2025 Military Draft: Get ready for WAR Gen Z it’s YOUR time to shine!

My perspective on the changes to the draft system, women being drafted and conscription. #military #specialforces #greenberet
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[@jonnygraham2372]

World war 2: Fought for a future to thrive in. World war 3: fighting for a future to barely survive in.

[@CrayonMan731]

Absolutely true, back then America was great, now it feels like we haven’t had a good president since Theodore Roosevelt. America today is so shitty, the government wonders why we can’t be as patriotic anymore.

[@CrayonMan731]

@@aphrodite7194 More like preventing Russia and China from overruling the U.S. no country or ruler profits from war.

[@aphrodite7194]

@CrayonMan731 All orchestrated by the WEF. Still doing the puppet master's bidding.

[@jacobsanders8079]

​@@CrayonMan731Lockheed, Raytheon and Northrop investors would disagree.

[@tonythetwitch5813]

​@@CrayonMan731living under a rock are we lol ever heard of the military industrial complex?

[@evilchaperone]

Teach a child to hate their country, I'll show you an adult that won't fight for it.

[@chuckg9731]

@@evilchaperone How about… lie to the children about the history of their country( like slaves immigrated and were willing servants). I’ll show you a generation that doesn’t have faith in it.

[@TheOriginalHuckleberry]

Grrrreat point!!

[@albertgrant1017]

Well stated !

[@ChakLok]

GenZ here and I say Fuck no I’m not fighting in a society that hates me

[@Azurie-e9s]

you will chump you will😉

[@qjtvaddict]

That’s the spirit

[@Berek4167]

Waaaaaaaaaa

[@seneca1932]

@@Berek4167well, somebody’s tired. Do you need a nap?

[@jesuscalv6769]

I don't care about you freedoms

[@Will97675]

You’re exactly right. The government has done a terrible job of incentivizing military service.

[@jwithersooon]

Thats the thing it shouldn’t be compulsory all throughout history there have been those that have stepped up it also happens that the standards are higher these days due to our “enlightened” society

[@R.W.Raegan]

​@@jwithersooon Very true

[@AdamKeele]

Well one thing that doesn't help with retention is congress has been eroding our benefits outside of a better GI Bill in the 24 years since I joined. There use to be so many different things that added up, that no longer add up as a benefit. I just heard a guy yesterday talking about getting out at 17 years because he hadn't been promoted to E-7 and has been eligible for over 7 years, and thinks he can get a $130,000/yr computer job if he got out. Use to once you went over the 10 year mark, most road it out. Now that we are so interconnected by the social media and internet, people know how much it can be better in certain jobs and branches and less stress in some civilian equivalent jobs. More people are willing to give up the pension and medical because of the BS by some of varying levels of leadership dropping the ball. I know until I hit 17, I was very close to punching out numerous times. But here I am still 24 years later. There's just something about being able to call it quits any time and you'll have that retirement, and every day you stay, the points keep adding up. But I have the old retirement system and not this new trash where you have to rely on the stock market to have a decent retirement. That's the thing with gambling--might end up better, but you better hope you're not retiring when the market crashes and wipes out your earnings.

[@fredcollins8919]

then they'll simply have to quickly & effectively have to do a much BETTER job

[@Will97675]

@@fredcollins8919 there’s a lot of things the government would need to address. But that would require politicians to come together regardless of political background. Veterans deserve better care. Issues like suicide, drug and alcohol abuse, psychiatric problems, physical ailments, etc plague the veteran community. The issues run deeper than that though.

[@basedbossbabyvibez5097]

got me fucked up thinking ima die in some rich man’s war

[@relicpathfinder2800]

You don't have to go to war, just sit on the couch, eventually war will come to you.

[@dennismartin3356]

Stop voting for Democrats as they have a history of getting us into wars.

[@bigg4879]

@@basedbossbabyvibez5097 You guys are already being pre automatic registered for the draft. Congress is not pushing pre automatic registration because they don't anticipate a world war where they will need people to fight to replace the ones who die. Maybe tell the government to stop sending weapons to Ukraine and escalating the war. Geez

[@mattfransen1551]

Gen Z here. I’ll feed the algorithm for you and throw my perspective in. I think a big factor not many people talk about that turns otherwise patriotic people like myself away from the military is nobody wants to fight for a politician’s stock portfolio. I grew up around spec ops guys from Seals to CCT’s who have encouraged me to join for the positives you’ve highlighted and discouraged me for the reason I brought up. Disregard my civilian opinion, but I think it’s a huge reason people don’t join. Personally I didn’t, mainly for that reason. I’ve also been in an active shooter confrontation, didn’t fold but would rather not experience that again especially for a cause I have reservations about. It’s a growing sentiment that none of the wars we’ve fought since WW2 have been for the American people and the next war sure as hall won’t be.

[@brandonurbaniak1890]

Refreshing to see a GenZ say something like this.

[@Will97675]

@@mattfransen1551 The only entities benefiting from wars are the politicians and the defense contractors. It’s hard for the general public to support a war or military service when you hear GWOT veterans openly talking about how that whole war was a lie.

[@xdvblack7947]

I'm glad some truth is still alive 🙏

[@PhillipFelix-kw3zi]

Well said

[@TUGBOATMCMUFFIN]

If world war 2 was a war that was worth fighting for the American people and it's government, then why is there some wars where countries have divided government and start inperializing allies as one of the same reason why the u.s engaged into war with another country while defending it's country alliance. The u.s got involved with ww2 because of the pearl harbor attack and France being invaded by Germany. 2,403 deaths for pearl harbor attack, 9/11 twin tower attack had 2,996 deaths and the u.s went to war in Afghanistan. Pretty much majority of the time the u.s will go to war when it is necessary.

[@nothisispatrick9778]

I’m a gen z. I refuse to go to foreign country to fight a war that was wanted by rich old people. Our lives shouldn’t have to pay the price for their greed. Politicians should go fight the wars they want so badly. I bet you their grandkids will be exempted from the draft. Sickening.

[@fredcollins8919]

@@nothisispatrick9778 no draft now will there ever be one UNLESS a TRUE major national/Global emergency takes places, as in/e.g. a foreign enemy ground invasion of sacred mainland US. Otherwise -NO

[@brendanpelly213]

Listen to the song, 'Fortune Son' by Creedence Clearwater Rival It's about exactly what you just said We were saying exactly the same thing 50 years ago, and now it's your turn Good luck

[@relicpathfinder2800]

You should research how many politicians already served.

[@jackdaniel7465]

Suck it up, we did, we served, now you want to cry, you are up buttercup!!!😂😂

[@ravenclangaming]

​​@@brendanpelly213umm how about no. Men are getting passports now more than ever. As long as you have one before the draft is reactivated you can just leave. Thousands if not a few hundred thousand simply walked out of Russia when Ukraine started before they linked they're military conscription system to their customs and border security. Then anyone who hadn't served their two years couldn't leave. Id rather go to prison though then war until I'm offered a better deal with the laws and marriage system

[@Mrwhomeyou]

My dad was in Vietnam 68-72, wounded 4 times, only received 2 Purple Hearts for them. Last time he was wound, 4 of the 7 guys with him were killed. Told me to not join, told me he was stupid. I will fight for our safety, I will not fight for our military industrial complex when bipartisan politicians lined their pockets

[@VulcanRedux]

EXACTLY

[@thehimself4056]

Yep. Dodge the draft and become potus. Like Trump and Clinton

[@bigg4879]

@@Mrwhomeyou They force you to the option that you young folk will be the same option that they gave your dad. Fight or go to prison and have a federal crime on your record for the rest of your life. Maybe you should be cautious who you vote for because you're current President was the one who insisted that Ukraine be part of NATO and keeps the war going by refusing to negotiate a peace deal and continues to send them weapons

[@user-zn9on5ob8i]

We need to stop fighting for other countries when ours is falling apart

[@chrhadden]

its because of people like you that its falling apart. two birds one stone

[@montagreloaded7586]

@@chrhadden That range shoots both ways.

