21 Trinity Problems

21 Trinity Problems - Imad Awde

Рет қаралды 3,492

Imad Awde

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 112

@paulgriesheimer447 Ай бұрын

The mountain of evidence proves there is no trinity. Very well done, brother.

@Imadawde Ай бұрын

Praise God. I'm glad you were blessed by the message

@margaretshaw4407 Ай бұрын

❤. This teaching was knowledge to me and I understood. Thank you.

@Imadawde Ай бұрын

Praise God

@HarminaTierney Ай бұрын

This is fantastic. Really good. Thank you.

@Imadawde Ай бұрын

Glad you like it!. Praise God

@filipejoaquimpenete9346 Ай бұрын

Amen.@@Imadawde

@terrymartinez8489 Ай бұрын

A wonderful presentation. Thank you so much.

@b10mom39 Ай бұрын

I have never thought of that...if the Holy Spirit was a person and came over Mary then Jesus was the son of someone else not the son of the father.Now that alone shows the Holy Spirit is the spirit of the Father and not a third person...wow🎉

@Imadawde Ай бұрын

Exactly right

@rickcasual Ай бұрын

right....thats how it is already understood, the Holy Spirit is God (gen 1:2), the Father (who is a spirit john 4:24) is God, and Jesus is God (john 20:28). Gen 1:1 the Father, Gen 1:2 Holy Spirit, Gen 3:8 Jesus Christ is God in the flesh walking in the garden looking for Adam and Eve. They are all one. John 1 (1) in the beginning was the word (Jesus), the word was God, the word was with God, (14) The word was made flesh (still Jesus, still God). John is speaking to Gen 1-3. We who are saved receive the spirit of God (Holy Spirit john 7:38-39). Thats the trinity. This comment is like a mental backflip, if the holy spirit was a person? who thinks that? thats not trinity doctrine whatsoever. Nobody who believes in the trinity thinks these are separate beings.

@alanhales6369 Ай бұрын

b10mom39 the Bible and the Biblical Hebrew and Greek clearly teaches the trinity and puts a distinction between the Father Son and Holy Ghost. You unsaved antichrist's quote Deut 6: 4 not knowing that it proves the Trinity. You are blinded by the spirit of antichrist that's in you..

@Carpenter173 Ай бұрын

@@alanhales6369 I think you’re the one that is blind, stop calling people names, that is not The Christian way.

@alanhales6369 Ай бұрын

@@Carpenter173 unlike you, I'm not blind I have the Holy Spirit of truth in me to reveal the Biblical truths.

@patsda6405 Ай бұрын

And it makes more sense for Jesus to be our comforter because he lived on earth as a man and was tempted as we are.....

@alanhales6369 Ай бұрын

@@patsda6405 Jesus isn't the comforter He said He 2nd person singular will pray the Father 1st person singular, and He (The Father) will give you ANOTHER comforter. 3rd person singular. The Biblical Greek meaning for "ANOTHER " is, NOT Me but one just like Me". THREE distinct persons in the ONE God.

@patsda6405 Ай бұрын

@@alanhales6369 John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 16:7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I (Jesus) go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you, but if I depart, I will send him unto you." Matthew 28:20..."lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." John 14:18 "I (Jesus) will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." (Christ is the Comforter. Christ is the Holy Ghost.) Romans 8:26 "Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered." John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" (If the Holy Spirit is a separate person apart from the Father and Son, does that mean there are two ways to the Father and two intercessors?) “It is the SPIRIT that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing; the words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life.” CHRIST is not here referring to his doctrine, BUT TO HIS PERSON, THE DIVINITY OF HIS CHARACTER. CUMBERED WITH HUMANITY, CHRIST COULD NOT BE IN EVERY PLACE PERSONALLY; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, GO TO HIS FATHER, AND SEND THE HOLY SPIRIT to be His successor on earth. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS HIMSELF DIVESTED OF THE PERSONALITY OF HUMANITY AND INDEPENDENT THEREOF. HE WOULD REPRESENT HIMSELF AS PRESENT IN ALL PLACES BY HIS HOLY SPIRIT, AS THE OMNIPRESENT. (Review & Herald, April 5, 1906)

@patsda6405 Ай бұрын

@lucianacleaningservices2229 Ай бұрын

Amen 🙏

@jmrdrgz Ай бұрын

Oldie, but goody.

