2024 Taycan Market Crash: Is Now the Best Time to Buy?

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Welcome back to RBR! Today, we’re taking an in-depth look at the #Porsche #Taycan GTS amidst the current EV market turmoil. The Taycan, once a hot commodity, has seen its market value drop significantly. But does this mean it’s a bad time to buy, or could it actually be the perfect opportunity to get your hands on one? Let’s explore!
You’ve probably heard about the EV market plummeting, with models like the Taycan Turbo losing more than 50% of their value. But why has this happened? Is it just a temporary blip, or a sign of a permanent shift in the EV market? In this video, we’ll dig into what’s driving these changes and what it means for you if you’re thinking of buying one.
I’ll also share my personal experiences with the #porscheTaycan. I’ve owned two, a Cross Turismo 4S and a Sport Turismo 4S, so I will also impart my own experience. For those considering a purchase, we’ll ask the key question: Is the Taycan GTS a smart buy in the market today?
To do this, we will go beyond the market discussion and take a detailed look at one of the best models: the Taycan GTS. We will do a recap on what makes this EV stand out, and walk through its engineering and technical details, as well as performance. I’ll also take you through a real-world test of the Taycan’s range on a 450-mile road trip to Scotland-did it meet expectations, or fall short?
With the new Taycan models on the horizon, we’ll also compare the current GTS to the brand NEW Taycan in terms of tech, range and design. Is it worth holding out for the latest and greatest, or does the GTS still hold its own? You’ll get all the insights in this video.
And of course we will go for a drive, where I’ll give you my honest take on whether now is the right time to buy a Taycan, or if it’s better to wait. Could the market dip further, or is this the low point? We’ll consider all the angles before you make your decision.
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[@RemoveBeforeRace]

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[@ballerblocks]

Just imagine the depreciation these German cars will have when cheaper high end Chinese electric cars come into the market. And yes they are on par, quality and tech wise, not so much with design.

[@darkness8849]

you have to finish your fence bro, its on construction since years now :D

[@Crunch_dGH]

Re: Obsolescence Resistance. Skin deep beauty hasn’t cut it in the (Tesla-only) world of OTAUs enabled via vertically integrated electronic components that CAN’T be done when most of them are provided by subcontractors that struggle to communicate verbally, let alone electronically, with their counterparts. Thus, only Tesla & (partially, tofu dreg) BYD are able to continually refresh their products. Plus, (CCS “innovator”) VW-related cars are sadly the most retrograde, in that regard.

[@MaestroWenarto]

I had two Taycans and lost so much money....the drive is a dream - so my advice is to buy a use Taycan

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

You bought them brand-new? You are a brave man and I salut you!

[@hobear637]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722probably for a GT allocation, if not then brave isn’t the word I’d use

[@cassokon]

Thank you. Cars are depreciating assets so if you buy a new Taycan congrats; but also if you were/are able to get one cheap, congrats.

[@andrewstorm8240]

Only lose if you sell

[@bst379]

@@andrewstorm8240 Company car, then the depreciation is a tax write-off

[@Luminated67]

Personally I feel sorry for those early Taycan buyers, they were stepping into the unknown and they paid the price for it. Facts that many ignored, big saloon cars generally don’t hold their value, even ICE versions so a new technology EV one was not necessarily the right model to introduce. We have one in the family but we did it PCP back when Porsche thought they had the pricing right so are stepping out of it not costing us a packet. Only my opinion but because this technology is ever improving I think it’s mad to buy outright at the moment, better to either lease or PCP, at least with both forms you know the end cost for the period of ownership and if you don’t like it walk away.

[@ks-vq5er]

They don’t care most are leasing

[@Luminated67]

@@ks-vq5er Porsche don’t but other brands are giving great deals, I got an i5M60 for less £19K over 2 years. A £102K motor that costs you that little is the way to go.

[@Thisismyhandle218]

I got a used 2 year old Taycan 4S with a huge spec and 13k miles for less than £55k on a PCP with the Porsche 2 year warranty with a discount on extension to 3 years. I feel for the previous owner as they took a massive hit no doubt. To say that I'm pretty chuffed is an understatement, I absolutely love it and to Raj's point in the video every day I drive it it puts a smile on my face.

[@Watcheyes]

Which model year would you recommend?

[@YousufAhmad0]

The biggest mistake EV manufacturers made was to not modularize the battery pack so that owners could simply buy and swap in newer higher capacity battery packs into older models.

[@971sina]

Mistake or just good marketing 😉

[@verynormalman]

Phones used to have batteries that could be easily removed.

[@guywilkinson]

It's really difficult to engineer whilst trying to balance range and safety requirements.

[@petroskraitsis]

Nio is doing it.

