I love geek tests. This is the type of proper old-school moto journalism that’s hard to come by in the age of the influencer just happy to get an invite to [exotic location]. Well done Si and well done Bennetts. More of these please, they’re really the best thing on KZbin.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
@@903lew Great comment, thank you. It’s this type of feedback that makes us want to more, and it becomes so much more justifiable. Cheers, Michael
@elwalker90342 ай бұрын
I heard it was Cross Beam Racer
@Esepeaso2 ай бұрын
This is bike journalism at its very best.
@Professor_Gascan2 ай бұрын
"CBR stands for City Bike Racing" for as many times as I've heard that name I never knew that's what the letters stood for. Thanks man.
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@shvy1002 ай бұрын
cross beam racer
@paulhope34012 ай бұрын
@shvy100 According to Google you are correct... I think it stands for 'community based rehabilitation' though. ;)
@thehowlingterror2 ай бұрын
Now that’s how you present. No cut edits after every sentence and the lack of video zoom ins was appreciated. Il4 600s screaming down a road…pure heaven. Thanks for the video and may the Bass be with you Simon H.
@writestuffmedia2 ай бұрын
Hi - I'm Simon H, posting as me, not Bennetts. Have to say, a bit overwhelmed. Thank you for your kind words and thoughts about the video; I really, really appreciate them all, and it's so good to feel a sense of shared community. Bikes are like that - we all just *get* it, whatever our reasons, and that's what matters more than anything. Right, enough of that. Let's ride ✊
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
Top work Si! Cheers, John
@tomdawson-k9b2 ай бұрын
Best review yet! So many independent KZbinrs giving reviews sounding like they are just regurgitating stuff they’ve read by real journalists. Love the level of detail in the review - particularly dyno comparison section
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
@@tomdawson-k9b love this comment 👍🏻
@deyanrs1Ай бұрын
Woow, this video was soo refreshing and nice to watch! Really hope more of those coming along... Cheers from the US 🎉
@iainwhite34762 ай бұрын
This is exactly what we need in terms of review and geek out test….. more please
@siraff44612 ай бұрын
When most videos are launch "reviews" at a paid for track weekend somewhere sunny and involve almost no research past reading the press pack, this is a very welcome breath of fresh air. Real, in depth figures and actually testing those figures to keep tabs on accuracy is exactly what a journalist should be doing. Its how it used to be. You could trust the tests because they actually tested the bikes against a clock, on a dyno, on scales and so on. I still remember when Yamaha claimed a massive rev limit for the R6 and got caught with their pants down when someone did the numbers on a dyno vs the gearing - I think it may have been John Robinson? Either way it was miles out and even though they tried to say it was a mistake the point stood because they must have known exactly what rpm it was doing to be able to fire the plugs. Real journalism like that is very hard to find these days. Keep up the good work, Si.
@MadChalet2 ай бұрын
Now that's honest journalism. One thing missing ... headlight performance. It gets overlooked all the time - for me it's critical, as I do ride at night (especially true when I'm touring the countryside, where streetlights are few).
@apratim9872 ай бұрын
Absolute pleasure to watch this on a Sunday morning when i cant ride out! More such videos would be welcome, maybe the Kawasaki ZX4RR next? :D
@Federico740Ай бұрын
Geek tests are amazing !!! We need more!
@CelestialNocturne2 ай бұрын
I'd buy one of these in a heartbeat; the 600RR was my high school dream machine back in the day. Nowadays though, Honda doesn't even offer it at all in Canada. A tragedy, to say the least.
@Maxreadys2 ай бұрын
Never liked geeks, strange bunch but the review was honest and everything good was in relation to the road which is where we ride. I’m 62 and I have the 2024 model RR changing from a BMW1250RS. I was so bored on that bike, although it’s a good bike and took a complete punt on the RR much to the amusement of my mates. I accept all the figures aren’t life changing but when do these ever translate to a bike on the road? I’m not a track rider but I guess it’s not too bad doing that, just ask Jack Kennedy. As far as road riding is concerned this bike is just bloody awesome. The exhaust noise is addictive, the induction noise is gorgeous I totally love it. Yes it’s two bikes in one but in a nice way, under 7000 it’s a great street legal, comfy- ish, fuel efficient ( 200 miles a tank) head turning piece of art. Over that it transforms into a screaming, pin point, smile inducing racing machine. No I wouldn’t want to take it down a Fenland road but there again you can’t take much down one them besides a tractor. All other roads haven’t been a problem as the suspension copes really well with all my mates on KTM’s and GS’s. Then only pain I get is from my arms, probably because I don’t go fast enough but I’ve done a 700 mile trip around Wales and 250 miles in one day because I was having do much fun. Anyway please don’t buy one so mine becomes a collectors item for my kids !
