2025 Honda Civic Si - 6-Speed Daily Driver City Commute

[@BlackWolfMagic95]

love to see kindness what a nice lady to check on you 😅

[@Khalilpato]

When did that happen

[@theredsalmon612]

that was really sweet of her

[@DMN3901]

@@Khalilpato 5:00

[@Khalilpato]

@@DMN3901 Thank you Sir

[@mikedaleiden7725]

Yes, very sweet! Good to see parts of the USA are still like that. If that was here in Florida, she would be there to distract you while someone is sneaking up from behind.

[@mrxnoname93]

I clicked without checking the profile name and thought tedward sounded different in this one lol

[@DagMaster22900]

Southern hospitality, love it!!

[@LiLgPnoy15]

That lady checked on you to see if you needed help, that is awesome!

[@elliot3751]

5:08 Southern Hospitality. Truly a perk of the South. Tennessee especially. Been to Tennessee many times and I’ve been helped tremendously. Had a car break down a while back. The man that pulled over was a tow truck driver. He said “Not much of a mechanic myself but if you want I can take you to the nearest shop” and he did just that. Loaded my car up and took me to the nearest Honda Service Center (I drove a Civic at the time ironically). No charge. Was very grateful for his help! And no, to those folk who will try to spin this story around. I am not a Tennessee Native nor do I live there.

[@SamLed1111]

I visited my friend in Encinitas this past week who just picked up a brand new SI (in grey). Fantastic car. He let me drive it from Encinitas to downtown SD. 201hp is perfect for the SI. Plenty of passing power. The gearbox is wonderful. It is alot of fun for not alot of cash. It is also very comfortable.

[@Ok_Mountain_8698]

Save the manuals!

[@abdullahakhtar9824]

Driving schools should offer manual transmission options which cost half of the automatic option

[@Sheltur_0311]

@@abdullahakhtar9824 why would they charge less for an option that is more work, and makes the cars in america cost more

[@abdullahakhtar9824]

@@Sheltur_0311 I learned to drive in another and automatic classes always costed two times more than manual classes

[@Sheltur_0311]

@@abdullahakhtar9824 yes but this is an american video, the manuals sold here are almost always locked behind a 2000-5000$ upcharge ie acrua a class or the brz

[@abdullahakhtar9824]

@@Sheltur_0311 on all of the websites it says that at least 1000 dollars are reduced if you choose the manual transmission when building a car

[@thimble288]

It's not a 90s Civic, but Honda definitely found its way back to making an affordable car genuinely desirable again.

[@mikedaleiden7725]

Just another 30-40 HP and maybe a DSG like option (like out of the last gen ILX) and that would put this Civic over the top. Doesn't need a ton more power, just enough to balance out the package and keep it ahead of everyday commuters and hybrids.

[@sbs-0055]

And build it on the hatchback platform

[@glorentzen]

​@sbs-0055 I wonder if they aren't offering this on the hatch platform so they will get more civic hybrid sales?

[@timothyhall4110]

@@glorentzenfeel like Honda would be more worried about cannibalizing type R sales

[@gamez1237]

They dont want to effect type r sales I guess

[@glorentzen]

@@gamez1237 that makes sense too

[@stevejr777]

The thing I don’t hear much from any KZbinr is that they removed the idiot light and put in a proper thermostat gauge.

[@Offensively-normal]

This generation of civic is second to none. It dominates it's class. In fact it's the baby brother that got better than it's sibling. It can and does compete with the likes of Camry. Especially now having a hybrid power plant. .Unfortunately it can also compete in price as well. With a option for almost everyone. I don't see anyone being disappointed with any 11 gen Civic.

[@EvanWeeks]

I adore my 2019 Civic Si. I've been pondering test driving a 2025, but I'm afraid my '19 would know and reject me afterwards. 🤣

[@buildmorefarms1007]

If they werent so underpowered.

[@RossomeSauce1]

Can confirm. I talked about buying a new car in front of my manual Fit, and it threw an input shaft bearing the same day. I swapped the transmission, and then I BOUGHT a new car, and it threw the input shaft bearing again!!