@nathanarneaud5666 Ай бұрын

Question for the trinity. If God the father didn't exist, would god the son and god the holy ghost be??

@MrDavesincavage 2 күн бұрын

it is very clear to me that you seriously like hearing your own voice on dvd's. MOST of us read faster than you do bro

@Grace7be7with7you Ай бұрын

God bless his truth in our hearts. There are more than 21 points against trinity. Please put the other 1000x1000. ..

@jruthbarclay Ай бұрын

Amen!

@christopherfaustino8318 Ай бұрын

Biblical truth...

@beyond.gardening Ай бұрын

I am only 60 years old and have known all my life that God is not a trinity but an expanding Family, starting with His Son. The Holy Spirit is God's (Father and Son) Spirit. It is by the unity of the Holy Spirit that one becomes ONE ❤

@ericzahn4691 29 күн бұрын

The best witness is the furniture in the temple, the table of show bread, there's two stacks one for the Father and other one Jesus an none for the spirit.

@danielsuba5660 Ай бұрын

Amen

@ksgraham3477 Ай бұрын

When you invite Jesus into your heart, it is the holy spirit which fills us, I believe, because 1 John says that the Holy Spirit testifies to our salvation.

@RalfBiermann777 Ай бұрын

There are even more problems with the doctrine of the trinity. It is not logical, so it breaks the commandment to love God with all your mind. Illogical things can not be comprehended by the mind. Mark 12: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

@emilyvanhaausen3728 Ай бұрын

Not to mention God is not the author of confusion. Yet the Trinity is confusion and I don't know any Christian who has made a good case for it.

@victoriawright7412 Ай бұрын

There is nothing logical about God. You cannot find out God by being logical. One of the major problems with people nowadays is that they approach God and the Bible with logics. God is above logics and you cannot put God in your logical box. That's why you cannot understand that there is a Godhead the Father Son and Holy Spirit distinctly but of one God.

@RalfBiermann777 Ай бұрын

@@victoriawright7412 You can believe what you want to believe.

@victoriawright7412 Ай бұрын

@@RalfBiermann777 no I do not live by that crazy maxim. I live by " I believe in the Bible and the Bible alone, not by every whims and fancies and other peoples opinions. I am not gullible. I study the scriptures for myself so that when false teachings like this raise its ugly head I am covered and quickly can identify it."

@RalfBiermann777 Ай бұрын

@@victoriawright7412 Yes, true. I used to think likewise. But don't you think that the Father would have told you about the Trinity more in detail, if it was true? I can only tell you that God loves you so much, and likewise his Son Jesus Christ, that there is no room for a third person, which Satan would like to fill if he could.

@ksgraham3477 Ай бұрын

Lightbulb moment: Maybe blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the trinity doctrine. The diagrams and the 60° angle 666 is astounding!

@joelchirchir242 Ай бұрын

Christ says the HS comes "IN MY NAME" i.e. to represent Him and do nothing of His own. Therefore Christ is in us but by the HS who transfers all the merits of Christ to us, including the power of comforting us through obedience. "He shall testify of Me" implies that the HS is a separate Being from Christ who couldn't send Himself to represent Himself.

@danielslot89 Ай бұрын

Don't keep silent.a

@MrDavesincavage 2 күн бұрын

Why don't you put this in a book with full soteriology bro. NOT much time left for you to do this

@ksgraham3477 Ай бұрын

Jesus didnt lay down an eternal life. He gave that up to be a human to die as a human and be the firstfruit of the ressurection promise.

