22 TCM BA Rifle by Rock Island Full Review

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@scottlawrence1826
@scottlawrence1826 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video guys! I always wondered what this round could do with a full length barrel! One small tip though… Your accuracy will improve dramatically if you don’t rest your barrel on the shooting stick it will improve your barrel harmonics.
@kingcyrusvlog8668
@kingcyrusvlog8668 Жыл бұрын
Surely because of barrel harmonics (vibration), its a free floated barrel.
@davidsanders1991
@davidsanders1991 7 жыл бұрын
Rifle should be rested on the forearm, not the barrel.
@ranch5223
@ranch5223 5 жыл бұрын
Yup just made me cringe
@michaelchristianson7743
@michaelchristianson7743 4 жыл бұрын
That's why her shots were high!!! Wow!!! Basic stuff.....ignored.
@binko969
@binko969 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, saw that immediately. Plus she’s got a hell of a flinch going on. He should pretend to load it and hand it to her with an empty chamber and watch her jump. Plus that scope is mounted ridiculously high and it’s way too big. Looks like 50mm obj.
@TexanUSMC8089
@TexanUSMC8089 4 жыл бұрын
@@binko969 It's an ATN night vision scope.
@ivobiancucci4528
@ivobiancucci4528 4 жыл бұрын
a proper rest would be a better representation on how accurate the round is
@christiandehlinger3731
@christiandehlinger3731 4 жыл бұрын
She did a good job, there is normally lateral movement with that tri-pod, seated, shooting position.
@Razorbackoperator
@Razorbackoperator 5 жыл бұрын
After adding seven handguns chambered in .22TCM/9R to my collection during the last year I finally decided it was time to add the BA rifle so I just ordered the polymer stocked version while Bud's has them in stock - which isn't often. Also, the bolt rifle has a stronger, fully locked breech action for testing hand loads. If a manufacturer wants a sure-fire hit all they need to do is come out with a semiauto version along the lines of The Ruger 9mm carbine, or a M1 Carbine. They'd sell every one they can build.
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 6 ай бұрын
22TCM is basically 223 short. Velocity 2K fps from a pistol and low recoil; and 2800 fps from a rifle. Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. Reload 223 rem and if you get a split case, cut it down to 22TCM. I updated the Wiki article, including reloading data en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM 22TCM vs 5.7x28 vs 7.62x25 comparison by Paul Harrell kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH2mpISherFsm7M
@CletusLeonardLee
@CletusLeonardLee 8 жыл бұрын
Resting a free floating barrel on a tripod rest will play havoc with accuracy and consistency. IMHO, results would be meaningless.
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 8 жыл бұрын
Perhaps true unless it was resting there every shot in which case the effect on harmonics would be the same shot after shot.
@shnlj5910
@shnlj5910 7 жыл бұрын
Not perhaps true it is true. I actually stopped watching after seeing that. Maybe the rest of the review was perfect, I'll never know.
@yeahbee8237
@yeahbee8237 7 жыл бұрын
not with a human shooter behind the rifle, the barrel heats up as you go and that also affects the harmonics
@Teararec
@Teararec 7 жыл бұрын
Mcgiiver L yeah it would impede accuracy if it wasn't at 50 yards
@9716-i7f
@9716-i7f 6 жыл бұрын
at that range? gimme a break
@firm_pegasus873
@firm_pegasus873 6 жыл бұрын
Idk where you recorded the shots, but the ambiance of the shot makes this thing sound like a BEAST!!!
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 6 жыл бұрын
It thunders. The explosion sound effect I've been using in my intros is actually taken from a slow-motion recording I did of the .22tcm pistol.
@boydgrandy5769
@boydgrandy5769 4 жыл бұрын
Shot out of a 4 inch barrel, you get a huge fireball from the unburned powder and 2200 fps. Out of a 20 inch barrel you get almost no muzzle flash and you pick up something over 500 fps.
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 6 ай бұрын
22TCM is basically 223 short. Velocity 2K fps from a pistol and low recoil; and 2800 fps from a rifle. Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. Reload 223 rem and if you get a split case, cut it down to 22TCM. I updated the Wiki article, including reloading data en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM 22TCM vs 5.7x28 vs 7.62x25 comparison by Paul Harrell kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH2mpISherFsm7M
@bsouza4441
@bsouza4441 7 жыл бұрын
its a litle less than a 223 short barrel . very interesting ammo for this small size . its a good choice for hunting or shtf gun . maybe in a semi auto version could be used as farm defense weapon
@akbuilder7626
@akbuilder7626 5 жыл бұрын
AR 9mm with a 22 TCM 8" barrel using the 22 TCM R9 rounds in Glock magazines. Now that would be fun to shoot.