[@cars.withdave]

thanks for all of the footage on this new civic, I want one so bad and love these opinions of those like you who actually drive them how i would haha. I want one so bad and I cant wait until November! (my civic sport lease is up)

[@TTKChristo]

Based fellow Apple Maps user, we love to see it.

[@darielrodriguez8821]

i just got mine yesterday and its so fun it feels so luxurious and its the exact same as that one you show, first ever manual and im in love and tbh that auto rev match is a life saver being my first ever manual

[@twagn]

Luv the shift lights

[@SageComet0403]

This was literally shot in my neighborhood, you just drove my morning commute.

[@markhoward3803]

I like it! The interior is very nice and modern and the colors are great.

[@oppos727]

24:18 pro-tip: you can tap the 'back' button on the head unit to get rid of those pesky mode-change splash screens that do indeed linger too long by default

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

Honda is going to have to step their game up for the next gen (12th gen) Civic Si. They have rested on their laurels and stayed stagnant at the 200hp range since 2006 when the 8th gen Civic Si came out and only went to 205hp when the 10th gen came out only to downgrade -5hp for the 11th gen. Yes, the Si was never about big horsepower, but if the FK8 and FL5 Type R's never came to the our shores, then at least the Si should have been our high-performance top dog with 300hp or at least make a sedan version of the Type R that would've been for North America. There's only ever been two sedan Type R's from Honda (in Japan) that have ever existed: The Japanese-spec DB8 Honda Integra Type R sedan and the FD2 Honda Civic Type R sedan (based on the 8th gen Civic Si platform). Going into the 12th gen Civic platform very soon in the next couple of years, the 12th gen Civic Si needs about 235-240hp. The AP1 and AP2 S2000s pushed more hp than the Civic Si's ever had. 220-225lb-ft of tq would be more than generous, hence making the Civic Si the most powerful Civic ahead of the Civic Hybrid and behind the FL5 Civic Type R. The L15B7 (1.5T) has served its time and it's time to retire it. A 1.8T engine would be more suitable for the next gen Civic Si, or at least upgrade the liter displacement by .3L making the L15 become an L18A, L18B, or L18C codenamed engine as the 1.8T and give the next gen Civic Si the performance Si fans, Si owners, and potential new Si buyers are desperately wanting the next gen Civic Si to be.

[@Gotbread25]

I agree with this. I got the 2023 Civic si, its a fun car, I love it but they shouldve atleast gave it more power. Hopefully the 12th gens have more power and I hope they remove the auto start/stop feature and replace the electric e brake with a manual handbrake

[@asian_raisin]

My son has the 2019 Si with a K Tuner and all the bolt on mods. The tuned L15B and tiny turbo is easily 290-330hp so it's super fun to drive. My understanding is that the 2.0T from the TypeR and Accord fits perfectly as an upgrade without much fuss so that would be a logical option for more power and torque. Once my son blows up his 1.5 we may have to go the 2.0T route.

[@glennturk3379]

I’m beginning to think ppl don’t know how to get the most out of their cars and then ask n get more power that they can’t control or know what to do with. If you know what to do with it is plenty enough power. Want more? Buy the R

[@stefanluciani4607]

Re: the seats. I currently drive a 10th gen Si. Little bit different bolstering but similar. Prior to that I had a Focus ST with the leather Recaros. The Recaros looked so cool and were so aggressive, but could get a little bit uncomfortable anything longer than an hour in the car. But I got my Si and drove it 4400KM across Canada. Was a beast on mileage, (averaged over 50 mpg) and the seats were perfect for multiple 12 hour driving days. Love my Si

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Nice reveiw did the retuning of suspension have contribute to stiffer ride ?😊

[@blackpantherx4019]

Drove this si on Saturday red and I must say move it coming from Toyota owner for many years Honda doing the damn thing right here . Maybe my next car 😊

[@guitarrise4523]

I just upgraded to a Acura Integra Type S but I had a 10th gen civic SI for the last 5 years. After 65,000 miles it was a great companion. Fuel economy was great better than my new car lol 😂.

