2024 Taycan Market Crash: Is Now the Best Time to Buy?

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

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[@ballerblocks]

Just imagine the depreciation these German cars will have when cheaper high end Chinese electric cars come into the market. And yes they are on par, quality and tech wise, not so much with design.

[@darkness8849]

you have to finish your fence bro, its on construction since years now :D

[@Crunch_dGH]

Re: Obsolescence Resistance. Skin deep beauty hasn’t cut it in the (Tesla-only) world of OTAUs enabled via vertically integrated electronic components that CAN’T be done when most of them are provided by subcontractors that struggle to communicate verbally, let alone electronically, with their counterparts. Thus, only Tesla & (partially, tofu dreg) BYD are able to continually refresh their products. Plus, (CCS “innovator”) VW-related cars are sadly the most retrograde, in that regard.

[@MaestroWenarto]

I had two Taycans and lost so much money....the drive is a dream - so my advice is to buy a use Taycan

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

You bought them brand-new? You are a brave man and I salut you!

[@YumboYack2521]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722probably for a GT allocation, if not then brave isn’t the word I’d use

[@cassokon]

Thank you. Cars are depreciating assets so if you buy a new Taycan congrats; but also if you were/are able to get one cheap, congrats.

[@andrewstorm8240]

Only lose if you sell

[@bst379]

@@andrewstorm8240 Company car, then the depreciation is a tax write-off

[@Luminated67]

Personally I feel sorry for those early Taycan buyers, they were stepping into the unknown and they paid the price for it. Facts that many ignored, big saloon cars generally don’t hold their value, even ICE versions so a new technology EV one was not necessarily the right model to introduce. We have one in the family but we did it PCP back when Porsche thought they had the pricing right so are stepping out of it not costing us a packet. Only my opinion but because this technology is ever improving I think it’s mad to buy outright at the moment, better to either lease or PCP, at least with both forms you know the end cost for the period of ownership and if you don’t like it walk away.

[@ks-vq5er]

They don’t care most are leasing

[@Luminated67]

@@ks-vq5er Porsche don’t but other brands are giving great deals, I got an i5M60 for less £19K over 2 years. A £102K motor that costs you that little is the way to go.

[@tokyowarfare6729]

Early buyers of a Taycan are rich enough not to give a shit.

[@runbuh]

Before you buy a gen 1 Taycan, read the long thread on their Taycan forum titled "Underbody Protection Panel damaged. Batteries and coolant lines need inspection. $72.5K replacement & labor cost.". A 3.33mm dent in the panel requires a complete battery replacement.

[@TimRobson]

But shouldn't that be covered by insurance?

[@runbuh]

@@TimRobson Go read up the thread. I believe insurance did end up covering it, but it took a huge amount of work on the owner's part to get the dealer and insurance to line up on the coverage (dealer wanted $72k, insurance was only going to pay $42k, IIRC). Additionally, the dealer kept his car off the road the entire time he was working out the financials, which took several weeks. The car was deemed too dangerous to drive (fire risk). He got a loaner for some of that time.

[@Thisismyhandle218]

I got a used 2 year old Taycan 4S with a huge spec and 13k miles for less than £55k on a PCP with the Porsche 2 year warranty with a discount on extension to 3 years. I feel for the previous owner as they took a massive hit no doubt. To say that I'm pretty chuffed is an understatement, I absolutely love it and to Raj's point in the video every day I drive it it puts a smile on my face.

[@Watcheyes]

Which model year would you recommend?

[@umairejaz6665]

I am debating between this and the Model S. I prefer the looks of the Taycan, but the Tesla Model S doesn't look that bad. However, Tesla's technology is miles ahead.

[@Itsallagame1984]

@@umairejaz6665 get the tesla much better proposition.

[@aoaaron6166]

where did u get it from? im in the market for one.

[@JoeDreamgate]

Everyone here drank the kool-aid

[@YousufAhmad0]

The biggest mistake EV manufacturers made was to not modularize the battery pack so that owners could simply buy and swap in newer higher capacity battery packs into older models.

[@971sina]

Mistake or just good marketing 😉

[@verynormalman]

Phones used to have batteries that could be easily removed.

[@guywilkinson]

It's really difficult to engineer whilst trying to balance range and safety requirements.

[@petroskraitsis]

Nio is doing it.

