I repair plaster walls following a full electrical re-wire of my house. I use Thistle Bonding plaster and Gyproc Easi-fill to get a smooth, professional finish ready for decorating.
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@willkndy5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thanks a lot. One tip so the screw holes on the back boxes dont get filled in with plaster - put screws in them before plastering.
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Good point that. Sometimes it's easy to miss the simple things. ATB, Des
@myk_islive647110 ай бұрын
Honestly every electrician worth their weight in salt has a screw hole tap that they’ll just tap through the plaster. It’s not that big of a deal I see it all the time
@alanhughes76235 жыл бұрын
Good to see you taking the bonding out of the back boxes, simple yet very effective way of avoiding more repairs after sockets, switches, etc have been screwed back up again. Thank you from a spark who used to repair tracks himself.
@grahampayne85714 жыл бұрын
I find that it's easier to remove excess bonding from backboxes after it has set. Just a quick go with a knife does the trick.
@yannisinasia5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You can try stuffing the boxes with newspaper and plaster away without worrying of getting the mud in the boxes.
@mariad41833 жыл бұрын
...great tip!
@alexdevonport93774 жыл бұрын
Just a few tips make your job easier wait for the gear to stiffen up a little before cutting your boxs out as it cleans out alot sharper edge and you can skim bonding the same day as it gives a better Finnish as the coats push into each other making it Easier to join to the original plasterer and 1 last thing do everything in two coats go round all your chases with a coat inset a little then allow them to pull in slightly then second coat it as this will reduce the risk of cracking in the drying out period. Hope this helps someone have fun .
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Excellent response my friend. Thanks for dropping by and for taking the time to watch and comment. Best wishes, Des
@williamdwane30954 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you help. No PVA was the problem. Thanks a million. Good luck to you 👍
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped my friend. Good luck and best wishes to you and your family Sir. ATB, Des
@manfromthemist195815 күн бұрын
many thanks, you made that look very easy, I will try some of your tips tomorrow as we've a whole house to rewire and scim,
@21stcenturycaveman3314 күн бұрын
Good luck with that. Just follow the steps, read my response to any comments and you should be fine buddy. Des
@1414141x5 жыл бұрын
When I fill in chased out runs I fill with bonding plaster like you have done but I let it go off more than you did before I scrape out the surface a few mill for the finish coat. I find once it has gone off a bit more you don't need to be so careful with the scraper. I also stuff the back box with loose paper and put a piece of masking tape over so that there is less chance you get any plaster in the screw holes.
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
That would work great also. Best wishes, Des
@pjmbidge6320005 жыл бұрын
You don't need to do that any Spark worth his salt will have a thread cutter to ream out the lugs if necessary
@dermotcullen52634 жыл бұрын
Paul Marshall and any plasterer worth his would clean out the boxes while it’s still wet. Two second job that saves filling broken bits around the edges.
@Disc023-ps6le4 күн бұрын
Cleaning the socket box out like a real plasterer should do. As an electrician I have no issues with smashing all the muck out with my claw hammer to make sure the plasterer needs to return if he fouls my work by leaving back boxes full of muck. 👍🏻
@Icanmakeit3437 ай бұрын
Thank you. Wish I'd found this sooner - I've made a pig's ear of filling some of the chasings. Not part of my current skill set to date. Live and learn...
@strummer66429 ай бұрын
Brilliant video, clear and covers everything on wall chases, surprisingly few vids like this out there. Thank you!
@21stcenturycaveman339 ай бұрын
Much appreciated! Thanks very much. Des
@strummer66429 ай бұрын
No worries, I have just used easi fill 60 on the chases, about 25/30mm deep and they went off after one application.@@21stcenturycaveman33
@daveaitken923 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for spending the time to go through this so clearly.
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Des
@user-ps1wf1hr8k6 ай бұрын
Excellent and very simple how to plaster .thanks pal.pva glue..and thistle bond then plaster thanks pal
@21stcenturycaveman336 ай бұрын
You are very welcome my friend. Best wishes, Des
@orbitalforest5 жыл бұрын
Spray bottle might work for the PVA if thin enough. Nice vid.👍
@grahampayne85714 жыл бұрын
PVA tends to clog the spray nozzle.
@SteS4 жыл бұрын
I use an old red sauce squeeze bottle. Works perfectly.
@zaimhazmin88513 жыл бұрын
wetting prior to plastering. thats new to me. thanks for the knowledge
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍 If you dont pva before plastering the existing dry wall will suck out moisture from your new plaster causing it to shrink and crack. Des
@justlaugh66345 жыл бұрын
Great job mate, thanks for sharing 👍👍
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
My pleasure buddy. ATB, Des
@mariad41833 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Always learning from you! Thank you for sharing!
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Best wishes, Des
@mactheman87975 жыл бұрын
Cant knock British Gypsum... good job!