[@sardororipov1302]

taycan actually has 33 modules that you can swap each and cost $800 each

[@ThesGt]

thanks for this crash, i just got a 2021 Taycan 4S with less than 20k miles for 50% of the price new, its a great car and its a blessing for ppl wanting to get a great EV car for a discounted price, got the car 2 days ago and this is by far my best car i have ever driven and i love it

[@Boutit031]

When your turn comes to sell?

[@ThesGt]

@@Boutit031 who cares, every car will lose value, EVs will just lose more that's s given, the next guy will also get a good deal on my car and I will lose money on depreciation but the main depreciation already happen with the first owner, you are overthinking it, this is not s stock or an asset to make money, cars are really just toys you waste money and enjoy them for a period of time

[@LongyUK01]

I bought a GTS new from dealer at 40% off list…. Wouldn’t run a Taycan out of warranty… for a 2021 I’d say that’s still a risk.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@Boutit031its already 50% off when he bought it.

[@rogerfroud300]

You'll probably have to keep it, because depreciation is still going to make you take a huge hit if you sell it.

[@Natak222]

Please man, more of these investigative type of videos where you go deeper than your standard but vey polished car reviews. This is all you're missing

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Appreciate the comment! We're planning on some more 😎

[@MrDead1975]

I'm so glad I didn't buy a taycan turbo 1 1/2 yrs ago, I was so close and dodged a depreciation bullet

[@ystebadvonschlegel3295]

Me too - I had spec’d around $170K taycan build and then came to my senses. Really wanted it and wife said buy it - end up with a Z4 BMW convertible instead and it’s basically free vs what I would have taken a hit on from the Taycan.

[@andrewhurstcars]

Of course you will still see a drop after you spend £70k on a second-hand GTS, if you buy one at that price as you suggest. It will drop to £40k in no time, then after 8 years the battery warranty runs out. All large four-door saloons have always lost a lot of money, that's nothing new. Look at the price of a four-year-old Panamera for comparison, the cheapest is £45k, only £5k more than a similar aged Taycan. The new Taycan is a huge step-up with about a 100 mile increase in range.

[@TheHispasians]

I just acquired a 2024 Sport Turismo GTS for 30% off MSRP. Coming from a Model S, I bought eyes wide open that EVs are not investments. Just enjoy the drive!

[@justinsymonds8470]

I agree with everything you said.a lot of non ev owners worry about range but if you can charge at home or have access to any public fast charger it really isn’t an issue if your ev can do around 250 in the summer and 200 in the winter. I started my electric journey with a i3 with 120 mile range which dropped to as low as 75 in the winter. Great for living in the city I had no issues but I moved to a rural location and it could no longer do. I got a Mercedes eqc with 250 mile range and I’ve never had to worry ever again! My next car will be a taycan, most likely sport turismo. EVs for me make THE BEST daily drivers, I get depreciation anxiety though so for me that’s the only kicker with EVs. My eqc is doing OK so far as I picked it up used!

[@Aggie4life77]

I will say that I’m in the market in the US for a used Taycan GTS which is why this video popped up on my algorithm. The values have dropped over here, but no where near what is going on over there in the UK. In the US, you will be hard pressed as of Aug 30th to find a 2022 GTS under 90k and I’m being conservative. Most are still going for close to 100k or more. That’s the 2022 version. The 2023’s and 24’s are even higher. This video said in the Uk, you can get them in the 70k range? The rear wheel drives and some 4S models are going for that depending on how they are optioned.

[@harrygreen9548]

It’s pounds vs USD so probably in the same ballpark

[@Aggie4life77]

@@harrygreen9548 ah that makes sense. 70k pounds is like 91k USA so that’s about right. I stand corrected!

[@raiiiar]

You can afford a taycan but you don't understand how different currencies work?😂 I'm sorry maybe you were hungover or something.😊

[@Aggie4life77]

@@raiiiar Man shut up! I just didn’t realize that the exchange rate was that far off. I was thinking it was closer. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@pkrastev1]

I absolutely love Porsche as a whole, however, I will never purchase an EV! I have owned a new 911 RS America and absolutely loved it. Also owned a 2007 Carrera 4S and loved that also. Like many enthusiasts, I am attempting for years to purchase a new GT3 without success due to the games that dealers and others are playing with all of us. It's a shame that Porsche refuses to take control of the price wars that are currently facing all of us. In my humble opinion, Porsche should eliminate all dealers and start selling their cars themselves through centralized Porsche dealerships all managed by Porsche directly!!! Until then, I will continue giving my money to others.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

What amazes me is the absence of the anti-EV crowd on videos about EV that they can’t afford.

[@plutodestroyer12]

eh to be fair ev’s are a luxury

[@timeslowingdown]

It's hard to hate on a Porsche even as an EV

[@verhu010]

Well many more can afford them now. Gotta love supply and demand.

[@louislambri]

Can’t afford ? More like I’ll afford to buy one. Nothing smart about losing £70k in a year. Whether you can afford it or not !!