[@burritooperator5850]

I ain’t dying for Israel. Period.

[@anti-naturevegan]

You will anti-Semite

[@eric57016]

Yrs you will.

[@asaojohnston8235]

How many jewish Americans are in the US military?

[@legendmaster1989]

Blessed are he who bless them cursed are those who curse them

[@unc1221]

@@eric57016😂😂😂

[@Man_of_tungsten]

Im not dying for pointless wars. I want to live!

[@rapstar4575]

Refuse unless they come to USA

[@robincordero3]

true i rather die defending my house and family but i shouldn't have too if the government doesn't start any wars

[@HorusTheGrey_17]

Nope, getcha lil ass out there champ..😂😂 jk..But i feel u tho

[@recabitejehonadab2654]

You’ll fight where your country tells you to fight or live elsewhere.

[@robincordero3]

@@recabitejehonadab2654 it's not even the country it these stupid leaders

[@rw6399]

As gen z'r, i feel like everyone talking about this story isn't really hitting on the point that needs to be made here. It doesn't matter if gen z is physically or mentally capable of joining the military, they will draft you no matter what if the need arises, your ADHD or bipolar disorder won't stop them from shoving a rifle in your hands and throwing you to the meat grinder. The only gen z'rs that i know that would make good soldiers, would rather fight our own government than die for the security of its global empire. The irony is, a draft would only spell it's end.

[@ValhallaVFT]

Ya people said the exact same thing in WW2, The Korean War and Vietnam, and the country still hasn’t ended, so cute thought, but ya no.

[@stefthorman8548]

@@ValhallaVFT except we stopped the draft since the Vietnam era, since people were getting soft then, and since people were actually documenting the war, imagine if it was now, where people nowadays are even more soft, and can't even gun down civilians like Vietnam Vets could, but if they could gun down civilians(never say never, draft, means no mental health requirements as well), so killing surrendering civilians might be even more rampant, kind of like in Russia, and you do really think your draftees are as moral then theirs? no, were all human, but if they do reinitiate the draft, they better also legalize war crimes, and allow war trophies.

[@Leolanischpani]

100%

[@donaldgrant9067]

@@ValhallaVFT Yea, you forget about the over 1000 fraggings that went on in Vietnam. In fact the military officer that order the attack on Hamberger hill had a price on his head after that battle. Now with this generation it will be much worse. They have no feelings for anyone one else but themselves. Now is that what you want for those cadets at west point?

[@riclate2013]

​@@stefthorman8548to be honest i never understood why they didn't allow taking home weapons or armor as a war trophy. I can understand body parts as thats pretty hardcore.

[@matthewotis3594]

No one wants to fight for this government.

[@ValhallaVFT]

That’s the great thing about the draft, you wont have a choice.

[@milostodorovic69]

@@ValhallaVFTthey’re going to learn!

[@matthewotis3594]

I'd go to jail first before fighting bidens war. And me and my family put in our work from the Civil War to island hopping on the pacific ( grandpa) to crew chiefing a gunship in nam( my father). Me and bro in Iraq but my bro went to Afghanistan and then many more countries in embassies because he went to msg school. MY family has always been pro military. My gramps and father weren't drafted. Were already signed up for the corps. My first cousins went ahead and retired after 20 when biden started his shit. They had the right to retire but wanted to stay in. Just not gonna back bs policies and play new word games pushed by the libs. I'll die for my country. Fuk this government. We don't need drafted, we volunteer. I beleive in the draft and conscription. Wouldn't hurt anyone to do atleast 2 years.

[@sirloin9348]

Ding ding ding! Problem is that doesn't matter. I bet we'll see a massive increase in ppl converting to "pacifist" religions in the near future. Also, the amount of Gen Z kids that'll be DQ'd is likely huge: the stats on how many of them are prescribed drugs for mental health reasons are staggering. Once that becomes more common knowledge, I bet we'll see a massive spike in the amount of ppl going to psychiatrists to get diagnosed. That, and their fitness level will be abysmal on purpose. Trying to draft Gen Z is gonna do far more harm than good, particularly to Gen Z.

[@agoodone792]

@@ValhallaVFTwe always have a choice because we have guns.

[@TraumaticBanana]

Had a dude in Iraq try to commit suicide about a week in. Cant imagine some of these Gen Z individuals in combat.

[@ATHLETIC_FEMBOY]

Don't worry banana dude. Me and the bois got this.

[@kutthroatbob8983]

Not all of us are soft, I’m enlisting as an eod tech. Going to meps Tuesday🫡

[@stefthorman8548]

crazy that enlisted(willing and prepared) are killing themselves, and the command think draftees(unwilling and unprepared) are an good idea,

[@majorleagueminuteman1344]

@@kutthroatbob8983 you haven’t done shit yet, boot.

[@Aden_III]

@@kutthroatbob8983you’ll eat those words

[@benjamingarrett9960]

Do they really think that folks are going to be motivated to fight on after being forced against their will to fight for some rich folks???

[@miketimlinson603]

And fighting for no reason these words could easily be stopped, but we have to pay our military industrial complex so about money for people, but not for the kids that get killed. You just don’t comply.

[@Makemsayahlex]

Fight for Israel or resources in Ukraine which neither benefit the average American citizen

[@GrittySoldier]

Appreciate the shout out brother. **for constructive discussion purposes: I’d disagree a little when you say “you can’t force anyone to fight.” It happens all the time around the world, but I know you know that, and have seen that. I would say, it will be very difficult to force Americans to fight. Thats another story. I think America is in for a big awakening, one that nobody can predict. It’s going to be up to us to decide how it turns out, which is what our culture would consider “the right way” to go about it.

[@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ]

Greek ex military officer here to give a new perspective. Most of the western countries hate their own men, putting a clever a capable guy into a fighting position against an enemy while you treated your own men like shit (and I mean it in the extreme way ) is a good way to send more men to the enemy's side . Also sending a woman to the frontline is a recipe for disaster cause if she make a mistake many men will try to save her this losing more capable people to save one. Sure there are some women that are built for this but they are the exception and not the rule and they're far too few

[@andrear7181]

I am a chilean woman and here is y perspective: 1. I understand why western men don´t want to go fight for their country that hates them. Here in Chile politicians pass bill after bill inspired on radical feminism that treats men like shit, why should they fight? Plus, traditionally men went to war to protect women and children, but we live in an era when women don´t wanto to be protected and they will not even protect to life in their womb. If they not respect and protect life, why should men protect them? 2. Women should not be drafted, they should join the army only if they want to, and they should only do secondary jobs. The front line is not a place for women, for the same reasons you explain. Plus, if she falls in the hands of the enemy, men will risk their lives and the mission to save here, there is no way they are going to leave her behind.