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. Des
@user-rj7ux3bv6i7 ай бұрын
Many thanks, mate. Splendid video
@21stcenturycaveman337 ай бұрын
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it my friend. Des
@lukehelpmetakethisdangmaskoff Жыл бұрын
An HVLP is great for your PVA. It will blow all dust and debris out as well.
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
Hi there. Yes, they would work but simply not practical or cost effective for the DIY'er when you can just use a brush, roller or cheapo spray bottle purchased for a couple of quid. Best wishes, Des
@anelectrician5 жыл бұрын
You only have to isolate the one circuit you're working around which isn't a lighting circuit. Good upload never the less !
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. Best wishes, Des
@ConnorMckelvie19904 жыл бұрын
Lol 👍
@ConnorMckelvie19904 жыл бұрын
He does well for being a DIYer good work Des 👍
@michaelstevens34794 жыл бұрын
Wow thats progress for you,the making good is more costly than the wiring.I have a problem Oh what is that madam I have had some wiring done Yes? well there is a lot of damage but the electrician said he does not do making good.
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Interesting point that. Most electricians won't repair the plaster work but they can normally recommend someone who can. Whilst it may be inconvenient that the electrician can't do the plaster work as well I think it's actually a bonus. I've seen so many electricians attempt to 'make good' the plaster work and make a complete mess of it. If I were you I would keep them well away from plaster and stick to electrics which is what they know best. Just my thoughts mate. Take care, Des
@Bubbles-qm8lq5 жыл бұрын
good job looks brilliant
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Very kind of you. many thanks. Des
@harrycurtis660910 ай бұрын
Great video thank you for doing it. I've got to do some soon, what the reason for why you're reducing the plaster in the chasing area. Thanks again for the video!
@21stcenturycaveman3310 ай бұрын
Hi buddy. This may or may not be necessary depending upon how you're going to finish off the wall. 1. If you're going to skim the walls then no point whatsoever. Just fill in with Bonding plaster, flatten and lightly score surface ready for skim coat. Job done. 2. If papering or painting then it is absolutely necessary. Only by applying a lighter, top coat plaster will you be able to get a nice smooth and flat surface which cannot be achieved using the bonding plaster on it's own. Basically, reducing the plaster chase allows you to put a thin layer of a much finer top coat plaster (the Easifill) to finish off the chase. This plaster is very easy to work and will give a lovely smooth finish with a wet trowel. It is also very easy to sand with a fine grit paper to get it really flat and smooth to reduce lumps and bumps which will clearly show where the chase has been repaired. Hope this makes sense. Any further queries please get back to me. Des
@adamdavidkenyon66643 жыл бұрын
Hello great video! I am going to try and fill in two chases myself but I need to know how to do the PVA. Do you do one coat of PVA let it dry for 24 hours then another coat let it go tacky before bonding? How long do I need to wait for the PVA to go tacky? I am looking to use filler over the top of the bonding coat and sand back to a smooth finish. Many thanks!
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Hiya buddy. If you're on a normal plaster background then do it on the SAME day. Do not leave 24hrs unless youre going over a very shiny, moisture repellent background, such as, walls or ceilings painted with a shiny, slippery paint like vinyl silk. This is because the nature of this sort of finish is to wipe over and it will take hourse for pva to soak in and get a proper bond. So .... 1. Apply first good coat of pva consistency like milk. If it soaks in and dries quickly eg 5-15 mins then suction is high any you need a second coat of pva to control suction or the old plaster will suck moisture from new plaster, cause it to dry out, become weak and potentially crack. 2. Apply 2nd coat when first starts to dry but not when bone dry. 2nd coat will also gi e you more time to work plaster before it starts to set. 3. Important: do NOT let 2nd coat dry out before plastering. Apply plaster when tacky so both eventually dries out together givong much stronger bond 4. Do filler plasternext day or later but apply pva again in above manner to control suction. Plaster as required and sand accordingly. Best wishes, Des
@adamdavidkenyon66643 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Wow thanks mate! That helps a lot! Awesome channel Des, keep up the great work! much appreciated!
@adamdavidkenyon66643 жыл бұрын
Hi again Des, I have got also some missing bits of plaster around the sockets backbox holes where the sparky didn't quite cut straight. Can I use bonding plaster to replace the missing gaps to rebuild the square holes up again? It's not all the sockets but a few have some gaps missing going alone the straight edges of the back box opening. I was thinking of dabbing pva in these gaps and then pushing bonding upwards to fill the gaps with a small filling knife to force the plaster to fill, then shave off proud bits from the front of the wall where the socket hole is so that the plaster is flush and then go over with filler next day/sand when dry, not sure if i have to wait for it to go off then shave it off proud with a trowel/scraper edge. With the PVA, if I got a plastic cup, filled one cup of pva and three cups of water, whisk it together. The room had been replastered but obviously the plasterer didn't or couldn't fill along these gaps due to poor chasing, most are good and square but just a few where the brick work got small chunks taken out so couldn't get the back box openings nice and square. The suction I have been told is high on the backgrounds i have in my house. Cheers!
