2024 Tacoma Limited Towing Test

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Күн бұрын

We finally had the chance to test the new Toyota Tacoma with the 2.4-liter turbo 4-cylinder. In this video we climbed 1,700 feet in a few miles. Compared to the previous generations, the 4th gen is actually able to comfortably tow something larger than a single axle trailer.
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@fishbike2356
@fishbike2356 10 ай бұрын
Towing video, automatic thumbs up! Love all the vids.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! I should be getting an off-road video up soon and the towing and off-road videos of the new Tundra TRD pro as well.
@jamesveltman8634
@jamesveltman8634 10 ай бұрын
Good vid, thoroughly enjoyed the tour and tow demonstration..few questions…does that Tacoma have break assist with the camper…does it have the 360 top view camera display..or do you need a higher package like the Pro or TrailHunter to get those things?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes, it has a built in trailer brake controller and yes it has the 360 camera system.
@roberthance1187
@roberthance1187 10 ай бұрын
Quite happy with how my 2021 V6 Taco tows (doesn't even notice a fully loaded and gassed 17ft aluminum boat on single axle trailer) can't imagine being convinced to switch to a turbo 4Cyl for towing purposes. I suppose if I had a bigger boat, I'd be looking to step up on tow vehicle but at that point I wouldn't be looking at Tacomas anymore. I suppose it's more appealing if you are already in a 4cyl Tacoma looking to step up, but if you have a 3rd gen V6, I think it's a no brainer to stay with it
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
The torque curve in the turbo 4 is way better than the V6. More torque and at much lower RPM. As for reliability...hard to tell at this point.
@roberthance1187
@roberthance1187 10 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventures Yeah I agree the lower end with the turbo is something to consider. That said, my V6 can walk my boat off the ramp with almost no pedal input in low rpms. My intuition tells me the V6 can withstand a load better despite the torque. That said, to each their own when it comes to needs and taste. I love the trucks regardless and love some of the new options.
@billw8476
@billw8476 10 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventures not really hard to tell. you are asking the 4 banger to do the work of the v6....reliability and durability will suffer........it's a no brainer.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
@@billw8476 I do want to say I agree with you. A more simple design with less internal pressure will usually last longer. But if only life were that simple. If an N/A V6 block is built to normal standards and a boosted 4-cylinder is built very strong, the 4 cylinder could easily outlast the V6. There are lots of factors to an engine's performance and disability. Usually lower rpms will last longer, so the 3rd Gen, V6 which doesn't have any power until high in the RPM range, might have more wear than the turbo 4 because the power comes on at half the rpm.
@noxnyc23
@noxnyc23 7 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventuresthey can’t comprehend that these 4 banger has beefier internals. Which means it’s a v6 output but better in torque and mpg.. instant power not like that laggy v6.. and bfore you trolls attack me I still own a 20sr54x4. But yeah these 4th gen is just better.. reliability we shall see but like I said beefier internals proper cooling for turbo to me sounds like a success.. 👍🏼. Loving my 4th gen taco sport..
@giolats8179
@giolats8179 10 ай бұрын
At last a new EA review! It would be interesting in those towing tests if you stop and try to move on a steep section. The only potential problem with the small turbos compared to na V6/V8 can become apparent at low rpm. Great review as always, besides off-road test have you made a 0-60 as well?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
A friend is doing the on road and overview videos. We've both been having Go Pro problems, but I think he still managed to get one 0-60 run. Good idea for the towing test. I actually know of a very steep paved hill I could test that on. As always thanks for the support!!
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 10 ай бұрын
Doesn't sound like it was struggling! Nice.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Compared to the awful 3rd Gen this thing is a dream!
@sammyjammy6647
@sammyjammy6647 10 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventures you mention that the ride is stiffer when it’s not towing anything, but doesn’t it have that adaptive suspension and you can choose comfort mode?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
The AVS doesn't seem to change the feel that much at all. I believe it only adjusts the shocks, and I didn't notice much in my off-road or towing tests.