[@sardororipov1302]

taycan actually has 33 modules that you can swap each and cost $800 each

[@Natak222]

Please man, more of these investigative type of videos where you go deeper than your standard but vey polished car reviews. This is all you're missing

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Appreciate the comment! We're planning on some more 😎

[@orlandopenahernandez7631]

About a year and a half ago I was in the position to buy a new 'daily', i really like sedans for that, so I went to my local BMW, Mercedes and Porsche. They had available 330i plug in hybrid, C43 and base Taycan sedan with some preconfigure goods. Where I'm from they don't import the high end versions b/c they are a pretty penny, you can order them. I went for the Taycan knowing that in my country there is ZERO public charging infrastructure, but is was for daily use basically for my metropolitan area which includes 6 cities with an average temperature of 33 celcius during the day. I'm very happy with my purchase I've put around 15,000 km in that time.I charge it at my house every 2 or 3 days, perfect for my needs. I always keep an ICE SUV for my long trips. That has been my experience overall.

[@andrewhurstcars]

Of course you will still see a drop after you spend £70k on a second-hand GTS, if you buy one at that price as you suggest. It will drop to £40k in no time, then after 8 years the battery warranty runs out. All large four-door saloons have always lost a lot of money, that's nothing new. Look at the price of a four-year-old Panamera for comparison, the cheapest is £45k, only £5k more than a similar aged Taycan. The new Taycan is a huge step-up with about a 100 mile increase in range.

[@ThesGt]

thanks for this crash, i just got a 2021 Taycan 4S with less than 20k miles for 50% of the price new, its a great car and its a blessing for ppl wanting to get a great EV car for a discounted price, got the car 2 days ago and this is by far my best car i have ever driven and i love it

[@Boutit031]

When your turn comes to sell?

[@ThesGt]

@@Boutit031 who cares, every car will lose value, EVs will just lose more that's s given, the next guy will also get a good deal on my car and I will lose money on depreciation but the main depreciation already happen with the first owner, you are overthinking it, this is not s stock or an asset to make money, cars are really just toys you waste money and enjoy them for a period of time

[@LongyUK01]

I bought a GTS new from dealer at 40% off list…. Wouldn’t run a Taycan out of warranty… for a 2021 I’d say that’s still a risk.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@Boutit031its already 50% off when he bought it.

[@rogerfroud300]

You'll probably have to keep it, because depreciation is still going to make you take a huge hit if you sell it.

[@TheHispasians]

I just acquired a 2024 Sport Turismo GTS for 30% off MSRP. Coming from a Model S, I bought eyes wide open that EVs are not investments. Just enjoy the drive!

[@jasondoe5741]

How does it compare with the actual tech? Like the Tesla always has updates coming, scheduled charging, heating, cooling, even from the app, synch to calendar for navigation, auto pilot, etc. the stuff that makes a daily driver a great daily driver.

[@justinsymonds8470]

I agree with everything you said.a lot of non ev owners worry about range but if you can charge at home or have access to any public fast charger it really isn’t an issue if your ev can do around 250 in the summer and 200 in the winter. I started my electric journey with a i3 with 120 mile range which dropped to as low as 75 in the winter. Great for living in the city I had no issues but I moved to a rural location and it could no longer do. I got a Mercedes eqc with 250 mile range and I’ve never had to worry ever again! My next car will be a taycan, most likely sport turismo. EVs for me make THE BEST daily drivers, I get depreciation anxiety though so for me that’s the only kicker with EVs. My eqc is doing OK so far as I picked it up used!

[@Logangil515]

You provided so much quality information in this video. This is the first video I have ever seen of yours and it was so phenomenal to watch

[@MrDead1975]

I'm so glad I didn't buy a taycan turbo 1 1/2 yrs ago, I was so close and dodged a depreciation bullet

[@ystebadvonschlegel3295]

Me too - I had spec’d around $170K taycan build and then came to my senses. Really wanted it and wife said buy it - end up with a Z4 BMW convertible instead and it’s basically free vs what I would have taken a hit on from the Taycan.

[@vxnova1]

Are you considering it now for half price?

[@808lublabs4]

I bought a brand new GTS sport turismo a year ago and I absolutely love it. I have no intentions of selling it as it is my daily so all the hype around resale doesn't bother me. Now if you're one to flip cars to try and make the cost make sense then look the other way.

