2023 Yamaha Raptor 700 & YFZ450!

[@flyingbriando5521]

I’ll never complain about a company keeping sport quads alive….but, I am starting to get worried about the prices!!!!!

[@DUNEATV]

YES SIR!

[@DirtObseXXion]

We got while the gettin was good I guess..

[@joekearney]

Yea it sucks but SxSs are way worse . Polaris for example went up like 4-5k$ on the 181hp rzr . Can am looks to have kept their atv prices respectable compared to where they were. SxS as well , the same X3 that I have only went up $600 for 23 and got an improved primary clutch. I know y’all dont like SxS’s I’m just discussing price increases lol Can Am seems to have not went crazy like other manufacturers.

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@joekearney You SXS folks shouldn't be slumming around with us lower tax bracketers!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@joekearney]

@@DirtObseXXion Hey I mix and blend with both crowds 😂 I’m still an atv man too !

[@lewiville06]

Sport quads are so darn fun, I can not believe how they've died off...everyone wants a side by side now. Good job hanging in there yamaha!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Hear,hear!!

[@dennisbrooks186]

Well it's not that EVERYONE wants SXS....it's a mix of alot of people want SXS, not wanting to spend 10k or more on a quad when A decade ago a yfz was like 6k or maybe even 5. Not sure exactly there. I spent 10k on a 2020 700r, used with like 5 to 10 hours on it. Still showroom condition. But still was used, and was 10k after all said and done. Price tag was 8500 ish from dealer. People relate to SXS b.c. their similar to cars we drive everyday. It's alot of work physically to man handle sport quads. People r lazy lmao

[@LSDdreams808]

I finde sxs to be boring compared to sport quads.

[@DUNEATV]

Hell Yeah! RAPTOR 700R!!!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Hell yeah!! :)

[@timpence825]

Awesome video and explanation on both machines. I'm so glad they're still making them..

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks Tim!!!

[@brutelife9177]

It’s so hard to complain about the only company keeping sport atvs alive but they approaching that grey area of the conversation where you have to spend 12k out the door on the same quad you bought 5 years ago for 8k. It’s going to reach a point where 12-15k will kill these two quads in the market. Yamaha I guess will have to give lower interest rates and longer loan payments (unless you pay cash) to justify this financial endeavor. Facebook market place has plenty of 2020-2022 quads with less than 50 hours below 8k on both models. Which is good if you want one but speaks to how expensive these are and how buyers remorse sets in when not able to ride a lot.

[@DUNEATV]

Very well said!

[@brutelife9177]

@@DUNEATV thank you. I just love sport quads so much. I was a fool and sold my trx 450r. I just assumed I could get another down the line. I was wrong :/

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's exactly right! Sport ATVs are supposed to be simple and inexpensive so that they're approachable for younger folks.. 9,399 Is more than I paid for my last Grizzly and damn near what I paid for a Sportsman xp1000 in 2018.. It shouldn't be that way.. The market needs a sub 7k 400 pure sport desperately!

[@brutelife9177]

@@DirtObseXXion yea I been trolling the Kawasaki USA site. Majority of their posts I’ll comment my demands for improved atvs and even re-releases of the Kfx450r. I doubt they even care but hey, I’m doing my part. They posted their 2023 kfx 50 and 90 redesigned youth atvs, I posted how you can ride these till you graduate into a bigger sport atv, the Yamaha Yfz 450r LOLLOL

[@DUNEATV]

@@brutelife9177 LOL

[@rossierengineering5714]

Awesome video , we appreciate what you do for the sport quad community !

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks guys! Appreciate y'all making em faster and sound cooler! 🤘

[@IndianGiver350]

The stock 700R adjustable suspension is excellent. If you don’t plan on upgrading to aftermarket suspension, then it’s absolutely worth getting the R over the base model. It’s comfortable and with some stiffening of the rear shock the faster you pound through whoops the better it works

[@DirtObseXXion]

Great advice! Agree 100%

[@chrisrieger9201]

I have the base model will the r front shocks fit my base raptor

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@chrisrieger9201 Yes they will.. If you can find some take offs, that would be a good way to save some $$$

[@IndianGiver350]

@@chrisrieger9201 yes

[@LSDdreams808]

I have the 2022 R SE an i love this machine its super comfortable to ride an very forgiving machine an the power never gets old.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Couldn't agree more!