@ojasdevam5560
@ojasdevam5560 4 жыл бұрын
yes sir.... I also wonder IF the barrel was shortened to 16-18 there might even be a velocity increase... imo 22 is way to much
@ojasdevam5560
@ojasdevam5560 4 жыл бұрын
heck of a hunting round...seems to gain a Lot of velocity in pistol barrels in by in...if 2000 from a 5in. bet 2300 from an 8
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 4 жыл бұрын
In a “pistol” configuration too.
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 6 ай бұрын
Custom 22TCM DI AR15, ideal PDW kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWm0dZiFbt95eNk 22TCM is basically 223 short. Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. I updated the Wiki article, including reloading data en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM
@RU2AIM
@RU2AIM 4 жыл бұрын
*I'd like to see Ruger offer a 16" barrel in .22TCM option for those of us who already have their 9mm PC Carbine.*
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 6 ай бұрын
Custom 22TCM DI AR15, ideal PDW kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWm0dZiFbt95eNk 22TCM is basically 223 short. Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. I updated the Wiki article, including reloading data en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM
@terrygatewood340
@terrygatewood340 7 жыл бұрын
Be great for a keltec sub 2000
@golfer963
@golfer963 6 жыл бұрын
Finding the 22 TCM is a pain in the butt and when you do find it it's anywhere from 21 on up to $28 a box Rock Island need to get on the ball and making more ammo .. it's a fun round to shoot out from a 1911 and very accurate
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 2 жыл бұрын
Are they not doing that thing anymore where you send them your box of used casings and they reload it and send it back to you for cheaper? Oh shit this was 3 years ago.
@YoungSinatra25
@YoungSinatra25 8 жыл бұрын
A semi-auto version would be nice.
@greenthizzle4
@greenthizzle4 6 жыл бұрын
YoungSinatra25 fully auto would be great
@descolero1
@descolero1 5 жыл бұрын
An ar conversion would be even greater. Would be way cheaper to reload.
@imman0328
@imman0328 5 жыл бұрын
@@descolero1 seriously! if armscor wants this round to thrive put it in an AR platform
@descolero1
@descolero1 5 жыл бұрын
@@imman0328 I've heard of conversion barrels hopefully in the future i could find a mold to cast my own bullets and reload this round. Would save on lead cost and powder.
@DDIAZ-we4dz
@DDIAZ-we4dz 4 жыл бұрын
Put this in a 10/22 platform
@carlsmith8850
@carlsmith8850 5 жыл бұрын
An answer to a question no one was asking.
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 6 ай бұрын
22TCM is basically 223 short. Velocity 2K fps from a pistol and low recoil; and 2800 fps from a rifle. Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. Reload 223 rem and if you get a split case, cut it down to 22TCM. I updated the Wiki article, including reloading data en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM 22TCM vs 5.7x28 vs 7.62x25 comparison by Paul Harrell kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH2mpISherFsm7M
@mik55tv22
@mik55tv22 6 жыл бұрын
People tend to forget that a 5.56 has 3 times the muzzel energy of the 22tcm and out of same size barrel 5.56 is about 800fps faster and also BC of 5.56 is higher and its a heavier bullet as well
@zacht9447
@zacht9447 6 жыл бұрын
people also tend to forget that 5.56 won't fit in a 1911 frame it's an inch longer and also no 5.56 out of a 16 inch barrel is not doing anywhere near 3600 FPS more like 2900-3100 for 55 grain and 2800 for 62 grain out of a 20 inch barrel that's not a massive difference when you compare at the same barrel length 40 gr going 2800 vs 55gr going 2850
@richardwaid4718
@richardwaid4718 5 жыл бұрын
You’re exactly right. Why would you need this rifle when 223 rds come in a huge menu of velocities, weights and purposes. And cheaper ammo, and for instance a Ruger American bolt action in 223 is less that $400 maybe can be found at $350 and is probably more accurate. With optic mounts as well. I have a 5.7x28 a PS90 and a 22 tcm 1911 in the double stack magazine, the tcm barrel and spring have been in the box after two weeks of shooting it. It’s been a double stack 9mm for the last 4 yrs. and in the safe the whole time. I like the 57 way better for carry due to weight, capacity and loaded with elite ammunition’s penetrator rds it’s easily equal to the tcm in velocity with better lethality. Doesn’t seem to have any traits that aren’t unique or superior, so does anyone need another caliber to stock ammo for, especially one this obscure???