@Grahamvfr2 ай бұрын
Always love Simon doing these type of reviews. Still shocks me with his mpg though ..."have you spilt some"?. Not a fan of standing starts, too much relying on technique, perhaps , 10mph clutch already out would tell us more about the bikes performance and not the riders performance. Keep these coming 👍👍
@MrKamechan2 ай бұрын
Wow. Loved the accurate history, and numbers. Next level test. Just wow~~~
@viasevenvai2 ай бұрын
Great to see a video saluting the lineage of true sports heritage. I learned something.
@cp45122 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this. I’ve still got a 2009 ZX6R and love scratching on a sunny Sunday morning on it. I really like the looks of the new CBR600RR.
@zlatomirzlatanov65082 ай бұрын
My 2024 CBR is feeling fantastic on track after full exaust and remapping the mid range ....
@alejandrog55315 күн бұрын
Do you use in street with this spec or change exhaust ? How much improve?
@zlatomirzlatanov650815 күн бұрын
@@alejandrog553 I manage to squeeze extra 10 hp on the rear wheel with full titanium Akra system and DNA air filter.
@bimmeracing8 күн бұрын
Im thinking of doin the same , or just save up for a fireblade
@zlatomirzlatanov65088 күн бұрын
@@bimmeracing got a friend with fireblade sp .... its the same EU restrictions kill it ... after full system and remap ... its a BEAST
@kaw75132 ай бұрын
Lots of information and history of CBR600RR. Very informative 👍🏼👍🏼. Thank you
@GaryJohnWalker12 ай бұрын
This format is terrific. Much more like a video version of the old magazine tests - plus some. And your variant of the mcn250 - nice.
@anupgurung3445Ай бұрын
Watching this video reminiscing my uni days, I feel like I am not watching but attending one of my favourite profs. lectures back in time. Hats off to Bennett's team!!!
@davidbarton74632 ай бұрын
Perhaps I should grow up a bit(I'm 57), but last year I put my CBR400RR back on the road and the one you featured here is exactly the same colour, it is an amazing pocket rocket of which I have done another 5000 Km on bringing it up to nearly 50,000Km. Really pleased the younger generation can still go out and buy something similar from Honda, do it you know you want one.
@pvtmustaqimАй бұрын
you're never too young to let loose! Hats off to you sir for Huffing and puffing on a 400rr despire your age!
@kleinbottled792 ай бұрын
Kinda wanna see the dynos of a full system and tune equipped 2017 and 2024.
@BIGGIEsmalls132 ай бұрын
This is a great format. Rare these days to have knowledge and experience. Good work Babes!
@paololanzoni66392 ай бұрын
Fantastic review , bring back so many good memory , keep going please 😁
@steveparish9210Ай бұрын
1st time I’ve seen geek test really like it, very thorough . Enjoyed the history lesson too . Really love this bike
@davidlagno77172 ай бұрын
I owned a carburated F4, a 03RR and 07. First mod i did on the 07 was the gearing. 520 chain -1 +2. Yea you lose top end speed. Rip that end can off and hollow out catelizer. It completely alters power delivery. Im not gonna waste time explaining it but its a damn fine road bike that fills a void that only a much larger more expensive bike can fill. Im not just an enthusiast for the past 30yrs. Motorcycles are my life. Without them id surely have traded my adrenaline addiction for drugs or murder, idk. Thank Christ for race bikes.
@danielhasahondaandtriumph2 ай бұрын
Cheers for this Simon great watch would love a cbr600rr as a second bike 🏍️ if I ever get some spare cash 😂
@seanfahey97872 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, a lovely indulgent review of bike rather than another list video. Reminds me of the old cycle world magazine reviews I’ve been addicted reading lately. Also shows older bikes were pretty close in performance to current bikes, they’re just a bit worn out now. Imagine a re-released CBR900rr, that would sell.