[@Twizzzums]

I think the part about the whole situation is the fact that my generation truly and genuinely believes this not a nation worth fighting for anymore. We can sit here and chat about gen Z all day but we’ll never get anywhere if they don’t talk to us. This generation sees the impossibility of getting a good home, it’s not abnormal to have 10-30+ sexual relationships by the age of 25-30, so they don’t have a wife to fight for or home to protect. They get taxed up the ass, the inflation and interest is drowning them financially. Healthcare, goodluck. Education cost is predatory. Infrastructure is falling apart at the seems. No legislation has really been passed to fix any of this. Corporate greed, I know sounds left as shit, but it’s true. Gen Z has nothing to fight for. Our elders fucked it all up. There’s a reason the alternate name is “the lost generation”. I’m a veteran, gen Z, so I can see both sides. If the US Government wasn’t such a predatory system they wouldn’t need to institute a draft. Young men left right and center would volunteer had they been taken care of. Gen Z are veterans and the Government is the VA. They don’t give a shit about us. Politicians wouldn’t even spit on us on a hot day. Whole country’s fucked up.

[@ValhallaVFT]

I’ve seen the rest of the world, your generation thinking America isn’t worth fighting for is delusional as fuck. That’s a sentiment from a generation of coddled babies who’ve never faced any adversity.

[@Twizzzums]

@@ValhallaVFT I don’t disagree. I too went over seas, I have an American Flag that was flown over the White House in my honor. I’ve met with Congress, several times. I personally know 3 astronauts. I’m very much so a patriot. Like we can sit here and say my generation is “weak” and “coddled” and blah blah blah. They said the same shit about the kids that stormed Normandy. You can’t compare your experiences, because you, we, volunteered for it. It’s not applicable here. You had something worth fighting for, they don’t. That’s the difference. This generation has no purpose. They are known as “the lost generation”. I’ve watched NCO’s scream at Soldiers who grew up in Afghanistan calling them soft. Like you have no idea, about anyone. You were backed by the biggest military and best training in the world, and the government wants to throw these kids to the wolves, and your response is “you’re coddled”? After the Government took everything already? And what they didn’t take they let the Corporations have? You tell everyone else they play the victim card and every single time the first thing out of y’alls mouth is “I had it so bad, that deployment fucked me up” like, NOBODY forced you to do it lmao. Instead of telling this generation “get hard” and shit, maybe we should be building the country back to its former glory, so that these men and women can come home proud, with a country that wants them back. You’re really gonna attack this upcoming wave of warriors, after we watch every generation of veterans get absolutely PP slapped by this society? Gen Z isn’t the one blowing their fucking brains out 22 times a day brother it ain’t about being coddled or being hard. Turn your aggression to the appropriate target cause it’s not your kids and nephews that are the problem. There are some shit country’s and societies out there, trust me, I know. But those kids aren’t signing up to fight for it? They’re innovating and getting active about making their nations a better place. Tf is the point of fighting for this country if you can’t even get a home? You don’t even LIVE HERE type shit 🤣 Finally, though we may disagree on the quality of our generations, I still love your content and from one warrior to another, you are loved here big fella. I do also agree, hardship builds charecter and a better understanding of reality. Something a lot of people need, a reality check. Cause life can be a lot harder than missing rent on a 9-5.

[@Cyd98]

Completely agree I’m a veteran 26

[@ViktoriousDead]

⁠@@ValhallaVFTOur generation is currently suck starting shotguns left and right because somebody blew up an MRAP in front of them their first time outside the wire. Every generation has its issues, and every generation thinks it smarter than the one before, and the wiser than the one after. Gen Z didn’t raise itself, parents are to blame.

[@Nobody90019]

@@ValhallaVFT I promise you. I will give you more adversity than you could ever dream of.

[@raymondchampion7251]

If a woman wants to be a Green Beret, SEAL, Ranger, etc, fine, but the standards must not be lowered in order to accommodate their physiology.

[@user-cc5od3zk4p]

Agreed. Women do not have the physical capability to navigate SFs. These guys are BIG. No woman could compete with that. Men and Women are NOT equal. We are different and we need to work with what we have.

[@ElohimEssaim]

Sounds like you don't agree with the comment. Yes men and women are different, no one disagrees with that. Physiologically only few women could make the standards probably. BUT if they make the standard, let them do the job ​@@user-cc5od3zk4p

[@VileGlory]

The women who want to do that are only doing so to make a statement.

[@AsiaCordone]

Agreed. I believe a woman in the was granted a Scarlet beret after some intense training.

[@yashjoseph3544]

@@user-cc5od3zk4p SF guys aren't as big as you might think. These guys do a LOT of running. More muscle mass doesn't help with that. They look like your average healthy man.

[@madmechanic7976]

The problem with this is that we haven't defended our freedom ever 😂

[@MichelleHell]

We've certainly expanded it to 150+ countries around the globe

[@montagreloaded7586]

@@MichelleHell How many of them have freedom of speech, a right to privacy and the ownership of weapons?

[@StarATL]

As a teenager right out of high school in the 80’s, i did not want to go to college, i had no skills beyond emerging computer skills, no sense of direction, joined the military within two days of graduation. Best thing that ever happened. Gained skills, figured out what I wanted out of life, got my VA benefit, made airman of the year for my base. Found my purpose in life. I think the draft would help a lot of drifting, aimless kids get some discipline and maybe learn some respect for others, gain some skills in the process. Some will end up in Leavenworth.

[@ValhallaVFT]

Military saved my life for sure as well. Super underrated for what it gives young men and women.

[@yolandazamani5776]

There's a difference between being a military man and actually going to war. Wars these days are highly technological with no one respecting the rules of war. Wars are no longer the same. It has a high casualty rate now because of technology. Avoid it if you can.

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

the county today is not worth dying for. let trump and biden's sons and grandsons go fight in uncle sam's corporate wars.

[@ValhallaVFT]

@@thispersonrighthere9024 go live somewhere else then. Bet you won’t.

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

@@ValhallaVFT MIND YOUR OWN *BLASTED* BUSINESS. AND IF YOU ARE A TRUE AMERICAN, DO NOT TRAMPLE OVER MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH BY DELETING THIS COMMENT!

[@Zero-0o0250]

I will not go to war because : 1- I will not betray humanity 2- I will not betray God commandment 3- I will not betray Jesus ways 4- I will not go to kill a person I have never seen in my life ( the exact reflection of me = person been forced) To all those hypocrites that are in favor of forcing people = traitor to democracy and freedom. (Only a human have the right to choose but slaves can’t)You are no different from a dictator.

[@TarsonTalon]

I will not go to war because: 1- My ambitions don't require the extinction of humanity 2- I feel no duty to a nation of liars and backstabbers who turned the economy into a game of Monopoly 3- I will not betray myself, because natural selection doesn't care what people think, only who lives to breed 4- I literally gain NOTHING. No offers of land, women, or wealth, and even if there was, see number 2 To all those idiots who think they COULD force people to fight...prepare for 'Unforeseen Consequences'.