@j1.drxk.
@j1.drxk. 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardwaid4718 - I can carry 500 rounds of 22TCM just in the cargo pockets of my trousers. Imagine being able to pack out a few thousand rounds of ammo that fits my rifle and my pistol. That is the advantage. It's not always about what round has the most energy but what round is the most versatile for the given situation. I have a Five-seveN and a RIA MAPP that shoots the 22TCM9R. I was a huge 5.7x28 fan but I prefer the 22TCM. I just wish there were other ammo manufacturers interested in this cartridge.
@richardwaid4718
@richardwaid4718 2 жыл бұрын
@@j1.drxk. I couldn’t agree more, I have one of the early Rock Island double stack pistols with the 9mm conversion. I chronographed the 57x28 (fn blue tip and American Eagle) out of my fn57 and got 1700fps from the fn and 1650 from the AE) while the 22tcm averaged over 2000 fps that probably equates to 2800-2900 out of a 22 Tcm rifle. When the rifles showed up I wanted be but never pulled the trigger. If I can find some 22tcm dies I’ll probably get the rifle. Definitely would make a great hog gun.
@joerobo682
@joerobo682 4 жыл бұрын
Looks good, hope it sticks around longer than the 17mac2
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 6 ай бұрын
22TCM is basically 223 short. Velocity 2K fps from a pistol and low recoil; and 2800 fps from a rifle. Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. Reload 223 rem and if you get a split case, cut it down to 22TCM. I updated the Wiki article, including reloading data en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM 22TCM vs 5.7x28 vs 7.62x25 comparison by Paul Harrell kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH2mpISherFsm7M
@rebelgunnut
@rebelgunnut 7 жыл бұрын
Resting the barrel on the tripod is getting to me! How are you testing accuracy, but not take account for the changing of barrel harmonics by resting the barrel on the tripod?
@johnguillory1888
@johnguillory1888 4 жыл бұрын
Looks great, will get rifle soon.
@HeCoversMe
@HeCoversMe 8 жыл бұрын
I would like to see how the scope mount works. There's only one screw on top of the gun so was curious how it gets a firm mount. Also saw some guys mounting rings on it.
@daviddelacruz8143
@daviddelacruz8143 7 жыл бұрын
Necked down 5.56 is the more accurate description of this ammo.
@jrwill58
@jrwill58 6 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a necked down 9mm . A 556 is .22 cal ! One could neck down a 556 to a .17 cal.
@TheMrkylester101
@TheMrkylester101 5 жыл бұрын
The shoulder is just bumped back
@stevenwinegar9355
@stevenwinegar9355 2 ай бұрын
When shooting a rifle for accuracy, it's always best to rest it on the stock and not the barrel to avoid disrupting the barrel's harmonics. Doesn't really matter if you're just shooting off sticks, but just worth noting.
@hoosiercarry1149
@hoosiercarry1149 2 жыл бұрын
Finally found a 22 TCM 1911 after looking for a year and a half. What happened? I have 3 firearms in 5.7 x 28mm and have been wanting one in the 22 TCM badly. I reload for both calibers. I have to say I like the 22 TCM better than the 5.7 for a variety of reasons. !. Easier to load. Holds more powder making it a hotter cartridge. I get 2150 out of my 1911 without any pressure signs. It's a nice soft shooter. It weighs more than any traditional 1911 because of the small bore barrel having more steel. I like my DBX 57 the most out of my other 3 firearms. I get about the same velocity with the 8" barrel. The TCM cases are sturdier whereas the 5.7 cases are harder to size without damaging the base.
@kentowens2179
@kentowens2179 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting cartridge and rifle. It'd be nice to see and adequate review and accuracy test with a good scope, and from a benchrest.
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 6 ай бұрын
22TCM is basically 223 short. Velocity 2K fps from a pistol and low recoil; and 2800 fps from a rifle. Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. Reload 223 rem and if you get a split case, cut it down to 22TCM. I updated the Wiki article, including reloading data en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM 22TCM vs 5.7x28 vs 7.62x25 comparison by Paul Harrell kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH2mpISherFsm7M
@TexanUSMC8089
@TexanUSMC8089 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect that velocity.