[@ddhsd]

Si is always a fun car I owned one back in the day. Fun when you are in your 20,30's now older this would not be my choice for daily driving. I passed on the 11th Gen when car shopping a year ago. I put it on my short list because of Tedwards Si. The manual was an absolute joy to use in test drive BUT sure while driving on a country road but I knew I was moving to Vegas and this would be a chore in crazy traffic. Plus the small trunks in a car now after having a hatch or small SUV is no longer appealing. My options at Costco are limted with a small car. So what did I choose? A Hybrid Niro😂 serves me well and love my 50 mpg (former Honda enthusiast have owned 5 including Si, one Accord, 3 civics including a mileage champ the 89 sedan made it to 385,000miles)

[@wwjoshdew]

I have a 23 forte gt manual and love it, but I wish I could have gotten the civic si. Mine has sunroof and heated seats, which the 25 si finally now has. Plus I have rear vents for my daughter and rear passengers. Plus I don’t hang auto start stop, and I get a good old fashioned manual e brake. I feel auto start stop (which I know I would get into a habit of turning it off every time I get in the car), and pressing a button to set an ebrake in a manual car feels like it would feel wrong. But honestly the radar cruise control and limited slip front diffs would probably make it all worth it. When I want to get down on it, that one wheel peel is really felt in my forte gt manual. Plus the last manual version of a car that’s no longer being made, feels unique. Lots of gt line fortes on the row. Way less GT’s, and less than a thousand manual versions of the GT out there, and I have one. Plus I got my 23 gt manual brand new for 24,000. No mark up, and well under 30k.

[@DMN3901]

Aegean Blue Metallic is also gone for 2025. That and Rallye Red are my fav's. The orange was cool too but that was axed for the 24's.

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

They should bring Boost Blue on to the Civic Si. It blew me away that Aegean Blue and the Orange got axed. Orange was cool. Aegean Blue is popular color for the Civic sedan/Si sedan.

[@JB11335]

37 here, find myself wanting one to remind myself of the highschool years...

[@Gbody_Klown]

Great cars my wife has the 23 sport. Got it brand new 0 miles now at 26k and a trip to Florida from Texas and a few trips across Texas only gripe is the crappy steering problem

[@joespittle1]

10:12 Could that SL get a bit closer to the back of that F150, really an unnecessarily large gap there

[@EggSk8]

😭

[@predatoria_aquatica]

I had a 9th gen si 120K miles.. never changed stock clutch until I traded it in.. the reliability is great on these if u don’t bang the gears all the time.. I drive a tuned wrx tr now because I needed all wheel for winter.. would have gotten the type r if it was awd

[@MTB84km]

I envy you, you get Si, we only get RS. What nice front bucket seats!

[@Betancourts]

WOW the Acura Intergra... but it is a Civic Si because it has a turbo and jacked up price. Did Private Equity get to Honda as well.

[@mikeh4858]

Thinking about getting one of these. I had a 22 si in orange but recently totaled it. I’ll miss the orange lol

[@RNMCCLAIN]

Just bought mine today! Getting it in white :)

[@fp5495]

Lost my tolerance for revving the heck out of small engines just to feel energetic, not even fast. I'm too old for babying the sweet-spot on the rev-range. Honda needs to put a de-tuned version of the 2.0 in this. Heck, I'd rather have a non-turbo 2.5 liter with no lag.

[@luisjalvareztorres8481]

Couldn’t agree more. This is the reason why I chose a GTI over this. Plenty of hp and torque from stock. A simple OTS tune adds 80+ hp and 100+ torque, turning it into a little rocket. Yeah, it’s a VW, not a Honda bla bla bla… but I don’t really care.

