2143 Generator Secrets

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[@willhibbardii2450]

Great demonstration, Robert. I've spent countless hours with coreless coils manifesting electricity employing permanent magnet flywheel rotor development. To pass on the secretes of what I've learned and gleaned from permanent magnet rotor flywheel and coreless coils is comprehending that this is biased pulsed energy. I think you will discover that stacking two turntable open coils with the start of the coils facing each other (Split single-phase arrangement) and configuring the magnets all North or South will facilitate three times the wattage... I hope you demonstrate this in a future video demonstration. Thank you for sharing...

[@Kangsteri]

I have been saying that: more voltage is less resistance. For 10 years. Usually people just think I'm some free energy woo weirdo and put more metal on their generator. Not even thinking about how much Wimshurst on pulse motor could generate. This is what Gerard Morin also tried to explain.

[@yasirrakhurrafat1142]

LoL. How much do you think tho the voltage should be? Let's say for a 30kg worth of copper coil, permanent magnet motor? Cuz I think too high of a voltage would be difficult to manipulate and manuever. And the returns become diminishing at a certain point anyways. Though I concluded the same for motors/generators as you.

[@johnschneider931]

Lol Tesla wanted to initially use 800 volts to maximize the reduction in copper and mass. Say what you want about their Apple like software motes, the engineering is top notch.

[@Kangsteri]

@@yasirrakhurrafat1142 The issue seems to be that all people are looking for something portable, or at least movable. The HV really isn't that much of an issue. MrTeslonian has a good video about HV step down transformer. It's basically a regular Leyden jars, with tunable copper wire coils inside. It's really not that much about the voltage either, high frequency seems to be more essential. Like the switch mode power supply works. It all depends on the usage. The key thing is to make good charger and have cheap fast charging hybrid battery capacitors, or both in parallel.

[@yasirrakhurrafat1142]

@@Kangsteri ooh yeaahh! I also thought about motors, as how mini motors.. given enough voltage.. wouldn't require much power/current, thus could potentially push motorbikes and stuff at a really low weight. Although it'll need ultra high quality bearings, and sufficient cooling. Same for generators , considering a speed up gear is used to multiply the input speed. I will need to look up though about frequency. I used to kinda hate AC current.. now I see the utility. I also think that reducing deadzone of generators will result in higher energy output, per size/weight. Also as you mentioned, frequency.. to a good extent.

[@ericmc6482]

​@@johnschneider931Louis Rossmann disagrees.

[@user-hf3ym7lh4d]

Even with the mechanical imperfections and only having a single coil, you should get way more than a watt out of that arrangement. I think the magnetic flux was mostly being pulled into the steel wheel away from the coil, and also the coil being close to twice the size of the magnets was causing adjacent magnets to cancel each other as they pass the coil.

[@marcfruchtman9473]

Ah, yes... that was exactly what I was thinking as well.

[@vorgon]

You can use odd number of cored coils vs even number of magnets or vis/versa to reduce cogging also. I've also read that using a ferrous sand for the core can work better then solid or plate iron.

[@victoryfirst2878]

Great video Robert. What you are doing idea wise is the same way as the idea I had for making a killer generator using the old style hit and miss engines of old. I would bet you that you could make a killer generator using that very idea. I hope you run with the idea fella. Would bet that is the direction for you to use with that idea. Good luck as the old engines are super efficient and have longevity which is an added benefit for your idea. Peace vf

[@davestalker5458]

Hey Robert! I love your videos. They always get me thinking about the darndest of things. You mentioned coreless were easier for the flywheel because of the lack of magnetic effect on a core. But what if you got rid of the magnet and used an electrostatic generator instead? Like a Wimshurst or a holtz?

[@WHYNKO]

5:07 it seems the flywheel is facing some resistance... The sound it makes is telling that there is friction at just one point of contact... Hence it also slows down quickly.

