2024 BMW M4 Convertible LCI Facelift: Why is it SO MUCH Faster?!

[@choyayahyah]

It looks like Mr AMG is becoming more of a Mr M

[@v12-s65]

lol bmw producing 3 good cars at the moment, m3 m4 and m8. That's supposed to make up as an enthusiastic brand?

[@choyayahyah]

@v12-s65 M5 CS was an absolute killer of a car. The new Z4 M40i with 6 speed manual is a great car. For an SUV the X5M/X6M and Alpina XB7 (my wife drives this) are all fantastic SUVs. But yeah, the new heavy M5 is just upsetting. But BMW does have the capacity and has made some amazing class leading cars for enthusiasts

[@v12-s65]

@@choyayahyah and I hope for them to return to their glory. I was heavy on bmw back in 2018. It upsets me where they are heading to. Funny thing is a just sat in a G90 last thursday and was.. not impressed at all. Best thing is when you have personal contact with those cars, that's where one can a personal opinion. Tbf I like the X5M but it's rather behind of other alternatives in the SUV category for my likings. It's just a bit too harsh

[@choyayahyah]

@v12-s65 I never owned a X5m but drove one and thought it was a great sports suv. I had an M8 coupe and a M5 CS both really great cars. I do hope now that Trump will be in office he will help pull back a lot of the bs that governments are pushing for the sake of fraudulent environmental policy and car manufacturers can go back to making cars that people actually want. All this electrification and hybridization is just getting boring and people are not buying them. Lucid is failing, electric cars are not selling well at all and even electric hypercars are not selling

[@gaara4667]

@@v12-s65 Well of course it’s harsh It’s a performance version of their family suv I will never get this complaint🤔

[@CapnT87]

I got a best of 2.79 on my M4 Comp LCI on VBox haha (coupe) - high 2s consistently…and we’re all running 10.9x quarter miles too…this thing is nuts! Especially for the price. At higher speeds you can tell it “only” has 479 lb-ft of torque but up to 200kph its punching wayyyy above its belt. It’s got closer to 600

[@honza2755]

That is quick as fuck

[@R_301.1]

I'm never ceased to be impressed by how comprehensive and well edited your videos are, props to whoever the editor is.

[@blackjack21477]

Man makes the best car reviews tbh. Clear, detailed, subj / obj info without the marvel movie gimmicks

[@thomashrubecky1663]

@@blackjack21477 He's right up there with Sarah-n-Tuned for comprehensive information. She's all hands-on with the engine bay and undercarriage whilst Raz is the King of graphics. It'd never happen but a collab between those two would be… what's the word for a combination of two masterclasses(?)… an ubermasterclassery.

[@Foregrlz]

​@@thomashrubecky1663 savagegeese?

[@DrGammaMindset]

Just love the way you do the transitions from car to car plus showing the mechanics of the car, brilliant 👏

[@Schwabz33]

I don’t understand why everyone’s complaining technology involved. Bmw has the right to keep their cars updated. If you don’t want a car to get updated by a Japanese vehicle that’s not putting down anyone. It’s just stating facts Japanese cars usually are not updated for almost 10 years.

[@v12-s65]

by keeping up to date you mean making the i drive overly complicated to use in favor of cost cutting?

[@phantombru]

Update = unreliable, no update = why fix if everything is still working

[@Jaycupp1]

​@@phantombrujeah. Then why don't you use iPhone 6? Why update? It's working

[@tim1king]

3.1 seconds! Wow... Great review as always and glad you liked it

[@honza2755]

That ain’t no “530” hp more likely 570

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

I agree

[@christophergresco9677]

Might be 600, the coupe is probably 3.0 being lighter.

[@nastystew6942]

I would put it at about 630 hp!

[@zigglershow5383]

It’s 730 hp level!

[@MuppetsSh0w]

it's 596 on dyno. Previous version that is.