@ElGrantRikun1
@ElGrantRikun1 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder to know if there is gonna be a .25 tcm caliber or may be a future new caliber , I think it would be very interesting the performance of that round .
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 6 ай бұрын
22TCM is basically 223 short. Velocity 2K fps from a pistol and low recoil; and 2800 fps from a rifle. Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. Reload 223 rem and if you get a split case, cut it down to 22TCM. I updated the Wiki article, including reloading data en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM 22TCM vs 5.7x28 vs 7.62x25 comparison by Paul Harrell kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH2mpISherFsm7M
@DDIAZ-we4dz
@DDIAZ-we4dz 4 жыл бұрын
17 round bolt action? that actually sounds fun as hell
@foodpimpz9429
@foodpimpz9429 7 жыл бұрын
Elbows to knees for accuracy please.
@cookwithme2730
@cookwithme2730 4 жыл бұрын
Knees don't bend tho tinted windows
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 4 жыл бұрын
It is quite high, but at the time this video was made that was the only mounting option we had. The base starts thing soft too high, then toss on some rings and suddenly you're in the sky. Good thing that only impacts comfort
@stanner9474
@stanner9474 4 жыл бұрын
I'm at 2:52 and am guessing, (based on the muzzle flash I saw exiting the .22 TCM pistol Sootch was firing) a low of 2740, high of 2980, therefore an average of 2860 - I hope, I hope, I hope
@stanner9474
@stanner9474 4 жыл бұрын
5:03 Well that's close enough, I WANT ONE!! - *Hey Ruger, PC Carbine?!?!?*
@RU2AIM
@RU2AIM 4 жыл бұрын
16" barrel? I wonder what one would do if fired through a 20" - 22" barrel. I bet you'd see your 2850
@rbm6184
@rbm6184 6 жыл бұрын
Like a fancy .22 Hornet. The .22 Hornet actually has better muzzle velocity. Wide range of bullets and its been around since WW2. I knew a guy that had a Thompson Contender pistol chambered in .22 Hornet back in the late 80s early 90s. Extremely accurate.
@carlosmartinez-ix8gj
@carlosmartinez-ix8gj 6 жыл бұрын
Good looking rifle....She definitely can put food on the table with those shots.
@JohnricolopezsonRicolopezson
@JohnricolopezsonRicolopezson 9 ай бұрын
I like that, I'll buy that
@jamal69jackson77
@jamal69jackson77 4 жыл бұрын
My guess from seeing what 22TCM can do out of a pistol would be about 2200 to 2500 fps. That 22TCM looks like a miniature 7.62 x 25 Tokarev... I like it! Ok, I underestimated...
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 3 жыл бұрын
Once the gun is bought the barrel could be changed to that 7.62x25 you like
@jamal69jackson77
@jamal69jackson77 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lure-Benson I don't know about that but it doesn't matter since I have firearms in both calibers so I can use both without the need of changing out barrels, which would be very tedious and impractical even if possible.
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamal69jackson77 Of course the barrels can be changed how do you think custom rifle makers re-barrel rifles .
@jamal69jackson77
@jamal69jackson77 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lure-Benson Re-barreling is not something that most gun shops and gun smith's are able to do, especially in somewhat rare, obscure and unpopular calibers like 7.62x25 and 22TCM. Not to mention your suggestion does not sound at all practical. I'm quite sure it would be far less expensive to purchase separate platforms in both these calibers than to have a custom barrel made and fitted or to have your rifle re-barreled. Firearms in these calibers are not particularly expensive or impossible to find, so why go through the trouble of rebarreling? For what purpose? Not to mention that I already mentioned to you that I now own both Tokarev and RIA 22TCM firearms and I would not want to re-barrel any of my firearms into a different caliber than their original calibers. I only mentioned in my comment that 22TCM looks like a miniature 7.62x25, I don't know why you perceived that I would be interested in the suggestion of re-barreling my firearms, which I am not. I only made an observation and never posed a question or inquiry about re-barreling anything.