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
@@adamdavidkenyon6664 Hiya buddy. Sorry fopr late reply - been very busy. Definitely use Bonding plaster to fill in the gaps / holes and push in using fine blade as you have suggested. Doesn't really matter if you shave back when wet or dry but probably best when a little firmer - your choice really. Then build up with finishing plaster when dry and sand if necessary. Sounds like you're getting the hang of this and understanding the process which is great. Only difference though is make PVA a little bit weaker on high suction background - 4 or 5:1 AND don't electrocute yourself! Best wishes, des
@adamdavidkenyon66643 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Heya mate, sorry for the very late reply! Been very busy! I really appreciate all your help and thanks for the answers. I bought some Thistle Undercoat plaster from Toolstation and some Everbuild bond PVA from Amazon. Got an old chase in my kitchen unused so will practice on that first. Haha will try not to electrocute myself! Best wishes Adam
@haroldsj85483 ай бұрын
Isit a must do to cap the cables? Because i gota fill a few chases but theres very little depth and no wide enough for the caps, would u recommend to use electric tape instead?
@simonloveless892411 ай бұрын
Wonderful Work Indeed.
@21stcenturycaveman3311 ай бұрын
Very kind of you. Thanks very much. Best wishes, Des
@simonloveless892411 ай бұрын
So How Is Work Getting On With You May I ask?
@21stcenturycaveman3311 ай бұрын
All good thank you my friend. Best wishes, Des
@GARDENER422 жыл бұрын
Save time & money on taping the sockets - one dog poo bag & elastic band will keep them clean & you get to reuse both.
@21stcenturycaveman332 жыл бұрын
That's a very good idea and one I've since considered myself. Best wishes, Des
@philipsudron3 жыл бұрын
Hi...I found this very interesting because I need to fill in a rectangular area of 24 x 10 cms. But in this case it's central heating pipes near a radiator that have to be concealed. The pipes are plastic except where a plumber had to do a repair job using metal nuts etc to join a new piece of plastic pipe. (the damage had been caused by drilling during a recent Broadband upgrade.) Grateful for any advice.
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Hi there. If it were me I would make sure that the metal nuts are wrapped well in duck tape to prevent corrosion. That should do it imo. ATB, Des
@philipsudron3 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 thanks...yes I had wondered about the potential corrosion possibility. On the other hand I'd also thought the presence of the new metal nuts might alert a future engineer's scanner should similar work was ever needed. But hopefully a scanner would 'hear' through both the new plaster and the duck tape.
@london_roubenl3 жыл бұрын
Good job, nice work 👍
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@yensabi5 жыл бұрын
Nice job , if possible always do your bonding and filling and even the painting before 2nd fixing the switches and sockets as it makes life much easier , if you have to put them on then buy some really cheap £1 jobbies and use them temporary until your finished......
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Sound advice for sure. Thank you and best wishes, Des
@DerekHundik5 жыл бұрын
That what i do. Got a bag full of 2nd hand white stuff and I use them on each job. Those painters...
@OthmanAlikhan2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video =)
@21stcenturycaveman332 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for taking the time to watch. Des
@nickl82473 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Des
@9999prozac5 жыл бұрын
Looks good 👍🏼
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly. ATB, Des
@huntergatherer89726 ай бұрын
I notice that you have put in quote a bit if plaster into a deep chase. On the instructions for the gypsum it says to only do about a centimetre and layer it up in a couple of goes. Do we have to do layers? or is it Ok to add 2 or 3 centimetres of plaster at a time? Dies anyone know?
@21stcenturycaveman335 ай бұрын
Hi there. I can absolutely assure you that multiple layers are not required unless the cavity is very deep in which case you're probably better off using something like sand and cement (i.e. mortar) which is inherently stronger. Providing it's a thick mix and not too watery to make it slump you'll be absolutely fine. It may just take a little longer to dry out if it's a thicker application. Don't fret. It'll be fine. Des
@huntergatherer89725 ай бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Thanks mate. Much appreciated. Enjoying the videos!
@huntergatherer89723 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Gave me the confidence to have a go and it turned out ok.
@drcl7429 Жыл бұрын
if a chase has been filled flush only with bonding by previous owner is there anything that can be done besides hacking it all out and redoing it with a top coat? Sanding that stuff is almost impossible.
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
Hi there. Assuming it is Bonding plaster that it has been filled with it shouldn't be too difficult. Get any strong wallpaper scraper or an old chisel and simply scrape back 2-3mm of surface layer. Once you've taken this back it can be easily filled with a fine finishing plaster. If you're unable to scrape it back then it's not Bonding plaster and you'll need to try something else. Hope that helps, Des
@drcl7429 Жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Thanks for replying. I assumed if I impacted it the whole thing would just crack and crumble
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
If it's Bonding plaster - no, it'll be fine mate, Des
@miggy19775 жыл бұрын
Get a small whisk plastering is hard enough on the elbows as it is
@joshuacornes99574 жыл бұрын
Quick question, and it may be a stupid question, but would you let the PVA dry before you apply the plaster?