[@markb7000]

What a Monster. Best bang for buck out there by a long shot. 🏎️

[@s.c.1972]

Great review. That thing is fast. I have read the LCI couple is sub 3 seconds… but if you want a drop top..c’mon.. 3.1 is fast enough!

[@NickLinacre]

I test drove a pre-LCI G82 and an LCI G82 back to back in July of this year. I noticed how much faster the LCI felt. It felt more akin to the F90 M5 in the way that it delivered the power.

[@supremeetnel7707]

I seen a purple convertible m4 today and its the most aggressive stunning car BMW has ever made. The G series is a masterpiece.

[@v12-s65]

f series is a master piece.

[@supremeetnel7707]

@ negative . the g80s are a do it all car. The f series wasnt a do it all car

[@Sergesedd22]

I agree! ❤

[@JeffPratt-o5f]

the way it goes from pure comfort to complete insanity is remarkable. bmw never disappoints

[@Taylor40667]

Imagine the 0-60 in a none convertible with no added weight ..

[@Flynbourne]

Is that a Raz slap

[@christophergresco9677]

Probably 3.0

[@cephasmakuzva]

​@@christophergresco9677 or 2.9

[@deniznarli2535]

2.79 👍🏻

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

2.8 all day

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

Wow the lci m4 non convertible must be insanity. These new g8x m3 and m4 xdrive have destoyed its competition. They punch way above its weight class. That 0-60 is faster then a amg gt63 thats 200k+

[@inxs777]

The M3 could be faster than a Veyron, I wouldn‘t buy it, the front is HIDEOUS

[@konikseksinan4981]

@@inxs777grow up man

[@LifeChangingMotivation450]

​@@inxs777 i think it looks awesome and love the new bmw designs, and far better than merc and audis where all look the same like it.s the same car literally but half a meter longer. That s the real ugliness

[@v12-s65]

haha don't compare this with a GT. This is still a 3 series. Can push 900hp from the factory, doens't change the status nor the luxury of a GT63. And no Audi and Mercedes do make by far more attractive cars on average than bmws current line up is. There's a reason why they fired Dukec lmao. Alone the RS6 and 7 are master pieces compared to those. Sat in the G90 3 days ago, hot garbage. I owned 3 bmws in the past, but I will never be forced to accept bronze, when I was used to Gold. Performance figures can't make up for everything else. Especially ironical for a country like the UK with horrendours b roads and a speed limit of like 70mph

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

@v12-s65 who is buying a 200k+ mercedes over a porsche though? Also bmw carbon bucket seats> scroll wheel> augmented reality HUD>etc... bmw offers alot and in many interior reviews people these days find more plastic in mercedes then bmw. I wouldn't be able to justify a gt63 knowing a m4 CONVERTABLE will smoke me.

[@hkn777]

The level of this car impressed you is impressive 😂 when you think about how many cars you have driven! So this should be a really good one!

[@DavidCoppock-j5p]

excellent review....you articulate all the key issues pro/con as any enthusiast would want to hear! I debate picking up a used CSL or ordering a new LCI M4 so your video very beneficial!

[@colebruce4490]

So would you say it’s only the 2025 LCI versions of the M4 convertible and not 2021-2024 versions that it shines and doesn’t feel like a compromise?

[@DJNovaBlast3000]

Bruh, this M4 is straight 🔥! The facelift took it from fast to crazy fast. BMW wasn’t playin’ around with this one. Def gonna be hard to catch this beast on the streets! 🚗💨 #RemoveBeforeRace

[@budwise7332]

What a stunning car. Beautiful. Seriously quick as well. 👍

[@markgt894]

😂 fast but definitely not well styled!