[@dirttraxtv]

Great overview! Hate to see these price increases but still a fraction of the cost of a new SXS for someone getting into offroad. Been wondering lately if with the high demand for ATVs we might see brand new recreational pure sports make a bit of a comeback 🤔

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks DT! I hope so, it would really make sense for Suzuki but I imagine they're a little gun shy after the legal debacle over LTRs...

[@dirttraxtv]

@@DirtObseXXion Would love to see LTRs make a comeback tho...

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

i sure hope sport quads make a comeback and just the whole atv scene in general perks back up. its been pretty stale. this is just a guess, but as far as the japanese id say honda would be the most likely to come back with one. kawasaki never had much interest in atvs in general as they had the most spartan lineup more often than not and the only true sport atvs they ever ACTUALLY made were the mojave, tecate, kfx450r and the kfx700 (i count it). suzuki doesnt seem to have much interest in anything lately

[@willhutton1516]

I’m imagining Polaris or can-am taking strides to make an electric 450/1000 4x4 performance quad to start the market. Hopefully with removable batteries that at least last 1.5 hours in a race.

[@brandonhackney5574]

I just have to say I appreciate your quick but very informative video..I would recommend your vid for anyone trying to choose between the 2..best one I've seen to date

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks brother!

[@ptshyu2]

Just finished the break in period on mine and have loved every minute of it

[@Z24300hp]

Those prices need to GO just like JOE!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Lol! true

[@DUNEATV]

OMG YES! Goodbye BRANDON!!!

[@joekearney]

Hey. Easy man. I’m a cool dude .

[@DUNEATV]

@@joekearney LOLOLOL

[@Z24300hp]

@@joekearney Lol

[@sethanderson9931]

Yamaha needs to bring back the banshee.

[@thomastucker5998]

I bought a new Raptor in 2004 and still enjoy it today! And I am a few weeks away from 60 years old! I have a SXS that I use for trail riding with the wife and working around the property but I honestly have more fun on the Raptor. And don’t forget that the Raptor has reverse where the YZ does not. I use reverse a lot while trail riding. The YZ will blow it away on a race course though. Don’t ask me how I know!

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's awesome! Having any machine for 20years is incredible!

[@duffydon1741]

So beautitul to learn about older riders, this is awesome

[@Fossillarson]

My 660 was blast keep up with bikes and stay ahead of the utility packs. Reverse saved my butt few times in Chadwick and Lee creek. I'm eyeballing few 700

[@nlluke5207]

How much does a plate cost on it? Here in the netherlands a car plate €5000…

[@DirtObseXXion]

You mean like registration? In the US all states are different. Where we live you don't register ATVs.

[@nlluke5207]

@@DirtObseXXion Ya here we neet to registrate it like a motor or car to drive it on public roads. For that insane scam prize….

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@nlluke5207 Yeah that's crazy! We can't drive the on roads in Kentucky though.. That varies by state too..

[@nlluke5207]

@@DirtObseXXion on car Plate’s we can ride it legal without helmet, that is kinda fun Becouse Some cops do not know that.

[@justinp7020]

So on the SE I see there is something new by the oil Reservoir

[@rickrussell498]

Planning on getting one of the 2023 raptor 709R SE as soon as possible

[@BicBoiDyl]

I'm switching from dirt bikes to atv's for several reasons. Main one is I have always wanted a Bill Balance edition yfz. Seeing him race in GNCC as a kid, and going to so many races, quads are just a blast! Can't wait to grab one

[@DirtObseXXion]

We're huge Balance fans!!! He lives in our area! Him and Huevos Grande Videos! I hope you find something you like.. Balance edition YFZs are hard to find nowadays

[@Thee_Jadex]

personally love the black and teal color this year

[@stromghouls]

love the raptor 700. it is a glorious atv. had one for a short time this summer. but i prefer my brute force 750.

[@shaneolsen9394]

Same here, I've ridden raptors, yfz, scrambler, kfx 700, scrambler and everything in-between and still love my brute 750 the most

[@DirtObseXXion]

Nothing wrong with that!

[@shaneolsen9394]

@@DirtObseXXion hell yea man gotta keep ATV's alive as long as possible

[@willhutton1516]

If you want an interesting quad to try out, I’d be willing to let you rip around on my ‘03 Wolverine 350 4x4. I’m in Cincinnati, so I shouldn’t be too far away from where you are!

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@willhutton1516 I'd love to do that!! Haven't seen a Wolverine since high-school!