[@timeslowingdown]

@@louislambri I can afford to buy one and I like them but I also don't wanna lose 70k in a year so I won't buy one. And i only want the range of the newest model lol

[@orlandopenahernandez7631]

About a year and a half ago I was in the position to buy a new 'daily', i really like sedans for that, so I went to my local BMW, Mercedes and Porsche. They had available 330i plug in hybrid, C43 and base Taycan sedan with some preconfigure goods. Where I'm from they don't import the high end versions b/c they are a pretty penny, you can order them. I went for the Taycan knowing that in my country there is ZERO public charging infrastructure, but is was for daily use basically for my metropolitan area which includes 6 cities with an average temperature of 33 celcius during the day. I'm very happy with my purchase I've put around 15,000 km in that time.I charge it at my house every 2 or 3 days, perfect for my needs. I always keep an ICE SUV for my long trips. That has been my experience overall.

[@808lublabs4]

I bought a brand new GTS sport turismo a year ago and I absolutely love it. I have no intentions of selling it as it is my daily so all the hype around resale doesn't bother me. Now if you're one to flip cars to try and make the cost make sense then look the other way.

[@peterinsani4203]

Fully agree, i custom ordered a brand new ‘22 Taycan CT 4S as my daily driver. If you haven’t driven one, you are missing out. I also own a 911 Cab, and my wife has a Macan S. The Taycan CT is remarkable and just as fun to drive as the 911, and more comfortable.

[@presley1234567]

Anyone who says you should lease is crazy. You still get costed in the interest and exit on the deal etc, not cheaper in real world terms. Good video bro but I’ll stick to my ICE and current 8Y RS3 Vorsprung 👊

[@joeblack1642]

All cars are depreciated nobody has money for these high price. It’s not just EV’s even ice. Vehicles are depreciating rapidly cars are too expensive.!!

[@982spyder5]

Nah, I can still get sticker price for my 4 year old Porsche Spyder.

[@LivingLifeSlower]

Wonder what destroyed GBP 🤔

[@TimeisReel]

In the US you can get used Taycans for under 50k and used Tesla Plaids under 60k. They were over 100k new. The Cybertruck is next...

[@BiiYAAAA]

The market has totally changed I thought i could keep a couple of oldies for a sale in the futrue for profit.

[@beatles4sale2007]

Big luxury ICE cars (S class / A8 / 7 series) always depreciate steeply, so the Taycan has followed this. However historically Porsche cars have always had a low curve, take a 10 year old Cayman, they are still £30K which is half a new base 781 version for example. Does a 3 year old Taycan, that is 20% in range “less” than a brand new one offer great value….for sure if you can spend £50K and not worry about losing money. However how low will they go, if Porsche can’t shift the previous gen new ones in stock and the 1.1 new ones have “incentives” or just end up in fleet? Great pod as ever…

[@fgrgtr]

Agreed with you, as a daily driver car, this is the perfect car. personally i won’t be able to get back from my CT TS, that i bought half the retail price, and shouldn’t depreciate a lot more quickly. The range is a mindset, finally better experience in long range trips with my wife, so happy to have 20min stop time to time. Compared to my previous Macan GTS, no comparison, faster, more comfortable, more space.. of course move to the new one : no way !!

[@voksic81]

I got the CPO CT 4S and I go on 800km trips just to be in that car. It's amazing with all its imperfections and quirks, just amazing. Range is irrelevant cause it charges super fast; up to 20min stops at Ionity.

[@peterhammer6915]

exactly!! Best road trip car I have ever had. Have driven 5 times now from Stockholm to Bavaria and even to Italy. 95% using Ionity.

[@livinagoodlife]

The base issue is ignorance towards battery tech + not enough infrastructure for battery maintenance/repairs. People are too scared to get a secondhand EV because they think they are already half dead .. which if you watched Rory of Top Gear's recent videos, that just isnt the case. If EV manufacturers want their brands to signify longevity then they need to invest infrastructure to compete with what exists today for ICE vehicles.

[@MrLtybul]

ev was and is pushed by leftist politicians. a product subsided right from the beginning. ice versions do not depreciate so fast, heck top versions of Porsche rooster are increasing in value. it's simple as that.

[@mikewallace1723]

For me it is buying today and out of date tomorrow. Buying a phone or tv, it isn’t that important. But the technology is changing so fast. I am old enough to remember the video player era, and the best system, Betamax, was beaten by VHS! Solid state is coming. The key drivers are range and charging time. These factors are improving all the time. Not there yet for me. Cost of these cars means it’s a worry to buy if the technology is updated so quickly and impacts the value overnight. Early days, and technology is changing fast. I get it. But this isn’t a phone purchase!

[@dynamicsoulslayer]

Incorrect. Current BEV tech has hit its plateau at the top of its S curve. Like laptops they will continue the decline of depreciation until finally becoming obsolete in 4 years.