@paulrajeshkumar5461 Ай бұрын

Read Mathew 28:19

@Imadawde Ай бұрын

Please watch this video in which I address this verse kzbin.info/www/bejne/onaQiWhsebyffLcsi=YPbzCR9UA092Luay

@SuperSushidog Ай бұрын

If Jesus was not God, then we have no hope of salvation because it took a perfect God dying for our sins was to redeem us. No mere mortal could have paid the price for sin. It took a Holy God to ransom us. When Jesus asked who He was He said I am the great I Am. Jesus was the God they worshiped who appeared as the burning bush to Moses. It was his finger that wrote the 10 commandments on the stone tablets, which is why He drew on the ground with His finger. He is the very Ancient of Days, The Alpha and Omega. Jesus and our Heavenly Father are manifestations of a single God, just as ice, water and steam are properties of the same substance, H2O.

@bewise7466 Ай бұрын

Can God die?

@SuperSushidog Ай бұрын

@@bewise7466 The mortal body that the everlasting Spirit of God was residing in did indeed die. "For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.” John 10:17-18

@bewise7466 Ай бұрын

@@SuperSushidog this is a bit confusing... So it was the Holy Spirit inside of the Human Jesus?

@SuperSushidog Ай бұрын

@@bewise7466 God the Father is a spirit. "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 4:24 There is also the Holy Spirit which is the third person of the Godhead. This is the Christian trinity - a single God composed of 3 parts. The Father is God. The Son is God. And the Holy Spirit is God. They are 3 distinct beings but one in mind and purpose to make one God. It is difficult for the mortal, human mind to grasp this concept, but it is the truth that God has revealed to us about His holy nature. Though the word "trinity" is not in the bible the bible gives us clues to God's triune nature, starting with the Hebrew word for God, Elohim, which is plural, not singular. Another verse that informs us of God's triune nature is, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. "The Word of God is Jesus, who was both God and together with God." John 1:1-2 Here we see 2 separate beings who are both individually God and together God. Further, Genesis 1:26 says, "Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness..." The word "our" is used twice which indicates there are more than one being who make up Elohim. One must read the bible prayerfully and study it carefully to understand it and be able to accept its teachings as true, regardless how incomprehensible its teachings may seem to mere human understanding.

@RalfBiermann777 Ай бұрын

@@SuperSushidog There is only a Babylonian Trinity, not any Christian Trinity.

@TJM-q7c Ай бұрын

As a born again Christian, I can tell you the Holy Spirit (to convict my sin), the Father drawing with his Spirit, and Christ the atoning power of his blood, that the trinity not only exists, but is necessary for true Salvation in Jesus Christ. You are in error.

@MildrenObare Ай бұрын

Have understood trinity and what it is.. study the scriptures and understand the personality of God. Check out for example Eph 1: 3,17 & 1cor 8:6

@joelsamuelellishancock9286 Ай бұрын

You believe the Holy Spirit is a separate person yet, in Ivirit/Hebrew the Ruach haQodesh translates quite accurately to: the Awareness Dwelling Within, that Surpasses All Understanding. The Father is Spirit and the Father is Holy. YHWH is the Ruach haQodesh. The Father is the Awareness Dwelling Within that Surpasses All Understanding.

@johnjohnsick6421 Ай бұрын

What Scriptures do you use to prove your faith?

@joelsamuelellishancock9286 Ай бұрын

@@johnjohnsick6421 all of them

@sylviamanring9975 Ай бұрын

You cant see oxygen Yet you breath.

@marcusvanrensberg6060 Ай бұрын

Jesus christ is the glorious NAME of almighty God who became flesh and dwelled with man. Jesus christ is not a separate God, but the glorified lamb/body of God, and revealed NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME IN THE HEAVENS AND earth 🙏 The son of God is greater the body of God as the sacrifical lamb of God who is the salvation of mankind.

@victoriawright7412 Ай бұрын

The Holy Spirit moved upon the waters it states in Genesis 1:2 The earth was without form and void and the Holy Spirit moved uoon the waters. It may not have mentioned the Holy Spirit actually played a distinctive role at creating mankind etc but His presence was there. So this teaching about the Holy Spirit not a part of the Godhead is erroneous.

@ShellbieB Ай бұрын

Trinity- you can’t keep the commandments of God or the testimony of Jesus Christ (doctrines, his voice, the faith of Jesus). The Trinity is the foundation for all their man made doctrines- off of it stem Spiritualism and Sunday Sacredness

@sharontucker921 Ай бұрын

Vs 22-23. Judas saith unto *Him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that *Thou wilt manifest *Thyself unto us, and not unto the world? Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love Me, he will keep My words: and My Father will love him, and *We will come unto him, and make *Our abode with him.”

