2025 Overall LD5 Tier list & Where to Use + How to Build! by Seiishizo - Summoners War

[@potatomatop9326]

Nephthys doesn't need anything. Throw her some green or even white runes and she's ready. Maximillian needs cr, cd, spd, atk and some acc either desp, vio, fatal, rage or swift with will or blade.

[@zales6480]

That's right, com2us nerf Nephthys and buff Maximilian!!

[@satiricalsenju2159]

I appreciate you taking the time to make this thorough. Thank you as well for the time stamps.💜

[@ttibaramser1608]

It's incredible to see all the knowledge he has been sharing with us for so long

[@viktorgrabovski520]

Daniel is a fantastic Leo counter - guarantee to bring Leo to like 25% and you team can snipe him. Good vio proc, and having the reset, can help to turn the fight

[@Seiishizo]

actually good point yea

[@ugopiccardougopiccardo9273]

Normal arena: Jamire gany daniel + stripper. All tanky, all good acc. Stripper into atk bar reduction into daniel third skill into reset of jamire. The rotation melts any bruiser comp of the game. RTA is more tricky because you need to build a team around him and if he gets banned then you don't really have any true counter

[@컴씨컴싸]

@@ugopiccardougopiccardo9273 if you can force ban, it is already working bro

[@FauxyPoo]

Glad to see Zerath getting some respect. He's the type of LD5 that can make the game fun again.

[@zephytemps]

Was waiting for that Video sooo long xD Love your content and keep up the grind

[@StahlGenital-kl2rd]

wow did not expect to watch the full video but nicely done 👍

[@UnluckyDragon13]

It is very interesting seeing Seii's backgroud get darker aas the times passes

[@gameburrito2502]

Before you comment people, READ, its not a tier list just for RTA, relax, okay?😅

[@Boufifarlfilon]

Jessica should be immune to atb reduction and better strip chance. Destiny should have her s3 irresistible. Dark monkey should have spd scaling. Maya needs a complete rework. She needs to be reliable, but if she is she's broken, so they need to rework her kit.

[@zaleww5824]

Destiny needs to get additional turn after s3 like fire one getting atb.

[@kyubey991]

Glad, I pull Veromos yesterday. The one of the best ld5 that I have 👍

[@Play_time7]

As light ciri owner, I agree with you on her. Also use her in siege with tablo and bruiser in rta was very usable.

[@MatthewLai-f5d]

I came to check out the Dark Geralt, since I pulled Voldemort as my first LD 5 after 10 years. Vid did not disappoint!

[@karanokyoukai1680]

thank you for your work and waiting more videos

[@bordeaux1337]

I am having a lot of fun with Light Ryu and Eludia in Arena and Siege :) Eludia provides the def break you talk about :)

[@ethancarlson55]

Omg thank you for finally giving some love to my girl asima! Best armor break in game! F neph, f maxi! (No tanjiro) yeaaah bump her up to 85

[@ethancarlson55]

90!!!!

[@potatomatop9326]

@@ethancarlson55 so you know that dark tanjiro is the son of nephthys and maxi...

[@ethancarlson55]

@ :o

[@mateusbp2]

I summoned Nephthys later last year and she is just too good. I love running her with 100% resistance. It's very satisfying watching your enemy team lodead with debuffs

[@potatomatop9326]

@@mateusbp2 i now have mom = nephthys, dad = maximillian, son = dark tanjiro and grandma = asima hahahahahaha

[@Rain_Man3]

Know its kinda hard to rune but Zerath is also BIS for dragons just due to cutting out the turn shaina would have to take for cleaning the waves after Julie in most teams.

[@dirtymightmusic5239]

i noticed that in the current meta luci, leo, miriam, lushen can be used less and less because more fire units, etc. I tried using Zaiross, Leo, Lucifer, Aquilla and I am using this much more than the Lushen version these days. Probably 80/20 now for the Zaiross team. Even with a max acc build he hits for 30-50k depending on the unit with no def break which is enough to cleae most teams with the additional lucifer damage. You clear most teams similar to the lushen version but resets on stuff like psamas, etc. are great and for cases where a byung, giselle, etc. survives having them reset makes the cleanup so much safer

[@potatomatop9326]

@@dirtymightmusic5239 put woosa and darion then lushen and resurger. Leo luci dies in one second.

[@RoxzinGaming]

awesome tier list. Nice to have someone with so much knowledge and experience in the game.

