2024 Tesla Model 3: Top Efficiency Rated by Green NCAP

[@LudicrousFeed]

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[@Gene-je2zq]

Just completed 1yr in my Seal (same Cd of 0.219 as the M3-highland). 15000 km of mixed driving, mostly commuting to/from work which is ~60 km per day of 60/80/90 zones. Included in that 15000km are a few trips on 100/110km highways and also done a trip to Canberra and return. If you believe the 'lifetime' efficiency I'm sitting at exactly 15.0 kWh/100km. That's a comfortable 500km from the 80+ kWh battery. I'm pretty happy with that.

[@LudicrousFeed]

That’s quite impressive 👏

[@paulsimpson8990]

@@Gene-je2zq that’s pretty good for a BYD tbh

[@briannewman6216]

Highway efficiency is what really counts. City driving efficiency is less important.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Often offset by my bladder efficiency 😅

[@Petlaw99]

There is all this chatter about 800 V charging etc, but when most non-Tesla chargers in regional areas are 50 kW or 75 kW then how long you sit and wait will be completely dependent on how much energy you use. A Kia EV9 with its huge battery might be parked up for over an hour when the model 3 is off to the next stop in 20 min.

[@dyemanoz]

So highway efficiency is more important even if most of your driving is urban?

[@moestrei]

Efficiency is King when you can carry only a relatively small amount of energy with you. It also puts fast charging into perspective because you effectively charge range and an efficient car simply does not need a high peak charge rate (which 90% of DCFC in Australia cannot support anyway). Teslas are form follows function vehicles and currently the only EV made in non Asian countries which actually makes a profit per sold car. Everybody else is still learning.....

[@LudicrousFeed]

These small gains matter when resources are scarce … for now

[@moestrei]

@LudicrousFeed Love your comments 😃

[@ianburnett4605]

Model 3 is the perfect ev. I wish I could post a picture here of my energy app readings.

[@LudicrousFeed]

I won’t argue it’s a very efficient EV

[@paulsimpson8990]

Is it better than mine? 123Whr/km after 89,000km?

[@moestrei]

@@paulsimpson8990 You can hypermile anything. I had 11kWh/100km once with a 380kW powered Tesla Model S which otherwise returns 18kWh/100km.

[@JohnoEx]

What you say at 7:45 "Putting aside the founder of Tesla" is incorrect. Elon is not the founder of Tesla, he is a majority investor and CEO.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Thanks for the correction / clarification

[@dyemanoz]

Who can drive 1000 kms without a comfort stop?

[@LudicrousFeed]

Certainly not me

[@GDM22]

It is relevant to talk about Sentry mode as it does use battery, but it is worth noting that no car I am aware of has a similiar system and its use is optional providing a feature you deem valuable otherwise you wouldn't use it. Outside of cabin temparature regulation when parked and Sentry mode almost no power is used when parked or stored on a Tesla nowadays. I can live with a little extra power usage, as my power comes from my panels largely and I have just paid to repair panel scuffing from a carpark incident when sentry mode was switched off.

[@LudicrousFeed]

No doubt Sentry Mode is super useful when parked in public areas 👍

[@antkelly2165]

Only 4 year warranty on the car 8 years on the battery..seems substandard.

[@GDM22]

@@antkelly2165 Yes, you need to factor in warranties and the likelihood of needing it from year 5 to 8.

[@paulsimpson8990]

I turn mine off once other cars have parked alongside

[@dyemanoz]

@@GDM22 The battery and drive train are warranted for 8 years and 160k kms (standard range) or 192k kms (long range). Also keep in mind that Tesla has no mandatory servicing (unlike most other vehicles) so overall cost of ownership is very low to start with.

