Engineering is hopeless, but I didn't think you would rate Poliorcetics so high, I'm definitely houseruling that one.

[@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer]

@@carlosmarquez2725 let me know how it goes!

[@yanivray]

good tier list! I was wondering if you could use the tokens from pantheon (the two that does not interact with the gods) if you are just playing the base game? Also would you balance then with house rules? for example Poliorcetics making your opponent lost 2 coins instead of 1 for each space moved?

[@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer]

@yanivray I don't like house rules but that one seems pretty minor. And yeah I was surprised they don't deal with the Pantheon

[@imperatormaximus8952]

Ngl, when I first read the title, I thought you'd only be ranking 7 tokens 😂.

[@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer]

Hahaha! I should fix that

[@moxymaniac]

Do you get double victory points for the double affect wonder one?

[@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer]

What do you mean? I think the answer is no. No way to double wonder points yet although that would be a cool feature of an expansion that might make Pyramids not the worst Wonder (+18 pts)

[@zionpenumbra]

Damn a remake?

[@BoardInTheHouseBGAplayer]

It's that time again!