[@Derek-pq3zb]

AGREED!!!!….the 2.0T from the accord would’ve been a win in this…that 1.5 motor is horrible IMO…and the integra also…make the 2.0 252hp from the accord the standard engine. Then the 300 plus hp engine for the CTR and the type S integra that they currently have

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

It's a pretty torquey motor so this isn't really accurate

[@Derek-pq3zb]

@AdonaiNatenothing wrong with wanting a lil more speed(torque and hp)…fuel efficiency is a plus. But IMO…the 1.5 is a gutless

[@zealinbarden3942]

Your using it wrong

[@IstralLabraid]

the only thing I want to know is if the sound system is decent, I have a 2019 Miata RF GT and plan on getting rid of it due to it's impracticability as a comfortable daily and little to no space for just about everything, I love the thing but it's just not what I want when I can only have one car(money). So just wanting to know if the sound system is a good quality(it probably is considering it's honda but i'd like to hear your thoughts if you ever see this).

[@mikedaleiden7725]

Good to see a lack of automatic wipers and hope that starts a trend. That is such a pointless feature unless you want your wiper blades to wear out 3x faster.

[@greensabr200]

If I didn't love my 22 mazda3 with a manual so much, this would be my second choice

[@wonderboy1998]

Yes..a Japanese car😊😊❤

[@Karar71717]

Im a simple man: topher video pops up, i click

[@DandyDan123]

The engine has so much going on!! Wires and emission plastic cheap stuff everywhere!!!!

[@rahulscaria4396]

Love your videos❤👍

[@amadeusbertoline1139]

the better car in the world !!!!!

[@groundcontrol6876]

16:41 Not much of a compliment there 😅 The downsides of being a sportier model with the higher NVH than the other trims, while still retaining the sedateness and lack of harmonics that you _do_ want on a car like this. *sigh* That’s the state of the automobile industry these days between all the regs and what the regular person expects out of cars. Thank god I still have my 88’ CRX Si, with a REAL sunroof that’s all but extinct in today’s cars. Moonroofs are so negligible, that it’s almost like it’s not there.

[@jonboz7585]

I would consider getting one, except for turbocharging of a smaller engine. I’ll probably go with a Mazda, naturally aspirated car.

[@MrCdmorenot]

That lady is the reason why I love the United States of America.

[@Kendog]

what's pretty strange I'm noticing is I don't see the shift gear number on the digital gauge cluster which not sure why that's isn't present there

[@BoomerLicks]

Anyone have experience with this little 1.5 turbo? I'm just wondering how it holds up over time assuming proper maintenance.

[@buildmorefarms1007]

You have to ask yourself if for 4 grand more shouldnt you chose the Elantra N? It is much better in every way: No rev hang, much quicker, sounds better, longer warranty, free scheduled maintenance...and you can get a DCT or a manual.

[@cornelionsqween8028]

those red seats are a war crime

[@maximeparent3004]

It also needs a blue color!

[@williamc4353]

Sad that the hybrid is quicker :( could have given it 20-30 more hp. For quickest or 1/4 mile runs the new golf gti comes with 265 hp and will take the civic to gapeebees lol

[@roberta.5602]

curious if the new 25 si cluster will work with a 23 si. I need my coolant temp gage..

[@superstaples]

If only they would put a manual e brake and give it like 50 hp... and paint match the mirrors and spoiler. Maybe add back in the fog lights too and remove the fake piped in sound.

[@yukonstriker1703]

Pattiboi never should have sold his Fg2 Coupe. Installed Hondata Flashpro and got scared of it running lean. Yet never took the time or $ to get it proper dyno tuned.. Audible shift sound is so annoying! Never sell my '06 Si Coupe Literally a FWD S2000 Fuk diver aids 'piped in noise' 😂

[@SM-1010]

Needs a little power bump. Then it’s worth it

[@SM-1010]

@AdonaiNate dude. It’s been this low number for like a decade while only getting heavier. It’s just slow, it can be at least 230hp without compromising anything

[@zealinbarden3942]

@@SM-1010engine power isn’t something Honda was aiming for this thing it’s meant for a to b and the occasional canyon run.

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

235-240hp and 220-225lb-ft of tq would be fantastic. Upgrading the 1.5T to a 1.8T would help with that.