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamal69jackson77 I'm not even a gunsmith or gun shop but I still build my own custom rifles mostly on Military Mauser 98 actions with the last one I did was a 300 WBY mag done on a commercial Mauser 98 action of Czech origin . I have done for my AR 10 a upper in 6mm - 284 win with 2nd upper in 6.5-284 Norma - 3rd upper in 375-325WSM . I have done AR 15 uppers in 17 Remington - 7.62x39 - 6 mm x45 . 224 Valkyrie. I also did a Remington 722 in 6 mm -284 win using a Douglas barrel . I use barrels from Pac Nor or Douglas and the chamber reamers are from Pacific tool & gauge, so don't tell me re barreling is to difficult to do, it's not . Even my lathe was made in 1940 . I could buy a reamer in 7.62x25 very easy with the head space gauges and buy a 30 cal barrel to thread then chamber and install on a bolt action rifle.. If you don't have actual knowledge of custom rifle building you shouldn't be telling people re barreling a rifle is to difficult . This is the problem on KZbin filled with teenagers and brain dead drug addicts communist loving millennials that don't know jack shit then talk shit to people that have been there and done that .
@GaveMeGrace1
@GaveMeGrace1 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks -my first guess was 3600; then when I heard the first shot, I changed my tune to 2700.
@BAdventures
@BAdventures 6 ай бұрын
Good hands on review. 22TCM is basically 223 short. Velocity 2K fps from a pistol and low recoil; and 2800 fps from a rifle. Parent case is 223 rem / 5.56mm NATO, open source so will never die. Good for handloaders. Reload 223 rem and if you get a split case, cut it down to 22TCM. I updated the Wiki article, including reloading data en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_TCM 22TCM Improved, forming 223 cases (5.56x24mm) kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4rZdKl-gqeDY7c 22TCM vs 5.7x28 vs 7.62x25 comparison by Paul Harrell kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH2mpISherFsm7M
@stanviers8792
@stanviers8792 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that d.i. products rail fit GREAT on my marlin795, had to beat it on with a hammer & diddnt even need the set screws!!! & that was after hand fitting with a file for over an hour..
@BoogalooBoy
@BoogalooBoy 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a semi auto 22 tcm rifle.
@CaveWyatt
@CaveWyatt 8 жыл бұрын
It would be fun to pair this with the RIA 9/22TCM hi cap 1911 Ultra Tac mid-size. that's a lot of punch in a lightweight package.
@gabepettinicchio7454
@gabepettinicchio7454 7 жыл бұрын
My concerns: 1) these rifles were terribly inaccurate when they came out. Last year I contacted Armscor. They said they knew about this and at the time didn't know whether it was the cartridge or the rifle. Your group seemed better than what I had seen at the time. Does anyone know if the problems have been corrected? 2) The mounted scope seemed very high with that mount. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Very impressive ballistics though. 22 Hornet worthy. Rifle and ammo is very inexpensive. I handled a rifle in TX. Certainly not CZ material, but it had an attractive "working man's gun" attractiveness. I liked it. The stock is made from a native wood from the Philippines, though off-hand I don't remember which tree.
@usnavypalawanhunter5737
@usnavypalawanhunter5737 Жыл бұрын
Philippine mahogany. Termite proof. I know because Palawan termites completely ate up the American walnut stock of my Ruger 10-22.
@danieltatum3477
@danieltatum3477 5 жыл бұрын
So, the rifle has a dove tail for scope rings. Do we have to add a pic-rail to everything?
@jesusisalive3227
@jesusisalive3227 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it would perform necked down to a 17? Also get that stock on the rest instead of the barrel, it will shoot better and be steadier.
@genesmiley3727
@genesmiley3727 5 жыл бұрын
My 40gr spirepoint, over 10 gr Lil Gun is giving velocities of 2650fps and is pretty accurate.
@ojasdevam5560
@ojasdevam5560 3 жыл бұрын
barrel length?
@genesmiley3727
@genesmiley3727 3 жыл бұрын
@@ojasdevam5560 22.75"
@dtdt1100
@dtdt1100 4 жыл бұрын
That's a standard 5/8 dovetail you could have mounted a scope for the price of a set of rings.
@optimisticfuture6808
@optimisticfuture6808 5 жыл бұрын
I guessed 2850. I woulda liked to see farther distance. Anyway, something about a bolt rifle that is just art.
@nedflanders5302
@nedflanders5302 7 жыл бұрын
I love my TCM, it has become my go to gun for varmints and predators. My 8 year old will break it in this deer season.
@ldwithrow08
@ldwithrow08 7 жыл бұрын
Seems a bit of a lightweight for deer. South eastern white tails run on the small side so it might work. Must be a pretty exceptional 8 year old to be ready for deer hunting.