[@ronwilkes4763]

Hi I just heard about Hydrostatic bearings seems like this would be a good frictionless bearing for one of your wind projects

[@colrodrick8784]

It was very interesting Rob

[@JSabh]

Forgive my ignorance if I am way off here but, would alternating cored and coreless coils, using the coreless as a sort of direct torque application to the flywheel while the cored coils produce the usable current help? I suppose making the flywheel larger would compensate.

[@gregbloch80]

What if you had a coreless setup on a wind generator and used a movable core to control rotor speed? I'm thinking of a limited number of coils and a few actuators to move the coils. Or maybe making the magnets move by something like a flyball governor?

[@wakeUPdummies]

I dig your bike crank rig

[@hydniq3327]

Let the truth be told . Great video . RMS .

[@richerathernotsay427]

You should turn the "Fly Wheel Generator" into a kit for High Schools. Interchangeable parts to demo different configurations and resulting performance(s) then add some Arduino (volt, rpm, etc.) this will segue to the Computer Science, Electronics, Physics and Chemistry Departments culminating in a holistic education and a run-on sentence. IMO, a holistic education is how we're going to survive the future.

[@dremaboy777]

I completely agree. 👍🏽

[@TheWorldBelow360]

I’ve been working on near the same. I put soft iron plates on the outsides of the pickups and wouldn’t ya know it, the voltage nearly tripled. Something I’m sure has been done before.

[@fightswithstairs6292]

Would a bent iron core that goes round the wheel reduce the cogging friction? That'll be fun to coil

[@nonsensicalnonsense4260]

Could you use a simple magnetic accelerator then put a long spring inside that the accelerated metal would push against, which turns a gear to your flywheel. then have the flywheel used briefly to nudge the next accelerator into place?

[@andrasvajtho4664]

Uniwheel! Interesting mechanic. Maybe it is usefull for you guys!

[@carlwilliams7232]

Why does it make that ungodly racket slowing down? I think your freewheel is a bit knackered! As this is my first comment on one of your videos, I don't want to come across as un-constructively negative, so I have to add that I REALLY like your no-nonsense, clear-thinking approach to stuff - I first ran across your videos when I watched your stuff about gravity cells, and subscribed straight away. That was a couple of KZbin accounts ago, but, well, still subscribed :-)

[@marcfruchtman9473]

Thanks for the video. What were those indentations on the surface of the armature core laminations (but only on 1 side)? Thanks for the very cool information about "coreless"... that's awesome.

[@michaelshultz2540]

Those were drill out pips to remove a bit of metal to balance the rotar .

[@marcfruchtman9473]

@@michaelshultz2540Ah for balance... that makes a lot of sense... thank you very much.

[@MrBrelindm]

You could also use differently shaped and polarized magnets arranged as a Halbach Array which increases the magnetic field by restricting it to mainly one direction (the direction of the pickup coil) so in effect, the magnetic field intensity can be boosted. Boosting the magnetic field intensity as it cuts across the coil will induce higher potential and more current from the same coreless pickup coils, so still no cogging but increased power output.

[@AdamBechtol]

Whoah, facinating. Neat, thanks for sharing.

[@ecoista1373]

If the array is spinning outside it's just dangerous imho

[@silverpc4611]

with a core you can reduce the speed for the same output as a coreless.

[@marcfruchtman9473]

I am a bit confused... How is the current being commutated in this design? It's hard for me to read the Scope... so I can't tell if this is supposed to be AC or DC?... Re: the low amp production, could the low amperage of this design be due to the diameter of the coil such that the opposite ends of the coil are overlapping the magnets so they are fighting each other in a "differential" manner rather than in an additive way? It's hard to say... the wheel is pretty big, so it almost looks like 3 magnets N-S-N could overlap the entire coil, and fight themselves.

[@andrewnowakowski9052]

I wonder how this arrangement would work on and Archimedes screw.

[@toml.8210]

If you could get a belt of magnets, they I could stretch it over the wheel on my exercise bike, which I generally pedal at about 27 MPH (40 ft/sec) and I could probably get some good volts or watts from it. I even have a spare aluminium rear wheel without a tyre in it, so it would be perfect.