@billw8476
@billw8476 10 ай бұрын
the gas gauge was suffering
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
@@billw8476 it really was!
@blakeberlin6295
@blakeberlin6295 Ай бұрын
I tow light (4000 lbs) camper with my 3rd gen. For towing only my view of the differences of the 4th gen vs 3rd: Transmission: big improvement. Differential gearing: significant improvement Suspension: Wash, although I prefer leaf Technology: slight improvement by additional tech Power: Significant improvement. Regarding WHERE the power hits: Huge improvement Reliability: To be determined, but can't be better. Payload: no change I'm considering a better midsized truck, and towing is a necessity. Full size is a no go. The biggest weakness, imo, for the Tacoma is payload. Rhe 2nd biggest is Transmission/gearing. Power is the least important area that needed to be addressed. I think the Tacoma is a bad choice for most people who tow. After you add tongue weight and two medium sized passengers, most folks have fully exhausted their payload capacity, and no modifications can fix that. Other choices will be as bad as the Tacoma, but I'm really down to two candidates: Ford Ranger and the GM variants.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! The 3rd Gen certainly can tow to its rating, but in my experience it just doesn't do as well as the other midsize trucks with that task. The 4th gen is a completely different story. I really like the new Colorado. I haven't driven a Ranger in quite some time, but it would probably be comparable.
@beexiong2995
@beexiong2995 10 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't show the transmission temp. TFL showed theirs and it got really hot towing a steep dirt road. Its in the menu
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
I have some pictures of it, it was normal the whole time. They may have been going slow enough that the torque converter wasn't locked, that heats up the trans real quick. On this road that isn't a problem.
@beexiong2995
@beexiong2995 10 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventures good to know. All the doubters are quick to point that TFL overheated the transmission but it technically did not
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 10 ай бұрын
I like coil spring suspension!
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
I think people are more widely accepting of coils now, but I've preferred them for a long time on most solid axles. Thanks for watching!
@protocolsev
@protocolsev 10 ай бұрын
Leaf springs on the 3rd gen are cheap and make it feel like a cheap truck. Glad they finally switched.
@deantrainr
@deantrainr Ай бұрын
I recon I’ve got a rare GOLDEN 3rd gen Tacoma because I have zero problems towing based on the max tow capacity of my truck.😳 My only complaint with the 2GR-FKS V6 engine is the bad gas mileage with that power plant. I’m assuming, based on all the data and reviews, that the fourth gen engine “ain’t” any better with the overall MPG.🤷‍♂️🤔
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures Ай бұрын
Turbo engines are much better than they used to be, but they still typically use just as much or more fuel when towing. When the 1st Ecoboost came out I was quite a bit worse than the V8 on fuel mileage when towing. The 3rd Gen can certainly tow to its rating, it just doesn't do it as well as the other midsize trucks. At least in my experience. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@raymondkassay3610
@raymondkassay3610 9 ай бұрын
Good video. Something for people to consider who are not a fan of coil springs in the rear. Add air bags. It's very simple with coil springs compared to putting airbags on my tundra with leaf springs. My buddy put them on his ram eliminates squat same as my tundra.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Are bags are usually pretty easy to add to leaf springs as well.
@raymondkassay3610
@raymondkassay3610 9 ай бұрын
Yes fairly easy, Firestone rite ride are the easiest, had load lifter and wasn't as easy. Had to cut the rubber bump stop off but for the most part straightforwardon my tundra. Coil springs are the easiest, it's just a rubber bladder you put inside the coil. Takes less than 10 minutes to put in and 10 to take out if needed.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Oh nice! I've never installed them inside a coil before and just assumed you'd have to pull the coil out. Didn't realize you can just slide them inside without disassembly. Thanks for sharing!
@rushdaniel99
@rushdaniel99 10 ай бұрын
Still wishing for a v6 option
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Maybe, but definitely not the anemic 3rd Gen V6
@thepdc6220
@thepdc6220 10 ай бұрын
Then get a tundra
@USNRetired-r6i
@USNRetired-r6i 10 ай бұрын
Go Nissan Frontier a real truck.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
The Frontier was my favorite midsize for a long time. The new Colorado is now my vote for best all around midsize truck.