[@MDR-hn2yz]

I volunteered after 9/11 and spent 6 years active Marines. After I got in I volunteered for flight duty as an aerial gunner in helicopters. I remember my interview and they basically said that this is hazardous duty and it’s dangerous. I said sign me up. I flew in combat in OIF and it was 110% the hardest thing I have ever done. Mentally and physically. Everyone on our crew was a volunteer. Even on the worst of days, everyone wanted to suit up and get some. I would say, especially on the worst days, when the grunts were in contact or needed a dustoff, or we had to insert dudes to snatch some bad guys…. my guys brought their A game every time. I can’t imagine going downrange with a bunch of people who don’t want to be there. That said, my wife’s grandfather was drafted and sent to the Korean War. He served as a machine gunner in the 24th and 45th infantry division, and spent 16 months in combat. He was probably one of the toughest and most patriotic dudes I ever met. But I think that was a different era. A better era. Semper Fi🇺🇸

[@herkload]

Rah

[@CrayonMan731]

Damn right about that better era, we all miss the greatest generation of men and women and they’re soon going to all vanish from the world as the currently worst generation is all the young boys and girls. Emphasis on boys and girls, gen Z are hardly men or women at all. Semper Fi

[@thegoldenpathh]

All badass brother, God bless

[@WildnUnruly]

YaHOOOOO! Don’t worry those that don’t fight will soon fall. They either fight or don’t survive. They got what they voted for. We tried to tell them.

[@locker125]

If a draft is started anytime soon under this government.... Dodge it!

[@BlackDahlia_Smile]

I've been getting a fuck ton of military mail from Austin Texas Military Base and was shocked they wrote me a whole letter with my full government name i was like tf is this shit 😂😂😂

[@jeremymishefske1754]

I was in the Marines infantry first Gulf war. I have a 20 year old son and I would rather go back in than have him go. Love your Channel Nate! Keep up the great videos!

[@rc2487]

Probably because you didn’t have to fight in that war because the Iraqis were surrendering.

[@jeremymishefske1754]

@@rc2487 You have no idea what I encountered in that war. Shut your mouth and mind your own business.

[@cclynn6211]

​@@jeremymishefske1754Thank you for your service.❤❤❤

[@tonythetwitch5813]

​@@rc2487war is hell there's no glory in it

[@carlosenriquegonzalez-isla6523]

You are a great father

[@archiij1707]

Yeah no lol i fear a draft would kick off massive violent protest. Plus no one wants to die for the MIC & they who shall not be named, i see them recalling retired service men & women & offering foreigners citizenship for fighting.

[@ValhallaVFT]

Violent protest by who? Gen z lol? Oh no lol. I don’t think people realize how this works in times of serious war, there won’t be violent protests because the government will violently end them, it’s not gona be like the BLM riots where you get to just burn things down with no consequence.

[@archiij1707]

@@ValhallaVFT well I won't discount them completely l, but which ever way the govt goes i gurantee it'll be a shitshow. But I feel there needs to be a valid cause to get folks to join.

[@milostodorovic69]

If your country calls you to arms you must go or face the consequences! One of our duties as citizens of the United States of America, no reasoning needed!

[@archiij1707]

@@milostodorovic69 while I agree, unfortunately that isn't the reality we are living in otherwise we wouldn't be having retention problems in peace times.

[@majorleagueminuteman1344]

@@ValhallaVFT you might be okay with the elites squandering our sacrifice. I’m not. I’m not gen z. I spent 17 years in and 4 combat tours between Iraq and Afghanistan. I was med retired for combat wounds. They knew both Iraq and Afghanistan were unwinnable and sent us there again and again anyways. And for what? Money. That’s what. They did the same to my dad and his generation in Vietnam. You think honoring the fallen is blindly following orders. I think honoring the fallen is making sure we don’t get into wars we aren’t willing to win in the first place. We don’t have the moral high ground anymore. Until we do, I agree with the gen z sentiment about the corruption of the system. Our government and most of the people simply aren’t worth serving in the first place. Covid proved that. It’s gonna get worse before it gets worse. If a draft arises, I plan on doing my duty by arranging appointments with draft board members and piano wire. It won’t be like 2020, it’ll be the break up of Yugoslavia, and if you can’t see that, you’re completely out of touch.

[@AKlover]

A draft would spark "Balkanization"

[@herja-youngodin2040]

Great video, thanks!

[@enclavesoldier769]

I always chuckle when men and boys freak out about being drafted and screaming they will not fight, when in all likelihood they will be not fit to even join

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

I had a marine recruiter suggesting jobs no matter how disabled I made myself look and sound. They’re desperate

[@hanselito2416]

I think its only the women theyre saying are unfit to force into the war but fit to vote for the war

[@hanselito2416]

I think its only the women theyre saying are unfit to force into the war but fit to vote for the war

[@chuckg9731]

@@enclavesoldier769 That’s true. But you know what’s not funny. The same w a r mongers who also wouldn’t be fit to join, are a 100 times less capable of leading us into war. But they do…

[@1231dre]

Young men dying for old men wars

[@albertgrant1017]

DONE THROUGHOUT HISTORY , !

[@carlmason6477]

Dude you nailed! I agree with every point you made. Well done Sir

[@TheHiddenleaf03]

Respect you for making this video.

[@brandonlind5700]

I highly doubt there’s going to be a draft lol I don’t think the U.S. govt has military capacity to fight a civil war that would highly likely erupt over that. I think most good Americans in the west, south and Appalachia would rather die fighting the current federal govt then fighting for it in some geo political distraction. The mentally of if you’re going to die might as well die like Socrates not as some Neo slave gladiator, like a live free or die mentally seems increasely common. Texas Republican Party has changed its platform to pushing a secession referendum I think and now Texas is building its own stock exchange. Texas is projecting military power through border proxy seemingly also. So you’re going have domestic non state and state actors ready to fight the fed if there’s draft I think. I find it a bit hard to believe Americans are going to just roll over and allow the fed to drain their communities of fighting aged individuals given the political movements and political instability in the U.S.. I find a hard sell that the fed won’t need to fight and take the jungles of Appalachia and the mountains of the west before drafting people to go die in some socialist Neo peasant army so Raytheon can increase its profit margins politicians can protect investments in Ukraine lol

[@McdonaldsInFallujah]

The only gen z group that would even survive military draft mentally, are the ones born in 1997 - 2002 that are patriotic in my opinion

[@jay_r9825]

Well some maybe I’m not military material i can assure you about that

[@TUGBOATMCMUFFIN]

How so does a year birth determine somones mentality?

[@omegaone65]

Satanic Government turned that batch into opioid addicts

[@dnjdsolarus]

Patriotism =/= dying for anti-american bureaucrats and their bottom line

[@yashjoseph3544]

What about me? I was born in 2003. Does being born one year later make me not "patriotic"?

[@RobARug]

"9 out of 10 people could not handle being in combat." 9 out of 10 people nowadays could not handle being in military.

[@ValhallaVFT]

You’re not wrong.

[@TarsonTalon]

And the remaining 1 has a grudge against their society.

[@joesgotya9930]

Colonel Charlie Beckwith said it best - “I’d rather go down river with 7 studs, then a with a 100 shit heads” 😀🇺🇸

[@herkload]

As someone who just left the military this year, I’m glad I’m going to be “too old” in 2025 to be drafted, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I did get recalled 😂

[@almersonpetryshyn869]

What’s most sad about this is that the good people of my generation are gonna be the ones to be sent off to die. The fit, patriotic and level headed guys likely are gonna be the ones endangered, hopefully I’m wrong

[@Scottmorena1]

Sadly you’re right man. I’m one of them bro and I’m only 19. I want still serve just because Jesus is calling me to it. To be a light for so many men in our military and in the whole world. Not to mention in doing it for all the men who gave their lives for mine 🫱🏽‍🫲🏼. Sadly the righteous men of this country end up dead. But just know I live forever because of Jesus ❤

[@almersonpetryshyn869]

@@Scottmorena1 Amen bro same here, I’ll be joining but I don’t want the studs of our age to be sent to die especially against their will. You got great inspirations

[@ViktoriousDead]

You just described human warfare from the beginning of time.