[@JayDee-b5u]

You make infrastructure sound so easy. 😂. 'They should just do it!' 🙄

[@dannylo4807]

The whole youtube community talking about this yet no one mention a non-hybrid 992 or Panamera will work nearly as well as its first day after 30years when maintained properly. It doesnt matter how well you maintain a Taycan, after few years or so the non-removable batteries will degrade below 70-80%…. Try finding someone wanting to buy a second hand 80miles realistic range taycan… good luck

[@damindra]

Still think Hybrid and alternative fuels will be better than any full EV cars, I am happy in my hybrid porsche, quick enough, great sound and still able to toodle to the shops in silent(though silent in car parks I find wrong and should make sound)

[@Swayzeo]

The E-Tron GT devalued even more

[@pauln0371]

Which makes it even better value 👍👍👍

[@wvu2123]

They aren't popular. I've been living in Southern California for two years now and I've only seen one, I see multiple taycans every week.

[@G82Watts]

Thats insane that porsche says 0-60 3.7 then it ends up being 3.2 sec.. 😂 just like bmw.

[@pauln0371]

Crazy indeed. Even crazier when you realise it's the same time as a McLaren F1😮😮😮

[@exe889]

Picked up an official Porsche used taycan turbo S yesterday. The initial owner lost around 90k over 4 years. It's even PPFd all over. So, they saved a tax bill, I got a car I couldn't otherwise afford.

[@wallymaingear]

Bought a used GTS Sports Turismo CPO for 50% off and it's one of the best vehicles I've ever owned. Range is also OK, as i noticed Porsche is a bit more conservative with estimates than my previous Tesla.

[@lrnasigo1]

23’ GTS $113K 2K miles and 22’ GTS $92K with 15K miles in Texas

[@mayorshake7236]

This is why I am seriously concerned for Jaguar. They are completely jumping the gun….

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Is Jaguar still selling cars? As far as I know zero in America right now?

[@mayorshake7236]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 They are still selling F-Pace but that’s it. I think you can maybe still get a ‘24 F-Type but that will end soon. Any new models going forward are supposedly going to be all electric unless they change their mind.

[@ballerblocks]

Jaguar is going to be fine, as part of the jlr group, they are going to be filling the ev group quota, and if it goes wrong, they will just use JLR platforms and engines into new combustion models.

[@j.r.986]

NGL, I’m bummed to hear that you got rid of your Taycans. I thought your white CT was the best looking Taycan I’ve ever seen, exactly how I’d spec one

[@verynormalman]

I have driven at length a 4S. Porsche are cagey about weight, and probably aren't being totally truthful in their declarations when they say 2.7 tonnes. I was also told with 2 adults and "on the road" & "ready to drive" somewhere around 3.1 tonnes. The car feels every kilo. It's absolutely no sports car, and it's not as rabid as a fast Tesla (which makes me feel ill!). The air suspension is VERY detached, and you get to trust it's going to go round a corner, but you feel absolutely nothing. Therefore it's no fun to drive, and feels totally synthetic. Plus if you drive it like a sports car, you don't get anywhere near the range, and you can literally see your tyres wearing out, and at £1400 a set, that will become an issue buying a set every year. So you get free electricity? That really isn't going to help in the long run. If you get it through your business, it makes better financial sense, but you're still left with unrewarding drive.

[@apb3251]

So the benefit of having an old Taycan is using Google Maps to plan your route? 😂 I noticed as most motoring journalists also fail to mention (as they get it as part of their job) is insurance. This car is about x4 the price of its ICE equivalent to insure.

[@strongerandwiser2023]

The taycan values right now are great for second hand buyers. They are like 40k. Superb car for that money.

[@evrekaenlightenment870]

Manufacturers jacked up the prices of a car costing them 15K piece AND charges 150K what do you expect the prices to go for all not only EV versions??

[@OhMyLaurens]

Most new cars (and EV's more than most) have profit margins under 5%. The cost is just MASSIVE

[@leehossain8339]

Mugs bought EVs and super mugs bought super expensive EVs

[@jorgemirat647]

An ICE Porsche lasts for ever and if necessary can be rebuilt for an acceptable cost. How long those Tycan batteries are going to last and what the cost of replacement would be? At the end, it's like a mobile phone, when the battery goes the phone is done.

[@normanwatson9056]

This says it all and why I've never bought an EV, buyers drive the demand

[@richardmesser1091]

Good to know

[@RB-lt8kt]

Porsche app costs £270 after the first 3 years

[@Retheraq]

A Porsche EV being overpriced? Wow. Surprising.

[@Metal05]

They are still £70k. That’s still a big monthly cost with a hefty deposit. Rather have an RS6.

[@hugolepre1492]

I love the RS6 but for a daily, the Taycan CT or ST GTS drives considerably better better. Other than the brakes which are better feel on the Audi the RS6 drives live a boat. Charge at home, less maintenance are very convenient.