[@peterinsani4203]

Fully agree, i custom ordered a brand new ‘22 Taycan CT 4S as my daily driver. If you haven’t driven one, you are missing out. I also own a 911 Cab, and my wife has a Macan S. The Taycan CT is remarkable and just as fun to drive as the 911, and more comfortable.

[@beatles4sale2007]

Big luxury ICE cars (S class / A8 / 7 series) always depreciate steeply, so the Taycan has followed this. However historically Porsche cars have always had a low curve, take a 10 year old Cayman, they are still £30K which is half a new base 781 version for example. Does a 3 year old Taycan, that is 20% in range “less” than a brand new one offer great value….for sure if you can spend £50K and not worry about losing money. However how low will they go, if Porsche can’t shift the previous gen new ones in stock and the 1.1 new ones have “incentives” or just end up in fleet? Great pod as ever…

[@voksic81]

I got the CPO CT 4S and I go on 800km trips just to be in that car. It's amazing with all its imperfections and quirks, just amazing. Range is irrelevant cause it charges super fast; up to 20min stops at Ionity.

[@peterhammer6915]

exactly!! Best road trip car I have ever had. Have driven 5 times now from Stockholm to Bavaria and even to Italy. 95% using Ionity.

[@wallymaingear]

Bought a used GTS Sports Turismo CPO for 50% off and it's one of the best vehicles I've ever owned. Range is also OK, as i noticed Porsche is a bit more conservative with estimates than my previous Tesla.

[@jeffs6090]

I love his analogy to smart phones. It is the absolute truth that EVs are just smart phones on wheels. They are fully disposable after 2-5 years. I definitely personally still like EVs and they are here to stay, but people will eventually trade them out like they do their phones now. 2-3 year leases will be the only thing happening soon.

[@exe889]

Picked up an official Porsche used taycan turbo S yesterday. The initial owner lost around 90k over 4 years. It's even PPFd all over. So, they saved a tax bill, I got a car I couldn't otherwise afford.

[@joeblack1642]

All cars are depreciated nobody has money for these high price. It’s not just EV’s even ice. Vehicles are depreciating rapidly cars are too expensive.!!

[@982spyder5]

Nah, I can still get sticker price for my 4 year old Porsche Spyder.

[@LivingLifeSlower]

Wonder what destroyed GBP 🤔

[@modernschoolatlas]

Great report, much of it also applies to my car, I bought a BMW i4-40 a year and a half ago and thought HP finance would give me a better result than PCP. Wrong, and I'm feeling the pain with 50% depreciation. Love the car (including the Hans Zimmer sound effects) and it's plenty fast enough for me, like you I don't need sport mode, and the range is 250 in winter and 300 in summer which does me for a week. I normally change my car every two years but I think I'll hang onto this one because (a) I think it's great and (b) I don't want another horrible depreciation hit. Anyone who buys a similar used i4 now is getting a bargain, same as the Taycan.

[@fgrgtr]

Agreed with you, as a daily driver car, this is the perfect car. personally i won’t be able to get back from my CT TS, that i bought half the retail price, and shouldn’t depreciate a lot more quickly. The range is a mindset, finally better experience in long range trips with my wife, so happy to have 20min stop time to time. Compared to my previous Macan GTS, no comparison, faster, more comfortable, more space.. of course move to the new one : no way !!

[@onski_ski]

I totally agree with your mind-set comment, but my mind is damn stubborn sometimes. Rationally, those slightly longer stops on car trips are nice anyway. But with road trips, especially when they involve the Autobahn, also comes the desire to have a little race. Especially if you're in a Porsche.... All I have to do now is, very rationally, convince my wife that she can just relax while we blast along the road at 200km/h to our destination.

[@Aggie4life77]

I will say that I’m in the market in the US for a used Taycan GTS which is why this video popped up on my algorithm. The values have dropped over here, but no where near what is going on over there in the UK. In the US, you will be hard pressed as of Aug 30th to find a 2022 GTS under 90k and I’m being conservative. Most are still going for close to 100k or more. That’s the 2022 version. The 2023’s and 24’s are even higher. This video said in the Uk, you can get them in the 70k range? The rear wheel drives and some 4S models are going for that depending on how they are optioned.

[@harrygreen9548]

It’s pounds vs USD so probably in the same ballpark

[@Aggie4life77]

@@harrygreen9548 ah that makes sense. 70k pounds is like 91k USA so that’s about right. I stand corrected!