[@Matthew-zu6tm]

They proved that one with Billy Clinton being the model citizen followed by Biden.😅

[@jordynturner4244]

@@Scottmorena1 if you think Jesus wants you to participate in mankind’s pointless wars you might need to read the Bible again. Specifically John 18:36 and Ephesians 6:12. True Christians are always neutral

[@BadActor-]

Save The Country.... Send The "Woke." 🦄

[@ValhallaVFT]

Lol. As funny as I think that would be, that’s a great way to ensure we lose the next war.

[@GiacomoRavioli]

Never been designed to win.

[@ValhallaVFT]

@@GiacomoRavioli no but they’re designed to be protracted and not lose.

[@emmanuelawosusi2365]

​@@ValhallaVFT generation z here some us are not soft dumb asss

[@emmanuelawosusi2365]

​@@ValhallaVFT love the video

[@jeremys4461]

If gen z is fighting, we're going to lose.

[@keeppressing1760]

Exactly 💯 I'm a former military veteran

[@doomslayer15]

Gen Z here, already did my time on active duty infantry. Good luck with draft, my ass ain't going.

[@Christopher0081]

Lmao. I got till 2026 then I'm out. Hopefully I don't get recalled when bullets start flying 😅

[@YuinAstrophel]

Gen Z turning out to be very conservative. Millennials: Draft them.

[@CPT85]

Overgeneralizing and demonstrably jaded even going as far as using an appeal to authority fallacy.

[@MDLamb80]

Awesome breakdown.

[@ValhallaVFT]

🫡

[@christopherwanamaker828]

I agree with a lot of what you said. As a 13 year Logistics Army War Veteran I to believe there are so many things all the military branches could do to overhaul and improve all current active serving veterans lifestyles, work environments, training and requirements such as improved realistic real world training, not just classroom brainwash training of things they'll never actually do or use in the real world because what they teach in a classroom environment is set for an unrealistic perfect world where everything works and runs smoothly and perfectly. Promotion boards also need to be massively overhauled and improved were 80% is all about knowing your MOS job inside and out and what it means to be a good leader to those around you and the other 20% can be on PT scores, weapons qualifications, uniforms, and maybe a few other specific topic subjects. Just so your aware dude, you stated there are like 400 million Americans in the United Stated and according to Google the current population in the United States is between 336-341 million. I completely agree that every single American out of high school, that is physically and mentally capable of serving his country, should conduct mandatory service for 2-4 years worth with few exceptions like they got a full ride scholarship to college or they are fully planning on taking over a family run business etc. Mandatory service would help the younger generation mentally and emotionally grow and evolve so much because they lack discipline, patients, maturity, focus, integrity, trust, respect, belief in themselves, communication skills, and the overall desire to push themselves mentally and emotionally to become stronger because they just want everything to be easy and handed to them for instant gratification! So, they really need to be broken down in order to be reshaped and rebuilt into something better. Back in the day, from my understanding, when women didn't have much rights but men did it was due to the fact that men could be drafted for war but women couldn't and yet at one point we just gave women a bunch of rights but didn't require them to be drafted for war to fully earn those rights. And I've seen plenty of videos were women hate working and having those rights because they don't want adulthood responsibilities to have to take care of themselves and pay there way in life. Most of them want all the positives of adulthood but they want to avoid at all cost any and all negatives. So, I would suggest that all adult women are given the choice option for themselves to give up all their rights to the government or to a man, which means the government or a man has to take care of those women and keep them safe, alive, and healthy but they do what they are told, or if certain women want the same rights as men, then they can have all those same rights, but to fully get those rights they sign up to be drafted just like men do and they can only decide to change their minds every 5-10 years on whether they want to keep and have the same rights as men or give them completely up, because people do change overtime as they get older. If interested I to am a KZbinr under my Full-Name with the same profile picture as this post. I currently have 252 Subscribers, 45 videos, covering 25 different topic areas such as 24-72 Hour High Quality Survival Bug Out Bag Building, Vehicle and Home Preparedness and Readiness advice videos, a dozen Cooking Creation Recipe videos, several Financial Literacy advice videos for ones personal finances, and more! If you check them out, I hope you enjoy them and hit like, subscribe, and make any comments you wish. Have a great day, brother, excellent video!

[@carlosenriquegonzalez-isla6523]

I did the military service in my country I was happy to do it. To this day, one the main jobs of the military there is to help its citizens in case of natural disasters. In my time living in this country I have never seen the military doing that in this country.

[@thewanderingstruggler8601]

Gen Z here. Joining my fellow crayon-eaters. Drafting myself. Wish me luck. 🤘🏼 I’ll be sure to subscribe and watch your videos. You seem very wise and have solid advice. Thank you for your service and God bless. 🙏🏼 EDIT: At 24, I figure why not? I’ll join the poolees so boot camp won’t be too much of a shock and I’ll train with the Recruiter as much as I can, and study hard for my ASVAB. Wish me luck. :)

[@ValhallaVFT]

Hell ya dude. Good luck on your journey. Enjoy it, it flys by before you know it and then you’re retired.

[@user-be7tc2bd6e]

@@ValhallaVFT Just want to inform you there was almost a draft ( came pretty DANG close too ) back in 2006. I was doing a train-up with my Texas Guard unit at Ft Hood,Tx ( now renamed Ft Cavazos ) a 5 month train-up with an aviation-brigade,they were a guard unit outta San Antonio and had some of the finest women ( some were mexican,white,asian and black females ) I've ever seen in the military.This journey with them would be my second straight deployment to Iraq,my first tour was with an infantry unit in 2005 at Camp TQ ( a Marine FOB ) I volunteered for 4 total deployments to go fight in Iraq,these 2 were my first 2 tours. So,one day I went to the Warriors exchange on Hood ( it's since been renamed )met an E-7 there who worked up in PERSCOM,we started talking and he told me were so-CLOSE-to an actual draft,so close it wasn't funny.And what the government wanted to do was send every unit,brigade,every swinging &&&&,the entire Ft Hood to Iraq,then recall prior service under 60 % disability back to active duty to run Ft Hood.I was-FLOORED-by this information,they needed bodies-BADLY. Of course this never happened,but,it was on the table. SEMPER-FI

[@mrsporadicsporkguy5481]

As a Gen Z guy Im okay with getting drafted personally because I tried to join the Army before only to get told I had too many waivers. I guess they might be getting desperate enough now.

[@Autowill]

It depends on what the waivers are for. There are some waivers the DOD will not be flexible with regardless of how bad they need personnel. Not to discourage you, hopefully you'll get what you want, but i'm just saying.

[@mrsporadicsporkguy5481]

@@Autowill Cleft Lip and Palate for me. Screwed up and mention I had one even though it was fully reconstructed

[@MadDogRyan]

I ain't doing shit for Biden

[@bitesizecrayons9187]

People in Trump's orbit have been in talks about a draft, and he's the current favorite to win 2024. That get you in the fighting spirit?

[@MitchellBlack-st2kr]

Question from the oldest of Gen Z, what in Ukraine is worth fighting and dying for?

[@ValhallaVFT]

Nothing. But your government sure wants to send you there regardless.