[@bricksbyluci]

As a Dark Triss Owner I think she is even worse… you say she is good with Maxi, Neph, Dark Tanjiro. The problem is all these units have a def break but she doesnt really need a defbreak setup since she has ignore defense. She is just a worse Lushen. The only thing making any better is that you can hit fire units, but the setup she needs is just way to much for how little she does

[@picjojo8022]

with that setup she need you can use julie instead :D i really hope they will buff her, but i am sure they think she is good and with a buff she would be op. But there are dmg dealer like zaiross grogen and talisman... They should give her ignore def if full hp and gave her perfect ai so i can use her for my dungeon teams :D

[@SteadyIV]

Dark Zenitsu, I agree the dot addition to the passive is meh. However, the part of the passive that is incredibly strong is that he does additional damage based on Crit rate. His skill one hits incredibly hard as does his skill 2 (especially on lower target amounts) due to the Crit rate additional damage allowing a lot more speed and tankiness in the build without sacrificing damage 2:12:07

[@zaleww5824]

Spd cr hp with 100cr and all stats build will work so well on him I think. Imo people should build zenitus on tanky build for passive and s4. They have guaranteed kill enemy under %30 and other skills are mostly support and good multipliers on it.

[@SteadyIV]

@zaleww5824 this is my exact build on vio/will cycles skill two so quickly. Using him with wind zenitsu they hand around for a while and stun everything until it's time to execute

[@lsik231l]

I love my Zerath! Sped up my farming teams and made arena fun again. My new siege offense is Zerath Dark Tanjiro Tiana. I have Nephthys, but use her with bananaman/Poseidon. Haven't decided my rta comp yet, but I want to build it soon. My other lds: YH, Giana, Pater, Herteit, Bella, Dark Twins, Leona, and Qitian Dasheng. I'd use Dark twins with Zerath, but s3 is inconsistent.

[@urtigaao]

I always say that Lora and Neph are the most versatile LDs in the game hahaha

[@red_dll]

Yes, finally my boi Zeratu gets a good placement!

he mentioning pairing zeratu with taranys? Correct me if I listen wrong, I dont know what good to pair with Zeratu

[@red_dll]

Yes, with the wind druid for example.

[@Dnice-h3w]

Hertiet with the right team around him is awesome in RTA

[@ugopiccardougopiccardo9273]

Nice job as usual.

[@Lazycats01]

Yeah dark triss needs too much setup for what she does, if i can guarantee 2 debuffs like with tanjiro, i'm pretty much always inclined to using another nuker like zaiross.

[@potatomatop9326]

Thank u for talking about dark tanjiro. I love that guy.

[@picjojo8022]

yeah just give her ignore dmg if full hp and she would be awesome

[@pokeychunogueira6113]

Just got a pater, thx for the build ideas

[@Seiishizo]

is mentioned at the timestamp of pater

[@aaklaj]

What a great day to see my only ld5 at tier 65 😢

[@katestrada4966]

Appreciate your effort making these videos and sharing your knowledge which is really helpful

[@dodomannmann9957]

i wish i would get dark specter princess and zerath so much, since i could then play some funny craka, light robo, dark specter princess rta cleave style

[@Nemo_Doko]

I would actually argue that because Vero is f2p, he should gain more points rather than getting reduced point.

[@urtigaao]

It feels good to have the top 3 ones 😁

[@turokk17]

So i got lucky, proudly owner of Lora and Velaska!!

[@WonderLover475]

As someone who has dark Geralt as my only ld5, I'm not great at the game, but in f3 rta he's actually useable. Most of the time the team looks something like: Dark Geralt, Jeogun, Jamire, Chiwu, Charlotte. Jamire and Charlotte should also have a bit of damage incase Geralt gets banned. (Chiwu should also have some cd) It isn't good, but atleast I can sometimes use my ld5. I also made a siege defense with him, which once again isn't great, but it works once in a while. It consists of: Seara (As leader for speed lead), Jeogun and Dark Geralt.

[@zaleww5824]

Geldnir martina shaina with both twins on super fast tanky vio with soem attacks is great siege offense team. You can pretty much auto it to win. I love my geldnir he just makes sure team survives basically and 33 speed lead is the best thing ever

[@VictorDominguez-b1l]

Great work man! I was wondering if you can explain a bit that cadiz defense?

[@Seiishizo]

twins ren cadiz. ren could be fast ren could be dmg. and then just bit of dmg on all 3. lots of pushbacks and they cant guarantee outspeed.

