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zzzzzzzzzzaper

zzzzzzzzzzaper

Күн бұрын

arrowheads and artifacts of Missouri #relics #arrowheads #metal

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@OftheOhio
@OftheOhio 2 ай бұрын
You are the man...I love tool types.
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 2 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. Thank you for watching.
@C.M.R.Artifacts-qu1ey
@C.M.R.Artifacts-qu1ey 5 ай бұрын
It's called material utilization. I'm sure they used all their materials to their maximum extent. Just like my parents who went through the depression and hard times. My mom and Dad utilized everything they could. The tribe or clan was a community and in my opinion they had to use everything to maximize the chances of survival. Thank you for showing your finds. You have a beautiful assortment of tools. I like that hammer stone a d said so when you found it. That big point or blade that's broken with the red stripe is awesome to bad its broke. God Bless and looking forward to seeing more of your videos and finds.
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. Exactly. There is still more to it yet. lol Yes the red stripe was a real bummer a table rock cross breed right there lol. Thanks for watching.👍👍💤
@darbysdownhomedetecting
@darbysdownhomedetecting 5 ай бұрын
Great information! Thanks for sharing 😊
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. I have a lot more eye openers I know most aren't ready yet by that I mean that they haven't seen enough proof. This group of collectors are very hard to convince of anything except the main flow of knowledge that is actually a lot of guesswork and based on limited knowledge. Here is another lie being told that they were more like farmers lol.. And hunter gatherers Oh boy. lol It WAS MORE LIKE THEY WERE THE HUNTED. You can see it in the weapons they devized some of these I haven't even brought forth yet like what they did with the Clubs they had to hit with... Tells a big story there. See you don't find these intact they are there but rotted away leaving behind the chips and flake blades that were >>>imbedded in the club
@treasurehuntingscotlandmud9340
@treasurehuntingscotlandmud9340 4 ай бұрын
nice find
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching brother.
@bottling.hobo.
@bottling.hobo. 5 ай бұрын
A lot of the archaic sites i discover, are full of large blades, chopping tools, exhausted points with the occasional 1st stage point or blade, and a variety of hammerstones. My area has very little chert but an abundance of high quality quartz. I've replicated quartz points and tools using only quartzite rocks and deer antlers. That is one tough rock to work. It makes me truly appreciate the craftsmanship when i stumble upon an archaic site. It aslo amazes me of how many sites are still laying right on top of the ground to this day. I believe off the evidence i see, the tool kit involved a couple sized hammerstones. One side usually ground smooth (not sure if for ergonomic or what other funtional purpose). I also find 10 or so broken wuartz blades. They usually very thick in size and the edges are wavy instead of linear. I'll also see broken or exhausted projectile points with the occasional broken knife blade. The knife blades are generally thinner and more commonly mistaken for a projectile point, like my hunting buddy always does. I've discovered campsites, and kill sites. Archaic campsites are mostly on a ridge or gap, with a spring close by. I usually find broken points and a few complete smokers. Campsites are where i also find the hammerstones. The kill sites are closer to the creek. I'd imagine its where the animal finally died, plus it would be easier to wash up as well. Kill sites are where I'll see large chopping stones, big knife blades, debitage, and small flake tools. Finding points is cool, but i find much joy in discovering an entire site and piecing it all together. I've tried replicating it over the last 3 years. I've sat in the woods by the campfire making stone points for both the atlatl and arrowhead, while the wild clay pot cooked in the firepit. I've lived where they lived, and experienced the weather through all the seasons. I understand why they chose this ridge and not that ridge. A lot of it has to do with the wind and sun. They didnt necessarily live right next to water. You wake up damp and cold. Everything is wet every morning. They slept high away from the bugs as well. Life was tough back then. As time goes on we found ways to make easier and more simple. I wonder if the same could be said then, why the technology changed and the points became simple and mass produced?
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
I like that brother what you shared. It is good to see someone else with their eyes open and the mind running and absorbing all to get the bigger picture. I like the one that they lived in the shelter lol. I know different. They lived on top of the shelters where the heat rises, sure they would go in them during storms but they spent most time above the shelter. for a number of reasons. Like I said things weren't all happy go lucky and farmed the land lol like the experts say. They were being hunted by other inhabitents and people in other tribes. That is the info that is being hidden. It is very evident things were not good always hiding away in a corner of the wild. It's like they were always packed and ready to move in an instants notice. Also another reason they lived on top was to be able to see their enemys comming.. I also can elaborate on this but choose to not be so open discussing this topic as others will argue that point from lack of absorbing what they see in a site..Sure later years when the bigger dangers were gone or dwindled down they farmed but not during the early years that came way later. Thanks for watching brother.👍👍💤
@coyotearrowheadhunting3083
@coyotearrowheadhunting3083 5 ай бұрын
Without a doubt, the tips and techniques of rock work evolved according to the hunting artifact that the natives used over time. Spear, Atlatl, bow. BLESSINGS TO MY GREAT FRIEND.