[@MitchellBlack-st2kr]

@@ValhallaVFT gotcha

[@tonythetwitch5813]

​@@ValhallaVFTvalid

[@Azurie-e9s]

thats the price of being a hegemony

[@Jamhael1]

​@@ValhallaVFT why?

[@patgarrett9454]

It’s the electronic health records. Nothing else. Many people are trying to join but getting denied because they saw a therapist once when they were 8.

[@WelcomeToCalvinsChannel]

Question: what if you have been wanting to go special operations for a while and you are graduating 2025 and a war(God forbid) kicks off, they do draft before you graduate? When you graduate can you still apply for spec ops?

[@ValhallaVFT]

If you volunteer you can go whatever mos you want (at least how it worked during Vietnam with the last draft) my dad actually did that exact thing straight out of high school and went SF.

[@gavinbarrett-hayes]

100% on the video you sent. I just got waivered to join the Navy with a 93 on the ASVAB - it's taken me a year and a half to get those waivers. I go back to MEPS soon to choose my rate / choose my fate.

[@Leolanischpani]

Say if you refuse and go to prison could you join from prison?

[@Jv6932]

Do you think exchange citinzenship for military service is a good idea ? Like France do with his foreign Legion.

[@ValhallaVFT]

We already do that. I now abunch of n green berets that did that exact thing.

[@risky7165]

Citizenship in exchange for service has been a thing in American culture for a looooong time.

[@thePrussian]

I agree 💯 brother! That said, what camo pattern is your kit in the background? Looks like Multicam Tropical? I was considering that pattern when I was at the surplus store yesterday. I’m building a “catalog” of different uniforms for future “goals”. I decided on Black Multicam and ATACS-A. I have a lot of “greens” already. No Woodland tho…bad memories and regret with that pattern. 😅

[@ValhallaVFT]

Just regular multicam, it’s just new so the color isn’t faded yet.

[@b.p.stimemachines2327]

It seems that the retention problem, resolves revolves around the fact that all the soldiers were retaining just spent 20 years their whole entire career and one engagement

[@user-jl9xw2hq7x]

I know because i have been there. I was drafted in 1973 straight out of High School and was given a choice of which branch to choose from. I passed the Navy exam and served my duty in Europe. My brother was less fortunate, he was sent to Vietnam as a Tunnel Rat of CuChi. When he got back he was never the same. I give my blessings to all who serve and or will serve. God Bless America.

[@GooglePixelGoogle]

I do not think madatory service or a draft is a good thing. My father was stationed on the USS Albany CG-10 during Vietnam. He was with a bunch of sailors that joined to avoid in-country (Vietnam) service, or they were drafted. This left a deep enough impression on him that he told his three sons that he never wanted to see us join the military. He claimed that his ship was full of druggies and guys that didn't even want to be there. It made his time on the ship miserable, and he said the morale was very low.

[@ValhallaVFT]

You hear that same story from a lot of Vietnam era guys. Pretty common the draftees were a problem and got people and themselves killed all the time.

[@sakuyaizayoi1746]

If your father was a engineer rate or machinist mate, he may have known my grandfather on that old cruiser. Small world indeed.

[@Jamhael1]

​@@ValhallaVFT then why you want for people to serve AGAINST THEIR WILL?

[@TUGBOATMCMUFFIN]

When was fighting communism bad?😂

[@Jamhael1]

@@TUGBOATMCMUFFIN the moment that the US decided to deny the freedom of other nations to be Communist?

[@gabe_diaz]

Just curious, but hypothetically speaking, if we got invaded by a country or another mass terrorist attack happened like 911 or pearl harbor, would you reenlist? Also do you still have IRR time left?

[@ValhallaVFT]

I’m a 10+ year operational green beret, I’m going to be one of the first to get recalled lol.

[@Neutronism7]

⁠@@ValhallaVFTin a no combat role I assume

[@baconknightt]

Valhalla guy, agree with you 100% sime of the so called"toughest guys" literally froze up and refused. 1 Marines,1990, guy who always bragged about guarding The Commandant of USMC. AUGUST 15, SADDAM invaded Kuwait. Tjey pull us in, read a list of names to go to 1/7 (LtCol Mattis, BC). THAT GUY cried like a baby, refused to pack his gear, called his senator, etc. That wasthe last i saw him. He didnt go. 2. By 1998, got out,joined the USANG. (One guy, got hookedup with; jump, air assault, rope masters,nbc course,was set for ranger school when we got activated. I had tried for years to only get Air Assault. That dude froze up in an overwatch position guarding an ammo dump. Meanwhile i had 4 guys in my squad, that these so called awesome squadleaders didnt want. sure they werent physically outstanding, but they passed PFT. O got 2 of them up to expert 9n their rifle.One drove many missions up/down msr tampa withzero complaints. Another was so fckn motivated,if i asked him to get a water jug in the middle of the mine field, hed do it without question Dont watch what soldiers say, watch what they do. Everyone can be a great soldier in garrison. But get deployed, youll see the soldiers everyone said was 💩, working their arses off. While so called tough soldiers complaining about the A/C in their tent isnt good enough. And they cant get their xbox working.

[@austinshannon4197]

I was in the active duty U.S. Army for 8 years and only joined as a stepping stone for the civilian world. I thought it would be scary and hard. Let me tell you something. It’s not that scary and not that hard. It’s hardly like the movies. The movies only show like 20 percent of it. As a matter fact I’d say it’s equal with the civilian world, exactly equal if you include overall concept of life, in the civilian world you may still run into bad people, unfortunaly can still be murdered and may struggle financially, etc. the military isn’t that bad, trust me. People think a draft is literally the end of the world and literally think there life is downhill if drafted but it’s not. In fact I think the military is a great choice. Don’t listen to these people who say, don’t join, you die, you’ll get raped and won’t get justice, you don’t make much money, it’s all an urban legend. And like I said all that can still happen in the civilian world anyways. It’s not just about war, you play sports, you literally work out an hour a day Monday through Friday, it’s part of your job, you have to workout, you get 3 free meals a day, free healthcare and so much more. I wouldn’t say it was easy but it wasn’t hard either. It was average. I’ll be honest.

[@Donner906]

I have never run into more bad people and criminals than in the military. Military could be good but personnel quality is bad.

[@riclate2013]

If a draft happens and god forbid my number gets called up i hope i can get into small arms repair rather than a combative role. Honestly though, idk why you woudl ignore vets saying how horrible it is to fight in war. There are a large amount even saying that on this video, while sure the military can straighten out your life it comes with major costs. Was it good for people who were sent to the early years of iraq? Was it good for those in Vietnam. Gulf war who got gulf war syndrome? Is it good for those that have trouble adjusting now? Thats not something you can just ignore. If thats something you understand and are still willing to go then more power to you. I feel as though our biggest worry is were going to fight a major power in conventional warfare which is something we've never done since WWII and seeing war footage from Ukraine really shows that, no one in this world is ready for warfare like that. Personally if it cane down to it while i would be afraid as everyone is to go fight, id personally be fine with fighting rag boy rather than potato or rice boy.

[@ravenclangaming]

I wont fight for this country till im offered a better deal in regards to law and marriage. Currtently trying to get a business going that gets me money even while oversees since a tourist Visa wont let u work abroad. Worst case scenario ill tell them to send me to prison since ill still have my business and I can still write and draw while inside.

[@darylhopkins9796]

Spot on, brother.

[@Nuh0727]

Do you think the bill is being used to solve recruitment issues, or that the country is actually preparing for war? If so, where?