[@raiiiar]

You can afford a taycan but you don't understand how different currencies work?😂 I'm sorry maybe you were hungover or something.😊

[@Aggie4life77]

@@raiiiar Man shut up! I just didn’t realize that the exchange rate was that far off. I was thinking it was closer. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@livinagoodlife]

The base issue is ignorance towards battery tech + not enough infrastructure for battery maintenance/repairs. People are too scared to get a secondhand EV because they think they are already half dead .. which if you watched Rory of Top Gear's recent videos, that just isnt the case. If EV manufacturers want their brands to signify longevity then they need to invest infrastructure to compete with what exists today for ICE vehicles.

[@MrLtybul]

ev was and is pushed by leftist politicians. a product subsided right from the beginning. ice versions do not depreciate so fast, heck top versions of Porsche rooster are increasing in value. it's simple as that.

[@mikewallace1723]

For me it is buying today and out of date tomorrow. Buying a phone or tv, it isn’t that important. But the technology is changing so fast. I am old enough to remember the video player era, and the best system, Betamax, was beaten by VHS! Solid state is coming. The key drivers are range and charging time. These factors are improving all the time. Not there yet for me. Cost of these cars means it’s a worry to buy if the technology is updated so quickly and impacts the value overnight. Early days, and technology is changing fast. I get it. But this isn’t a phone purchase!

[@dynamicsoulslayer]

Incorrect. Current BEV tech has hit its plateau at the top of its S curve. Like laptops they will continue the decline of depreciation until finally becoming obsolete in 4 years.

[@JayDee-b5u]

You make infrastructure sound so easy. 😂. 'They should just do it!' 🙄

[@Arken2249]

Great presentation. I wish prices were as cheap here in America. My only reasons for not buying EV is poor charging infrastructure and low range. They need to hit at least 375 miles. Subscribed!

[@j.r.986]

NGL, I’m bummed to hear that you got rid of your Taycans. I thought your white CT was the best looking Taycan I’ve ever seen, exactly how I’d spec one

[@Swayzeo]

The E-Tron GT devalued even more

[@pauln0371]

Which makes it even better value 👍👍👍

[@wvu2123]

They aren't popular. I've been living in Southern California for two years now and I've only seen one, I see multiple taycans every week.

[@ph8077]

Funny, I've just bought another house & it has a "3 phase fast charger" apparently, whatever that means - more research needed I guess. I currently own a 2023 RS5 Vorsprung coupe & I'm thinking of replacing it in the next few months. By pure coincidence today on Autotrader I noticed the brilliant value of 1-year-old Taycans with

[@mikewallace1723]

Check insurance cost. Another area where they fleeced you.

[@ChristianFrench1]

I had a 4S Cross Turismo on order for 13 months and right before build commit, Porsche got greedy and upped the RRP by £13k so I cancelled it. I definitely dodged a financial landmine.

[@monchoglu]

You did indeed!

[@dancam3269]

Just bought a 23 plate Taycan cross turismo first owner paid over £120k and I got it for half that...£30k in options truffle club leather,massage,RWS,HUD+++ I know they have more to fall but for now its a keeper and I will just enjoy a great car which I would never have been able to buy new.

[@chloemuffin1]

Don't forget to mention range improvement on the new Taycan, is also gained through a larger battery, 83.6 kWh of usable capacity with increase capacity to 97.0 kWh not just newer components and software

[@spacemarine8289]

As a car enthusiast I can't justify buying a car I can't hold onto for 20 years and a car if I sell I lose 60% in under two years. I understand they handle well but I would just rather rent and then have the ability to walk away. I think the only future for these vehicles is some kind of lease program.

[@peter_w01]

Hey, great review! One thing about the ACC and the upgrade to InnoDrive. My Porsche salesperson told me yesterday that since the beginning of September 24 it is not possible anymore to upgrade to InnoDrive. If you have already upgraded, it will be active until 2027 and then be disabled. I find this very unfortunate - I am in the market for a used Taycan and this reduces the selection drastically.

[@lrnasigo1]

23’ GTS $113K 2K miles and 22’ GTS $92K with 15K miles in Texas

[@donwilber1628]

Good video. Looking at US prices, used Taycans are still $110-125k from Porsche, and mid $50s for a 2020, and up to $170k for newer models on the on other sites. Guess you should buy in the UK.