@pocillipora
@pocillipora 10 ай бұрын
Why is the tailpipe so far back?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
It does look a little funny.
@alecfuhrman4083
@alecfuhrman4083 10 ай бұрын
Where is this ? Beautiful!
@nightgoon_0_0
@nightgoon_0_0 10 ай бұрын
looks like Utah or Colorado
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Yup, Utah
@K9River
@K9River 4 ай бұрын
I tow a 3500 pound v-nose. It tows great. The engine/transmission combo is amazing. It's at 3800-3900 rpm on every hill I've been on in Western Montana. The truck feels it for sure, but it's not screaming or struggling at all. The pickup drives extremely well, but operating many other things is miserable. Lots of electrical gremlins, too. Dealership won't install a brake controller. The paint chipping off is "normal". The warranty is pretty much non-existent. I have grown to hate Toyota. I pray the truck lasts mechanically because fixing it will come probably come out of my pocket- not the warranty.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 4 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for sharing your experience!
@scottb2571
@scottb2571 17 күн бұрын
Why no distribution hitch?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 17 күн бұрын
@@scottb2571 I talk about it at some point in most of my towing videos, not sure if I covered it in this one. For my testing I use a regular ball mount as it will show the tow vehicle's strengths and weaknesses much better than using a WD hitch. The WD hitches I have access too also include sway control and make a huge difference in stability when towing. I always recommend using an Equal-i-zer brand hitch when towing a trailer with a high center of gravity, regardless of weight.
@Kevin-d3z
@Kevin-d3z Ай бұрын
Lots of houses in the mountains there.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 23 күн бұрын
Yeah, there were a couple dirt roads in this area before the houses, but the 4 have highway exists solely to support the horses on the hill.
@carloscantoran209
@carloscantoran209 5 ай бұрын
My wife’s vehicle has those blind spot sensors and sometimes it beeps when’s there no vehicle but I stick to traditional driving, I check my blind spots.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 5 ай бұрын
It's a tough decision. I agree that it's much better to learn to drive without all the additional aids, because just like you said, they are electronic and often have issues. That being said, I appreciate a good backup camera, and feel it does provide a significant safety benefit, especially in protecting small children. For the record my daily driver has no safety features apart from seatbelts and airbags. Not even ABS.
@austinkleyn1816
@austinkleyn1816 9 ай бұрын
Nice video. Can it use the active lane centering on the highway while towing? Not just the warning tugs. Maybe a lighter load like 2500lbs?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 9 ай бұрын
I didn't test that on the Tacoma, but yes that works on the Tundra. I didn't believe trailer size or weight matters, but I could be wrong.
@KrazyKajun602
@KrazyKajun602 10 ай бұрын
Maybe someone can answer me a tech question. The lImited comes AWD by standard configuration. Does it also have a ADD like on other models that went out on TFL's channel?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Interesting question with it being full time 4wd I don't know if it would have the ADD. For whatever reason, this limited I tested didn't have the full time 4WD system.
@mc9304
@mc9304 9 ай бұрын
Apparently that’s only on the limited hybrid version. I was hoping it was optional for those who live in snow and ice country. Part time 4wd is painful where I live
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 9 ай бұрын
The 1st Gen Sequoia had the best transfer case. 2wd, 4wd full time with Torsen limited slip, 4wd part time (locked center diff), and 4wd low with or without the center diff locked.
@tboe-cr8pz
@tboe-cr8pz 10 ай бұрын
Just a matter of time before this tiny 4 banger goes out. Doesn’t belong in this size of truck
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
I don't know, if it's built like a turbo diesel engine, then it will be fine.
@danny79538
@danny79538 10 ай бұрын
You dont think Toyota engineers already tested this engine rigorously? These 4 bangers now aint the 4 bangers of old.