[@bobcostas9716]

It ain't rocket surgery. Stretch a cut down, punctured tire tube over magnets that you've hot glued to your aluminium wheel. There you go. If you don't know what I mean just picture cutting away the part of an inflated tire that contacts the ground. Basically a giant rubber band, but exactly sized to your wheel.

[@allenhargis4317]

What effect would adding more magnets to the outside of your blender motor have on its efficiency?

[@MaxBrix]

The best answer I have come up with is: Imagine an infinity powerful magnet next to a conductor. Electrons would not be able to pass. If the magnet power is a really super high finite quantity electrons could pass but it would take a lot of power and the torque would be huge. More work is done with greater field density requiring more power. On the other hand if there is no magnet or a super tiny one electrons pass freely with nothing to push on and very little power is needed. As far as efficiency. No magnet is the least efficient. All the electricity passes without being used. As the magnetic field gets stronger more of the energy from the electricity is used because the field is what transfers the energy so it is mor efficient..

[@travismoore7849]

What happens if you put a super capacitor under the magnets?

[@portugal1969]

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[@SumNumber]

So one unit of a much bigger size and efficiency would work fairly well ? When you were spinning the monster up it reminded me of Eric Laithwaite and his TV presentation of the flywheel in action. Thanks for the share . ( You might try picking the unit up and swinging it over your head when at highest rpm . Not sure if that would help in the output but sure would be funny to watch ! ) :O)

[@Cryptic_Triptych]

The most efficient way to create, or transform energy from one source to another is through concentric spiral induction, vortex structure.

[@SumNumber]

@@Cryptic_Triptych It seems to work well...hmmm !! MAGICI ! :O)

[@Cryptic_Triptych]

​@SumNumber I guess it's magic, to those who don't understand how Nature works. It would appear to be magic, or it could just be magnetic and dielectric.

[@SumNumber]

@@Cryptic_Triptych Magnetic and dielectric . What are we thinking here ? Free energy ? Of course there will always be some kind of reaction , no matter the scale , when an action occurs so..nothing is free is it . :O)

[@Cryptic_Triptych]

​@@SumNumber Electricity is a byproduct of Magnetism and Dielectricity. If you don't understand that basic concept, I suggest that you review the principle theories laid out by C P Steinmetz. For the practical applications I suggest starting with the patents of Nikola Tesla. He was a huge part of why we have almost every single piece of modern technology. There is no such thing as "free energy". However, there are more efficient sources of energy which Corporations can not regulate. Three examples would be Photovoltaic, hydrodynamic and wind. Another example is Atmospheric, as in Telluric and Ionic. The devices required to collect the last two sources have been built, but as Eric Dollard and John Hutchinson can attest to, as well as reading the life stories of Hermann Plauson, Viktor Schauberger and T H Moray. You can clearly see "The Hidden Hand" does not take kindly to those who would disrupt thier control game. I could share my story as well, but YT likes to intercept my posting of factual evidence.

[@1dandandy1]

Have you tried using inductors as coils?

[@Cryptic_Triptych]

Capacitance induction.

[@chehystpewpur4754]

can you tell me something? ive been debating on ordering some enameled wire but i have like 300 lbs of larger gauge copper wire. some is 10ga some 12-14 and some large but its way too big. its not enamled but it is insulated with the rubber which could be stripped in spots. i know alot of people say conflicting info and i trust your opinion you just like messing with stuff like i do. i have a bunch of motors and things ive been playing with trying to get a reasonable useage camping generator with out huge space or fuel cost/noise. amps is more what i want than volts but i do know there is going to be a need for both. but a few amps goes a long way when the charge source only needs to see 12+v yes i know i can get used solar panels and for around 200 bux have 450-500 watts of charge and around 5-20 amps but their big bulky and fragile.

[@gaiustesla9324]

Since the relationship between matter and the fields coming out of matter are one thing, it leads people to think that somehow all energy can be "captured" by a piece of matter that can only occupy a singular part of the field at any given moment. "free energy" would mean you could somehow have a little bit extra energy than there is energy that exists.

[@Cryptic_Triptych]

There is no energy in matter other than what it receives from the environment.