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Not a stupid question at all. Do NOT let the PVA dry. Apply the plaster when it is TACKY (I.e. when it gets sticky to the touch). Reason? This creates a better 'chemical' bond between new and old surface. ATB, Des
@alexhiggins7307 Жыл бұрын
Cheers for this! 👏
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Des
@paulp44523 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. I am wondering if it's obligatory to put the cables in conduits for protection, or can I just run the cables in the chase and plaster over? I can see the benefits of the additional mechanical protection but is it a regulation requirement?
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Hiya buddy. Apologies for delay in responding. It's not mandatory here in the UK but it's best practice. ATB, Des
@shuhel023 жыл бұрын
PVC capping is so inexpensive, you might as well install it.
@paulmorrey7334 жыл бұрын
Great tips Thanks
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Des
@macneil883 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Would you still recommend taking the filling back 3mm if the whole wall is going to be skimmed over?
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Definitely not. No point whatsoever. Hope this helps. Des
@gmoney16642 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 good video, much appreciated and the answer to the question that I was wondering too 👍
@JohnPooley-te9ei5 ай бұрын
Nice1..Century & thank u
@21stcenturycaveman335 ай бұрын
You're very welcome my friend. ATB, Des
@cwuzii Жыл бұрын
How long does it take for the pva to go tacky? I have about 10 of these to do after the electrician has moved and give me some new sockets, so a lot to do. Wondering what’s the best way to approach it, do I mix a small batch and do it chase by chase, or mix a massive batch and get them all at once? Ie pva them all, then go around filling them all, I’m just not sure how long the pva will take to go tacky, I might have enough time to get them all done and comeback, or could be too long and gone dry. Same for the filler, might go off.
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
Hi there. Great questions. The time it takes for the PVA to go tacky depends on the suction on the wall and the room temperature. I'd say check it 10, 15 and 20 mins with finger tips. If it goes tacky quicker than 10 mins I'd put another coat on which will help to control excessive suction which will dry out your plaster too quickly. Then check again per above instructions. Just PVA all of the chases in one hit. Do NOT mix up a huge batch of plaster and attempt to fill all chases in one go. The plaster will definitely go off and harden before you're able to use it. If I were you I'd mix up enough plaster to do one chase at a time. You may find that by the time you get to the latter chases that the PVA has already dried out. Don;t worry about this. Just dollop another coat on and continue plastering when it goes tacky. Try not to stress about it. It's not an exact science. Don;t put yourself under pressure. Take your time, follow above instructions and try to enjoy it. You'll be fine. Best wishes, Des
@cwuzii Жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 thank you very much for the reply and information Des! I’ll do the smaller batches. Odd question though, it might sound stupid. Once I’ve emptied the bucket, the small pieces of plaster left over will have inevitably hardened, how do I clean the bucket and tools to keep the hard pieces from going in the new mixes? And what to do with leftover plaster? Sounds odd, but when I did some tile grout for the first (and only) time, I had some left over and nowhere to put it, so I left it to harden in the bucket along with the cheap float knowing I could just bin it without needing them again. This time though the trowel and things will be handy again in the future so I can’t keep binning stuff haha, but at the same time I can’t exactly put leftover plaster down the drain or in the bin! It’s got me stumped! 🤔
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
Hello there. Absolutely not a stupid question at all. A very valid one actually. Any plaster which hardens should always be scraped out and thrown away. It serves no use whatsoever and will contaminate any new plaster batch you knock up. For small batches, you can trowel straight from the bucket, apply to surface and then scrape out and dispose of any hardened plaster in bucket and start over again. This will work well for smaller batches. However, with much larger batches, you will need to mix up plaster in your clean bucket, remove plaster and place on a board or something to work from and then clean your bucket out straight away ready for the next batch. As you go along you must have some clean fresh water in a 2nd bucket and a brush to frequently wash down your trowel to keep it clean and prevent debris from spoiling new plaster. Summary: 2 buckets - one for mixing plaster, one with fresh water for cleaning down tools as you go along. Also, at the end of every job, always clean your buckets and your tools. Always make sure you dry your tools properly or they will rust. I normally dry off my tools with a dry cloth and finish off with paper kitchen towels to ensure completely dry. If you have some DW40, lightly spray this on blade and rub in. Guaranteed no rust. This will ensure that you extend the working life of even the cheapest tools considerably. Hope this helps. Get back to me if you need any more info. Best wishes, Des
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
As you've already mentioned, don't put plaster down the drain (or try and flush it down the toilet like some people do). Scrape it out into a bin bag and put it in your bin in sensible quantities. It'll be fine and a very easy way to dispose of it. Do not chuck huge quantities in your bin without bagging it first or you'll end up with a very heavy bin which never gets emptied! When I clean out my dirty buckets, I generally hose them out in a discreet part of the garden where the dirty water seeps away into the ground (you could also use a watering can for example). Any debris left on the surface can be left there or simply scooped up and binned in a bag when dry. No biggie. Hope this helps. Des
@cwuzii Жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 thank you ever so much for this information Des, you’ve been a massive massive help!