[@The700XXrider]

Yeah no real changes, but at least they're still making them. And they brought them out at the normal time this year. Best machines made 👍

[@DirtObseXXion]

Really glad they came out before all the speculation.. It had been a few years since they came out this early..

[@DUNEATV]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Great video, you guys rock!

[@1911ang]

Would you lose the reliability of the bike if you put a sport exhaust on it?

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's a great question and there really isn't a straight forward answer.. On one hand you will be letting the engine breath and fire better with a Big 3, that's intake, programmer and exhaust. On the other hand you are opening the air box to potentially more foreign particals and adding components and connections to the electronics... You're also adding power which is harder on the chain, sprockets, brakes, suspension... Pretty much everything... So I'd say yes you might lose some of the reliability... But if it's done correctly it will be minimal and most guys will tell you it's worth it... Just do it right and don't add a cheap slip on...

[@1911ang]

@@DirtObseXXion thanks for that. I suppose you can't have both.

[@TerrellSpivey]

Great video!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks Terrell!

[@TerrellSpivey]

@@DirtObseXXion you got it my friend!

[@scottmcclenaghan3236]

Great info here, thanks

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks Scott! Glad to have you back brother!

[@chasharper]

Hello my friends 👋😎 , I enjoyed the video today and dropped a 👍313 I hope you all have a wicked fun week ahead. 💃💯

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks Chas!

[@h2beezy2]

ha ha ha i laughed at the color schemes, by the way do you mind if I ask what you switched your 700's suspension to? Did you also get extended a-arms/axle?

[@DirtObseXXion]

We've done a few different Raptor builds.. Mine has long travel Elka 3s and Houser XC front arms.. With that set up I kept the stock axle.. We did another one with Lone Star Star Racing +2, +1 and Long Travel Custom Axis Suspension.. I think we did a Tusk adjustable rear axle on that one.. I like both builds, the XC style build is pretty agile and good in tighter trails.. The wide build is ridiculously stable and a little more fun on wide trails.. We did a video on the XC build, and the other one is coming soon..

[@____MC____]

My favorite is still the early gray and red silver se

[@DirtObseXXion]

I don't always like all the Yamaha colors but I like the variety! Same ol green gets boring after awhile..

[@____MC____]

@@DirtObseXXion yamaha ist good at same lol

[@nickverbockel8859]

Can you please do a review on a raptor 660?

[@doc_teamwaxoffroad]

I am missing having a 450 quad.. 👍

[@DirtObseXXion]

I miss seeing you on one!!!

[@Chad-v4j]

I bought the 23 Yfz 450r se was wanting the raptor but for a guy I couldn’t make myself buy that girly blue 😂😂😂😂

[@DirtObseXXion]

Lol!!! I'm a big fan of the Raptor, but there ain't nothing wrong with a YFZ! Just gotta uncork it!

[@GreenLitYT]

Glad I bought mine in 2022. I like my grey.

[@Cartduckmann]

thanks for this

[@DirtObseXXion]

You bet!

[@Q-urn]

Very beautiful Yamaha the best

[@DirtObseXXion]

🤘

[@ajbertelson9871]

wish they put some of their blue tooth tuning they have on the mx bikes on the quads

[@DirtObseXXion]

Sounds expensive... More expensive I mean.. I did a PCV with Cuervo's tune on my Raptor.. I'm good with that, but some kind of update would definitely be nice.

[@ajbertelson9871]

@@DirtObseXXion they are never going to update either of them. Look at Yamahas tw200

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@ajbertelson9871 No they probably won;t.. As long as they stay on the market I'm ok with it.. The Market really needs a good 400cc pure sport machine though. I wish Suzuki would bring the Z400 back.

[@OdysseyOffroad]

Thank the lord for Yamaha! Can't beat yamaha team blue. 💪🏻💪🏻 #blucru

[@DirtObseXXion]

Can't beat em even with a big ole stick!

[@Nuhhhuhh]

I supported Yamaha this year #revyourheart 🥰

[@rudycornelius5119]

Already??? Nice 👍

[@DirtObseXXion]

🤟

[@jbrujones]

will a 2021 1000 XP trade for a new 700R? asking for a friend

[@DirtObseXXion]

Haha! The last ATV I had before the Raptor was a xp1000.. Never going back to 1000cc machines

[@jbrujones]

@@DirtObseXXion how come?