[@SM-1010]

@@antoinelee-thomas9536 the industry standard is like 2.0 or 2.0 turbos

[@SM-1010]

@@zealinbarden3942 what’s the point of Si then? What u described is what the base model civic does

[@zarehdermenjian2297]

Is that startup cluster screen in every 2025 civic si?

[@tato300]

that car at 10:10 was up that trucks ass lmfao.

[@briancrane554]

@TopherDrives - Question for you… now that you have commuted the Civic Si and the ND3 and you had to pick one. Which one would you pick and the main reason why?

[@tamasojohnson1847]

Unless you really need the extra seats, Miata no question :). The new civics are great cars, but the size and handling of the Miata are in a class of its own.

[@TheUnreadableUser]

I feel like Honda is lagging behind with the SI. The type r is as good as ever but you can tell that Honda has made the SI take a back seat. No power boost? No heated steering wheel? No automatic option? No fix for the rev hang? Just overall the SI needs a revamp soon considering the Elantra N Line and Jetta GLI are still in the market, although the competition has been dropping out recently. The Forte GT is on its way out and that was what I would say the best competitor for the SI considering it had cooled seats, a DCT, ONE more horsepower (crazy, I know) and no rev hang in the manual. If kia ever decides to make a K4 GT, and even if they don't, Honda NEEDS to make updates to the SI. It's starting to feel dated.

[@roghaus]

The Civic Si outsells all of those cars lmao

[@TheUnreadableUser]

@@roghaus quite aware, but it feels kind of underserved. The other options seem to be a little bit better optimized and updated

[@roghaus]

@@TheUnreadableUser I mean you're critiquing the Si based on criteria that Honda didn't spec it for. The priority with the Si is driver engagement. Most of the improvements aren't visible from the exterior. They added Type R suspension components and stiffened the chassis. It handles tighter than every car you mentioned. It has the best manual transmission and steering feel.It's never been offered with an automatic because that's not the objective of the car. It's sole purpose is affordable, practical driver engagement. That has always been Honda's M.O. with the Si. The other cars you mentioned maybe have more technology, comfort, and power, but none of them match the driver inputs offered by the Si. Honda built the car to a price point and had to pick and choose what made the cut. They picked driver feel and handling and it excels in that and is the best in class on that criteria. Simply put, if you care more about creature comforts, technology, and having an automatic option....the Civic Si was probably never the right car for you in the first place, and that's why the others exist.

[@TheUnreadableUser]

@@roghaus you're right, but I feel like the argument of the price could still be made. Driving feel is important, but for the price you can get a used Elantra N or GR Corolla and those are probably equal in driving feel

[@driveway250]

I want one of these so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@buildmorefarms1007]

So why dont you get one?

[@jamesrectra9463]

Curious. You mentioned you wouldn't want to spend more than ~ 2 hrs in the seats, but didn't you do an 8 hr road trip in a '22 and say they were great and you didn't have any fatigue?

[@TopherDrives]

That may have been TheTopher. I’ve never road tripped a Civic

[@jamesrectra9463]

Aha! Thank you.

[@coenmcleod9441]

4:30 you said it was number 35 off the line? How do you know that. I bought a 2025 si 2 days ago and I’d like to know what number I have off the line 😂

[@ExiledVessel]

It's usually the last 3-6 numbers of vin. It's like Area produced - car type - production number?

[@Flyboynett]

Did you pay msrp?

[@coenmcleod9441]

@@Flyboynett 33,000 out the door

[@THE1MOOSEGaming]

I just got a 23 cars so good

[@robertwinkler8444]

I like it but hate that red trim and red seat interior

[@nayper4959]

nayper 905 has two

[@mklphoto]

Can the Integra heated steering wheel be added?

[@jonslade2209]

Will the 2 to 1 auto rev matching come to 2025 integras as well?

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

I'm sure it will, if not, then the 2026 model year. It's only the 2nd model year for the Integra or going on the 3rd model year for the Integra, but the Integra Type S is in its second model year.

[@andrefrbk]

HYBRID >>>>> SI for daily driving imo.