[@inventorofsalt]

as Pontos owner...I recomend to try him with odin for offense :) Odin loves the buffs and with atk buff from a riley or something...he just snipes while being protected :D Ive started on a 2ld5 beginner account on global (eu too sweaty for a smurf :D) Jager and light pony...lets see if I can make that jager work haha I plan to pair both ld5 with angela or something and try to create an unseen but good AD. Probably hard but people rune jager way too squishy in my opinion...ur right spd/crit dmg/hp and a lot more defensive stats maybe even high res with angela res lead... is probably the way on vamp+nem

[@kaeseheld]

cant believe narsha is anything better then 55. She is literally a crappy nat3 kit of fire monkey. they are the exact same monster but narsha is just unusable worse.

[@Seiishizo]

she needs pretty insane runes to work. and firemonkey is not for siege def usable :P

[@realpongking]

Some LD5 are so lackluster it is salty. Take Salah for example, Dark horus gets 25% atk bar boost when enemy’s turn ends, Salah gets 20% after attack AND he has to land a stun too. 😮 Made me question whether am I lucky to pull him at all.

[@kilianx9410]

1:54:10 I use ritesh, Euldong and vela as a siege off in g2, insanly compatable

[@katyprarie]

Yeah I've been happy with Wolyung Asima Tiana and Zaiross

[@Khoalabare]

What the zerath PC (punisher right?) team? Does he just replace Julie in the Liam Sonia Patrick sieq team?

[@Seiishizo]

correct

[@Khoalabare]

@Seiishizo thanks, no Liam but I'll try to build something. I have the 15s zerath team so I'm hoping it's already good enough for pcah

[@xenigma1414]

1:23:30 gurkha underrated af. All you need to do is put it next to a racuni.

[@luisa3447]

Douman gets banned 99% of the matches I draft her but when she gets through she misses s3 with 84 acc…

[@lem3676]

I sadly doubt that even with mugwol beelzebub would be usable since he would be insta Banned most of the time

[@zeroanime01]

how would u rune light inosuke? A dmg dealer or more of a spd unit tht need to move first or maybe a despair stun unit? I hv kiki,bella,zenisek as well and i dont know how to build them properly or where to use them..

[@rikarikarikarika]

do u think an ultra-slow berghild could work in rta ? since she gains so much atb every turn

[@Seiishizo]

in a bruiser comp? maybe not sure, could be a thing just add cr/cd on it

[@westinfeltz5944]

Where is Jack at? Did I miss that one?

[@Seiishizo]

dark yuji

[@harelnasimi544]

Wouldn’t Lora on ad better with Despair? Since she can’t really boost atb? I imagine pairing mine with Byung/Rakan/Bellenus while on swift and I can’t understand how will it work well…

[@Seiishizo]

swift is nice so its near impossible to outspeed, 120 base on swift with 33 lead + something has to followup on her

[@oAyyJayy]

Crying seeing my only lds so low (Hanwul and Beelzebub)

[@PlebGod-fj5ve]

me casualy watching builds for units i ll never have :y:

[@greenfiregum]

My Hanwul and dark Triss are so disappointing… Both are AO units that are worse than lushen.. They both need too much set-up and give not enough pay-off.

[@TrevenButler-y5k]

YeAh hanwul is good but high maintenance Mon

[@picjojo8022]

celestara with neph, maxi and dark tanji feels useless because they gave already def break. you can use a better dmg dealer with those. she is just bad and needs a buff

[@Seiishizo]

true a fire tris giving branding is actually more interesting, but she can miss

[@picjojo8022]

yeah i use her but she miss a lot. it feels really bad and i always think i should just use lushen

[@LuigiLissandra]

That always happens with me. Last year Laima was on a good spot, and when I summoned her BOOM she's automatically mediocre. Damn that also happened to me with some normal elemental nat5's, like 1 day they were meta, the next day they're not even used(or rarely used). I can think of a lot. Karnal, CP, Dominic, Savannah. Omg they were pretty strong back then, then the meta changed. Man, why don't I get these stuff back when they were powerhouses 😅😅😅

[@Jake-yv7xb]

As a Laima owner, I can vouch she's unplayable now. Maybe niche if I'm not being harsh while stupid GIANNA getting buffed

[@왈숙-r6y]

좋아요 눌렀습니다 I click thums up!

[@M4Klee]

Gz on the tian lang

[@troymoviemadness7130]

Amazing list

[@zolly9919]

Good to see that iam not the only one who thinks my 2 lds (Mi ying & Benedict) are pretty shit.

[@nicolojacobtiu8365]

Thank you.

[@aodirary]

it is funny that you think Isis 65 not mention her 100% ban rate in rta.

