2023 Triumph Tiger 1200 RP Plastics Removal & Garmin Zumo Wiring

[@compasslife6658]

You're helping a lot of owners by taking the time to make the video!

[@maxw576]

Thank You from a fellow North Eastern!

[@mtnfsh]

Thanks for posting. This video was really helpful in different approaches. Happily I didn't need to remove all the plastic shown here to get a Zumo XT2 installed on my 2023 Rally Pro. By removing just the black plastic piece shown around minute 3 of this video I was able to have enough access to use a wire puller (old coat hanger with a U bent I've had my tool box for years) to pull the new XT2 wiring back to the the rear of the bike (much as done eventually here to avoid removing gas tank). I mounted the XT2 power base and snake the power line along the guide points for the main Tiger wiring on the left side of the bike. I used some spade plugs in my electrical kit and other connectors to connect into the power source for the rear accessory power plug. This setup allows me power up Zumo XT2 when bike power is turned on - as opposed to USB connector that only powers up after starting engine or being wired directly to the battery.

[@jimboking]

This helped me to get my engine guards on, and wire up a new horn… Thanks a bunch

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Glad it was useful!

[@shegocrazy]

I'm bookmarking this video. Great work!

[@rajb2r]

Thanks for the detailed video on how to remove the plastic fairings. But I managed to sneak in the wire through available loopholes to under the seat. For now hard wired it to the battery. I had similar set up on my 2019 Tiger 1200 XCA. only downside is that you have to remember to turn off or disconnect the GPS Unit when you walk away from the bike.

[@davidhall3636]

I was very nervous about removing so much body work on a brand new bike but went really well thanks to your video. Very much appreciated. Btw you can push the centre of the plastic rivet in to release it. Then pull it back out to refit.

[@TubeHansu]

I'm about to start the same process, so this was very useful 🙂 Thanks for the video.

[@Lanciaintegrale1994]

Excellent video mate! Helped a lot thanks for sharing.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

@@Lanciaintegrale1994 happy I could help!

[@aleksandartasic7652]

Thanks for the great video. You just revealed the major weakness of the Tiger. The GPS integration seems to have been their afterthought. Not only that you do not have BMW like wheel control interface, but you took down half of the fairings to route the wire, to not only not able to place it above the TFT in the primary field of view for safety, but also to have to mount it on handlebars. That is a show stopper for me. I am carefully looking at the two bikes, aimed at adventure touring and GS has a much more adult like solution. I did what you just did on KTM and despise the short sightedness of the marketing and engineering. Great methodical explanation. Thanks.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Agreed - though there are now some mounts available to put the GPS in the center of the windscreen. I was working with what I had. I've never had any issues with the GPS on the bars before and run it the same way on my KTM. I don't really look at it all that frequently and mostly use helmet audio integration to navigate by the spoken directions. However - I also agree that the Bluetooth nav integration on the Tiger is terrible. Triumph has consistently underdelivered with its software and connectivity. Not a big deal for me since I have alternatives, but it's been a major point of complaint for riders, with many just giving up in frustration. It's effectively useless.

[@ADV-Rider-Dude]

In my opinion if you are going to put the GPS on the bars on the new Triumph then you may as well just use the USB cable and plug it into the socket on the left. I have done that as a temporary measure while I wait patiently for the proper Evotech mount to arrive from Germany. As far as the GS solution is concerned...the Navigator option that fits the GS mou t is apparently terrible and lots of people have thrown it out and bought the Zumo instead. There are adapters to make it fit the BMW mou t. You do lose the use of the wheel but most owners don't seem to mind that at all as they say they have a better overall solution than the BMW option.

[@rajb2r]

You don't need to take off all the fairings from the bike as shown in the video. I managed to sneak in the cable through available loopholes to under the seat where battery sits. It's pretty basic. For now hard wired the GPS unit to the battery. Only downside is that you have to turn off or disconnect the GPS unit when you walk away from the bike. But I will try the sumitomo connector when I get it ..(already ordered)

[@jkf0ilapse]

Thankyou… very helpful! 👍

[@brentanderson2789]

Appreciate the video. I was about to get ready to install my Garmin mount and was dreading having to figure out how to get everything off to route the wire and then ran across your video - perfectly on point. Made my job a whole lot easier. I ended up going with the Evotech mount which puts the Garmin just above the TFT and it worked out perfectly. Again, thanks for saving me tons of frustration trying to figure it out.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Where did you pull the power from? I have the evotech mount myself, but the Garmin cable was too short to reach by about 4 inches, when I used the under seat phone charger power source.