@oOShutts972 ай бұрын
Why did you want the plaster slightly deeper than the old plaster?
@21stcenturycaveman332 ай бұрын
Hi there, this is covered in the video. This allows you to complete that job using a much finer finishing plaster which will be nice and smooth and better blend in with the surrounding plaster. The Bonding plaster used to fill the hole will not give a 'finished' appearance and this is not it's job - it's a heavy duty filler only. However, it is only necessary to take back the backing plaster below the depth of the surrounding wall if you intend painting or papering the wall when everything has dried out. If you're simply going to skim the surface with plaster then no need to bother - there would be no point. Hope this makes sense. Des
@ryanwilkins70804 жыл бұрын
Just scratch the edges back a couple of mm to allow the skim coat to finish flush with the existing
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Hi there. You would need to scratch all of the surface back to make it sit flush. If you don't there will be a raised area in the middle surely??
@ryanwilkins70804 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 if you can see two 2mm on a wall you are a better man than me
@matabaruka4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanwilkins7080 If it was cement maybe. The bonding shrinks anyway. Enough for a thin coat of finish.
@MrMagsimus5 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks 👍👍
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Hope it helps. Have a great day where you are. Des
@fishburn083 жыл бұрын
I am going to be performing similar work tomorrow helping a family member out, what time frame should i be applying the plaster following the application of PVA, i.e do i leave it 24hours or do i apply plaster immediately after? Thanks in advance, i very useful video and an exceptional result!
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Do not let the PVA set . You need to apply plaster when PVA goes tacky for best bnf between old and new plaster. Good luck, Des
@jennymcmahon24503 жыл бұрын
Hi, sorry if I missed it on the video but why take it back 3mm ? I've just had a rewire and am looking a plastering over the chasers myself then just putting backing paper up for now as we are on a very tight budget. Thanks
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Hi, you need to take it back @3mm so when you apply the plaster finish plaster coat you can get it as flush as possible with the surrounding wall and you can smooth it out nicely. If you don't then you will have a bulge where the final plaster has been applied. Hope this makes sense. Des (if you just try and use the one plaster, i.e. the backing plaster, to fill in the recesses and level it off with surrounding wall you will find that the finish is too rough and you will notice it under the backing paper)
@dalecrx6 ай бұрын
Don't you need to put mesh tape over the joins then top coat to avoid cracks?
@TavsIsAbout4 жыл бұрын
Hi - think you’ve done a really good job here. I may have missed it on the video, but we’re you looking to plaster over just the patch itself, or were you looking to redo the entire room?
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Hello there and thanks for dropping by. Just plaster patching - not skimming all the walls or I wouldn't have bothered to spend so much time with the finishing plaster. I would simply have filled the chases with Bonding plaster, scored these and skimmed over with Multifinish. Hope this helps. Des
@richat1691 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids , why would one not use powder easifil/polyfilla mix instead? Does it not look as good painted?
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
Hi there and thank you very much for your kind words. Please see part 2. Easifill / polyfilla is not strong enough to fill the chases. It should only be used as a top coat / finishing coat to give a nice smooth and flush finish. Quite apart from that, it would be an extremely expensive way of filling in chases with an unsuitable finishing plaster. Hope that helps, Des
@hardworker80305 жыл бұрын
Any reason why you started up the top. I think I would of taken the switch off and put electrical terminal connectors on the end of the wires then push the wires in to the box.
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that would also work well my friend. Thanks for your feedback. ATB, Des
@DerekHundik5 жыл бұрын
The best thing is leave the back box just hanging and put some bonding inside the hole and then squeeze the back box into. After screw it to the wall. No cracks around the socket after.
@SteS4 жыл бұрын
@@DerekHundik this makes complete sense. You can get the back box more flush with the surface which leaves filling in around the box much easier. Thanks for this. Just in time of my latest project.
@KDC_Electrical2 жыл бұрын
I'm a spark of 22 years in northern Ireland. We don't use capping at all but only 20mm pvc conduit which is much better for adding more cables in the future. Your spark is a twat for leaving the job like that. He should let you finish before second fixing. It makes your job harder, tends to effect aesthetics or damage/scratch accessories and above all else its just dangerous. Any time I've been asked to do it by a builder I've declined as I know rightly someone untrained will need to unsrew everything potentially unsettling cables from terminations and leaving the job in a dangerous condition. He's likely not an approved electrician with niceic or nabit. An perfect example of what not to do. The last thing he needs is a call to say the client or plasterer received a shock.
@LordBishek4 жыл бұрын
Great video, learning lots. How long do you leave the PVA mix for before applying the bonding?