@Peerbabakpk
@Peerbabakpk 10 ай бұрын
This test has proven Tacoma is capable of doing everything ❤ Good video
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support, wait for the off-road video I should be posting in a week or so. Even without all the gadgets like Crawl Control and a rear locker it does pretty well in the dirt.
@chrisb9478
@chrisb9478 10 ай бұрын
Someone said the 4wd Tacomas don’t have the dumb start/stop, but the Limited does? I’d have to find a defeat device. Man I wish Toyota would offer a 1794 Tacoma with brown saddle leather seats & black wheels & trim. But with the Limited’s Landcruiser fulltime 4wd.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
I do like that transfer case. They should offer it as a 2wd, 4wd full time (with a Torsen style diff and e locker), and 4wd part time like the 1st and 2nd Gen Sequoia had. That was my favorite transfer case, but they got rid of it for the 3rd Gen.
@robg1413
@robg1413 9 ай бұрын
I missed the size and weight of the camper
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 9 ай бұрын
The model is a 22 RB I believe, which should mean 22' but it's more comparable to a 20'. For this test it was pretty empty and weighed in around 4650 with a 480 lb tongue weight. Those weights were measured on actual scales a while ago, but it should be close.
@jdmkun
@jdmkun 8 ай бұрын
Looks like you are in Utah. Have you taken it up some of the canyons? (Big/Little Cottonwood)
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 8 ай бұрын
Nope, this was a media truck I only had for a week. Those low speed, steep, and windy canyons are the hardest on a tow vehicle, specifically the transmission. If the torque converter can't stay locked the transmission will heat up. I have overheated others in the past, but that was a pretty intense drive. Guardsman Pass from Midway with a 17k bumper pull trailer behind a Duramax with the 6-speed Allison.
@deanmay338
@deanmay338 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video. Tow capacity is fine; payload is disappointing. I am seeing Colorado/Canyons and Rangers with payloads from 1475 to 1625 lbs and most Ridgelines have payloads between 1480 and 1580. 1200 lbs or less in Tacomas will not work for me. Most trucks will run out of payload due to tongue weight, cargo, passengers, pets, etc. before running out of tow capacity.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
It depends on how you outfit them. This one was the limited and yes the payload isn't great, but I've seen half tons with lower payload.
@bwhit707
@bwhit707 10 ай бұрын
My 2021 double cab SR 4x4 with pro package is 990. 1200 will do fine for me; what gets me wondering is that my dealer has a 24 double cab 4x2 that says 1200 also? So the 4x2 and 4x4 are the same? Maybe they tune the rear coils different in the 4x4s ?Nevertheless, I was happy that the 4x4 is 1200 , im at 1000 ish when towing camper so this is a good margin.
@deanmay338
@deanmay338 10 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventures yup, I have seen $72,000 2023 Ram 1500 Limiteds with under 1,000 lbs of payload. Unbelievable. I am a Toyota and Tacoma fan, but not brand loyal. But, I am seeing too many Tacomas, including SR5s with only 1,200 lbs of payload. I am seeing other manufacturers, including GM, Ford, Honda, and properly configured Gladiators with payloads much better than Toyota and Nissan in their midsize trucks. I like both the Tacoma and the Frontier, but if towing a camper and hauling camping gear are important, then the Tacoma appears to struggle in terms of payload. I will continue to research, but I am not seeing SR5s with 1500 lbs of payload. TRD Sports/Off-Roads will have no more payload and potentially less than the SR5s. I would love to see more payload from the Tacoma than I am seeing.
@deanmay338
@deanmay338 10 ай бұрын
@@bwhit707 we tow a small camper (2900 lbs), but has about 400 lbs of tongue weight. My wife and I weigh almost 360 lbs. My hitch weighs about 50 lbs. I will need a topper/shell for the midsize truck. I am guessing about 250 lbs. My dog weighs 15 lbs. That is 1,075 lbs. Assuming 1,200 lbs of payload, I only have 125 lbs left for camping gear, bicycles, etc. I would love a Toyota Tacoma, but I am still looking for one that has 4WD and has approximately 1,500 lbs of payload. Since I want a topper/sheell, I need more payload. I can find it with the GM twins, Ford, Jeep Gladiator (properly configured), and the Honda, but I can’t find 1500 lbs of payload in a 4WD Tacoma or Frontier.