[@brentanderson2789]

@@newenglandscrambler2262 It was too short for me as well, stopped about where the battery sits. I just spliced in about 12” of additional wire and then positapped into the wires for the rear din socket. I used that because it was switched and I didn’t have any of those sumitomo connectors. Doubt I’ll ever use that under seat phone charging case. But it is still there if I ever had a need to use it.

[@Inthewind24]

I'm waiting for the Evotech mount to come back in stock. After using this, have you found that the weight of the mount and GPS causes the screen to slide down at all while riding?

[@brentanderson2789]

@@Inthewind24 it doesn’t cause my screen to slide down. I am using a Zumo XT and that unit is very light. The screen itself does vibrate to some extent, especially in bad road conditions which in turn, causes the gps unit to vibrate. I am considering changing to the Evotech mount for the handlebar clamp, but it isn’t in stock yet either. Plan to give it more time to see if I can tolerate the vibes in the gps, as I would much prefer to have the unit near my line of sight versus having to look down.

[@Inthewind24]

@@brentanderson2789 thanks for the reply. I had the evotech mount on the windscreen of my Multistrada and loved the location. But it did vibrate pretty bad. The Tiger is much smoother than that bike. I think I may try both locations like you said too.

[@andreibuzete4296]

Thanks for the very detailed video!

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Of course! Thanks for watching. I'd like to make more of these, but my day job has been crazy busy this year. Hopefully soon.

[@gavinfraser7784]

Awesome video very informative definitely going to be a great help thanks

[@MrBerry67]

Fabulous video - thank you

[@cmletona]

Thank you for this video. Totally helped me run the wiring to install my Garmin GPS. Hopefully you can do a video on how to adjust shift lever and rear break, maybe even oil change also. Thanks again

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Great idea. I'll have to do a couple of those. I've just been so busy with work and riding any free moment I can get.

[@cmletona]

@@newenglandscrambler2262 I’ll look out for new videos. Did you take your bike to dealership for first service or did you do yourself? If so, how did you clear service reminder on computer?

[@andrewshore262]

Great help I own the GT Pro version, can’t see it being any different so this is helpful. Just as a footnote, I live about 90 miles from the Triumph’s world HQ here in the U.K. and attended a factory visit, they did a Q&A session for our group so I asked what the reasoning was for charging customers to view the online workshop manual. I mean we’ve only spent 18k on their product and would’ve thought the first three years should’ve been free, which would help the first owner fit the extras they’re probably going to want without guessing / torque specs or spending more money on subscriptions (I assume that’s what you do)? Admittedly, he did pause think about it, and said he’ll pass it up the line to management 😂, on the whole though it was an interesting place to visit. Thank you for the vid it was helpful 🇬🇧

[@VittorioViaggi]

Hi, very useful how-to. The step of removing the big plastic side has been skipped, so I am not able to understand how you did. Cannot remove the piece without removing the higher crash bars?

[@Rob801]

This helped me with my Tiger 1200 RP and Zumo XT2 install... also needed to get a couple bits off the side to mount my upper crash bars. I did it a little differently though. I routed my cable down the right side of the bike and didn't have to remove the plastic on the tank. I carefully pushed a fiberglass fish tape through and pulled the cable with that. I also took the connector off the rear seat accessory plug and connected to that with a couple spade connectors (fuse supplied by Garmin spliced in line on the positive wire of course). Even though it is a simple connection, any chance it would void the warranty if the dealer noticed it? I am going in for my 600 mile service soon and am thinking I will just unplug the Garmin and plug the accessory block back onto the accessory plug and leave the end of my Garmin cable under the phone holder... just in case.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

I really doubt it would void the warranty, but I am not the one to ask. It's also different in the US versus other countries.

[@Rob801]

Thanks... I'm on the west coast (US). I'm not going to take any chances and re-connect it for the service. Not getting any warnings of any kind but my motor sounds a little rattle-y at times when idling... for lack of a better description (since I got it). I have heard the T-Plane triple can have some valve noise, just not sure if what I am hearing is that. Been following the break in to a T to be on the safe side so when when they hook it up for diagnostics they can't point at me IF there is an issue (break in rpm warning activated in riding aids and all). On the off chance there is something wrong I'd rather error to the side of caution on the GPS hook up.