[@gaiustesla9324]

@@Cryptic_Triptych What you on about, matter IS energy. You can't have matter without energy but you can have energy without matter.

[@Cryptic_Triptych]

@gaiustesla9324 would you like to argue with Nikola Tesla? Induction resonance comes from outside of matter. That is to say, it originates from beyond matter. It originates from the noumenal (non physical). The first phase state of matter is plasma.

[@gaiustesla9324]

@@Cryptic_Triptych err no im apparently arguing with someone paraphrasing a genius they dont understand....matter is made of atoms...atoms are made of subatomic particles....the fields are coming out of that. The fields ....interact with the very thing that produce them....... the matter they're coming from...... the "space" between "matter" is the FIELDS coming out of the matter ....pushing or pulling itself..... MATTER creates space...because 2 pieces of matter cannot occupy the same exact space at the same time....because THE FIELDS COMING OUT OF MATTER CAUSES SPACE. e.g there is ONLY energy, matter is just condensed energy, all the forms are dervived from the same, one and only thing.. All energy and its limited. There is no "outside" of it. The only separation is due to language, its actually 1 thing but has different words to point at different parts. just like SPACE = ENERGY and TIME = THAT ENERGY MOVING. Space and time are one thing....energy. NOT 2 THINGS.

[@lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269]

What about an aluminum core?

[@MrBrelindm]

Instead of just one pickup coil, wouldn't the power be multiplied by the addition of more pickup coils added around the wheel?

[@EvrttGrn]

It should increase depending on how you wired it. I think in series it would increase the voltage but in parallel it would increase the amperage. I could be wrong though.

[@ryanbeard1119]

If there are many pickup coils, won't it be that much more difficult to drive?

[@johnschneider931]

Both replies are true, if you think like mechanical power transmission, each coil is another pulley multiple pulleys gather the energy from the flywheel faster.

[@MaxBrix]

All three of the above are true

[@jamest.5001]

What about the modified rotors where the motor has an output while running. Seems it was (UFO POLITICS) that built those. Seems they completely rewind the armature as well .its been years and years since i even thought about these motors.. DO YOU BUY WHAT THEY ARE SELLING,? THINK IT WORKS??

[@robertkehlerjr.8258]

Could you use a copper core instead of a metal core, yes I know copper is not attracted to a magnetic field on its own but could it produce the eddy fields and amplify the magnetic field “like a magnet being dropped onto aluminum “ to create a stronger magnetic field around the coil ??? This should get rid of the cogging and hopefully create a stronger magnetic field in the coil.

[@johnschneider931]

Could be wrong but I think copper would have different probabilities of its atoms lining up in the direction of the magnetic feild , they use eddies of magnetic Fields to move chunks of aluminum off a recycle conveyor belt because they cant just use a magnet. The same is probably true of copper.

[@marcfruchtman9473]

Typically the current in the copper that is induced by the magnetic field will "oppose" the original magnetic field... so, it probably would lead to loss. That is why a lot of effort is spent to reduce eddy currents... (It also reduces heat to get rid of them too).

[@tonyhill8300]

Its an armature

[@justtinkering6713]

Here

[@TeamStevers]

Cut those fingernails Robert. I bid you good day, sir!

[@redred-bb4fs]

rx18 Antonio romero energía gratuita

[@simonmasters3295]

Bloody hell Robert you do the volts and amps and dont even tell us what they are, just saying its 1.2 Watts compared to 30 Watts with the tiny motor! Granted no cogging with one coreless coil but 24 would surely have higher mechanical resistance than one...even if there is no "cogging" as such Finally, if you teach this as one side of the sine wave is a magnet approaching the stationary field and the other is departing from the same stationary field, then isn't it evident how the This is more "generation at the rim stuff" and at the rim means more turns, thicker copper and heavier current are more practically engineered.

[@100roberthenry]

if you could rig up a way to get the power out to turn magnets on and off in series, or use you mechanical magnet on /off switches........hmmm just thinking aloud mate...need more coffee.....:)