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@jbrujones Well the Raptor is way more fun for one.. But 1000cc ATVs are really overkill, you never really use all the power (at least trail riding) and the weight is a lot to deal with if you're trying to ride hard. The weight also tares up suspension components, my XP needed all new bushings and bearings after a year or so and the front diff blew, steering stem stripped out, clutch seized up, and the fuel pump went out.. All that lead to my next gripe, on those big twins; everything is packed in tight so they're hard to work on.. Taking the a-arms off is labor intensive let alone taking a diff out and the stem was even worse.. Ive broke lots of stuff on the Raptor too but it's so simple and easy to work on that it's never a big deal.. I like a big single in a utility ATV like the KingQuad or Grizzly.. They have plenty of power and there's a lot more space to work if you need too... But in my experience they require much less work. Partly because Japanese reliability is better but they're also lighter which makes them easier on wearable parts..

[@desertdrz7618]

With you guys being big Yamaha and Can Am fans I’m curious what you think of the new 2023 can am renegade base model with the 650 motor, base suspension and no power steering and how it might compare to/against the raptor 700r? Thinking about picking either up.

[@toddmerriott6901]

I’ll take this one guys 😂! This is a strange comparison. Raptor is way lighter, faster, better suspended, btw, way better suspension! The lower end renegades are basically a utility bike with no racks! They just look cool. I would base my decision on what and who You will be rideing with. If your buddys ride sport quads you will hate the renegade because you won’t be able to keep up with them. If they ride utility bikes then you’ll have a blast on a renegade and look cool!

[@DirtObseXXion]

So, Todd's advice is pretty spot on.. Me and the Viking tested the Renegade 1000XXC last year for ATVonDeman, it was a shootout with the Outlander XTP.. 10 out of 10 times I'd go with an Outlander.. I'd prefer the Outlander XXC but the point is, the Renegade is absolutely a utility ATV without racks.. It's never going to be as fast (in trails) or as sporty as a pure sport.. It will however, be a lot more comfortable for long rides.. But they are apples to oranges as far as ATVs go.. I can certainly understand contemplating between the two especially because they're reasonably close in price... Last thing I'll say about them is this, if you watch GNCC there's a reason why Pro 4x4 guys run in the morning class.. Sport quads with the right rider are much much faster than 4x4s.. 🤘

[@desertdrz7618]

@@DirtObseXXion copy that, thanks for the reply!

[@theviking4525]

Glad I picked up my Raptor and YFZ before the price increase. Also glad Yamaha is keeping sport quads alive!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Yeah Definitely! Looking forward to seeing you smoke some b*tches Saturday!!!

[@RioterRides]

Won’t keep them alive if the price keeps increasing. Soon they’ll be 15k out the door which may turn alot of buyers away

[@theviking4525]

@@RioterRides I thought that about side X sides but prices are in the 40K range and dealers can’t keep them on the lot. Guys will finance them for 30 years and trade in every year 🤷‍♂️

[@Repent.1]

Would you need to upgrade the clutch basket for the 450? because I've seen people saying that you should

[@erichemmelgarn4215]

I don’t own one but yes I’m afraid you do. I’ve been thinking about the same thing

[@Repent.1]

Damn

[@sbz666_]

Search for "Exploding clutch basket yfzcentral" on google and you will see why you should upgrade the clutch basket on the 2014+ models. There is a manufacturing defect with the pressure plates that can cause it to randomly explode which will obliterate your case and parts of your transmission.

[@Mr.1-OAK]

👌👌👌

[@andrewfriesen692]

I’ve had mine for about 3weeks and I love my raptor 700r however I do worry about the prices. My 2024 raptor 700r was $14,000 Canadian.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Well congratulations on the new machine, but I agree. That's a bit steep

[@Solly937]

Are you guys doing a giveaway of a raptor?

[@DirtObseXXion]

Absolutely not.. Do not contact that dude, it's a scam!

[@chrisrieger9201]

What front shocks did you end up gett

[@DirtObseXXion]

I did Elka 3s all the way around, Brian got Axis.. If you're going to do shocks you should really get all 3 because they're set up to work together

[@GERONIMO326]

Is there a big difference in ride comfort between the base Raptor compared to the SE Raptor?

[@DirtObseXXion]

Not a ton.. The shocks are definitely better on the R and SE but you notice that the most when pushing the machine hard.. If you didn't want to upgrade the shocks I'd go with the R or SE, if you plan on swapping them, the base is the perfect platform

[@GERONIMO326]

@@DirtObseXXion what's your top 5 best sport atv/sport utility for all around performance and comfort?