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Just wait till it goes tacky and then apply Bonding plaster. If it dries up straight away then apply another coat as the wall is very dry. Hope that helps and thanks for watching my friend. Des
@ConnorMckelvie19904 жыл бұрын
U can do it when tacky but better when completely dry plaster can slide off if pva is still wet in places
@rontheretiredone4 жыл бұрын
Stick a blob of pva straight in with the plaster or cement mix, works just as well and is easier to do
@PakistanExplorer-hs5vk Жыл бұрын
Gud work Sir👍
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
So nice of you. Best wishes, Des
@PakistanExplorer-hs5vk Жыл бұрын
It's owner for me you reply smooth 🙏GOD BLESS YOU Pakistan+Uk Explorer ❤️🥰 I'm begginer soon catch you in Sha ALLAH 🙏
@21stcenturycaveman3311 ай бұрын
Subscribed to your channel my friend. Best wishes to you and your family Sir. Des
@PakistanExplorer-hs5vk11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot
@davidpalmersmith8131 Жыл бұрын
Brother how do I keep the wires in the wall while I'm filling in the chases on my walls in the corner
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
Hi there. You could secure them with some clout nails (large head will keep them in place). You could also use cable ties to keep wires together and secure them using nails mentioned. Make sure all nails are galvanised to prevent rust coming through and obviously don't puncture wires! Take care Des
@SteS4 жыл бұрын
The spec sheet for this says build up in 8mm layers up to 25mm. Still, this is the product to use.
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're right. You are 'technically' supposed to build up deep cavities in layers but very few do as this is rarely practical due to time constraints, etc. Never compromised my jobs though - works a treat. Aldo, the manufacturers' spec sheets are always over the top to minimise them getting sued in an industrial setting. Exactly the same with medications - if you worried about every possible side effect you'd never taken a Paracetemol. ATB, Des
@SteS4 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 I am an Architectural Technician so I try to stick to rules when I can :). Just a habit in our industry I suppose.
@summertimeeebby Жыл бұрын
What kind of professional would you need to hire to fix a couple walls like that?
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
Plasterer.
@Zaine224 жыл бұрын
How far back from the front of the plaster sboukd the back box sit back
@DerekHundik5 жыл бұрын
Why capping again ? How many wires are there ? Maybe only 1.5 mm² twin&earth switch line. Why not pvc oval conduit ? Cutting nice channel using angle grinder.
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Hello there. Some electricians will not put in any capping, some use PVC and some use this stuff. Depends on the electrician and the customers specification. This is obviously the most heavy duty option and my choice. Have a great day where you are. Des
@DerekHundik5 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 heavy duty option ? It looks like plastic .
@154electrician5 жыл бұрын
Capping is pointless any drill on hammer action will glide thru it , waste of time and money
@MK-wf1eg5 жыл бұрын
I've been able to rewire a switch very easily simply because the previous spark used capping. Just used a strong rod to pull it through.
@joeycduft2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Im having an extractor fan installed into the bathroom wall but chased from a ceiling light into the ceiling plasterboard. Its a flat roof thats why its being chased in. Would the same method in this video work ok? Or better getting a plasterer to do the work?
@21stcenturycaveman332 жыл бұрын
Hi there. The same method would work absolutely fine. Best, Des
@JohnODonovan13 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It would be nice to know what pva is though.
@MB-sp6sp Жыл бұрын
What you doing with the wallpaper glue?
@GrahamDIY5 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍 Thanks
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Thanks Graham. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. ATB, Des
@jay-ll3pd5 жыл бұрын
why take a few mm once it was flush
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Hello there - good question. Whilst the Bonding plaster may be flush with the wall it will not be smooth. Bonding plaster is a backing plaster and has a rough texture. It is not meant to be a final (top) coat plaster. If you are going to skim the wall then it can be left as it is. However, if the wall is going to be painted or papered the joins need to be as seamless as possible and some sanding will almost certainly be required. Hope that helps. Happy New Year, Des
@gordonalexander16394 жыл бұрын
Can you plaster over plastic conduit.....or can you use cement......thanks
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
That's an easy one - you can do both. Just bear in mind though that cement will dry rock hard and you won' be able to sand it down - so it's going to be much more difficult to finish off if it's left rough. ATB, Des
@gordonalexander16394 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 thank you very much 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@gordonalexander16394 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 hi me again..... just wondering wants the best paint to protect wood against cement..... Thanks
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Hi there buddy. Not sure without researching it to be honest. Do a Google search - that should give you a few pointers. ATB, Des
@halfcantan12085 жыл бұрын
Do you have to use PVA on cuts made in plaster board
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Yes - always. ATB, Des
@bobbyb68954 жыл бұрын
No you use scrim tape
@timmakella13 жыл бұрын
Hey. Maybe a stupid question. Can you just use poly filler instead of plaster or is that a big no no? Many thanks
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
A big no for sure. Unfortunately, regular poly filler will be too weak a plaster. Not strong enough. Not meant to fill these depths. ATB, Des
@timmakella13 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 thanks for the reply! 👍🏻
@mavverick14 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir , can i use this product outside? ( roof tiles end I have some crack ) thx
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Hello there and thanks for your query. Definitely not my friend. This is for internal use only where not exposed to moisture/damp. You will need a standard mortar / render mix (they are the same thing). You can buy the stuff pre-mixed in a bag and you just have to add water. I've done a vid on this already: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4jGlZuBa6iHnNE Best wishes, Des