[@twoweeledsoto6072]

Great review and info. Exactly what I needed to see and hear.

[@presley1234567]

Anyone who says you should lease is crazy. You still get costed in the interest and exit on the deal etc, not cheaper in real world terms. Good video bro but I’ll stick to my ICE and current 8Y RS3 Vorsprung 👊

[@Thisonegoestoeleven666]

Tidy auto.

[@monchoglu]

Funny, I'm actually considering a RS3 Y8 Sedan and Taycan CT GTS, among couple others. I really like the RS3 Y8 as a daily car

[@TimeisReel]

In the US you can get used Taycans for under 50k and used Tesla Plaids under 60k. They were over 100k new. The Cybertruck is next...

[@BiiYAAAA]

The market has totally changed I thought i could keep a couple of oldies for a sale in the futrue for profit.

[@jonathancollard3710]

By far the best graphics on any YT channel in U.K. or USA. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Good informative vid

[@normanwatson9056]

This says it all and why I've never bought an EV, buyers drive the demand

[@richardmesser1091]

Good to know

[@damindra]

Still think Hybrid and alternative fuels will be better than any full EV cars, I am happy in my hybrid porsche, quick enough, great sound and still able to toodle to the shops in silent(though silent in car parks I find wrong and should make sound)

[@apb3251]

So the benefit of having an old Taycan is using Google Maps to plan your route? 😂 I noticed as most motoring journalists also fail to mention (as they get it as part of their job) is insurance. This car is about x4 the price of its ICE equivalent to insure.

[@CambridgeAutogleam]

The old Taycan looks loads better than the facelift as well. I’ve got a customer who is up to around 90k miles on his Taycan turbo S. I’ve told him I’ll buy it off him for £20k next year 😇

[@AGDunc]

I don’t understand the drive mode comments. They feel very different to me. I use Sport Plus for everything bar motorway cruising. The throttle response is completely different

[@MrDjconquest]

These prices in the UK are mad….USA market still holding around 52-59K for a used base model Taycan, i cannot wait for the full depreciation to hit the US market so i can buy a 4s with performance battery for 50K USD…..So glad i cancel my CT 4 before receiving @ 116K USD back in 2022!!!!

[@Praise_God369]

it is mad from beginning to pay 150k for an EV in the first place 😅 And this design is how old 5-6year old ? its stupid. and boring. stupid and boring.

[@georgewalker7061]

Great stuff, small point is that when you get to Knockhill it will be another 258 miles & maybe 5 hours just to the top of the Scottish Mainland.

[@johnlabernik4599]

The massively increased fast charging performance of the refresh is the reason the old ones depreciated so much

[@brandon7136]

Not the reason at all. Most Taycan owners like myself barely use level 3 charges. 99% of charging is at home. First gen Taycan charging is still one of the fastest so it's a none issue.

[@Chaness100]

This dude got me to buy a CT 4s. Great videos.

[@filoniz]

Wow i am amaze at the difference in size of old Porsches vs new.

[@Ndumei21]

The honesty towards the Porsche EV segment and lack of it towards the new BMW design language and recent M cars is noticable too Raz, respectfully

[@nismo379]

I'm not even an ev guy but will probably buy one of these just to get into my first Porsche of my own! I'm glad they dropped in price. I hope they make a bounce back somehow after I but one lol

[@mikegregory8353]

One of the few videos that makes a Porsche EV appealing. Taycan is too big BUT it’s making me think, from a driving experience, the upcoming Boxster & Cayman might be quite interesting.

[@12f8ewfo]

This is why you always lease EVs

[@PatRick-rm6dh]

😂 🎉😅

[@zali9657]

Exactly 💯

[@LCOF]

It will be interesting if there are really good lease deals for the new Taycan.

[@andrewhurstcars]

The depreciation is still built into the cost of the lease, plus interest on top. There is no free lunch.

[@12f8ewfo]

@@andrewhurstcarsyes that is how a lease works.

[@keithalexander6881]

Truth with the Taycan, it’s more complicated than just comparing the economic side to an iPhone… many where bought by business people on cheap tax incentives here in the UK, it’s a victim of this rule and high initial sales, 1-2 year old leased cars then flooding the market and with the second owner only being a private buyer, far more cars than buyers exist. Many business owners selling these cars are probably not losing heavily if the loss is a tax write off? And if on a PCP/lease type deal a private owner is limited in exposure too, it’s VW finance that have had to take a massive hit on the difference between the promised buy back price and its true follow on resale value.