[@raiiiar]

@@hugolepre1492it depends on your setup. In my country all current Gen electric are too heavy for the destroyed roads. My 2018 amg is destroying my kidneys even with 19 inch wheels.

[@marcschu8483]

Where do you get a rs6 from the same year as the taycan for 70k? Let’s not forget the atleast x2 in running costs per month

[@LongyUK01]

I had a C8 RS6 for 18 months and swapped out for the Taycan GTS. I have not looked back. Not once. RS6 is all reputation. When the new car excitement wears off your driving a 15mpg A6 with a body kit (I had an A6 black edition before the RS6; for over double the money the RS6 just wasn’t ‘special’ enough). The GYS is better - it just is 🤷🏻‍♂️ Funnily enough I lost over £30k on that car too…. Go figure.

[@Ndumei21]

The honesty towards the Porsche EV segment and lack of it towards the new BMW design language and recent M cars is noticable too Raz, respectfully

[@CallsignVega]

In the US, I'm only seeing big price drops on the crappy lower end models with RWD.

[@bwest6275]

Kids, just make sure you are able to afford the maintenance. That doesn't change.

[@pauln0371]

There's hardly any maintenance on a BEV.....

[@Bobajobbob007]

Everyone I know with a Taycan has had multiple issues from minor software, stuck charging ports to a full battery failure. It has put me off.

[@user-so2qb8mm8g]

6year unlimited mile warranty on my pre owned Taycan

[@Angus_____]

Because they cant give them away thats why !

[@12f8ewfo]

This is why you always lease EVs

[@PatRick-rm6dh]

😂 🎉😅

[@zali9657]

Exactly 💯

[@LCOF]

It will be interesting if there are really good lease deals for the new Taycan.

[@andrewhurstcars]

The depreciation is still built into the cost of the lease, plus interest on top. There is no free lunch.

[@12f8ewfo]

@@andrewhurstcarsyes that is how a lease works.

[@amaqsood1]

Love the way Taycan drives. The biggest issue is unreliable battery. When winter hits battery dies and irony is that it takes Porsche months to put a new one. Also its battery has 8 years warranty. Most likely it will be worthless once battery warranty is expired.

[@peterhammer6915]

In 8 years time, or even earlier battery replacement will cost way less than now. Lighter batteries around 20k is my estimate in 2029.

[@DontEatCream]

For all that money you save, you can get a used Taycan and a used Cayenne. That way you can tow your Taycan back to the nearest charging station once you run out of juice XD.

[@N807DS]

I liked the video despite disagreeing with your options recommendations! Thanks!

[@TheLDunn1]

I’m struggling with the argument of “old EV’s not being desirable because they are inferior to new EV, but old ICE is still desirable because it can do the same as new ICE”. New ICE are generally superior more capable machines than old ICE, be that top speeds, acceleration, ride, handling etc…..in a similar way to New EV’s being superior & more capable than older EV’s, be that top speed, acceleration, ride, handling, or indeed range & shorter charging times. Something else is at play, otherwise old ICE would be depreciating the same as old EV because new ICE are usually better than the model they are replacing. Maybe, the delta between an out going ICE model & the replacement new ICE model is smaller than the delta between an old EV vs new EV model, certainly EV’s are developing at a faster pace than the more mature ICE models……but, I’m not even sure this explains it, because in the video a very old 911 was shown as still being very desirable so the delta in performance would be larger than from one EV model to the next.

[@fmsantoscar]

Exactly his argument is flawed and he demonstrates it himself by always being after the latest and greatest ICE to purchase 😂

[@TheLDunn1]

@@fmsantoscar 😂…..I didn’t know that, thanks. This is the first video of this channel I’ve seen & watched. Other than struggling with the logic of the EV depreciation argument, I thought this was a good & interesting video though.

[@misterdragzon]

EVs always felt destined to be commodity products; they'll never be ensouled and therefore desirable.

[@rogerfroud300]

Wrong. In ten year they'll be everywhere, cheaper to buy than ICE cars, cheaper to own and last much longer. The tech is much easier to manufacture and the drivetrain is so simple. I'll be buying really old depreciated ones, just like I do with ICE vehicles.

[@Huiando]

250 miles is way less than 410. Sweet spot is 500 from charging infrastructure perspective. Completely removes any range anxiety. 800 mi is not necessary. Ones a car has 500+ miles, there is no reason to update to one with 800mi. I owned evs for the very 6 years and battery degradation is tiny.

[@brownhairydog6472]

Comparing EVS to phones is exactly the correct analogy. Mod cars and EVS even more so have become generic and pretty much offer the same features regardless of brand. A lot of this has to do with regulation but many consumers just want something reliable with heaps of features and don't really care about a logo on the front. Unfortunately. Jeff, save for very few examples. It's going to be harder and harder for EVS to stand out and that hits the luxury brands the most.