[@joey0702]

Thank you for the video. Can you send me a link of the plug please. Greetings Joe

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Ordered from Cycle Terminal: HM-090 Sealed Connector Item# HM090-2 Set Black

[@coastspy85]

Very nice video. Would you mind giving the information were to order the correct sumitomo connector. I’m thinking of doing this on my Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Thanks!

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Ordered from Cycle Terminal: HM-090 Sealed Connector Item# HM090-2 Set Black

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Hi there Do you have a link to the small connector you installed?

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Sure! Ordered from Cycle Terminal: HM-090 Sealed Connector Item# HM090-2 Set Black

[@ADV-Rider-Dude]

Great video. Can you please tell me where you got the Triumph manual from that gave you the instructions you followed to take the parts off. My bike is quite different to yours as it is the Explorer version. Thanks a lot.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Yep, Triumph has made it as difficult as possible (as is typical for them) to figure out where to get their manual. It's online only and requires subscription to access (relatively cheap now, like $9 per month - it used to cost a small fortune). You can get access at triumphtechnicalinformation.com/

[@MotoRiderTube]

You should put 1200 in the video title, took me a couple of minutes to realize this isn't the 900

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Good call. I didn't realize it wasn't there. These bike names are getting to be such a mouthful haha

[@shaunarmstrong611]

Great advice.. You're bike looks like you have mounts to fit soft panniers..?? I'm just about to order mine (in Australia) - can I ask, what are the brand of pannier mounts (and bags to go with them), that you have installed..?? TIA.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Thanks! The pannier mounts are actually Triumph OEM and designed for the Triumph aluminum panniers. But I run the bike about 50/50 off-road and don't want hard cases, so I bought the Mosko Moto 35L Backcountry panniers. They come with a mounting kit that is compatible with most OEM rack systems, and they sell adapters for the weird non-standard ones. I didn't even have to remove the upper luggage latches on the OEM frames to fit the Mosko brackets and pucks. However, I did have to add a couple spacers to fix a clearance issue with a small tab at the bottom of the frames (you can use stacked washers or just fabricate something super simple with aluminum bar stock and a drill - just need to space the puck out a few millimeters). I may do a small video about that as well when I have a free moment.

[@shaunarmstrong611]

@@newenglandscrambler2262 Fantastic - big thanks for the info mate. Off to give the bike a test ride this morning. 👍🏼🇦🇺

[@kerrylebel4285]

"....you would be wrong.....because Triumph". HAHAHAHA So damn true. Great video man you saved me a ton of heart burn. Can you tell me where you got a factory manual from? I would love to pick one up.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

You're not going to like the answer. You have to subscribe to the manual online. It's like $9 a month. You can cancel any time though. Triumphtechnicalinformation.com

[@kerrylebel4285]

@@newenglandscrambler2262 yup you’re right. Didn’t like it. Lol. That’s pretty slimy of them.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

@@kerrylebel4285 the worst part is, you can't download PDFs of the pages or even print on paper (they have the site completely locked up to prevent copying) , so you have to bring your computer or tablet into the shop to use it. THAT p!ssed me off.

[@andykim6173]

What is that adapter you used to attached the garmin wires into to plug into the rear seat plugin that replaced the previous phone charger that was pulled out?

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

I think I posted the link in response to some comments. I'll update the description to add it when I have a few minutes.

[@andykim6173]

I don't see any links:(

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

@@andykim6173 I wonder if YT removed them recently. They stopped supporting live links in comments a while back. Here's the info: Ordered from Cycle Terminal: HM-090 Sealed Connector Item# HM090-2 Set Black

[@MOTOUK1]

Question is the 12v socket a cig socket or din to plug sat Nav in

[@latromm8070]

Bouth of them are din sockets. Front one is always active. The rear one turns on/off with the ignition

[@MOTOUK1]

@@latromm8070 thanks for letting me know

[@PaulCyr-x7b]

How come it cannot be simply plugged into the DIN plug right in the front of the bike....??

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

The Garmin has a weatherproof base connection system that needs to be hardwired in. There's a USB power port on the back of the unit, but it can't be used (it's blocked) when the device is in the charging cradle. Honestly I think it's a really stupid design. It's also prone to losing connection with vibration on the bars. Next unit I get will be different. It's about as indestructible as a hockey puck though, so there's that.