@trentevenson8988 Ай бұрын

The temple has 3 parts, like a family. 3 different roles for the 3 of the Godhead. The whole universe is in 3s because of its maker. 3 primary colors, 3 parts of matter, 3 parts of dna reproduction, etc. So the Godhead is the primary temple that everything reflects. Then the next level is the Godhead, heaven, then creation. Each has a role. Mater is made of sound and light, giving us matter. Father, mother, child. Sun, earth, life on earth. The temple system is everything and is in 3s. So this anti Godhead doctrine comes from not understanding the Bible at all.

@RalfBiermann777 Ай бұрын

You are mixing paganism with biblical teaching.

@trentevenson8988 Ай бұрын

@RalfBiermann777 your words are meaningless. You don't know what paganism is, nor what Christianity is. Try reading your Bible. It's all there. If God's original people understood the temple, they would have known who Christ was; the same goes for those who think they are his current people. The Godhead is the temple, there is a verse that literally says God is the temple. There is literally a verse that says we are the temple. You literally do not know your bible. Stop commenting until you have something beneficial to say. You literally added nothing but an ignorant attack.

@JPH4886 Ай бұрын

I'm 20 min in, You have said Jesus is Christ: check You have said Jesus is Begotten Son: check. NT KJB says Spirit of God AND Spirit of Christ, it says Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost. Word is personified in scripture, so is Wisdom. Holy Ghost was often personified in NT. Isnt language unable to describe God? The plan of Salvation is indescribable, can words describe how the Spirit can enter the physical? 🤯 My observation: so many can refute the Trinity, but very few offer a solution to it. I think Spirit of God, Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit etc are the same. But I think the Spirit of God entered the physical realm and became Jesus, was begotten. God is Spirit, Jesus is now with God as a Spirit. I think the Trinity is falsely misunderstood, but I also think that Biblical unitarianism also misunderstands Jesus and lowers him, and he is equal although he lowered Himself, (phil 2), but became the head of the corner, (1 Peter 2:7). John 17 prayer is clearly saying Jesus is one with the Father

@Imadawde Ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment. If you are interested to study this topic deeper, I offer a free online course which you can go through at your own pace. You will find it on this website: Www.Imadawde.com

@situn9126 Ай бұрын

This person is talking nonsense, when he start with logic, then he fail to acknowledge the power of God. How can you understand God when we all are not creater but we are created being. Jesus address the father as He, and when Jesus address Holy Spirit as He also. Jesus teach us to baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

@Sketchup-fe6ef Ай бұрын

God showed me that Jesus is not God, It really is very simple. Acts 2:22 clearly says Jesus is a man approved by God. They totally ignore these verses and jump to John 1:1. I always ask them, Does God have a beginning, they all say, "No God does not have a beginning". So I say, explain John 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was God. It clearly says God has a beginning. It take a bit of time for it to sink in, That the word is not God, or an entity, It is Gods intent and purpose. Did you know that even Jesus is not an entity called the word. Jesus is only the word of God, because God was speaking to us trough Jesus. Jesus express the intent and purpose of God to mankind. Jesus represents the fathers will to man, through his words and character. That is why he is the express image of the invisible God and is called the word. In the old testament the word came to the prophet, that prophet was the word of God to the people. The word was and still is the message of Gods intent and eternal purpose to the people.

@victoriawright7412 Ай бұрын

Which Spirit showed you that? The people are saying there is none. But we are either influenced by the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of the devil. The Spirit that speaks against the truth of the Bible and says Jesus is nit God is from the same being who fought against Jesus in heaven and was thrown out because of that same belief he was perpetuating in heaven now doing the same thing through his followers mankind. Sad that people can be so gullible as to believe these deception and lies.

@Sketchup-fe6ef Ай бұрын

@@victoriawright7412 Why don't you refute the scriptures I quoted rather than give us vague preconceived ideas.