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@GERONIMO326 The Raptor is definitely the most comfortable. It's got the tallest seat height to footpeg ration so it's pretty easy on the knees and it's definitely got the cushiest seat of any sport ATV. It's also very easy to ride because the motor is torquey and forgiving so it's the hardest one to stall. We really like the z400 too, it has a lot characteristics similar to the Raptor but it's peppier than the Honda 400X. It's a very good trail machine. The KFX400 is basically the same. The 400EX or X is also good, I just like the Z400 better. After that you get into either some outliers that are hard to find like Honda's 700XX (I don't like IRS but it is somfortable) or Polaris's Outlaw (I'd only consider the one with the KTM 525 motor) that machine is fun but the ergonomics are very comfortable. Then there's the 450s.. The TRX450r is plentiful but I wouldn;t call any 450 comfortable, they're performace oriented and set up for aggressive riding. The LTR450 is my personal out of the box favorite but it will wear you out.. Same with the yfz450. The KFX 450 is the easiest to ride and has reverse which is nice for a trail rig, but it's still set up pretty aggressive. a DS650 is very comfortable but nearly impossible to find in good shape and there's virtually no aftermarket support for them at this point. I hop that helps. We have reviews on most of these machines, the z400 is next on our list to review.

[@GERONIMO326]

@@DirtObseXXion awesome brother, thanks so much! Super helpful. Sounds like I need to sell the ole TRX450 and get a Raptor lol. Never thought I'd say that, but for the type of riding I do, sounds like it would be better. Keep up the good work, LOVE watching your alls videos man, I have a weird feeling sport quads will make a comeback, somehow, someway

[@GERONIMO326]

@@DirtObseXXion also what's your recommended tire for rough trail riding on something like a TRX450 or Raptor?

[@waserak47]

Still riding my 400ex🤣 its been good though but I'm thinking about the 700 raptor

[@DirtObseXXion]

Hopefully you can keep the 4hundo too! There will be a time when you wish you held on to it!

[@erre6914]

My 18YFZ SE GOT it for 8500 no setup fee, tax title license. Now good luck getting one under 13K OTD.

[@joekearney]

I need to win the lottery . A raptor doesn’t work for the stuff i do but I’ve never gotten to ride a sport machine to amount to much and I want one .

[@DirtObseXXion]

These things breed in your garage I swear!

[@flyingbriando5521]

Buy 5, you won’t regret it!

[@joekearney]

@@flyingbriando5521 lol! Mannnn if I did win the lottery I’d have to buy my neighbors out because of the noise and my need for a 200x200 metal shop to fit all my toys 😂

[@joekearney]

I may look for me a used one in the distant future , I want to experience the fun of an all sport at least once . Right now just have to many priorities to focus on lol

[@floridatrailrider305]

Really wish Honda or Suzuki would come back to making sport quads.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Definitely! Especially Suzuki, I think they have the most gain and we absolutely love LTRs..

[@JoshuaS.]

Just bought my 2023 yfz450r se today 12/3/22 going to ride it for the first time tomorrow 👍 I also have a 2020 crf450r I like dirt bikes and ATV's both for different reasons 👍 although I did grow up riding ATV's

[@DirtObseXXion]

What did you think??

[@lifeatv]

To each there own brother but that SE might have my name on it, just listed the SXS and getting back to our roots. I think a good graphics kit with that orange frame would be sick!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Sweet deal! I figured some guys would like em.. Im glad you're ditching the SXS life... Life. SXS doesn't have the same ring to it 😁

[@TerrellSpivey]

Man I hadn't been by your channel in a while! Gotta swing thru soon!

[@lifeatv]

@@TerrellSpivey yes sir come see what’s new 🤟

[@willhutton1516]

I can see Yamaha doing a Wolverine 700. Similar chassis as the raptor, just 4x4 with irs.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Unfortunately they already recycled the Wolverine name in their SXSs..

[@willhutton1516]

Yup. They could bring back the Big Bear or Bear Tracker name.

[@bjgolden304]

I wish Honda still made the 400EX. One of the best ever made and had potential to be so much better.

[@DirtObseXXion]

The market definitely needs a 400 pure sport quad

[@bryce_t_u]

These prices are nutty….