[@dlj1285]

@@markgt894Exactly. These are some of the most horrendous designs. Performance chops are undeniable, but design…yuck

[@v12-s65]

As someone who's often on the Autobahn I do wonder how the hell people use the power in the UK? Roads narrow with a lot of imperfections, speed limit highway 70mph.. Performance is an importance for a car like an M4. But just because it does outstanding in that discipline, that doesn't even make it a consideration for an Aston Martin alternative. The more cars you drive on long distances, specifically at night, the more you start to appreciate everything else instead of sheer acceleration from a dig. Cool car. The bmw fan community, as always, ruins it. From a perspective of a former BMW owner, of the first two 3 series models.

[@Neil3D]

I had the F83 M4 Comp Convertible for 4 years from new, the one with the hard top. Personally, and it is all down to preference, but in my opinion the hard top is superior in every regard. Screw the weight of it, who cares, less than 1% of the people buying these are using it for track days and if they do... who do they think they are to whinge about some extra weight? You're not competing for a F1 seat, nobody cares, just tool your car around and pray you don't bin it. But soft tops don't age well, British weather causes them to unavoidably mould up around the seams which no amount of Halfords super snake oil is gonna stop... they crease and wrinkle over time making them ugly, so I'd take a hard top all day long. The only real life issue with a hard top is they can be prone to rattling depending if your unlucky or not. But again, imo, the M4 has become unreasonably priced. I've got a brand new G87 M2 coming this week and that's more expensive than a brand new M4 was in 2017/2018, the M4 is an amazing car but it isn't a £90k+ car, that's absolute madness. Edit - WTF that rear light cluster is a £2800 optional extra as part of the technology pack, jesus christ man the spec of the car in this video is well over £100,000. That is just insanity, for what is essentially a 4 series.

[@JohnGuidetti751]

Rear laser lights were initially standard on the facelift M4 now optional.

[@j.r.986]

I know it’d be pushing legality a bit, but I’d love to see you get 1/4 mile times with the RaceBox along with the 0-60 for comparisons. Great review, as always, with the real world insight and comparisons to its competition

[@SupermanOG]

M440i has the laser rear lights too! Not just M3/4

[@minigiant8998]

M3 does not have laser rear lights if we're correcting here.

[@SanMarinoM3cs]

2025 i4 too..

[@aneebaba06]

Yeah all 4 series ICE and i4 as mentioned.

[@MistaBe]

That take off 0-60 was 🔥 great review as always 💥 💚

[@deniznarli2535]

Now we need to see a proper M3/M4 LCI review!!!

[@justanotherguy972]

Raz, the pre LCI M3 xdrive already did a 2.9s to 60mph. You can see the record on Car&Driver. I bet the LCI is even faster with the extra power

[@dervthebeast5130]

Did 2.8 actually

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

0-60 usally doesnt change much with only 20+ added HP. But past that point is where u will really feel the difference.

[@paidquartz]

Can't wait to pick up my M4 Competition Cabriolet LCI

[@johnnyboy1586]

I do like a soft top but would always worry about getting it slashed when parked up somewhere

[@johnbennett2744]

Puts me off as well that

[@Mbeat157]

Same and also the mould

[@cephasmakuzva]

Raz it was dynoed at 597hp exactly. Not the 530hp claimed. Bmw are unserstating the hp and performance figures. 3.7s to 60mph and you got 3.1s. Its insane. Absolutely bonkers.

[@gaara4667]

To the wheel or crank?

[@ChrisODCT]

My 2022 G83 has 27k of our miles and still astounds. Will keep the blacked out rear M badge but will be hunting the remap that gives these figures!

[@Thereal1-Me]

The back headrest on the convertible m4 have remained looking like something out of a French car like they not allowed to dare improve them, would be a huge improvement if the suited the front seats more

[@meady200]

Didn't it used to be regular practice for media fleet cars (not just BMW) to get a tune thrown on them to make sure they made good press?

[@scottmcintyre551]

Great review, I enjoyed it. How were the carbon bucket seats as a daily? Cheers Scott.

[@TheElmoProject75]

Any comments about the CCBs? I remember Ricky from LLF moaning about them squeaking constantly

[@sanghoonlee5171]

3.1 seconds... Jesus Christ that's a Lamborghini number

[@ashypravs4866]

It's a Masterpiece !!!