@MotorbikeCoach2 ай бұрын
Nice reel Simon - Especially liked “It’s like riding a pair of vernier callipers” 😊
@garyedmondson7962 ай бұрын
Brilliant content,brought back memories of PB , was best mag around , great in-depth review, sports bikes seem to be having a resurgence at moment, we all need one in our collection 🤩👍🏻
@teneretraveller89802 ай бұрын
The rah rah might not be my type of bike anymore, but I'm so glad i was living and riding in the era when sports bikes were king, coffee was still instant and an exotic breakfast was a Little Chef gutbuster. Brilliant stuff, as always. Btw, 56 is not old. Just a boy. Ride safe 👍
@petehaworth59592 ай бұрын
Think I have passed the geek test, loved the video and the bike! At nearly 50 years old and after 30 years of riding I should probably favour something more sensible and comfortable. But, after taking my 2007 GSXR1000 on a 2500 mile trip around the Pyrenees and Picos this summer, for me sports bikes are still the ultimate and most engaging riding experience 😁
@146mattАй бұрын
Love this review. Top work Simon 💪
@johnnyblue47992 ай бұрын
Great video! I'm 56 also and I won't grow up... I want one. Either the CBR600RR, or the ZX.-6R. Will you please do a similar video with the ZX-6R?
@bennettsbikesocial2 ай бұрын
@@johnnyblue4799 Cheer, thanks for the comment. Yes, the ZX6R is on the list but Kawasaki didn’t bring many to the UK and even the press bike was sold! Don’t worry, we’re working on it.
@johnnyblue47992 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial Thank you for your reply. I'm going to write an angry letter to Kawasaki. This situation is not acceptable.
@elcookiemonsteruАй бұрын
Im a Honda guy, i love the 600RR even more than the Fireblade.....The revving is just too damn awesome! My 2008 goes 17.000RPM..... I really wanted to buy the 2024 model, but here in Finland is costing 18 990 € which is just...R.tarded... Meanwhile 12.000€ In Germany.... :(
@splodge572 ай бұрын
Enjoyed that look at the CBR. Great looking bike but the front indicators should be in the mirrors. I'll be keeping my 2002 Kawasaki ZX6R, brilliant fun to ride and I love it.😊
@thektmkid69902 ай бұрын
This was fantastic, more of these please 🙌
@viralvidstv11912 ай бұрын
So glad I clicked on this video
@gordonsuddery46352 ай бұрын
A proper bike test at last love your geeg test. My best wishes to you from the Philippines ❤️💪👍😉😀😁🏁🛺🏍️🐑🇵🇭🏴⭐
@josecc337Ай бұрын
Great review! Greetings from Spain.
@Screamifyoumeanit2 ай бұрын
2:29 When I bought my RD125 back in 1989 from Colchester motorcycle breakers, it also had a full fairing... It didn't look as bad as that one! But the bike was also white and red... Needless to say, the full fairing went & was replaced by an original nose cone and belly pan. I loved that bike!
@adiohead2 ай бұрын
Best review I've seen!
@flexywing2 ай бұрын
Love the Geek tests
@DaveCBR600F2 ай бұрын
Brilliant video very interesting 👌
@ovidiuteo52782 ай бұрын
This is exactly what automotive evaluation should look like!
@mikemills511Ай бұрын
Great review my man's this is how reviews should be done.There so many influencers/reviewer's out there that are sh*t and talk absolutel bullsh*t.
@elwalker90342 ай бұрын
Woah. You did a great job researching and testing. Now I feel silly for looking at a new CBR. Dealerships must hate you. 😄
@markyoung20622 ай бұрын
Well done Simon!
@wheelsandrevs2 ай бұрын
Awesome content this!
@richardbullen65152 ай бұрын
Really good informative review.
@bowches2 ай бұрын
I love this type of shizzle. Great information for us normal riders
@fuglbirdАй бұрын
Thank you for this excellent review. I believe the proper term is knowledgeable review - not geek test. It seems to be a nice motorcycle. I've been riding motorcycles since 1973 and bought my latest this May: A 2018 Suzuki SV650. You could say that the top range of the SV650 is the middle range of the CBR600RR but with the power a little notch higher. For me that works very well. I'm never even close to the 10,000 RPM red line. I hope I will meet the new CBR600RR on my holidays. I won't see many home in Denmark because of the registration tax.
@TBiker0002 ай бұрын
Excellent review. I wonder how much better this bike would be with a straight through pipe and re-map? How much mid range torque would we get back, more than before or same as before?