[@bandolierboy1908]

Not my war

[@senorbaguette2269]

I would rather go to prison than fight and die for my corrupt government.

[@ValhallaVFT]

Well you just might get to so have fun with that.

[@milostodorovic69]

Good luck with that buddy

[@kurtrussell5228]

Going to prison would actually be better than fighting ww3 with a near peer enemy, this isn't going to be an Afghanistan, Iraq or Vietnam......this will be bad......so yeah, show me my jail cell.

[@sierraoutdoorsurvivalandbu7825]

You’ve obviously never been to prison! Pretty sure you’d end up somebody’s toy.

[@GiacomoRavioli]

So objecting to illegal wars should result in prison? So patriotic, bro...

[@boyar3033]

Watching you from Macedonia, we had a conscription system during the Yugoslav period and also from 1990 to 2002. Then it stopped. Watching these events, I'm thinking we are going to bring back conscription sooner or later, because of Nato stuff. Btw, I'm gen Z. If I recall from some of your earlier videos, was your father a Vietnam Era green beret ? Also one more question: What do you think about martial arts, do they drill and install some discipline,bravery and combatativness ?

[@Cyd98]

Yes to martial arts, but all sports help

[@nasgonzo5]

When he starts the hand rub I knows he’s gonna drop some fire

[@ValhallaVFT]

😂

[@Rome52246]

In ROTC at my college right now, If I have to lead my generation into battle with the issues and problems we currently have there are going to be a helluva a lot of preventable casualties similar to how it was in Vietnam with Mcnamara’s draftees.

[@Rodri1969-]

I’m 26 right now I was an NCO for half of my time in and I think the end of my service where the newer guys coming in where just ate up . I dropped an application for ROTC in Boulder Hopefully I can commission but I do feel the future is gonna have really rough patches, especially if they force people to serve who just aren’t cut out to be in

[@Rome52246]

@@Rodri1969- We need mustangs like you with prior experience and hopefully you can help straighten out whats about to come in regards to Gen Z and the lack of discipline and drive needed to defend a country.

[@ElohimEssaim]

"Lack of discipline and drive" these problems have been around for generations. Nothing new- learn what it takes to motivate your folks and empower and you'll be alright

[@illuminated2494]

genz here, i told everyone it was coming lol i was ignored

[@Chaddron]

Me2 They Called Me All Types Of Sh!!!!

[@stephenhampton7444]

Bro i am Glad i am over the age the for the us armed forces i am 34 now and i tried to join in the army in 2008 but got rejected for medical issues and great video by the way!

[@ValhallaVFT]

Oh bro 34 is most definitely not over the age of there was a draft lol, you would 100% be in the pool and medical issues are almost all getting waved, they’d even pull my old retired ass back for sure.

[@ICALLBS-tb2kx]

Air Force is taking people up to age 42..

[@jwithersooon]

@@ValhallaVFT waived medical issues you say ;)

[@drwisdom1]

Conscription and the draft are the same thing - you are involuntarily joining the military. You can't be against one and for the other.

[@fredcasanova4944]

Gen Z here I don’t care about war at all I will go just let me put a cigar shaped blunt in my mouth before and after without being penalized ……

[@rj8183]

That woman part... EQUAL RIGHTS EQUAL FIGHTS😂

[@Honeypot_7]

As a woman who hates feminism, I 100% agree.

[@g-man2228]

Holy shit, can you imagine!!! As a Vet and retired LEO, this makes me smile….👊🏻🇺🇸

[@throng5092]

I dont even know if im eligible or able to even join honestly im 26 and i dont think they'll even take me

[@Paradiselost2802]

I'm all about serving had no problem doing it, not so pumped for my little girls,maybe a dad daughter thing Signed on my own free will if my girls want it then I'm all for it.

[@robertisham5279]

Gen z needs resist the draft like the boomers did during the Vietnam era.

[@robincordero3]

yeah because vietnam was not worth it dying for useless wars is stupid

[@TUGBOATMCMUFFIN]

​@@robincordero3when was it bad to fight communism?😂

[@robertisham5279]

@@TUGBOATMCMUFFIN They weren't fighting against communism. The war was essentially a Asian civil war for independence after decades of colonial type rule. Those who went to fight in Vietnam had a choice. To insist otherwise is a falsehood. The Vietnam war did absolutely nothing for American safety, security and freedom...win or lose. The war did nothing but waste American lives and treasure for 10 years. In reality, it almost tore America apart. The only winner in that war was the US military/industrial complex. The Vietnam war was a result of American imperialism and paranoia of Communism post WW2. Like I said earlier It was an Asian civil war...not a battle for the Free World. It had absolutely nothing to do with American freedom, safety and security. It's not as if the Vietnamese were going to invade the U.S. and enslave us under communism. They just wanted to be left alone. Truth be told they didn't give a damn about communism. Honestly, do you people think before you post such silly comments? The vietnamese were fighting for the right to self determination and independence. To the communism was an alien ideology and that's not what they were fighting for.

[@robertisham5279]

@@TUGBOATMCMUFFIN Because they weren't fighting against communism. . Vietnam did nothing to Americans or the USA. The war was essentially an Asian civil war for independence after decades of colonial type rule. It wasn't a battle for control of the Free World. Those who went to fight in Vietnam had a choice. The Vietnam war did absolutely nothing for American safety, security and freedom...win or lose. The war did nothing but waste American lives and treasure for 10 years. In reality, it almost tore America apart. The only winner in that war was the US military/industrial complex. The Vietnam war was a result of American imperialism and paranoia of Communism post WW2. South Vietnam wasn't a democratic state, it was a dictatorship. And they weren't all communists except maybe the top leaders. Many members of the Vietcong and NVA weren't communists. They were nationalists. That's what they were fighting for. To remove all foreign powers and for Vietnamese independence and sovereignty. In fact one villager in South Vietnam joined the Viet Cong after the ROK marines ( South Koreans who were our allies during the Vietnam war ) massacred his village and killed his family. That was what motivated him to join the Viet cong. To rid his country of all these foreign powers not to spread communism.

[@montagreloaded7586]

@@TUGBOATMCMUFFIN We lost against communism because leftists now run every legal institution domestically.

[@sriramb01]

I want to enlist in the USMC or in the Army as a Ranger (Option 40) but I have a hearing issue in my left ear and my best friend, she has full hearing loss in her right ear so we might be exempt although I will try to obtain a waiver. I’ve had knee surgery and physiotherapy so I might not be able to enlist or fight. Is this country worth fighting for anyway? Currently not. Service could reform our generation and make America great again.

[@soto9679]

I’ll go ahead and do it to end my misery, after the entire month of June has the worst month especially the massive breakups which I was one of the fallen ones that might as well go to the draft and end it

[@paleriderpublishing451]

Brutal reality is a lot of bad policies and a lot of bad self serving leadership led to our current predicament. The Afghanistan withdrawal was a disaster. I don’t like the idea of sending a bunch of teenagers fresh out of high school and college kids to serve as meat shields for a foreign conflict that most of our officers are Ill fit and undeserving to lead. I’m not willing to trade the lives of a bunch of borderline children for virtually nothing. Our so called leaders will reap the benefits and the those youngsters will have their lives pretty much destroyed. And if you think there is no chance of war think again. If they want to have an elite and efficient fighting force again start by cutting all the bs and properly incentivizing it

[@adamherrold9730]

How did you come to the conclusion of 8/10 gen zers aren't smart/fit enough?