[@motorcyclistfromholland8856]

Great video but why dit Triumph made this metal fuel tank so difficult. Way to much welding going on.

[@shaneelson]

Quick question, I noticed your coolant level was just about the 'low' mark. Have you found that is where it seems to stay? When I got mine, the dealer had the level about midway between high and low but now its at the same level as yours. Is this Triumph normal? Very helpful video BTW.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

I had to add coolant a few times before it stabilized. Apparently they ship some of the bikes half full, and then the dealer tops off. But when you run the bike, it will suck some in and the level will drop. Basically add more as needed until the coolant level in the overflow tank remains stable after a ride.

[@shaneelson]

@@newenglandscrambler2262 Thanks for that info. I was getting a bit paranoid about it 😁 being my first brand new, brand new bike. Cheers

[@SLmetalmania]

Is this model originally manufacturered in uk or Thailand factory

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

I could check, but not sure why it matters? The Thai manufactured bikes are the same quality standard as Hinckley. Never had any issues. They are great bikes.

[@SLmetalmania]

@@newenglandscrambler2262 its not a matter but not sure wether Thailand company get manufacturered some parts by chainis manufacturers. i personally don't like chainis production whatever the qulity it is.🤗

[@rajb2r]

Where did you get the sumitomo connector?

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Ordered from Cycle Terminal: HM-090 Sealed Connector Item# HM090-2 Set Black

[@rajb2r]

@@newenglandscrambler2262 appreciate it!

[@rajb2r]

Thank you. I ordered one from Cycle Terminal. It was delivered today. Simple stuff. Now I don't have to worry about turning gps off when I walk away from the bike. 🍻 mate

[@ratbrain7743]

where do I get a little ratchet like yours

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

There's a bunch of similar ones on Amazon. All kind of no-name Chinese suppliers that seem to pop up and disappear overnight. I have 3 different sets from 3 different brands now because the original was no longer available. The quality on all of them has been perfectly fine though.

[@josericardoafonso6959]

Where did you got the plug to connect the cable to the one under the seat?

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Ordered from Cycle Terminal: HM-090 Sealed Connector Item# HM090-2 Set Black

[@thebigoaktree8401]

You removed all of those panels, upper crash bars, and even contemplated removing the the tank 😮) to run the Garmin wiring from the bars back to the battery?? Totally unnecessary Matthew McConaughey😅. But I do appreciate you showing the tear down.

[@jesseonamotorcycle]

No easier way?

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Oh I'm sure there is. But I figured I'd learn how to remove and reinstall the plastics while I'm at it and make a video. Not a lit of KZbin content on this new gen Tiger yet.

[@Fatcatztravel1250]

When u see bikes stripped down like this i have to question why are they so expensive. Plastic everywhere.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

I know, right? Like layers of plastic. Triumph bikes are generally great quality and reliable machines, but this is my first plastic-encrusted ADV bike so I'm still getting used to it. Also, I think Triumph uses the most expensive plastic in the world based on my past experience with my Scrambler. Small molded fuse cover panel in an easily breakable place was like $240 to replace. I think they make it from powdered sapphires or something.

[@jesseonamotorcycle]

Looks like alot to do lol

[@chrishart8548]

All looks a bit cheap and parts can just be pulled off. The triumph not your installation. Without those crash bars and such a heavy bike those panels look like they would get damaged very easily.

[@newenglandscrambler2262]

Crash bars are definitely necessary. These plastics (and the radiators) would get destroyed in a crash without them.

[@kerrylebel4285]

Not sure what bikes you have had in the past but the BMW GS, Tenere 700 and Norden 901 are no different buddy. Body panels are not designed to be indestructible. It's simply not possible.

[@chrishart8548]

@@kerrylebel4285 they can be different. On some bikes the panels are rather flexible on others they are very flimsy and brittle. Newer bikes seem to be the latter as it makes more money for the manufacturers if new panels are bought.

[@shegocrazy]

Make the panels more solid and it adds cost and weight and maybe also more dangerous. Better panel breaks than you. That's why new cars crumple.

[@chamade166]

Good old Triumph never changes, there's a reason this is cheaper than the GS pound for pound...and it's not just the terrible electronics/LCD.