[@wendellkirton3694]

Nice

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

i believe the sport quads being released in march only happened in 2021

[@DirtObseXXion]

2022 also

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

@@DirtObseXXion hopefully back on schedule from now on. the 2022s were identical color and graphics-wise to 2021 too. its cool to see they at least changed that this year and most importantly, still make them.

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@powersportsenthusiast1986 Definitely.. I wonder what happened last year, almost seems like they scaled down production because they were extremely hard to find..

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

@@DirtObseXXion they werent the easiest to find i agree. whats funny is they just started popping up in decent numbers recently, but at some dealers they arent selling too quickly.

[@canamdennis6829]

Hay guys I have disagreed with you on many things you have said in past videos ha ha that's just how it goes but anyway this time you are spot ON 😉 so keep the videos coming like I always say you guys are the best in the business and thanks alot 😊 from just just outside of Toronto Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 😊 eh 😊

[@DirtObseXXion]

If we all agreed all the time, the world would be a boring place! Truly appreciate the long time support!

[@ric2267]

Wish they'd make a v twin engine for the raptor

[@DirtObseXXion]

🤦‍♂️

[@ric2267]

@@DirtObseXXion I own a 2020 700r. Love it. But with a v twin you could build more power

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@ric2267 but would weigh 500lbs.. And where would you ride it, the freeway? Just add the big 3 to the Raptor and you uncork a good 8+hp with the right set up and tune.. That makes it blistering fast for trails.. Swap sprockets and you could probably get a solid 80mph on a street.. But at that point you might just as well get an R1..

[@ric2267]

@@DirtObseXXion You're right. The kfx 700 weighed over 500 with a b twin.

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@ric2267 I really want to grab a nice kfx700 for a review... I know a lot of guys in Europe build Raptors for the road.. I saw one with a ktm 1290 motor in it which is just insane.. Kinda makes me wonder if maybe there is something to that, but the CP2 motor in the T7, R7, XSR700, and Mt-07 would be the more logical choice as opposed to a Vtwin.. It's a parallel twin with a 270 degree crankshaft which makes it super smooth.. FB has a T7 and I have a buddies R7 in my garage right now.. It's a great engine

[@jamieszydlowski3289]

It wouldn't be that hard for Honda to get back into it. I'm a Yamaha guy, but Joel Herrick running the hybrid was killing it and that bike was pretty outdated. My understanding was the money was in developing CRF, not the TRX, so Yamaha ran away with it.

[@elpilonhn1437]

I think that only living in the United States could my dream of having a Raptor 700 come true since in my country the minimum salary of two years is not adjusted to be able to buy one of those beauty 

[@mrkim117]

waiting for my YFZ 2022 to arrive...maybe a 2023 ! they are no where no be seen in my area, all sold out before they hit the shop floor. those who think they are expensive well yammies dont give a *** cause they will sold anyway and they make a ton of money like never before !!! the demand are sky high for Raptor and YFZ

[@DirtObseXXion]

You're right about that! I hope you get your quad soon!

[@joelmiller7926]

Braaaaaap!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Bruuuuup!

[@Twigz11]

Are the Polaris quads known to be "hot garbage"?

[@johnnydrama8709]

450 all day

[@bjgolden304]

And sorry but I believe the Raptors with flames where so much better. They had red flames and one with blue flames. But the white and silver Raptor is the best looking one in my opinion.

[@DirtObseXXion]

You talking the 660? The yellow one is cool because it's Kenny Roberts colors.. Im a motogp fan.

[@erre6914]

Stock for stock the raptor 700 IS MORE RELIABLE. The 14+ yfzs need 09r clutches or they will explode and leave you stranded. That outta the way, new YFZs with pipe, vortex, and 09r clutch it will be better as it is wider and more stable. YFZs have fast acceleration YFZs LOVE TO REV have to ride them fast or else you will stress overheat the YFZs.

[@charleybrown4235]

Sold my banshee last year and bought newer raptor. Raptor is easier to ride overall. Stops better, more/better power, handles better. Reverse. I just can’t get past riding the raptor like a 2 stroke. 20 years of 2 stroke habits to break. I will find my way at some point.

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

the yfz would have taken to being ridden like a 2 stroke better. just get one of those too ;)

[@DirtObseXXion]

The Banshee is insane but definitely not the best trail machine! I know what you're saying about two stoke habits! Powersports Enthusiast is right, the yfz is pretty 2stroke-esque!