@nedflanders5302
@nedflanders5302 7 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Withrow I hunted for years with a .222, and with a neck shot at the base of the skull, the deer isn't going anywhere. It would suck on a running shot, but consider the area we hunt, We usually don't face running shots. And yes, my son is an exceptional shooter for his age, thanks for the concern.
@ashleynicely1046
@ashleynicely1046 7 жыл бұрын
.22 centerfire is legal for deer in many states, and this exceeds cartridges like the .22 hornet which has taken thousands of deer with clean humane kills.
@TexanUSMC8089
@TexanUSMC8089 4 жыл бұрын
I know a man that hunts with a 218B every deer season. That's very close to the same as this 22TCM.
@lieutenantkettch
@lieutenantkettch 3 жыл бұрын
This clocks at around 1800 fps out of a pistol barrel. Did not expect the barrel length to make such a big difference.
@scotteger6271
@scotteger6271 Жыл бұрын
He said about 1800fps out of a 5” handgun barrel…the rifle is 22”, so 17” more of barrel to gain 100fps…that’s just under 6fps/in gain. Honestly I expected more. I would’ve guessed 10fps/in, so one almost has to ask if the barrel is too long and potentially robbing velocity?
@martinpanks992
@martinpanks992 3 жыл бұрын
That TCM is a cool little round..
@Punk-Jw
@Punk-Jw 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of this for a cheap target gun. That action with maybe a little heavier barrel in a mcmillan a5. Like a mini m40. To me, 22lr is pleasent to shoot, but id like somthing with a little more power than that...This would be great for that. Little more power an recoil, centerfire so it can be reloaded, and super cheap to reload and you can either load them hot, heavier projectiles or lighter.
@davidfriesen9512
@davidfriesen9512 4 жыл бұрын
My hat is off to rock island armoury. In my past surmisings I thought that someone should make a fatter .22 magnum case to up the mv. Well the .22 Tcm is my answer. I think that little rifle is beautiful. I think that it’s too bad that this little bullet couldn’t have been the cartridge that the m1 carbine was chambered for for the soldiers in the 2 ww. I read some where that the .30 carbine cartridge was a little slow and the soldiers couldn’t quite reach out when they needed to
@radamson1
@radamson1 4 жыл бұрын
how about a test between a 22TCM and a 22 hornet
@bbjuneau
@bbjuneau 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Possibly I missed it, but where is the rifle made? it has a very nice target crown on it.
@usnavypalawanhunter5737
@usnavypalawanhunter5737 Жыл бұрын
Philippines.
@DGmarch30
@DGmarch30 Жыл бұрын
Is there a 9mm barrel to switch with the 22 tcm to fit?
@ap1s2k78
@ap1s2k78 6 жыл бұрын
No locking lugs just a "safety lug" style lug built into bolt handle?
@1911geek
@1911geek 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my another shooter opted to rest barrel on bipod (disturb free float) and expecting hole in a hole result. I don't think its fare to blame scope verticle stringing for sure. If bench rest try sand bag rest behind front stud area
@johnjeffries6207
@johnjeffries6207 4 жыл бұрын
Good video thank you. Nice rifle
@frankgrochowski4785
@frankgrochowski4785 4 жыл бұрын
But what does Turner Classic Movies to do with fire arms?
@descolero1
@descolero1 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Once i saw the chronograph.
@JohnricolopezsonRicolopezson
@JohnricolopezsonRicolopezson 9 ай бұрын
How much sir, of cash on deleverry
@tonatiuhhuitzilopochtli2909
@tonatiuhhuitzilopochtli2909 2 жыл бұрын
That is one bad ass caliber
@sneekybreeki8304
@sneekybreeki8304 7 жыл бұрын
how much per round is 22tcm
@romeobobadilla8431
@romeobobadilla8431 6 жыл бұрын
Sir im one of the fans of gb guns but this time i cannot understand how you did it in 50yards you have a good grouping but,is that riple zero on 25meters before you test it and how about 100yards accuracy
@yuro1769172
@yuro1769172 7 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't be resting the barrel on the tripod like that messes up barrel harmonics
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 7 жыл бұрын
+Yuro G just like contact with the stock
@yuro1769172
@yuro1769172 7 жыл бұрын
Graham Baates yup
@prepperoverwatch7965
@prepperoverwatch7965 7 жыл бұрын
Yuro G Not exactly like contact with the stock. But hey, whatever, it their channel. Lol
@ap1s2k78
@ap1s2k78 6 жыл бұрын
Graham Baates nope
@jaimebalingit3181
@jaimebalingit3181 4 жыл бұрын
velocities can match the 308 . great for practice without the cost
@_cal_techie
@_cal_techie 4 жыл бұрын
How about a Ruger 10/22 takedown chambered in .22 TCM?