[@runbuh]

Before you buy a gen 1 Taycan, read the long thread on their Taycan forum titled "Underbody Protection Panel damaged. Batteries and coolant lines need inspection. $72.5K replacement & labor cost.". A 3.33mm dent in the panel requires a complete battery replacement.

[@sparko58]

“But this is your standard body” X2 😂

[@jonathancollard3710]

By far the best graphics on any YT channel in U.K. or USA. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Good informative vid

[@TheophilusPWildbeest]

Great report, much of it also applies to my car, I bought a BMW i4-40 a year and a half ago and thought HP finance would give me a better result than PCP. Wrong, and I'm feeling the pain with 50% depreciation. Love the car (including the Hans Zimmer sound effects) and it's plenty fast enough for me, like you I don't need sport mode, and the range is 250 in winter and 300 in summer which does me for a week. I normally change my car every two years but I think I'll hang onto this one because (a) I think it's great and (b) I don't want another horrible depreciation hit. Anyone who buys a similar used i4 now is getting a bargain, same as the Taycan.

[@AndrewTSq]

There are 27 Taycans below 80k for sale here in Sweden right now. It will soon replace a old Cayenne for that Porsche only people with no money owns cause they are cheap to buy :D

[@drumminsensation]

One of the big problems with the porsche electric side was the horrific decrease in range in cold weather. Something that Hyunda, kia and tesla didn't suffer. I can't speak for Mercedes to be honest, but the porsche is by far still the best looking. I love the look of the cross turismo I just can't justify the battery efficiency.

[@Arken2249]

Great presentation. I wish prices were as cheap here in America. My only reasons for not buying EV is poor charging infrastructure and low range. They need to hit at least 375 miles. Subscribed!

[@CASFAN]

Have you not driven the Ionic 5 N? Amazing EV that to be fair. Really puts a smile on your face and whilst the simulated gearbox sounds like a gimmick, it’s remarkable how good it is. It’s the most fun EV I’ve driven to be fair.

[@dnesdlrow]

The topic of noise and gears in an EV is an interesting one. How about a video on the Ioniq 5 N?

[@RB-lt8kt]

Lets be honest the manufacturers were greedy especially since 2022. They released cars at excessive prices as EV's were seen as the new must have cars. Most people looked past the fact that you are supposed to keep the battery between 20 and 80 % most of the time so using 60% of he capacity. Porsche rapid charging will degrade the battery faster. I nearly bought a Taycan but was put off by the Lithium Ion battery being so expensive plus the number of faults drivers reported from cabin heaters to rear lights, cooling fans and brakes. I think prices have flat lined at £40k because no seller wants to give the car away. I prefer the front of the first gen cars.

[@simkondo]

Like how that red tag in the cup holder was responding to the g-force in corners.

[@peterhammer6915]

In our country the Panamera depreciates as fast as the Taycan.

[@PabloConcrete]

Whoever buys a second hand Taycan need to have their head checked!

[@PatRick-rm6dh]

I totally agree. Why would anyone buy all the degradation on everything more and less essential and to be replaced or overhauled within x miles.

[@mikegregory8353]

One of the few videos that makes a Porsche EV appealing. Taycan is too big BUT it’s making me think, from a driving experience, the upcoming Boxster & Cayman might be quite interesting.

[@BlackBirds93]

29:15 absolute necessary options you need to get

[@TonySparxx]

The main issue with the tycan is range/ battery cappacity. If somehow a more potent battery for the Tycan, it will be an amasing car

[@Line-vw5io]

7hr drive and you will stop for a couple of hours???? Don't think so. What do you do, book a hotel??

[@sinematographers3344]

Good compositing between models. How did you approach this for seamless edit ? Locked off Cam + Blender ?

[@Themazcorner]

Thanks for the vid mate. Apart from the deprecation(which is inevitable) it's nice to see someone not talking down on an EV for a change 😅 Honestly for a daily and if one does not drive long distances EVs are where it's at for me. Specially performance versions of EVs you sort of get the best of two worlds(not really but still). Most folks will laugh but I think the 2024 Model 3 Performance is a baby Taycan in many ways. I would love to own a Taycan GTS but even the used ones are much much expensive than A new 3P here in Sweden(the 3P will also deprecation at lot). For sure the 3P is missing many of the things a Taycan has like a indicator stalk 😂 ( mainly radar, sensors and a real 360 camera). But it has the performance for daily stuff, enough space at least for me, it's quite refined on the 24 model and the ride is pretty good and its also pretty efficient. However with the pricing you guys have in the UK for the Taycans it's crazy value.

[@jasonfranciosa]

Would love to pick up a used 2024 Taycan for 50% off MSRP. Can't wait.

[@papugenas]

for me the biggest EV issue would be battery price which is just insane, when few years old taycan cost less than batteries you know this market is doomed.