@Nomis-ru9cl4 жыл бұрын
Just replace your roof tiles they will cost you 2 pound each and are very easy to change
@bobbyb68954 жыл бұрын
Hi mate what you need is acrapaul £70 a tin and flashband that will fix it most roof tilers will not replace one tile there is not enough in it for them I'm a plasterer and roof tiler by trade and have been for 34 years
@MrJustincredible12342 жыл бұрын
Where's part 2? I can't find it! Thanks
@21stcenturycaveman332 жыл бұрын
here we go ............... kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6qrZ62Fq9eYkKc&ab_channel=21stCenturyCaveman
@MrJustincredible12342 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Thank you
@tonyjamesr1165 жыл бұрын
I want to see it plastered
@chucknorris19882 жыл бұрын
Good job but I disagree that filling in a chase in a wall requires 'a tremendous amount of skill'
@21stcenturycaveman332 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I think it depends on what type of finish you're looking for once you've filled them in tbh. Anyone can chuck plaster in a chase but it's how you finish it that will ultimately determine what skill set is required. For example, if you're going to skim over then I agree - no biggie. If you're going to paper over - better finish required. If you're hoping to paint straight over then a lot of skill will be required or it will look a complete mess. Best wishes, Des
@970357ers5 жыл бұрын
How long until chasing/filling requires a C&G qualification?
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Lol. You're probably not far from the truth to be honest. Take care, Des
@DanielS102913 жыл бұрын
When you chased out, was it difficult at the top? Im going to do this to a room upstairs going into the loft, ill be using an angle grinder and whilst ive done minir cutting out before ive never attempted to go through to another floor. Doing this to the corner of the ceiling and wall seems like a problem area. Any tips? Thanks! Great video
@DanielS102913 жыл бұрын
Ah I’ve just realised the electrician did the chasing!
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
No probs my friend. Best wishes, Des
@simonpidgeon9492 жыл бұрын
💯👍👍
@650GSF5 жыл бұрын
i will do the bonding, but I have given up trying to plaster, I just don't seem to have the nack of doing it :(
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
Hiya Garry. Hope you are well. It's not easy mate but we all have different strengths and weaknesses. For example, your plumbing skills are far better than mine. ATB, Des
@adamprice92145 жыл бұрын
I'm a chippy but turn my hand to anything. Trick is with plastering is go at it with bags of confidence... put it on the wall as fast as you can as it's a timing game. Then once the wall is covered then go over it and flatten it off, if it's still to wet then leave it a bit but chances are if your new to it it'll be going off. Don't leave to long before you put 2nd coat on, (1st coat should be fairly firm to trowel and not leaving deep trowel lines). Same with 2nd coat, throw it on main areas 1st as quickly as you can then work around the tricky areas after 90% is covered, this way you won't hopefully get in a fluster as there is nothing more confidence knocking. Then once wall is all covered go back over whole area to flatten. Leave in around 20 minute intervals and keep troweling up, 2nd and definitely third stages trowel up with water preferably in a spray bottle, drying times can vary on really cold and damp or stinking hot days so try and compensate accordingly. I see a lot of people struggle like I did too at 1st trying to be to pedantic about putting it on, dont fuss about you just wanna get it on, skills improve over time obviously, just get it on the wall then play about with ot once it's on there. Always use new unopened in date plaster that has been stored somewhere dry and not damp. Always seal with pva on renovation work and i personally use a 50/50 mix. I usually do a coat the day before if I can so it's not diluting on the wall as your plastering as this can cause loads of grief, then a 2nd coat 10 or 15 mins before plastering so it's going tacky to the touch. Always always use clean cold water, never dirty as this will set the plaster off like lightning, I had a guy labour when plastering a house and I found out at the end of a job he was sourcing water from a mixer thermostat tap and it was still luke warm despite being turned to coldest setting, I thought I'd lost the nack to plaster as it was going off so fast Haha, I laughed about it later but was I ever cursing myself at the time.Never over trowel plaster especially when too wet, better to leave it a bit if the case, this could run you into all sorts of bother, if its wet just leave it for a bit. When plastering over bonding use the same method as above but no need to pva if ideally you plaster the same day as bonding which is what the proper way is but left any longer then pva. It's all a timing game followed up by confidence in yourself and saying 'I'm going to conker this" give it a go and have some fun.. once you get the hang of it you'll really enjoy it and it's very self rewarding to be able to say... I did that 🤷♂️😀
@matts54604 жыл бұрын
Do you need to pva before applying bonding? I’ve done it straight on the breeze block so hoping will be ok as I didn’t pva
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Yep, the PVA needs to go on before the Bonding plaster as it controls the suction on the blocks. If suction is too high, the blocks will act like a sponge and suck moisture from the plaster causing it to dry out, shrink and crack - worst case scenario it may fall off the wall due to weak bond. You might be OK if it was quite a wet mix. Hope it works out for you. If it goes pear-shaped you will need to scrape off and start again. Hopefully, that won't be necessary. ATB, Des
@matts54604 жыл бұрын
21st Century Caveman thank you for the reply. I did clean the chase out before applying the bonding and also with a brush applied water on the surface also. For next time if I pva does it need to be a really weak mix and how long should I wait until I apply the bonding mix. Thank you again and appreciate you channel it’s fantastic
@SteS4 жыл бұрын
@@matts5460 use an old red sauce squeeze bottle and fill with some PVA and water and give it a good old shake. Squirt into the chase and it'll basically do the job itself by soaking into the masonry. Much quicker than dipping the brush in a tin every 5 seconds. Rinse out the bottle for reuse.