[@matthewnicholas6365]

I get the hump when people use weight and flexibility to dismiss convertibles but the same people lust after estates. People, estates are heavier and more flexible too.

[@S.1-1-1-1-1]

Not as flexible.

[@matthewnicholas6365]

@S.1-1-1-1-1 more flexible than a coupe or saloon.

[@robertdelvecchio7438]

Enjoyed the review - as always great presentation, fun graphical add ons always make me smile -- can you say/detail what the LCI versus M4 Competition differences are (USA market)

[@johnmuzic3475]

its 530 hp on crappy 91 octane California gas on a very hot humid heat soaked day with an unbroken in engine lol...on a nice cool dry day in the northern states, with the much less restrictive U.S. exhaust system in place and 93 octane better gas, probably 600hp....at sea level in Florida with much better quality 102 octane gas, probably 650....with ethanol or VP 100 race fuel and a propler ECU reflash to take into account the much better gas...probably 700hp...with full bolt ons these cars are making over 950hp here in the USA...with bigger turbo's, hotter cams, straight piped exhaust, methane injection and an trunk mounted ice box and better heat exchanger to keep it all ice cold...they are making 1300hp...no joke...in other words, for 175,000 plus $35,000 in mods, a customer can get a 2025 M4 CS coupe with enough accleration to easily keep up on the highway with a $1.2 million dollar Ferrari SF90XX...just crazy times...oh yeah and the M4 has a small back seat to put two small children or a good amount of your stuff or groceries back there, a much much better trunk space than a Ferrari which essentially has none lol...But the Ferrari will obviously get you way way more beautiful curvy sexy women in your life to sleep with you, way more than you were already getting, just because the women love a man who drives a new Ferrari or Lambo or Rolls Royce or Bentley or Aston...it exudes success, power, money, elegance, class, sophistication, elite status and huge life accomplishments...women notice all that immediately...

[@212something]

Man I wish it had speedster design elements with the top down.

[@ryancarter7138]

You can retro fit the new steering wheel to your pre LCI M2 and M3. AutoID are selling them 👌🏼

[@ballfire99]

We need a comparison vs your spyder rs

[@anthonydavies5255]

Really good reviews.

[@welcome2me]

this is a good review...great job.

[@clintstuckey]

Cut off one of the two resonators in the exhaust and it makes a world of difference on the sound. $150 at a muffler shop…. Way more cracks and pops and burbles, and about 20% louder.

[@jimlindsay7733]

In the new Car and Driver, Steve Dinan says the S58 makes 591hp and 575 ft lbs at the crank. Every review comments on how much BMW underrated the output. The car is extremely fast. I have had it 2 years now and haven't even tried the launch control. It doesn't seem necessary.

[@willwilson1835]

Very good review well done love bmw 😍

[@sechabatsotetsi8706]

Love how you dressed to match the car👌👌👌🔥🔥🔥🔥💯

[@leobats14]

Fantastic video sir

[@nickng5857]

makes iq7 looks like an antique

[@themalaysian1035]

what happen if you flip the thing when it's open top?

[@Neil3D]

Nothing makes you feel better about paying over £1k per month for a £90k+ car than it being already out of date and considered "the old one" after barely a year of owning it. BMW need to cool it with the number of LCI releases imo.

[@timonxDlol]

Mate it has been like this for decades

[@albi283]

How is this a surprise. BMW model lifecycles are around 7 years and product refreshes aka facelifts occur half way through the lifecycle, sometimes earlier.

[@gw7624]

In other words, you didn't do your research. BMW platform and LCI cadence is fairly predictable.

[@lechprotean]

I own 2019 m340i which is two refreshes behind but still the same engine as the reviewed m440i. I'm not complaining as there's only slight tweaks here and I can make comparable power with a few simple mods - for example a downpipe and a chip tune.