@Nuvinci88
@Nuvinci88 7 ай бұрын
what is the trailer weight that your towing? thanks
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 7 ай бұрын
I think this was without the batteries in, so around 4700 with about 480 tongue weight.
@ToyotaJim1
@ToyotaJim1 6 ай бұрын
What was dry weight on this trailer?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 6 ай бұрын
As tested it's about 4750(without batteries)-4850(with batteries) lbs without water. Never weighed it dry and the stickers for GVWR and Payload are faded and illegible.
@spacecoastz4026
@spacecoastz4026 7 ай бұрын
The real question is how long will the engine last?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 7 ай бұрын
Time will tell, high boost diesels seem to be lasting fine, and nothing says a gas engine can't be built just as robust.
@MuscleAmerican
@MuscleAmerican 9 ай бұрын
Cool vid, are you in Utah? We should colab!
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 9 ай бұрын
I'm open to it, send me an email!
@Toyota0000
@Toyota0000 10 ай бұрын
Timpanogos Highway, we must live relatively close. Nice color
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Yup, thanks for watching!
@albertolizarraga1541
@albertolizarraga1541 9 ай бұрын
Will this truck do good towing a 4650 pound toyhauler?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Weight wise that isn't a problem, however the size may be. Look into Frontal area and see what Toyota recommends for the Tacoma. I know the Frontier was like 55 square feet. The trailer in this video is like 80 square feet.
@cnj1012000
@cnj1012000 10 ай бұрын
what was the trailer weight
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
I thought it was a little heavier, but just looked it up yesterday, 4,650 lbs.
@marklihsu
@marklihsu 10 ай бұрын
Like the tablet glued onto the dash infotainment screen, towing is an obvious after thought. It’s like during QC someone finally asked what about towing and they said oh yeah throw a line on the screen. Err ok the camera is offset and we already molded all these handles… Ok how much can it tow? Good question I think 6,500 lbs? We are off by 1,000 lbs compared to the class leader… we aren’t going to try and match competitors? Nope it’s only a thousand pounds. So we can’t tow as much and the payload is the lowest… Ok pass just get it out the door people will buy it because we stamped Tacoma on it. How many years did they spend developing this truck and this the best they could offer? And it’s brushed off as a small bug that needs to be worked thru just liked the ADD eh😂
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
There are definitely issues with lots of trucks payload capacities. I don't think the 6,400 lb towing capacity is that bad for a midsize truck.
@CarsTechWood
@CarsTechWood 10 ай бұрын
Dang I get 10-11 mpg with my V8 Titan towing my 30ft travel trailer.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
This trailer is awful for fuel mileage because of the wind resistance. I've gotten 2-3 mpg better with a 12k pound fifth wheel compared to this trailer. Also N/A V8s are actually quite good at towing due to the higher thermal efficiency. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@aknadiri2520
@aknadiri2520 5 ай бұрын
Keep towing and will see how much faster that turbo 4cyl wears out
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 5 ай бұрын
Depends on the engine design as a whole. Diesels have high boost turbos and are quite reliable in general. As long as Toyota designed it well, it should be fine.
@bwhit707
@bwhit707 10 ай бұрын
Is that truck a 4x4? and what does the payload sticker say?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Yes, it's 4x4 and I thought I covered payload in the video, but maybe not. It was 1200 lbs. Thanks for watching!
@bwhit707
@bwhit707 10 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventures Great , thanks for replying back , I will be towing a 3800lb travel trailer with mine. Im not getting the brake controller with my trim level and will keep my Redarc LIberty IBC off my 21. Im hoping someone finds where the harness plug is hidden in the 24?
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Sorry, can't help you there.
@marklihsu
@marklihsu 10 ай бұрын
1200 lbs 😂🤡
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
@@marklihsu what payload are you expecting from a midsize truck? I've driven many half ton trucks with the same or lower payload.