@steveesti4 жыл бұрын
Personally I never one coat chases, always two. Let the first coat take the cracks, second fills, scrape back your face and edges, then when ready skim away
@spencercooper-thorn26245 жыл бұрын
Please ensure you let the pva totally dry prior To bonding and do two coats 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@stevencorbin1035 жыл бұрын
Don't need two coats of bonding.. Good vid.
@christopherwright11005 жыл бұрын
Don't let pva dry either. It needs to be tacky .
@daliumangx4 жыл бұрын
hi mate ,can i spry the pva into the chase in stand of brush it ?
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Hi there buddy. I really don't think that will work at all. The mix wuld have to be very weak and therefore not effective. Although, I don't plaster for a living I've also never seen anybody else do it either which does it for me. So ..... brush or roller buddy. ATB, Des
@SteS4 жыл бұрын
Use an old red sauce or brown sauce squeeze bottle. If those can squirt out so can a mix of PVA and water.
@MrDjC54 жыл бұрын
Would this work on ceilings?
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Hello there. It most definitely would and I have uploaded vids on this. Please check them out. It'll work a treat. Best wishes, Des
@MrDjC54 жыл бұрын
Can it also be sanded down?
@seancalder88585 жыл бұрын
Never seen anyone piss about with one little chase so much, He'd not make much money on a site. S.B.R. is much better than P.V.A , fill the channel with bonding coat, top to bottom with a sideways motion pressing in the plaster, one sweep from bottom to top to clean existing plaster, move on to the next, when the bonding is semi set and firm wipe off the excess with a white wash brush taking off a small small amount from the chase and leaving brush marks for a key allow to set, repeat process with finish plaster and trowel up with a little water until flush with existing plaster.
@GrahamDIY5 жыл бұрын
He was making a video you doughnut That’s why he went slower, to explain what he was doing Jesus some people moan about everything...and have probably never done anything themselves
@bobbyb68954 жыл бұрын
Good attempt nice try I'm a plasterer by trade I have been for 34 years i want to point out the mistakes to help first of all when your blessing the wall your trowel handling is wrong and the plaster is not consistent to the wall when your bonding also when you mixed up you shouldn't need to refill with plaster get it all in at once experience knows how much water is needed aswell without repeating the process over and over again when your bonding go left right and left right very quickly with the trowel no ups or down there straight be a straight line no plaster on outside edges your too heavy with the trowel aswell and try using a drill to mix up and remember consistency only 2mm normally but also you shouldn't be filling holes that big put gyprock plasterboard inside to fill then bound over it I could go on and on but I understand this is not your trade good try
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your advice buddy. I didn't think of putting plasterboard inside the channels. I'll give that a go next time. Would have saved a lot of time that. ATB, Des
@ConnorMckelvie19904 жыл бұрын
Use unibond pva it's far better bud
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Hiya buddy. Thanks for your comment. I've often wondered about this stuff. It's a lot more expensive but you think it's worth it? What's the big difference? Thanks muchly. Des
@peterbrown9545 жыл бұрын
Use easy fill.
@21stcenturycaveman335 жыл бұрын
No way. It is NOT the product to fill in the chases. Thistle Bonding is the one to go for. Easifill is a great choice for finishing off and getting a nice smooth surface to finish the job off. See Part 2. ATB, Des
@nickcollins75685 жыл бұрын
I like Browning the best to fill in the hole. Then skim with finishing plaster
@eushsjsjzjzjzjdkixiixjxhdb32713 жыл бұрын
Lol I work for gelders an a plasterer we annoy the sparks for fun
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Fair game buddy. Respect ;?)
@timewell1004 жыл бұрын
B
@21stcenturycaveman334 жыл бұрын
Y
@DerekHundik3 жыл бұрын
back box too deep
@21stcenturycaveman333 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with it - absolutely fine. Des
@DerekHundik3 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturycaveman33 too deep should be flash with final wall
@vincino77623 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with his voice I heard him talk talking like a school girl 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jorwilson1781 Жыл бұрын
Can you help
@21stcenturycaveman33 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I do not do private work if that's what you're asking my friend. ATB, Des