[@ValhallaVFT]

It’s like 78%, I rounded up a few %. Majority of them can’t pass the fitness requirements, good portion of them can’t pass the intelligence tests.

[@adamherrold9730]

​@ValhallaVFT what's your sourcing? I find it hard to belive that anyone who has passed highschool or has a ged not being smart enough to join a basic mos

[@jaehongjun842]

@@adamherrold9730you have to pass basic training. I saw 20 people out of 140 people drop out because of mental, physical, and not being ready and those were people that MADE it past MEPS and Asvap and basic readiness. You’d be shocked at how many people need waiver to even enlist

[@adamherrold9730]

​@jaehongjun842 no he's saying 78% wouldn't even qualify to get there (basic training)

[@philliplopez1501]

There are numbers out there on recruiting over the past decades...but start by looking at dropping testosterone levels, dropping sports participation, and reading levels averaging 5th grade for high school graduates. I'll add that after covid there is a strong argument that the national average reading level dipped to a low of 3rd grade. There are plenty of other factors such as obesity, drug use, prevalence of child mental health disorders, etc. 20% passing rate seems overly optimistic. And sadly, the military went from inducting recruits who could pass the entrance requirements...to recruits who MAY pass the requirements with 6 months of training...years ago. People often look down on service members because they didn't choose college. In reality it is tough to qualify.

[@jamesofcordova]

It'll be a cold day in hell before they get my two kids...I'll sell the house and move the fuck out of the country first. 💯

[@MrBangen2012]

Just finished airborne school and can agree, a lot of the younger guys in OSUT throughout the battalion are quitting citing mental health and plain not wanting to do it. Pretty sad, not many just want to serve and protect the country anymore. Also many are out of shape, never played sports growing up, afraid of hard work/wont push themselves, and can’t pass the asvab. We have the program 09M for them and the ARMS 2.0 fat camp but still. I got an 80 on the asvab and joined the infantry, but I’m 26 with ambitions to join the SOF community and was fat 😂.

[@TheDrunkHamster]

This war would be nothing like the middle east. Even modern combat vets should admit this. Shit is absolute carnage in Ukraine, on a WW1 level

[@adamcheedlet4871]

I heard somewhere that the average life expectancy of a soldier in Ukraine is around 2 days

[@TheDrunkHamster]

@@adamcheedlet4871 yea man it's not even a comparison

[@arrBuh]

Add in drones that you cannot hide from.

[@TarsonTalon]

Thermobaric bombs don't really care how brave or skilled someone is, only how far you are from the detonation point...which has to be pretty far, because it ignites the atmosphere, sends out a pressure wave measured at about 120 atmospheres, and then creates a vacuum that sucks the air out of your lungs...and maybe the lungs themselves. It is not a blast you want to survive, because all your organs WILL rupture; there won't be shrapnel, you will just be turned into a human omelette.

[@chamberpot969]

Not doing it. This is the hill we'll die on.

[@montagreloaded7586]

Agreed.

[@Ea20002]

As of 2022, there were approximately 1,205,087 prisoners in the United States. This includes 157,314 federal prisoners and 1,047,773 state prisoners. Would this be an option? Maybe a dangerous one though? Can I get peoples insight to this?

[@R.W.Raegan]

The main problem I have with conscription: If a war breaks out, all the potential defense industry engineers are gonna be stuck fighting or fixing in the military instead of progressing military technology, and just becasue someone is college material doesn't mean they are officer material. So most of these college-material kids are probably just gonna enlist, and because of that, most of your engineers are dying instead of designing missile platforms or radar detection systems. So unless we made a specific department in every branch of the military for just designing weapons and selling them to the government, then we'd be 50 years behind our adversaries.

[@jeremiahwilson1255]

We’re not gonna make it, are we🚮

[@ValhallaVFT]

It’s not looking great but I have some hope we course correct

[@kurtrussell5228]

......no

[@jasonzacharias2150]

All hail Israel or else...

[@TarsonTalon]

Nobody is obligated to stay on a sinking ship, except the captain.

[@BLFranke]

I have three kids in that age bracket. They won’t draft my kids. Write it down. My kids aren’t going to war so politicians on both sides of the isle can launder money. 😊

[@cidcampeador7922]

Unless your kids are physically unable, your kids will be going and there’s nothing you can do about it. Write that down.

[@BLFranke]

@@cidcampeador7922 want to bet? Not everyone is a beta and allows their children to be indoctrinated or stolen. Just because you can’t stand up for yourself or yours and relies on big brother for protection doesn’t mean everyone else does. 😘

[@tonythetwitch5813]

​​@@cidcampeador7922but there is lol it's called saying no and having a gun? Yeh they have them as well but if we all die in the process no one gets anything ya know u mf government. Stooge

[@TarsonTalon]

@@cidcampeador7922 Yep...just a whole lot of...'nothing'. 🏴‍☠

[@chuckm869]

I went to join the army at 17. I qualified for any mos I wanted to do however I was DQ’d because of a problem with my ankle 😩

[@HollowJeff]

All my friends are tweakin out about this *me who just voluntarily enlisted 🤷🏾‍♂️* lol

[@christhelostsoul9927]

Im 18, i absolutely love the u.s military and i love collecting military gear and playing military simulators, I have major depression though and ptsd, and i have panic and anxiety alot, i couldn't and shouldn't be drafted and i have to take prescription medicine to function everyday, i'd just be a risk and a liability to my whole fireteam, i'd feel horrible if one of my fireteam members or squad members got hit because of me freaking out and having a panic attack

[@phakeplayer6228]

I don’t care how many times I have to say it. I’m not dying for Israel.

[@ValhallaVFT]

No but you will for Ukraine whether you like it or not if this administration doesn’t change.

[@phakeplayer6228]

@@ValhallaVFTgood joke man really got me with that one haha.

[@SCARFACE69247]

They used to send out a trifold draft card on your 18th birthday that you had fill out your personal information on and send back. I think you had a year to fill it out and if you didn't it was treated worse than if you got a felony. You couldn't go to college, you couldn't get a government job or work for a company that had a government contract, it would be very difficult to get a loan or to get a business license.

[@Ghost-pk4ns]

I’m 24 right now tried joining since 18 because I couldn’t pass the ASVAB. I will be starting fire academy August 6 to become a firemen. Will I get a letter for the draft or somebody is going to knock on my door to let me know more about the draft??

[@ValhallaVFT]

You should have registered for the draft at 18, technically it is illegal to have not done so. But if it were to happen you’d get a number designated to you, if your number got called, everyone with that number is required to report, or face being put in prison.

[@Ghost-pk4ns]

@@ValhallaVFTI appreciate sir🇺🇸I know many people don’t want to join it’s understandable too. But I’ll be ready 💪

[@alexchavez3244]

@@ValhallaVFTlot of people going to prison 😂💀

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

lol when the draft happens, you have to be dumb to think it's only going to be limited to gen Z.

[@andynorvell4953]

They drafted up to 45 during WW2..

[@Xyxesss]

I'm shipping off to fort Moore on August 27th for 11B

[@ValhallaVFT]

Nice bro good luck on your journey 🫡

[@kurtrussell5228]

HAHAHAHA they got you!!!!! You Moooron!! HAHAHAHA

[@GiacomoRavioli]

Womp womp

[@paulsharp3748]

You’re going to Ft Benning. Good luck pimp

[@Xyxesss]

@@ValhallaVFT thank you I appreciate it