@lc7192
@lc7192 6 ай бұрын
The hybrid version(I-Force Max) has a lower tow rating and a lower load rating than the I-Force version of the standard non hybrid motor. The hybrid battery, motor and other hybrid parts weigh a lot. That plus the 1 mpg advantage of the hybrid system is why I’m getting the regular I-Force non hybrid motor in my 2024 TRD Off Road Premium in the Blue Crush Metallic color. The hybrid version just isn’t worth the extra price given all the facts and figures. I could care less that it’s rated at 0-60 just one second less time than the standard engine. My truck is in production and I can’t wait to trade in my 2021 TRD Sport.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 6 ай бұрын
In the Tundra, the hybrid drives so much better. The non hybrid has a lot of turbo lag below 2,000 rpm, but picks up well after that. The hybrid fills this in and makes the turbo lag unnoticeable. However the Tacoma is different, I barely noticed the turbo lag and it certainly wasn't enough to bother me at all, even when towing. I think I agree with you on not needing the hybrid for the Tacoma. Per Toyotas website the I-Force Max weighs about 400 lbs more, but has a 495 lb higher GVWR. That means the hybrid has a higher payload by 95 lbs. It does show a 6,000 lb max tow rating for the hybrid compared to 6,300 for the non-hybrid. Max tongue weight is the same for both at 640 lbs.
@westcoastplinkin6559
@westcoastplinkin6559 10 ай бұрын
Who buys a Tacoma to tow though? I am willing to bet a very small minority of people are interested in a Tacoma to tow. I would be willing to bet more people buy a Toyota Tacoma to have a reliable utility vehicle rather than to tow.
@utjeeper6640
@utjeeper6640 10 ай бұрын
You’re right that they do not buy it to tow, but we still need it to tow. I have a boat to pull but don’t want an F350 dually as my daily driver even though it would tow a million times better than a Tacoma.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Plenty of people tow with Tacomas. Sure it's not a daily occurrence for most, but still something to consider. Thanks for watching!
@westcoastplinkin6559
@westcoastplinkin6559 10 ай бұрын
@@utjeeper6640 The most i've needed to tow with a Tacoma is a landscape trailer for my dad's small business. I don't need to tow an RV for recreational purpose. I would rather Toyota focus on making single cabs with long beds again as they're the most useful for work. I think more people would find a single cab long bed Tacoma more useful than a double cab with a short bed that tows.
@BrokenMachine85
@BrokenMachine85 10 ай бұрын
I regularly tow a 3500 pound RV with my Tacoma. It’s why I bought the truck.
@westcoastplinkin6559
@westcoastplinkin6559 10 ай бұрын
@@BrokenMachine85 Yea but we use ours for work. We don't need to tow an RV.
@xiaxiong9197
@xiaxiong9197 10 ай бұрын
If you need a heavy towing get full size truck.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Yup, depends on what you're towing and how heavy. The weight of this trailer isn't a problem for the Tacoma, but the size is.
@jml9550
@jml9550 10 ай бұрын
No crap. Some of us don’t want a big truck. A midsize is easier to maneuver and park. Takes up less space in the garage………
@wilyceyote
@wilyceyote 10 ай бұрын
I’d like a new Tacoma but i’m not confident that the four banger turbo will not last long term even if it’s Toyota it only last 80 to 120,000 without major maintenance long-term but we will see how long it lasts before they start breaking down left and right because the turbo bearings will fall apart lol
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Diesel turbos are known to be very reliable for long term use.
@wilyceyote
@wilyceyote 10 ай бұрын
i’m talking about the four-cylinder turbo gas engines because diesels turbos last longer
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
These turbo 4 cylinder gas engines in trucks are built with a lot of diesel qualities. They aren't like import 4 cylinders that rev to the moon. I'm saying they will last, however Chevy has had pretty good success with the 2.7-liter 4 cylinder turbo.