[@TopherDrives]

I’m actually driving the Hybrid back at home right now and absolutely love it. The 11th gen lineup overall is fantastic.

[@Localtraveler2376]

@@andrefrbk you can’t get the hybrid with a manual. That sucks.

[@andrefrbk]

@@Localtraveler2376 I used to wish for a automatic SI. Now i can get one. The Hybrid lol.

[@Localtraveler2376]

@@andrefrbk if you are physically able you should leave how to drive a manual. So much more fun. If you have to drive in bumper to bumper traffic everyday you should move lol.

[@cars.withdave]

@@Localtraveler2376 he should move or leave 10 minutes earlier :| and bro wants a automatic civic si lmao

[@keithjackson4985]

This one seems to sound a little better than previous Si's. I like this, but having the same HP for like 20 years is a turn-off.

[@NomenClature-o8s]

This needs 20 more horsepower.

[@Carlb328]

I wish I could buy one.

[@brandonsalvatore9094]

Mine doesn’t have that animation is it in the settings ???

[@ElViperr408]

This will probably be the last Si of this generation. They gave us the Canadian version of this car in the states now

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

Right. They just gave us the stuff that Canada already had when we should've gotten it together. They gave us in the US a stripped out version for the first 3 model years and then give us the extra goodies for the mid-cycle refresh which I am totally fine with. However, Honda needs to stop negating the US market in the beginning when the new gen car comes out. I hope Honda does better for the next gen (12th gen) Civic Si and truly gives it S2000 horsepower between 235-240hp and 220-225lb-ft of tq so it can be the true second most powerful Civic ahead of the Civic Hybrid and behind the Civic Type R. The Civic Si should always be the second of the top-of-the-line trim.

[@tompov227]

where'd you get that Apple Watch band?

[@ricktrue8441]

Is it true that the dealers mark these up to offensive levels?

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

Early on they did. They were marking these up to $35,000-$36,000 during the pandemic and it was only a $27,300 car at the time when this gen Civic Si came out.

[@TheBigBeardedGinger]

How does this compare for to a base model Fiesta ST?

[@buildmorefarms1007]

Both are kinda slow 7 second cars 0-60, both handle well.

[@1_helper-PST]

This and the jetta are the only manuals left . . . . What's going on dude?

[@Tmanw8898]

WRX is still gonna have a 6 speed in 2025 😀

[@1_helper-PST]

@@Tmanw8898 but wrx is gay

[@bigtimesean3912]

my ten year old has a hard time fitting in the back, great car for two people!!!

[@Localtraveler2376]

@@bigtimesean3912 how big is your 10 year old? I have seen reviewer after reviewer sit in the back seat with plenty of room.

[@alexp6409]

My 15 year old has no trouble. I can fit behind myself fine as well (6’ tall).

[@Localtraveler2376]

@@alexp6409 yeah maybe he’s a very big 10 year old lol. I’m guessing by the age of your kid we are about the same age. Some younger parents flip out if their kids don’t have rear air vent and 30 inches of legroom.

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

I'm 6'4 and slim and even I can fit in the back of a Civic Si. Today's compact cars are no longer compact. They're like mid-compact. They have compact in the name with near mid-size sedan proportions and capacity.

[@EricThomason]

Is your 11-year-old King Kong? This car comfortably fits people 6+ feet tall in the back

[@GuilhermeTeixeira]

Tedward mentioned

[@BrendenBaker30]

Too bad the only Honda Civics that are available in standard transmission are SI and Type R for 2025.

[@ejtriance8765]

Sir 500 unread messages?!

[@peach4855]

can we get a passenger princess pov

[@BlueeyedDevil-ep5fn]

This or Acura ilx

[@progdrummer-nenad]

1.5 ok bye

[@brendanalves3053]

that orange SI is the least favorite one they ever made.

[@ak101farhan]

facelift looks wack !

[@jukah3701]

Ok the car is nice and all but that lady 🥹

[@EuGostoVer]

7 one minute ads on a 30 min. video. You better be making bank on this.