[@brownhairydog6472]

Comparing EVS to phones is exactly the correct analogy. Mod cars and EVS even more so have become generic and pretty much offer the same features regardless of brand. A lot of this has to do with regulation but many consumers just want something reliable with heaps of features and don't really care about a logo on the front. Unfortunately. Jeff, save for very few examples. It's going to be harder and harder for EVS to stand out and that hits the luxury brands the most.

[@mayorshake7236]

This is why I am seriously concerned for Jaguar. They are completely jumping the gun….

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Is Jaguar still selling cars? As far as I know zero in America right now?

[@mayorshake7236]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 They are still selling F-Pace but that’s it. I think you can maybe still get a ‘24 F-Type but that will end soon. Any new models going forward are supposedly going to be all electric unless they change their mind.

[@ballerblocks]

Jaguar is going to be fine, as part of the jlr group, they are going to be filling the ev group quota, and if it goes wrong, they will just use JLR platforms and engines into new combustion models.

[@dannylo4807]

The whole youtube community talking about this yet no one mention a non-hybrid 992 or Panamera will work nearly as well as its first day after 30years when maintained properly. It doesnt matter how well you maintain a Taycan, after few years or so the non-removable batteries will degrade below 70-80%…. Try finding someone wanting to buy a second hand 80miles realistic range taycan… good luck

[@TimRobson]

Fair point

[@getdealtwithquick]

Yeah, because the Panamera is such a smashing success in the used car market... limit charging to 80% for daily driving and get years of healthy battery life from an EV.

[@amaqsood1]

Love the way Taycan drives. The biggest issue is unreliable battery. When winter hits battery dies and irony is that it takes Porsche months to put a new one. Also its battery has 8 years warranty. Most likely it will be worthless once battery warranty is expired.

[@peterhammer6915]

In 8 years time, or even earlier battery replacement will cost way less than now. Lighter batteries around 20k is my estimate in 2029.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

What amazes me is the absence of the anti-EV crowd on videos about EV that they can’t afford.

[@plutodestroyer12]

eh to be fair ev’s are a luxury

[@timeslowingdown]

It's hard to hate on a Porsche even as an EV

[@verhu010]

Well many more can afford them now. Gotta love supply and demand.

[@louislambri]

Can’t afford ? More like I’ll afford to buy one. Nothing smart about losing £70k in a year. Whether you can afford it or not !!

[@timeslowingdown]

@@louislambri I can afford to buy one and I like them but I also don't wanna lose 70k in a year so I won't buy one. And i only want the range of the newest model lol

[@robertw.1499]

I'm English but live in Germany. Over here, you pay 0.25% tax, per month, on the new value of an electric car. It could be years old, you still pay that much tax. At the moment, the German government is thinking of increasing the top level of this tax relief from 70,000 to 94,000 Euros for new cars, net price. This would allow the possibility of leasing the BMW i5 40e as well as the Mercedes and Audi equivalents. I would love to lease a year old Tycan, especially as the prices have become so attractive. As the new price is over the planned 94,000 cap, I would have to pay 0,5% of the new price in tax. I love the car, but not that much...

[@esiclene]

I have a very specific question regarding the old and new one and it's regarding active suspension which should be much more efficient on the new one.

[@Bobajobbob007]

Everyone I know with a Taycan has had multiple issues from minor software, stuck charging ports to a full battery failure. It has put me off.

[@jonallen4100]

The Taycan price will continue to plunge to the point they will be rendered worthless. To me its the first disposable Porsche. I recently purchased a Macan and the Porsche dealership tried everything to push me into a Taycan, but to be honest and much as it was very tempting I could not justify or afford the constant depreciation. I will be moving to a Hybrid Cayenne hopefully next year.

[@rolandsanders-s8s]

6year unlimited mile warranty on my pre owned Taycan

[@drumminsensation]

One of the big problems with the porsche electric side was the horrific decrease in range in cold weather. Something that Hyunda, kia and tesla didn't suffer. I can't speak for Mercedes to be honest, but the porsche is by far still the best looking. I love the look of the cross turismo I just can't justify the battery efficiency.