@Sketchup-fe6ef Ай бұрын

Sound teaching but are you born again?

@michaelbruce9197 Ай бұрын

The truth is this. The Trinity is not taught or explained anywhere in the Bible. Jesus says his God is our God.

@sylviamanring9975 Ай бұрын

What about the baptism of christ ? What do you do with that?

@victoriawright7412 Ай бұрын

And the the fact that Jesus says he had to go away to send the Holy Spirit. They are making Jesus out as a liar and a confused person which clearly He is so clear about what He said. These people are being used by the devil himself with these strange doctrines straight from the pit of hell.

@michaelbruce9197 Ай бұрын

@@victoriawright7412 I thought Jesus prayed to God that he would give the Holy Spirit to the apostles. ????????

@victoriawright7412 Ай бұрын

@@michaelbruce9197 It shows you are not studying your Bible read john 16:7

@ericchambers1382 21 күн бұрын

This is total nonsense, & heresy

@noonekennedy1282 Ай бұрын

Point 1. God did not write the Bible to us today, but Men wrote it to men in the first century. Got it. Point 2. The men who didn't recognize their own messiah understood the nature of the oneness of God. Got it. Rev 1:11 SAYING, I AM ALPHA and OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST: Rev 1:18 I AM HE THAT LIVETH, AND WAS DEAD; AND, BEHOLD, I AM ALIVE FOR EVERMORE, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Rev 1:8 The Alpha and Omega is the Almighty. Rev 1:11 The Alpha and Omega is the first and the last. Rev 1:17-18 The first and the last is he that liveth, and was dead; and is alive for evermore. So the Alpha and Omega is the Almighty, The Alpha and Omega is also the first and the last, and The first and the last is he that liveth, and is alive forevermore, and who is that? Jesus! Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace. Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD.---John 1:14 And the WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. In the Peshitta 2nd century AG and quoated by Tertullian (c. 200 A.D.) Cyprian of Carthage (c. 250 A.D.) Athanasius (c. 350 A.D.) Priscillian (380 A.D.), Idacius Clarus (380 A.D.), Jerome (382 A.D.) Theodorus (4th century) Gregory of Nazanzius (4th century) Eucherius of Lyons (434 A.D.) Vigilius Tapsensis (484 A.D.) Victor Vitensis (484 A.D.) Eugenius at the Council of Carthage (485 A.D.) and many more. Jesus Christ is God Almighty, if you don't believe that than you don't believe the Bible.

@aussierob7177 Ай бұрын

In the Bible the Father is called God. The Son (Jesus )is called God, The Holy Spirit is called God. Jesus said before Abraham was I AM, people were going to stone him for claiming to be God. The Trinity is one. we do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the consubstantial Trinity. The divine Persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire The Father is that which the Son is the Son that which the Father is. The Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, that is by nature one God. In the words of the Fourth Lateran Council "each of the Persons is that supreme reality, viz,the divine substance essence or nature. When Jesus was on earth, he did not use his divinity. In order to read and interpret Scripture correct you need the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, otherwise Scripture will remain a "dead letter". The Divine Persons are really distinct from one anothe.r God is one but not solitary. Father, Son, Holy Spirit are not simply names designating modalities of the divine being, for they are really distinct from one another. He is not the Father who is the Son, nor is the Son, he who is the Father, nor is the Holy Spirit he who is the Father or the Son. They are distinct from one another in their relations of origin. It is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten and the Holy Spirit who proceeds. The divine unity is Triune. The divine Persons are relative to one another. Because it does not divide the divine unity, the real distinction of the Persons from one another resides solely in the relationships which relate them to one another. In the relational names of the Persons, the Father is related to the Son, the Son to the Father,and the Holy Spirit to both, To deny the Trinity is to deny the very existence of God.

@michaelbruce9197 Ай бұрын

What page and number is the Trinity explained and taught?

@victoriawright7412 Ай бұрын

@@aussierob7177 amen sound reply. People nowadays are so gullible. And they are not studying their Bibles for themselves.. The moment a smooth talking preacher burst on the scene with another doctrine they vacilate easily and are taken into their teachings. What a travesty!