[@Neil3D]

@@gw7624 I wrote out a huge comment but it's a KZbin comment, nobody cares or would read it. So I'll shorten it. In summary, I didn't say LCI was a new thing though did I? What I am saying is that generally, people buy a car from new because they want the latest & greatest, and they pay a premium to have that. I expect that feeling to last longer than 1 year in some cases. LCI induced FOMO is getting worse, the G series received a completely overhauled dash and UI in 2022 (the widescreen). If you bought a £90k+ M4 in 2021 thinking you were the dogs nuts, 1 year in you've got the dated dashboard. Some don't care, many do. The G87 M2 has had a LCI after only 1 year. It doesn't matter how minor the changes are either, if you bought a brand new G series M2 when it launched and barely months later you now own the "old one", you're gonna be p*ssed. Go look at the F8X ZCP era, from 2016-2020, the LCI for that was pretty much to make the adaptive lights standard, and not a whole lot else. It certainly didn't get an entire new dashboard mid-cycle, new paints, new wheels, more power etc So no, I would strongly disagree that the nature of the G series LCI has been predictable.

[@stuartleonard1060]

The acceleration looked rapid. 15:40.

[@sherazshahid1]

Shoes how good the C8 is.

[@S.1-1-1-1-1]

No one wants to be seen in an american car/

[@rapboy6510]

Please review the new m3 compentition Lci xDrive 😍🙏

[@PaR2020]

If its 2 tonnes and it does 0-60 in 3.1 seconds then it has much more power than 530hp. I have m550 which is 2 tonnes and has 530hp. It doesn’t do 0-60 in 3.1 seconds

[@Bad8oy]

Joe Achilles tested pre lci m3 x drive at 2.9, as have many others. I don’t think it is going to be much quicker if at all tbh.

[@deathmark1940]

Road conditions

[@Usman-zp6ig]

Correct. That's what I was thinking. The pre lci is consistently sub 3.2sec to 60mph. A simple stage 1 on a pre lci would then bring it in line with the lci figures

[@Bad8oy]

@@Usman-zp6ig stage 1 would be much faster then an LCI. The LCI figures are pretty much the same as pre lci 😂

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

Dude 0-60 means nothing.. same thing with the new m5. Its slower 0-60 by .3 sec but after 60 is where it blows everything away. 60-130 is the real test of HP.

[@Bad8oy]

@@PEACEOUTXX1 yeah and on the road the 100-200 time isn’t gonna even be enough to notice, foot down 2 tenths earlier and same. Stage 1 map with Csl software updates will blow an lci out the water and cost £3k 😂 with a 100-200 2 seconds faster

[@craigkore7338]

Almost as quick as Tesla Model 3 Performance. Impressive...

[@Mbeat157]

Bucket seats? Worth it? Comfortable

[@sowolelekandaniel9121]

this is so amazing

[@theboiizulu414]

do the m4 cs next !!!!!!!!!!

[@jeebus2121]

I test drove an M4 coupe two weeks ago, and it was just needlessly fast. Whatever number they advertise for power is probably 10% below reality.

[@jayb1108]

Really nice car

[@Dan-uy1dh]

Those in your face vents we see in most cars, especially in Mercs, will soon be gone.

[@joshuaiyama5503]

Bmw is love❤

[@tonywong303]

Where’s your M5 touring review 😢

[@realrockrolla]

Yeah but this lights honestly are the worst idea ever.The M4 before the facelift look far more premium and high tech with the laser lights

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

I like both. I felt like it was needed to really show its a new 2025 one. I think with a yellow or red drl module they will look alot more mean

[@navsofour2892]

According to serious written reviews it is not faster than non LCI of the same trim so this prob has added weight. And does not have the silly screen ipad dashboard and the downgraded plastic vents.

[@theoschofield1495]

Best interior at min

[@dhfozzie]

Arriving this week is the fastest ever production BMW can you guess the model heres a clue it starts with M 😊

[@fontanaoseguerahome9527]

Used Porsche 911 (992.1) or new BMW M4 Convertible. What would you buy?