[@chrisconey7062]

19:25 There is a 'but' to the 20 minute charging stops though. As far as I understand it, fast charging has a negative impact on the lifetime health of the battery and leads to reduction in overall capacity if it is continually fast charged. This is what Harry was saying in terms of two 24,000 mile electric cars of equal spec not being of equal value. The one which has only ever been slow charged overnight at home will be worth more and have better battery health than the one that was constantly fast charged. However there is no standard way to report this on used EVs that are for sale, leading people to be weary of buying a dud.

[@donwilber1628]

Good video. Looking at US prices, used Taycans are still $110-125k from Porsche, and mid $50s for a 2020, and up to $170k for newer models on the on other sites. Guess you should buy in the UK.

[@ReadMyComments]

The headlights on the old version are so much better and futuristic.

[@AGDunc]

I don’t understand the drive mode comments. They feel very different to me. I use Sport Plus for everything bar motorway cruising. The throttle response is completely different

[@keithalexander6881]

Truth with the Taycan, it’s more complicated than just comparing the economic side to an iPhone… many where bought by business people on cheap tax incentives here in the UK, it’s a victim of this rule and high initial sales, 1-2 year old leased cars then flooding the market and with the second owner only being a private buyer, far more cars than buyers exist. Many business owners selling these cars are probably not losing heavily if the loss is a tax write off? And if on a PCP/lease type deal a private owner is limited in exposure too, it’s VW finance that have had to take a massive hit on the difference between the promised buy back price and its true follow on resale value.

[@dk1872]

I test drove the Taycan yesterday. Great car but leaving the Porsche dealership and going back to my AMG to drive home felt amazing. You do see the difference in the weight, the agility and the drama of an AMG. If you are a petrol head it will be a huge mistake to buy a Taycan as your only car. as a 2nd car, 100% worth it!

[@dk1872]

Also what this video forgot to mention is that in the UK with salary sacrifice you can get a new Taycan for effectively 50% discount. Now the depreciation doesn’t look that bad, does it? If anything, you would be crazy to buy a used one!

[@peterhammer6915]

My Taycan is more nimble than any AMG I have driven. Granted, I haven't driven any small ones but the same sized AMG:s feel like boats in compared to the Taycan.

[@DrSaahb]

Great video as always and love the colour of this Porsche!

[@paulshepherd5649]

16:54 Where is 422 miles coming from? Porsche figures seem to say 360 miles max now? Up from 320. They are saying 30% more and not a jump that big from 255miles. Such an important point needs to be accurate and transparent

[@andrewhurstcars]

The real-world range of the updated Taycan is about 320 miles, vs 200 miles for the old Taycan. Big jump for the updated car.

[@paulshepherd5649]

@@andrewhurstcars I’m reading 250 to 320ish? Can’t find 422miles WLTP anywhere. Porsche saying 30% increase in range not 60%. Range is so important any talk on videos like this need to be crystal clear.

[@andrewhurstcars]

@@paulshepherd5649 go watch the Out of Spec Taycan .2 range test, it’s an easy 310 miles at 70mph. The first Taycan struggles to do much more than 210 ish.

[@paulshepherd5649]

@@andrewhurstcarsI’m more interested in comparing WLTP with WLTP as he is in this video. He talks about an 8% cost increase so this suggests he’s comparing 2025 with previous model not the very first. So a jump from 255 to 422 miles. What’s the source? Doesn’t seem to be Porsche. I’d love it to be true as I’m interested in buying one I just think a video defending its depreciation and recommending purchase needs to be crystal clear when talking about range which is a key topic with EVs obviously

[@mtx1212]

it's all cyclical, just as ICE vehicles 2 years ago was depreciating like crazy, EV is now going through the same low trench...nothing to lose sleep over as market price will always normalize down the road

[@trqster]

Let's be honest here, only in the UK they're that cheap! A used Taycan in my european country will hold its value really well, almost impossible to find one for less than 60k GBP

[@pauln0371]

TBF with the state of our roads and the amount of speed cameras you could save even more money and just buy a newer Audi E Tron GT which is comfier and more than quick enough for a daily driver.These now start on a 71 plate with circa 30k miles for about £40k...