[@Finesse7r]

I own both, 450r se-16 and a 700r se-17 if your gonna be doing jumps and track riding with less trail riding go for the 450r but if your gonna be trail riding more often and doing less jumps go with the 700r both have their pros and cons but i would pick the 450r because race bike 😂

[@BUG_JUICE_24]

i have a 2016 raptor 700R for a while but ever since the 2023 700R SE got released i instantly loved the black and teal and just raptors as a whole but i havent bought either yet because of money stituation but i will 100% get one if i have the chance

[@ColinPopoviciu]

This price is too high for a 2015 specs quad. I just sold my LTZ400 for 3k not before getting like 20 messages for trades. Young people don't have $12,000 to spend on these

[@DirtObseXXion]

No argument from me, you're 100% right! Prices have gotten out of hand across the board.. It's only going to get worse too

[@LiveFreeOrRIP]

clapptor... Its a good machine but to me its a workout. I cant ride it to long or I loose my stamina quickly... I get fatigue fast. My 2007 400ex I can ride it sooo much longer and I feel just fine...

[@LiveFreeOrRIP]

As for the 450 its WORSE then the raptor. The motor is so high strung that its almost impossible to ride slow technical stuff without constantly pulling in the clutch and gas and clutch gas and clutch.. The 450 is a fast machine for sure. But as for a trail machine unless you are walker fowler forget it.. You need to have some major strength and entrance to keep that thing going for an hour at a time in rough trails.... This is MY experience from owning and riding MOST sport bikes.

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's true.. Racing is definitely not like trail riding though.. The Viking races IXCR so we get to Brycean Neal and Austin Abney ride a lot.. Those boys are bouncing off 9500-1000 RPMs constantly even in super gnarly stuff.. The quads just sound different with a pro rider on them.. And that's what they're for, but there's too high a cost to stay at the limit for most of us.. 100% agree, they really aren't meant to be trail riders..

[@erre6914]

Forgot to add on the YFZs the faster you go through rough stuff the better the suspension comes to life. On the YFZs people say suspension is stiff outta the box. If you turn down the HIGH SPEED compression to half turn softer on all three shocks it will ride more smooth if not planning on jumping it. BE SAFE PEOPLE. Keep rubber side down. If you lower the HIGH SPEED COMPRESSION ON THE SHOCKS also soften the rebound softer one click or two to help the shocks “recover”.

[@nicholasnelson3791]

Just bring the banshee design back .. no RnD involved & it would sell stupid amount of units

[@DirtObseXXion]

That's a formula for getting shut down by the EPA.. We're 20 years too deep into progressive liberalism to ever see a 2smoker on a dealer floor..

[@nicholasnelson3791]

@@DirtObseXXion I mean I don’t get it tho . They make 2 stoke dirt bikes ?

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@nicholasnelson3791 Different standards for Dirt bikes and ATVs because of "use classification", that especiallyvariesby state.Yamaha is alreadystruggling withthe YFZ meetingstandardsin California and California had a big hand in the lawsuit against Suzuki that ended uo getting the LTR450 pulled from the market. . Before too long those 2stroke bikes will probably be gone too..

[@backspace4093]

@@DirtObseXXion ​ Before long everyone will be riding battery powered Quads. Everything they touch turns to 💩

[@therealmccoy9948]

At least they got away from that hi vis yellow/green color they've had. I hate that color scheme. I like the gray and orange best for next year. My favorite was the california r model in white and blue.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I liked that white and blue too!

[@Z24300hp]

That BLUE... needs to go

[@DirtObseXXion]

Really? I liked it.. Not a fan of the grey/orange tho

[@brutelife9177]

I liked the orange grey one too, however I do like the blue one. I miss the all orange plastic. Idk how bright it would be but an all orange plastic on a white frame might pop

[@Z24300hp]

@@DirtObseXXion Yeah... that shade of blue. Not digging it. Just my opinion

[@LSDdreams808]

@@DirtObseXXion im converting my raptor to blue an white. Mine is the burgundy an gray color combo im not a fan of it.

[@slaytontiner1643]

i believe if ktm came back out with a sports squad they would shit ok Yamaha

[@DirtObseXXion]

No doubt that the 525 they used to have was a killer engine! But shoot if you adjusted for inflation they'd be $17K now because they were like 11,9 back in 08/09.

[@jacevandenberg3918]

Prices are overrated..$17,500 au..come on..not worth it at that price..buy a Harley Davidson at that price..

[@KINDIRBUDS]

06se is better looking!

[@Jerry_Drives]

Renegade is better.