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. Thank you for watching. 👍👍💤
@johnnyphillips9735
@johnnyphillips9735 5 ай бұрын
Nice finds mr ZZZ do you know anything about prayer stones i have one i found a long time ago i was going to send a picture but it didn't go through thanks for sharing
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. I believe those came latter on when the Spainish Tried to colonize. A lot happened then that is hidden. Not much is said except for the Aztects. Whole lots more happened too They had armies over here they fought adverse opponets too.....It was not a happy go lucky world for any one. Thanks for watching. 👍👍💤
@missourioutdooradventures
@missourioutdooradventures 5 ай бұрын
Very informative and knowledgeable Nice finds enjoyed watching thanks for sharing and good luck on your next outdoor adventure
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. I am sure you have been seeing the same at your sites Piecing it together is the hard part too. Thanks for watching. 👍👍💤
@BryanKoenig379
@BryanKoenig379 5 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you're saying I'm from Central Missouri and I find same kind of stuff its beautiful stuff. May be sort of primitive looking and not perfect like most people like but those kinds of artifacts are my favorite
@BryanKoenig379
@BryanKoenig379 5 ай бұрын
I do nap arrowheads but only traditional way with stone and antler and I always keep that stuff totally separate from my collection of real arrowhead/blades/artifacts and I agree fooling someone is why there's fake stuff in circulation right now
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. I just got back from the site got a couple big trees down in it from the storm last night. I did manage to pick up 1/2 of a adz nice one too I may have the rest of it. Thanks for watching.👍👍💤
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
@@BryanKoenig379 Exactly. I have actually 3 hooks as soon as you show somebody they freak and tell you they are fake... I found them 1 in Texas Other 2 here in Mo. real deals.
@KushByTheBush
@KushByTheBush 2 ай бұрын
I’m new to this but I found a hammer stone almost identical to the first stone you showed. Same color same notches on the sides. Thank you for sharing this
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@Ephesians617
@Ephesians617 2 ай бұрын
Love that stone! I found a stone that looks similar to yours, just no working on it, you think it's hematite or some other material?
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. From what I can see from the chips that are in it,,,, it is pink and white Noviculite best guess there. Thanks for watching.
@kevinkline6835
@kevinkline6835 5 ай бұрын
Glad to see this one brother Z. Love the Hammer stone. And I agree 100 about "Utilization" and have always disagreed with the "Preform" thing. And yes trying to argue with people who believe the Natives didn't use almost all the flakes being struck is impossible. Nice to listen to ya chat brother Z. I think you know I've been waiting for this one. Many blessings my friend.
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. I am limited to what I can say That video took all friggin day to upload lol. I tried to get in a lot of info in a short amount of time so I was pretty blunt. What I didn't talk about is a real issue even now. All I am saying here is when you are in the woods or wild, country, field, creek best have some kind of a probe like a sword as a back up along with a weapon of choice. You never know who is watching you. Thanks for watching brother. 👍👍💤 I don't know what is up right now but yesterday I seen 4 sherrifs out and about like they are looking for somebody and right now there is a plane divebombing every 3 min.....real weird.
@kevinkline6835
@kevinkline6835 5 ай бұрын
@@zzzzzzzzzzaper The "Vultures" are always watchin brother. I think you know by now that I don't get out much anymore Z but when I had my good days I was always packing. Not because of varmits. 2 legged animals are the biggest problem. Stay safe brother Z
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
@@kevinkline6835 Yes brother I knew but you are one of the gang and I treat you as such.😁 Weirdo.
@kevinkline6835
@kevinkline6835 5 ай бұрын
@@zzzzzzzzzzaper LOL Thanks brother Z
@artifactsofarkansas5549
@artifactsofarkansas5549 Ай бұрын
Some really nice artifacts you found this year so far
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper Ай бұрын
Thanks brother. Not many in that video that's 1/4 of the year. I also have a 1/2 year video posted. Thanks for watching.
@smokeeater8387
@smokeeater8387 4 ай бұрын
You’re doing way better than me brother. And I believe you are correct, I have many big blades that fit perfectly in the hand that some would call a preform but there is no way, it’s a tool, there was no need to haft everything.👍🇺🇸
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 4 ай бұрын
Thank you brother. Exactly they didn't notch cobbs blades or stanfield type. And like I was saying they traveled light had a small bag of goodies to make points and shafts. I will tell you a lil secret where you see yucca plants start looking close there is your string material they grew them at mainly all campsites somewhere close good locator to help you find. Thanks for watching.