[@scottyruss1990]

Love this. Incredibly wise words about the desirability of ev vehiclea, and a great video. There will never be a desire to buy an ev car, especially an older one. So so true. Great comparison to a smart phone, quickly outdated

[@travisbruce5096]

I was waiting for this to happen, this is the only electric car and the e-tron GT I would buy, they look so good, great design

[@michaelpilos]

Dude! Innovation will always move forward.. ICE or EVs.. not the smartest argument…

[@CASFAN]

Have you not driven the Ionic 5 N? Amazing EV that to be fair. Really puts a smile on your face and whilst the simulated gearbox sounds like a gimmick, it’s remarkable how good it is. It’s the most fun EV I’ve driven to be fair.

[@JackBremer]

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[@vxnova1]

Absolutely gorgeous car. Cross turismo may have to be on the shopping list now that the used models are much cheaper,

[@Themazcorner]

Thanks for the vid mate. Apart from the deprecation(which is inevitable) it's nice to see someone not talking down on an EV for a change 😅 Honestly for a daily and if one does not drive long distances EVs are where it's at for me. Specially performance versions of EVs you sort of get the best of two worlds(not really but still). Most folks will laugh but I think the 2024 Model 3 Performance is a baby Taycan in many ways. I would love to own a Taycan GTS but even the used ones are much much expensive than A new 3P here in Sweden(the 3P will also deprecation at lot). For sure the 3P is missing many of the things a Taycan has like a indicator stalk 😂 ( mainly radar, sensors and a real 360 camera). But it has the performance for daily stuff, enough space at least for me, it's quite refined on the 24 model and the ride is pretty good and its also pretty efficient. However with the pricing you guys have in the UK for the Taycans it's crazy value.

[@markghazal3790]

Was wondering if you bring your ICE Porsches to Independent Porsche Service Shops or to the Dealerships and why would you choose one over the other? Thanks!

[@dnesdlrow]

The topic of noise and gears in an EV is an interesting one. How about a video on the Ioniq 5 N?

[@strongerandwiser2023]

The taycan values right now are great for second hand buyers. They are like 40k. Superb car for that money.

[@simkondo]

Like how that red tag in the cup holder was responding to the g-force in corners.

[@vxnova1]

0:55 shows an ad for a 2020 taycan as brand new. 4yo and 50% off id pretty typical,

[@arazmo_tt2114]

Hi Raz is there a separate review coming for the facelift 4S?

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Yes sir! Coming in the next month or two 😎

[@N807DS]

I liked the video despite disagreeing with your options recommendations! Thanks!

[@TonySparxx]

The main issue with the tycan is range/ battery cappacity. If somehow a more potent battery for the Tycan, it will be an amasing car

[@jase298hkhk]

when I tried to order a taycan GTS sport turismo at the beginning of 2023 the sales told me that he'll be happy to sell me other cars. I was kind of mad at him thinking he was acting like people at a ferrari dealer. Now I'll be thinking him for saving me all this money. let's be real, people driving 100k plus cars will probably keep their cars for 3 years max and trade it for another one.

[@jasonfranciosa]

Would love to pick up a used 2024 Taycan for 50% off MSRP. Can't wait.

[@paulshepherd5649]

16:54 Where is 422 miles coming from? Porsche figures seem to say 360 miles max now? Up from 320. They are saying 30% more and not a jump that big from 255miles. Such an important point needs to be accurate and transparent

[@andrewhurstcars]

The real-world range of the updated Taycan is about 320 miles, vs 200 miles for the old Taycan. Big jump for the updated car.

[@paulshepherd5649]

@@andrewhurstcars I’m reading 250 to 320ish? Can’t find 422miles WLTP anywhere. Porsche saying 30% increase in range not 60%. Range is so important any talk on videos like this need to be crystal clear.

[@andrewhurstcars]

@@paulshepherd5649 go watch the Out of Spec Taycan .2 range test, it’s an easy 310 miles at 70mph. The first Taycan struggles to do much more than 210 ish.

[@paulshepherd5649]

@@andrewhurstcarsI’m more interested in comparing WLTP with WLTP as he is in this video. He talks about an 8% cost increase so this suggests he’s comparing 2025 with previous model not the very first. So a jump from 255 to 422 miles. What’s the source? Doesn’t seem to be Porsche. I’d love it to be true as I’m interested in buying one I just think a video defending its depreciation and recommending purchase needs to be crystal clear when talking about range which is a key topic with EVs obviously

[@pphilvg]

I really can’t make out the second must have options. Listened to it like 20 times but cannot make out what you are saying there. Could you please clarify? Cheers!