@eddmelter1012Ай бұрын
Nice test! Can you do one for the 1krr? Probably the same conclusions right? Be interested to understand if its better useability im terms of mid range
@ricardo68612 ай бұрын
Great video as usual no mention of the hot seat tho as reported by mcn
@robvanduren7612 ай бұрын
A friend of mine put a 900 fireblade engine into a CBR 600 FN. It went really well. I never rode it but 99% of people only saw the back of it.
Excellent as usual. 👍 1) I'm too old for this bike. 😭 2) I didn't realise an extra 50cc made such a difference. 😱 3) You need to live in Spain with their billiard ball smooth, winding roads to own this bike. 🌞
@lonpfrbАй бұрын
1. Ride a Road Bicycle for training 2. Different engine with Euro compliance in mind, bore, stroke, cams... 3. Track days to give it full gas
@headrace48632 ай бұрын
The early naughties bikes are the peak road/race balance in my experience. I’ve got a 1000RR5, tested the RR-RSP April this year. No doubt it’s ‘better’ on track, but on road it’s infuriating. I kept my RR5 and saved £20k, sort of as I bought an ATAS instead. The build quality of the earlier bikes is in another universe and any parts you need are mere pennies on eBay and limitless it seems. HRC know what they’re doing.
@rickphillips29002 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 96 F3 and it’s great.
@bimmeracing8 күн бұрын
I bought a cbr600rr 2024 last year , amazing bike , but my gsxr600 2010 was quicker though , but euro5 yes . But u still can buy a full exhaust and do ecu flash and its amazing .
@zyghom2 ай бұрын
perfect video, audio still behind it ;)
@Shaco116Ай бұрын
How about body position in comparision to F4i?
@jpaube1Ай бұрын
would love to see this of the cbr1000rr
@goldfish81962 ай бұрын
Such an excellent video. Thank you. HONDA, PLEASE bring it to the USA
@caspianprince2 ай бұрын
Dyno charts explain exactly where the bottom fell out of the 600 market... down the same hole that the midranged drained out of
2 ай бұрын
Sounds like my old GSXR600. Sod all below 10000rpm, but a blast above 11000rpm. Got a bit wearing after a while though
@ljubott2 ай бұрын
Thank you master 👍I need Fireblade from TT Marshals😜🇮🇲😉 very nice 🖐 greetings
@marcolin26822 ай бұрын
you did not comment on the heat from the exhaust under the seat...how does it compare to the 2014 model? thx
@lonpfrbАй бұрын
Not a real world issue unless you insist on commuting in town summer time. Try a Ducati if you want to cook yourself..
@swheelman72312 ай бұрын
I got an '07.
@liadh_xАй бұрын
having owned both a rs250 aprilia and a brand new orange cbr600rr 06 - it is only an itch a 2 stroke can itch yes the cbr may be better 100mph plus have a smoother gear change and more stable in the wind but for pure pleasure buy a 2 stroke, the cbr is a better road bike (using for work ) the aprilia is a proper sunday bike bike
@TheBadMadMan7862 ай бұрын
Please please PLEASE dyno a stock 2007 CBR600RR and overlay it with the 2024 model. Excellent content!
@lonpfrbАй бұрын
The 2007 and 2014 are very similar given that Showa forks and ABS were the main difference.
@TheBadMadMan786Ай бұрын
@lonpfrb not true. In 2009 honda retarded ignition timing for emissions purposes. 07-08 were not intentionally nerfed.
@RobertOyston2 ай бұрын
Always thought it stood for cross beam racer.
@paulcompme856Ай бұрын
I think you folks are over thinking it. The 2024 CBR 600 RR is a fantastic bike. It's got plenty of torque in all gears. If you are trying to start out in 6th gear then you are going to have problems. Otherwise, this bike is Outstanding and handles like a dream. Maybe your just overthinking it. Cheers.
@ashwinraggs42262 ай бұрын
12:16 Good launch tbh :)
@prof.22482 ай бұрын
top job
@TheTonicro2 ай бұрын
Love the geek test. Love the cbr600rr. What it needs is a decat and a remap to being back the midrange. Few tweaks to suspension settings for the bumpy road and its perfect.
@bachpham53572 ай бұрын
I'd pay to see this.
@jacobwhite9961Ай бұрын
Hey im 19, is your demographic really in the 40-60 range? Because the way you talk definitely makes it feel that way.