@smokeeater8387
@smokeeater8387 4 ай бұрын
@@zzzzzzzzzzaper Right on brother👍🇺🇸
@Pinebedrelics
@Pinebedrelics 4 ай бұрын
I wanna do a 1/4 of a year finds...... Great 💡 great 📹
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 4 ай бұрын
Go for it brother. Thanks for watching.
@williamlake6151
@williamlake6151 Ай бұрын
Experience teaches beyond books and bull. I smack any rock I can attempt. I learn from making and using tools. You my friend understand. Skip the nonsense and snap away
@closertohome-b7m
@closertohome-b7m 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting take on the Archaic preform and whether it's a finished knife or something to become......most likely both. You did your best to explain how the technology was lost in later cultures like Hopewell and Adena. That's like saying the first automobile, made in 1898, was better than my 2020 Ford Explorer. Can you elaborate on that a bit more. Thanks again. James
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 4 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. Like I said in the video all you have to do is look at the product compair both ages hands down newer points were more sloppy made most were just triangular with no notches. here is where it gets interesting and unknown here is the monkey wrench in loss of knowledge. WHERE? The small bird points in the Archaic era what were they made for? The experts say there were NO bows back then, Atlatl,, only 2 have ever been found intact to my knowledge and I have researched this. So actually little is known about the Atlatl. Or anything associated with it. A lot of guesswork there again . guesses. See even the tech on the Atlatl was lost. The reason I brought up small points is the shaft size of the spear it would be too big for the small points. With that tossed in there, Did they have smaller version of the Atlatl for these small points? or are we being fed another lie about there being no bows back then. Bows were wood wood rots then it's gone. only way it is preserved is in a shelter or cave. Or charred by fire.
@closertohome-b7m
@closertohome-b7m 4 ай бұрын
I agree with your ideas and enjoy the perspective. Its a great hobby and very addictive! Thanks
@closertohome-b7m
@closertohome-b7m 4 ай бұрын
@@zzzzzzzzzzaper I hear you brother ...but....maybe the simplicity of the design in later artifacts is due to it's thousands of years of refinement??!! I have many Hopewell and Adena knives and points that are amazingly flaked and balanced and not to mention the beautiful materials they used. I appreciate your view and love all the time periods but it is is a bit like comparing apples to oranges for me.......peace and love.
@chriskeenumhighhopesoutdoors
@chriskeenumhighhopesoutdoors Ай бұрын
That would have been nice, hate that.
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper Ай бұрын
The Dalton classic? yea mee too Thanks for watching brother.
@historylooker7
@historylooker7 5 ай бұрын
Looks like an awesome quarter to me,brother Zzzzzz 😎👊!!!
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother It IS being hard on me lol. I'm thinking diggin today here in a min been out with the legend today no coins I found a penny with the ORX And a dime with the deus 2 lite no find for the nokta☹ And I gave it more time. again lol REAL COMPAIRASON. 3 RD time I have done this same results. I'm going diggin. Thanks for watchin brother. 👍👍💤
@historylooker7
@historylooker7 5 ай бұрын
@@zzzzzzzzzzaper Lol 🤣👍,Better luck diggin 🍀
@very5ick112
@very5ick112 27 күн бұрын
i found arrowheads
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 27 күн бұрын
Thanks. cool. Thank you for watching
@tillersartifactsappalachia1684
@tillersartifactsappalachia1684 5 ай бұрын
Hey brother z you have done well. Thanks for sharing good luck out there
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother Thank you for watching. 👍👍💤
@wmickinley
@wmickinley 4 ай бұрын
How can we know for sure? I have many rocks like this and I don't know whether there is any way to prove it natural or worked. there are too many forces, pressures, events, circumstances, over too many millions of years, that bear upon what a rock looks like - I say this only re: groundstone.
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper 4 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. That rock was definately altered by man It even was heat treated that's why it is red.lol It has pecking al over it And it is polished. That's how you tell plus You have to know what YOU are looking at. Thanks for watching.
@wmickinley
@wmickinley 4 ай бұрын
@@zzzzzzzzzzaper I guess I need to learn how to determine A red rock from a burnt rock and a small hole from a Peck hole
@lesjones5684
@lesjones5684 5 күн бұрын
Gay blade 😅😅😅
@johnschade90
@johnschade90 Ай бұрын
The more modern ones are much nice at least in west 300 years age they were killers
@zzzzzzzzzzaper
@zzzzzzzzzzaper Ай бұрын
Thanks brother. The material is what you see there I agree with that. As far as craftsman ship goes no. Thanks for watching.
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