[@turnerkevin3]

I have been looking at a 2021 taycan turbo s for around £60k is there things I should look out for or hidden nasty repairs ?

[@ThomasHoffDE]

great video as usual. can you possibly replace the battery with one with longer range in the future?

[@pkrastev1]

I absolutely love Porsche as a whole, however, I will never purchase an EV! I have owned a new 911 RS America and absolutely loved it. Also owned a 2007 Carrera 4S and loved that also. Like many enthusiasts, I am attempting for years to purchase a new GT3 without success due to the games that dealers and others are playing with all of us. It's a shame that Porsche refuses to take control of the price wars that are currently facing all of us. In my humble opinion, Porsche should eliminate all dealers and start selling their cars themselves through centralized Porsche dealerships all managed by Porsche directly!!! Until then, I will continue giving my money to others.

[@m27gio]

Definitely agree it’s more Tesla esque! But headlight improvement for sure

[@nyc863]

In australia a TURBO S still under warranty that sold for over $400k on road is going begging at a non porsche dealer for $160k .. it has 15,000 miles on it! and all the options.

[@bartoski-ag]

u don't have real dollars 😂

[@nyc863]

@@bartoski-ag its the % that is important. Its a lot of %%%% down

[@lestatelvampir69]

Let's see if those UK prices can drop as well in Spain, as here the cheapest Taycan is around 65-70k EUR, going for a 4S Cross Turismo as I am? No less than 100-110k EUR. Shame you have the steering wheel in the wrong side :D

[@Retheraq]

A Porsche EV being overpriced? Wow. Surprising.

[@CallsignVega]

In the US, I'm only seeing big price drops on the crappy lower end models with RWD.

[@danjo911]

Most of these are corporate lease or buy so depreciation isn’t really an issue and the renters would have had all the tax breaks, which are significant. Those tax incentives made record “ sales” for Porsche, underwritten by HM gov ( so effectively every taxpayer) Now all those arrive on the used market and there’s now no tax incentives at all for the used buyers….ergo massive over supply and huge discounts.

[@BlackBirds93]

29:15 absolute necessary options you need to get

[@Metal05]

They are still £70k. That’s still a big monthly cost with a hefty deposit. Rather have an RS6.

[@hugolepre1492]

I love the RS6 but for a daily, the Taycan CT or ST GTS drives considerably better better. Other than the brakes which are better feel on the Audi the RS6 drives live a boat. Charge at home, less maintenance are very convenient.

[@raiiiar]

@@hugolepre1492it depends on your setup. In my country all current Gen electric are too heavy for the destroyed roads. My 2018 amg is destroying my kidneys even with 19 inch wheels.

[@marcschu8483]

Where do you get a rs6 from the same year as the taycan for 70k? Let’s not forget the atleast x2 in running costs per month

[@LongyUK01]

I had a C8 RS6 for 18 months and swapped out for the Taycan GTS. I have not looked back. Not once. RS6 is all reputation. When the new car excitement wears off your driving a 15mpg A6 with a body kit (I had an A6 black edition before the RS6; for over double the money the RS6 just wasn’t ‘special’ enough). The GYS is better - it just is 🤷🏻‍♂️ Funnily enough I lost over £30k on that car too…. Go figure.

[@WeAreWatchingU]

The headlights on the old version are so much better and futuristic.

[@JudsonVanDine]

Not sure if there's any other Canadian here, but are any other Canadians feeling kind of ripped that we keep being told by Brits and Americans that dealers are basically giving away used EV's? I don't think the Canadian market has got that memo. New Taycan at 4S at a Porshe dealer in like Montreal or the GTA is $175ish starting. Same car a year or two old off a lease with 10,000 km on the clock is $150k. By my count that's 15% , which is just standard depreciation rate for any vehicle...... wheres our Model Y's or Taycans or Polestars that are like half off??

[@sinematographers3344]

Good compositing between models. How did you approach this for seamless edit ? Locked off Cam + Blender ?

[@DrSaahb]

Great video as always and love the colour of this Porsche!

[@guywilkinson]

Does anyone know : what the warranty is on the battery? How much is a replacement?