[@sambyf2445]

911 way better handling in every situation

[@obieWanmotivation]

It boils down to preference. I would take the 992.1 even if the M4 is faster. I’m a BMW car owner

[@windoge1031]

All new 4 Series get the new lights

[@jamalkherry5296]

Probably 530 to the wheels rather than crank

[@dhfozzie]

This car puts out 550 plus bhp they basically put the csl map in and did not tell us Why you would buy a CS now I will never know 😊

[@Hteja96]

Laser taillights are updated on all 4 series coupes. Not an m4 specific part

[@JohnGuidetti751]

It’s an optional extra not standard.

[@Commonsense4Life]

I keep telling Y’all, BMW is tweaking their M cars and suvs little by little to chase and rival Porsche. Not Mercedes, Audi and whoever else. 😳

[@adambarnett4509]

This car has 575-600.

[@TuvingtonD]

After owning several M3/M4s, I'd pick a 911 variant every time.

[@comparecards5688]

They don’t have the same cabin space though

[@markgt894]

@@comparecards5688get a fast estate then

[@christophergresco9677]

The only problem these days are the prices. A base model is almost double.

[@comparecards5688]

@@markgt894 saloons is my first choice estates are the second choice

[@comparecards5688]

@@christophergresco9677 plastic is more expensive compare to gold 😂

[@Levente20]

so the coupe must be even faster cause its lighter. the S58 engine is the bully of all other cars. theres no escape

[@iLLGT2]

The engine and platform is a monster indeed, however it’s just not a satisfying engine thru the revs if you’re use to older M’s pre turbo gt3 etc…. I love mine for what it is however a lot of the time it leaves a lot to be desired as well

[@fatihgocturk8133]

if you cannot believe pls go and drive Tesla performance, its funny that these people still talks about the speed of combustion engine when they do test drive.. the focus should be luxury interior not the 0-100

[@Zhequirinal]

I feel abused by BMW, my M3 Touring being so behind in terms of performance at least. Unacceptable

[@Homer-pc6oj]

2025 not 2024

[@timmietz]

In Europe they go by production dates

[@Homer-pc6oj]

@ oh word?

[@Homer-pc6oj]

@@timmietzis this an xdrive?

[@TravelTeleport]

Middle aged man wearing a baseball cap in a convertible…

[@I17-k4g]

And???

[@andrewstevenson6540]

And baseball jacket 😂

[@duffydon1741]

@traveltelepot, you sound bored!

[@wooqiaoqi]

Sounds like a smart, successful man who lives a happy life

[@JohnGuidetti751]

Sounds like you ain’t happy with your life.

[@tracewaybos]

Miss Piggy in a Kermit suit...

[@spewp]

Sorry you've apparently run out of good cars to drive & feature.

[@robocoppah]

Exterior: ugly Paint: wannabe supercar Interior: tacky junk, with U20 gamer screens Performance: exceptional

[@iposteverythung3720]

Not only is it much faster, but it is also much uglier as well!

[@SuperWolffie]

this still looks ugly in comparison with the 3 serie cabrio from around 1997/2000. The behind is too big.

[@Bazlightyear007]

Unfortunately its still a BMW

[@drstevej2527]

Fast sports cars that are turned into convertibles are an oxymoron.

[@JohnGuidetti751]

How when the avg person is driving to the shops or work lol. Cmon now

[@drstevej2527]

@ That’s an argument against owning any sports car not one against my argument.

[@sunnyvasquez3678]

Change that grille already it’s garbage.

[@inxs777]

One big problem with the car: The front is so damn ugly

[@deathmark1940]

Not at all with front splitter and cs grill

[@mohammedtasin2792]

Race box is not 100% accurate

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Hmmm. I've got 7+ years worth of reviews saying that it's pretty damn accurate, testing identical figures to the in-car systems too.