[@lifesAtrip513]

My 2003 altima makes 180hp with no turbo......🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@maverick974]

No more si blue. That is kinda bad, actually.

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

A lot of people have said that. The Aegean Blue and the Blazing Orange Pearl. I hope they bring Boost Blue to the Civic Si for the final model year.

[@Localtraveler2376]

It needs more hp. Honda keeping it at 200 is a joke.

[@ChrisM-dx8up]

It's a civic. 200 hp is a lot for a non-hybrid in this segment. If you want more power get the type R.

[@Localtraveler2376]

@@ChrisM-dx8up civic si has been at 200 hp since 2006. They have made the car heavier. All its competitors have over 200 hp. They actually dropped it 5hp since the last gen. They could put it at 230 or 240 and not take sales from the type r which is a completely different car. 200 is not enough for the current market. They say they won’t add a little more sound deadening to save weight but can’t add a little horsepower. And you say “just buy the type r” which is 20,000 more. You can still be a fanboy and not agree with everything Honda does.

[@TT92348]

Power is fine but needs a bespoke motor like the old SI’s. And a 8000rpm redline

[@Localtraveler2376]

@@TT92348 you’re getting the same horsepower you got 20 years ago with a heavier car.

[@ChrisM-dx8up]

@@Localtraveler2376 Sure but the civic is also probably going to last much longer than any of its competitors. If you care enough for closer to 230 or 240, you should personally go get it tuned (which would probably still be cheaper than a Jetta GLI or Mazda3 turbo) but I think most people looking to get the si are probably happy with power figures alongside its reliability.

[@jaxripper251]

It's slow and why did they put that terrible 1.5 engine that burns oil?

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

They've rectified the 1.5T oil burning consumption 5 years ago.

[@jaxripper251]

@@antoinelee-thomas9536 no the fuck they haven't I am technician for Honda. Where are you getting your information from?

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

The CRV was part of the vehicle that had that issue in 2019.

[@rustbeltrobclassic2512]

It's still a nice car, the 07-?? was a weird shape, but last of the good drivetrain, the new one is sharp, but not particularly fun to drive. 200hp is fine at 2800lbs but at 3800lbs it's a little slow.. Think the hybrid is a better choice.. sadly even with a cvt the hybrid is quicker than this thing. Convinced Honda has lost touch with the market.

[@muhammadh.1565]

Interestingly the hybrid actually didn’t have a CVT nor a proper transmission at all

[@themogus]

Wait where did you get the 3800 lbs from? This car is around ~2950.

[@Localtraveler2376]

@@rustbeltrobclassic2512 yeah they’ve been at 200 since 2006. It’s a joke.

[@alexp6409]

I think my 2024 Si is more fun to drive than my ‘09 Si was.

[@Localtraveler2376]

@@alexp6409 they have the same hp though and the 2024 is heavier. Wish they had boosted the hp a little more.

[@andrem5843]

You basically just got the canadian spec SI from the last couple years. Lol

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

Basically. They could have added more. LOL!

[@yourmanzach2307]

its a pass. wrx for the same price

[@thomasdinh2753]

cant stand people that litter. how lazy are you to throw it in the trash when you pump gas?

[@MoeCamera]

No hydraulic hood struts, cloth seats, no rear wheel drive. no thanks

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

When has a Civic Si ever been RWD? It's not an S2000.

[@SineFractal]

200 hp is pathetic for a "sports" car today

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

Tell that to Toyota and Subaru with the GR86 and BRZ with 224hp and Honda with the 230-240hp on the AP1 and AP2 S2000s, which is where the next gen Civic Si rightfully belongs. If Honda reads comments like they say they do, the 12th gen Civic Si really needs 240hp and an engine upgrade if they can't do anymore than what they claim they can't do out of the factory. If you can't get 230-240hp out of their 1.5T, then add .3L of displacement and make the engine a 1.8T and that will solve the performance issue that people are asking and begging this car to be.

[@SineFractal]

@@antoinelee-thomas9536 based on the size of the car the Civic SI is underpowered.

[@roghaus]

@@SineFractal it weighs under 3,000 lbs...