[@OTPulse]

My ideal EV would be: About 500km range 150kw+ charging. Wiper (left) and indicator (right) stalks on the correct sides. Sedan or Wagon. Passenger side charging port for future curbside EV charging, i don't want long dangerous high voltage cables wrapping around my car. As long as it looks decent enough it doesn't bother me, can do without panoramic roofs and gimmicks like FSD, even most of the safety stuff I'd rather not have, gimme a bare-bones EV for $35k

[@LudicrousFeed]

I’d say that day is coming soon …

[@GDM22]

@@OTPulse Interesting you say indicators and wipers on the correct side, in the UK the journalists say the opposite. I think the indicators on the right mainly matter for a manual, otherwise you just get used too it.

[@OTPulse]

@GDM22 In the UK you changed them to the wrong side to save manufacturing costs selling to Europe. All my pre-1980s British cars I've had over the years were indicator door side (auto or manual). Rovers, Jaguars, Triumphs, MG, even a TVR I helped with had indicators on the right. I had two import Rover 3500s the 84 model had it on the right the 86 model had it on the left.

[@dyemanoz]

@@GDM22 My previous three cars - Mazda, Citroen, Tesla all had differing stalk-handedness. I could never get used to the changes. Then I got a new Tesla, which fixed the issue by getting rid of the stalks altogether 🙂.

[@howardcairns78]

Tom I would consider a Tesla if they were prepared to provide a Head up display so I could concentrate on the road ahead. Until they do I won't be buying one.

[@LudicrousFeed]

Having driven my BYD Seal with HUD, it’s nice not having to look to the side or down for the speedo!

[@blairmillward8408]

It really only takes a day or two to get used to. Old Toyotas like the Yaris had the "green screen" that wasn't directly in front of you - people never complained it didn't have a HUD... You should actually take one for a test drive and see for yourself

[@Chris-be1fo]

I’ve been driving for 53 years. I never crashed because I didn’t have a head up display.

[@mixalis6168]

Puts off a lot of people, a few i know went BYD Seal, instead of M3 they all hated no having a screen upfront ! Simple fix for Tesla, would cost peanuts too.. I added a screen to my last M3, wont buy a car without one now !

[@paulsimpson8990]

And you’re missing out because you think you need a HUD. After owning 20 cars, including bmws with the incredible instrumentation, you don’t need it in the Tesla. Just buy one.

[@TassieEV]

I'll have to agree to disagree on the results, the Model 3 is efficient but not THE most efficient EV. I have owned THE most efficient EV in the...........World. It may no longer be for sale but it beats the Model 3 and was proven recently in the AEVA Expo Efficiency Challenge up a mountain the new owner of my classic 28kWh Ioniq was the winner by a LONG way. The Model 3 is efficient but unfortunately not the leader at least not until the last Ioniq 28kWh is no longer on the road.

[@LudicrousFeed]

@@TassieEV Ah yes the original Ioniq, that was rather efficient

[@GDM22]

If you dropped nearly 2/3 of the battery weight off a Tesla (75kwh RWD NMC), lets see how they compare, but for most that is too big a price to pay. I would also like to see, efficiency at highway speeds, and around the city and not just up a hill where weight becomes a bigger factor. I doubt it would beat the Tesla at speeds 80kmh and above.

[@moestrei]

It was the first ev I drove as a hired car in Germany. Efficiency on the Autoban wasn't that great and we got only 160km of range out of it. I then bought a Tesla S (still quite efficient and very highway capable and extremely long lasting) and my wife an Ioniq FL which is a bit of a mixed bag. She went (I made her) for a test ride in a Highland and even she hates Elon she came back with "That car is on another level".

[@moestrei]

Efficiency is King when you can carry only a relatively small amount of energy with you. It also puts fast charging into perspective because you effectively charge range and an efficient car simply does nor need a high peak charge rate (which 90% of DCFC innAustralia cannot support anyway). Teslas are form follows function vehicles and currently the only EV made in non Asian countries which actually makes a profit per sold car. Everybody else is still learning.....

[@TassieEV]

@@GDM22 Look up Bjorn Nyland(TeslaBjorn) who has tested the 28kWh multiple times in multiple weather and done his 1000km challenge multiple times with the Ioniq. I've also owned it and can fully attest to it's efficiency and being the efficiency king.