[@liquid_metal]

Reasons for the Taycan eye-watering depreciation are multifaceted and I explain it below. I fortunately pulled the plug on a GTS Sport Turismo beginning of 2023 having received an allocation. Very glad I did, even though it's an awesome car. Like everything in economics, if something skyrockets, it will plummet at a similar rate. And Taycan used prices skyrocketed through 2022, an outcome of a lack of supply because of a microchip shortage; the first signs of inflation; and a lack of available finance. The only way from there was down at a similar rapid pace and like in physics, something hurtling that fast will crash spectacularly. And that is exactly what happened. I had a suspicion that would happen though was also leaving the UK, so even less point in having a relatively unused car in storage. While the reasons for this include the updated model, which was anticipated even beginning of last year containing new tech; the microchip availability issue being solved; competitor cars launching on the market that provided a similar ride quality/fun for half the price or less; the lack of available finance; but mostly because the Taycan was the most popular EV model for business owners and salary sacrifice schemes - because of the excellent tax incentives. Many of those were on 3 year terms 2020>2023, so a flood of used Taycan's hit the market creating the perfect storm. Used buyers held off expecting further falls meaning inventory continued increasing, and used prices reversed even more aggressively. Basically two years of inverted depreciation from the pandemic to 2022, where used prices were higher than new, reversed aggressively into 2023 where the the typical compounding of depreciation from 2020-23 all hit in the same year. Panicked, Porsche discontinued the GTS to try and maintain some price balance, but it's not enough. Had I went ahead with my £130k optioned GTS, within 6 months I would have lost £30k at least. Annualised, some 30-40% depreciation! What made this worse for many new Porsche customers is they purchased it via their business or salary sacrifice expecting used prices to remain high. They otherwise could not afford the car. In 3-6 months, many of these people were facing losses of £20-30k and where they are stuck on a 3 year finance term, they will eventually write off a total of £45-80k depending on the model they purchased and how imprudent they got with options. The lesson here with all luxury EVs is: wait, and then buy second hand UNLESS you get an excellent PCP or finance deal.

[@dreamst]

The insanity lies in the MSRP. 150K

[@PappLacc]

Will be a GTS trim from the new 2024 facelift version? This GTS looks soo much better than the facelift models.

[@johnshaw359]

Depreciation is good, I hoped no one would notice.

[@DjNikGnashers]

Thanks for reminding me where I dropped my wallet, I'll be round to collect the contents later.

[@FrankWhite-t2v]

I’m sorry there no sunroof in this car not even an option these cars need a sunroof because using the air conditioner is using more electricity reduces RANGE

[@leeedens9497]

Every Porsche is already overpriced to start with and an EV Porsche with questionable rear seat room and the updated Taycan proves why you get F____d over when buying an expensive EV

[@arazmo_tt2114]

Hi Raz is there a separate review coming for the facelift 4S?

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Yes sir! Coming in the next month or two 😎

[@robertw.1499]

I'm English but live in Germany. Over here, you pay 0.25% tax, per month, on the new value of an electric car. It could be years old, you still pay that much tax. At the moment, the German government is thinking of increasing the top level of this tax relief from 70,000 to 94,000 Euros for new cars, net price. This would allow the possibility of leasing the BMW i5 40e as well as the Mercedes and Audi equivalents. I would love to lease a year old Tycan, especially as the prices have become so attractive. As the new price is over the planned 94,000 cap, I would have to pay 0,5% of the new price in tax. I love the car, but not that much...

[@paulbunyan9436]

I would love to put the V8 engine from the Panamera Sport Turismo in the Taycan.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

You can already buy it brand new : its only called Panamera , that would be fun if you swap the logo in the back out 😆

[@verhu010]

"You're gonna stop for more than that, probably a couple hours." or I'm going to stop for five minutes to fill up the tank and keep rolling.

[@FranCarreira]

If your aim is to reach your destiny as fast as you could, I agree, but if you are traveling with kids or just with some good company, in a seven hour drive you will probably use your refilling stops to have something to eat, go and pee, or just stretch your legs. Plus, on average your stop to refill a fuel tank is longer, it only takes five minutes to refill, but if you have cars in front you add their time too (that happens a lot in certain roads at certain times of the year, then you have to go an pay for the fuel, and maybe lose some other time in the shop choosing some snack and waiting on the queue. On the other side if the charging station is busy your recharging will also take longer than in the video.

[@Youppp]

No no no of course you can find things to do and make an event of charging. Or you can simply fill your car with gas and get to your destination safely and in good time. Free ways and service stations are magnets for accidents, danger and high retail prices.

[@louislambri]

Charging your Porsche on the forecourt can cost in the region of £90. And you said let’s not talk about that. I say you should focus on that. The whole idea of electric (to begin with anyway) was that they were so much more cost effective. In my eyes they never were. Totally over priced in every way. The makers are all having a laugh.

[@poonster]

Most charging takes place at home, at a fraction of that price. Forecourt fast charging is for road trips and emergencies only.

[@pauln0371]

If you get the right night time tariff it can work out as cheap as 12p/kWh. So from less then 10% to 100% would be about £11....Now tell me it's more expensive than a Petrol car😂😂😂

[@ph8077]

Funny, I've just bought another house & it has a "3 phase fast charger" apparently, whatever that means - more research needed I guess. I currently own a 2023 RS5 Vorsprung coupe & I'm thinking of replacing it in the next few months. By pure coincidence today on Autotrader I noticed the brilliant value of 1-year-old Taycans with

[@mikewallace1723]

Check insurance cost. Another area where they fleeced you.