@wilyceyote
@wilyceyote 10 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventures We’ll just have to wait and see one to two years see how the dependability is on the engine and transmission tacoma Real world data but i’m not convinced on new tacoma yet
@grantfawson9675
@grantfawson9675 8 ай бұрын
1. That's because it's the size of the old tundra. It's not as much engine power as it is springs and dimensions. 2. Good luck having the engine last when all your power is from the turbo. Yikes
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting! 1. Tow vehicle wheelbase, weight, and track width are all very important factors when towing. The heavier, longer and/or wider the tow vehicle, the more stable it will be under load. 2.Diesels have been doing it for decades, if the engine is built right it won't be a problem
@grantfawson9675
@grantfawson9675 8 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventures No they haven't. All the torque comes from the engine itself. The turbo helps with HP so it's not a tractor. All torque comes from the turbo. Yes, it will cause big problems. No, an engine built right does not mean it will tow great if all the above factors aren't in place to handle the weight. So wrong, it's not towing well because of the engine unless ALL you are referring to is power. If that's the case you don't know what you're talking about. Which in today's world is probably the case.
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 8 ай бұрын
I've thought a bit about how to answer this. When someone is this strong in their convictions I usually don't respond. However, I think we have a very clear example in the Detroit 6.5L GM and AM General used 2-3 decades ago. It was offered as both N/A and turbo. The NA version had 160 HP @3,600 RPM and 290 ft lbs of torque @1,700 RPM (I thought the L57 N/A version had 190 HP and 340-360 torque but can't find that info at the moment). The turbo charged L65 version had 215 HP @ 3,200 RPM and 440 ft lbs at 1,800 rpm. If you can find a dyno chart, the L65 produced more torque from 1,000 rpm to redline. So the turbo adds significant torque, it's not all the base engine, even for 30 year old diesels. That's all with old turbo technology. Things have advanced significantly. Dual volute, variable geometry, twin scroll, etc all have added benefits for better low end torque while maintaining high rpm power. Diesel engines are built for high compression ratios and the newer ones have high boost as well. To handle that the blocks have to be very stiff. A gasoline engine can be designed to be just as robust, or as robust as needed, to handle the increased pressures from the turbo. You are correct, there are many more factors than just an engine for towing. The transmission, drivetrain, suspension, and chassis are all very important as well as the items I mentioned previously. The previous generation Tacoma with the V6 was a dog at towing when compared to its N/A competition. The new turbo engines have so much more torque and at lower RPM. This greatly improves the towing experience. Take it for what it's worth, but my experience is nearly a decade as an engineer making towing products. I also have 7 years in the automotive journalism industry. I've towed a very large variety of trailers with an even larger variety of vehicles. Much of this was also done with very in depth information about the tow vehicle and trailer for gathering days. I've towed conventional (bumper pull) with and without a weight distribution hitch, gooseneck, and 5th wheel. There are loads of people out there with more mileage than me, I won't contest that, but mileage doesn't equate to broad experience when doing everything the same every time. I'm not saying I'm correct, I just want to share my experience so you can weigh it in forming your opinion.
@grantfawson9675
@grantfawson9675 8 ай бұрын
@@EngineAdventures you having to go back 3 decades negates your point. I'm not talking about trucks for 30 years ago. I'm talking about this one. and the reason it feels good towing is not because of the engine. the 4.0 had endless power. It's due to length and width... because it's huge.
@johnnyfreeman1018
@johnnyfreeman1018 10 ай бұрын
Not with a 4 cycl......😆
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Why not? 4 cylinder diesels have been used in medium and heavy industries for quite a while.
@dougmead7669
@dougmead7669 8 ай бұрын
Don't have time to show how the back up assist works, I don't have time to watch the rest of this cheesy video. Maybe someone is interested in that feature!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@EngineAdventures
@EngineAdventures 8 ай бұрын
Watch my towing video on the 3rd gen Tundra. I test it in that video, it works ok, but not as well as a human. I only have the vehicles for a short time and sometimes I'm just squeezing them in between everything else going on. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts, I'll make that a priority in future videos.
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