[@Seiishizo]

she's not used much, and too inconsitent for landing. and ban rate is about 40-50% not 100 hehe

[@tlkfanrwbyfan8716]

She really needs to have her Oblivion be irresistible and Silence be resistible. Crazy that an LD5 can become completely useless with just a res check.

[@aodirary]

@@Seiishizo Everytime I pick Isis against cancer comp, she is banned 100%. Funny that I didn't even put runes on her. and she still got banned. I think she is really 80~85 score instead of 65 just because she is the best 5th pick

[@bruhfunny3d641]

My account is Herteit, Ariana, Salah, and Ritsu. Pls pray for me this balance patch

[@slickwoo2904]

Feel like Herteit can be made so cool and way better, give him like bolver passive that he gains 1 stack every turn if i has less than 3 or even gain stacks when the enemy gets buffs

[@lukasprieskorn4383]

Zerath in PC?

[@lukasprieskorn4383]

What is PC? 😂

[@Seiishizo]

punishers crypt

[@TrevenButler-y5k]

Hey so . Easy g1 method Just farm for legendary runes . Build your mons And buy reapp stones . Stock reapps not scrolls . And just work each legendary rune on each rta Mon 1 at a time . Easy g1 for pay 2 win players

[@bird4028]

"Last year in 2014" xddddd

[@Paoko37]

I play my Lucifer with Zerath was funny.

[@omersahin2325]

If you put Laima at 65, I don't think you know the game very well.

[@youngchhyky9563]

Gz Ld5 🎉

[@jph3945]

got my first ld5 last week, isis after 10 years... i hate her

[@crkTyphoon]

tbh, if you have a guaranteed def break, instead of a Zerath, Zaiross or Kaki will just do better, as they are easier to rune and can still deal the same amount of damage (or Bael too for that matter, who also comes with additional DOTs). imo Zerath is extremely overrated.

[@Seiishizo]

zairos/kaki aren't useful for defense. neither are usable in dungeons

[@crkTyphoon]

@@Seiishizo was talking about offenses, siege/arena. their damage there is on par with zerath in most cases, which in my opinion makes him quite overrated. not to mention alicia, the queen of ao

[@Seiishizo]

nice team for zerath that you cant really do with the others is gemini kabilla leo zerath.

[@crkTyphoon]

@Seiishizo hmmm can fit zaiross or bael in with likely similar or same results. but tbh, I think that might actually make for an interesting video in itself. comparing those ao units against each other in the same team, vs the same def. see what runes are needed for the same results etc

[@NeosDany]

Nephthys is far beyond 101, she is infinite, even blue runes absolute garbage stats and she can perform, Lora with the same would be absolute garbage.

[@Seiishizo]

well good thing its not that hard to farm purple runes. and as mentioned early game has lower value for ld tier list in my opinion

[@NeosDany]

​@@Seiishizo I've been farming the whole year (2024) Giants and didn't get a single +24 swift so I am able to say that purple useable runes can be as hard to get as a nat 5 LD.

[@jettrue91]

i'm sum nephthys to day

[@hongjiahao7661]

U know the list is shit when u don see giana at the top top list … the first pick no brainer LD giana in all tournament and top rta players …

[@flitzism]

LIT

[@StoteFarus]

Its funny how you consider Nephtys "100" while Obabo would give her "80" or even lower

[@Seiishizo]

its not just an RTA tier list. thats why

[@clabbest.c1208]

I hate Woonsa, he always disappoints me. I also dont believe his strip is 100% (aka 85%), since he always misses 1-2 Units(ofc always the important units). he gets countered by Moore, Verde, Nemesis, does absolutely nothing after his S3 (S2 dmg is a joke, even on CR DMG )

[@j.p.4199]

I have Ritsu, Rahul and Light Nobara 😄 Hot take : LD monsters should be slightly better than best of normal element of family, if not keep buffing!

[@lennartbromsen5441]

👍

[@giseleb2059]

Ragdoll is extremely hard to rune early game. Even at mid game. You are overestimating runes lol

[@컴씨컴싸]

he said he doesnt even care about early game. and if you cant rune ragdoll well, what else is there you can do? make him slow tanky and get some damage. slow units are always easier than others

[@Seiishizo]

i rerune accounts of all kinds of rank on weekly base. and i would say ragdol is EASY to rune. simply cus he doesn't speed that much. hes only had to rune if you sell all your bruiser runes and only focus on spd which some people do :P

[@sb5732]

No spd, acc, res, def needed. How is it hard to rune?