@jacobwhite9961Ай бұрын
Like the content is great but, when you go on about back when you were younger im like, yeah that's me right now. With my royal enfield 650 interceptor because I didn't want a mt 03 or a restricted mt07 like most people my age get
@bennettsbikesocialАй бұрын
@@jacobwhite9961 hi, good to hear from you and thanks for getting in touch. Yes, statistically the average age of a motorcyclist in the UK is between 45-54 and while we don’t ever want to alienate any demographic, the intro to the Geek Test format is to offer a little history about each model just in case our viewers need refreshing. I certainly found it useful when Simon gets deep into the CBR600’s past! Are there any models you like to see as part of the Geek Tests going forward? Cheers, Michael
@timothykamholz7222Ай бұрын
Bring the bike to America 🇺🇸
@Emily-ou6lq2 ай бұрын
😯GEEK TEST 😍♥
@thetonetosser2 ай бұрын
So to sum up, just find yourselves a nice 2014-17 bike.
@lonpfrbАй бұрын
From 07 year model
@maximusvon2 ай бұрын
So: - What do we do to fix the weakness in the mid-range? Full system, tune and gearing / sprocket change? What modification would give the most bang for the buck? - I saw another video that suggested that getting a full system without cat might help with this bike's heat issue - do you agree? Great video guys!
@Phillc7482 ай бұрын
For me, more evidence that the Japanese have lost touch, maybe the bike industry has. I had a CBR6RR in 2009, but even if Honda want to appeal to me, I’m not buying something that fundamentally delivers less than the bike I had in 2009. We’ve been spoilt with grungy useable triples ever since. Considering they had to re-homologate this, and because of next gen super sport rules, they w]could have made it 650/700cc even if that keep the power around 125hp but gave a huge bump in useable grunt. I think it’s seemed popular in its first year back but I think sales will fall off a cliff this year, the Yamaha R9 will be £12k, in effect maybe £25 a month more on PCP, not to mention other competitors like RS660 which might not have the peak power but probably as a road bike have nicer torque delivery.
@quacker9982 ай бұрын
So the 1994 bike is a better road bike with a more fun midrange throttle, got it.
@lonpfrbАй бұрын
Much bigger and heavier with less power. I've owned CBR600F-98 CBR929-2001 CBR600RR-04 CBR600RR-08 Öhlins TTX36 & K-Tek valve kit The 07-08 year model is the best road or track. Later years added Showa and ABS so nothing for me. Euro regs killed the 600 supersport.
@theant98212 ай бұрын
It's begging to have a decent full system on it, I'd like to see a side by side comparison of the 2013 bike vs the new one with the same exhaust fitted.
@johnnyhun1Ай бұрын
first time I'm hearing somebody sane enough to say sport bikes are actually comfortable if you ride them as they are meant to be.... leaning on the tank and not sitting upright in lion king position
@lonpfrbАй бұрын
They're all about correct fit to the lower body so the upper body has nothing to do except hold the handle bars gently. Damper does the hard work. Thus tank pads can help loads to grip easily.
@johnnyhun1Ай бұрын
@@lonpfrb my experience is that you have to hold your whole body by your lower back, you can help squeezing the tank with your legs and never put weight on the grips&wrists, because within minutes numbness starting... and your whole back have to be straight while leaning, otherwise back pain comes... but if you go below ~130 km/h, it's still not fully comfortable, but when you go above 180 km/h it's super comfortable because the wind and acceleration push you back so you can relax. All in all, sport bikes on the street are freaking dangerous, becaue you HAVE to ride them hard.
@lonpfrbАй бұрын
@johnnyhun1 Core strength and flexibility are how you don't need high speed airflow to support you. There's a reason why racers train on bicycles to build core strength and flexibility with cardiovascular health... It's a popular misconception that motorcycle riders have little physical work to do. The reality is that racers are elite athletes.
@markjfox8662 ай бұрын
Just needs gd full exhaust system Less weight more power
@FatherOBlivion2 ай бұрын
Great review, thanks! Would be nice if Honda (and other makes) would create a "Euro" spec and a "rest of the world" spec. No reason everyone else needs to suffer the onerous Euro 5+ regs. I know that's unlikely, as it's easier and cheaper to design for the most restrictive market then sell that everywhere, but seriously. This is getting ridiculous. To my European brothers and sisters: please vote differently! Tell the bureaucrats in Brussels they've gone too far!
@lonpfrbАй бұрын
Honda make race kits to overcome stupid regulations....
@yamiamatsu5362 ай бұрын
My Cbr 600 RR 2023, poor material quality, bike stand 'shit ass , less than a year use.