@09cwhnatko
@09cwhnatko 6 жыл бұрын
God damn that scope is high. She is almost has to rest her chin on the stock.
@ldwithrow08
@ldwithrow08 7 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see a front lug bolt system. That single lug rear lock system doesn't seem really secure to me. Don't know what the breech pressures are like.
@chrisstorey7730
@chrisstorey7730 5 жыл бұрын
It's not as good as 17 HMR
@bosstube9046
@bosstube9046 7 жыл бұрын
Listed velocity is 2800 with a 40sp I can get about 3000 with my hornet with the same bullet I'm gonna buy one of these just to see if I can get it up to my hornet loads then do some hunting with both to see how they perform what's the twist rate
@taurushipointenthusiast1306
@taurushipointenthusiast1306 7 жыл бұрын
If you want to step up in scope yes the mount is needed I got mine mounted with a .22 BSA special for 22 mag nice fit it was. Works good. However the info is awesome!!!! great work on your behalf..and yes i am looking at a better scope nothing wrong with that BSA Special at all I want to stretch it out See how Far She`ll touch with effectiveness. BSA has been great at short range work that is for me 300 yards or less. At 2800 FPS 300 yards no challenge for the Rifle yes good enough for the shooter not so much on what the rifle can produce. I think this little 22 can effectively, consistently and accurately hit at 600 yards if not more. That is just me might be delusional but I have to try
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 7 жыл бұрын
Let us know how it goes!
@seeingimages
@seeingimages 5 жыл бұрын
Did he say 2,000 feet per second out of a 1911?
@TexanUSMC8089
@TexanUSMC8089 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Ryan_Dye-r
@Ryan_Dye-r 4 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia says 2800 ft. / second for the 22 TCM Rifle.
@Strutingeagle
@Strutingeagle 7 жыл бұрын
barrel resting on tripod
@holtian
@holtian 8 жыл бұрын
2500-2800fps?
@shawndean8358
@shawndean8358 4 жыл бұрын
Scope is way high , no good cheek weld , I think I would stick with tip off and not add on rail . But to each his own . How's the rifle , it looks like a remington I think it was the 509 can't remember model . Good lookin rifle .
@jrwill58
@jrwill58 Жыл бұрын
She shot well for the position. If youre testing for rifle accuracy, get a bench so she can get comfortable and show us what the rifle is capable of.
@rancidpitts8243
@rancidpitts8243 4 жыл бұрын
I have not cared for the 22TCM as a pistol round as it appeared useless beyond a paper punching toy. Now I see a use. A 2700 Fps 45 grain bullet out of 16 inch barrel matches a 22 Hornet out of a 20 inch barrel. A plus I understand is the brass is based on the 9 MM Luger which is much more available than Hornet for reloading. Please tell me I can reform 9 MM into 22TCM. Ground squirrels are doomed inside of 200 yards.
@RU2AIM
@RU2AIM 4 жыл бұрын
At that speed a 300yd shot isn't asking too much for taking something the size of a Ground Squirrel.
@rancidpitts8243
@rancidpitts8243 4 жыл бұрын
@@RU2AIM At the same speed and weight bullet out of a 22 Hornet is only considered to be a 150 to an extreme of 200 yard range round. The ballistics of that weight bullet (45 Gr.) sheds velocity rapidly thus dropping sharply. I will correct myself in believing that I could make 22TCM brass out of plentiful 9MM brass by now stating it is .223 Remington that I can use. 22 Hornet brass is made in small batched once a year. .223 Rem. is made in huge batches daily.
@RU2AIM
@RU2AIM 4 жыл бұрын
@@rancidpitts8243 I shoot a .22LR 200m out of a 6.625" barrel and shatter clay pigeons, I doubt the TCM wouldn't '50% better that' and do so with enough power to take a smallish rodent.
@rancidpitts8243
@rancidpitts8243 4 жыл бұрын
@@RU2AIM The 22 rd will kill small rodents out to 500 yd/m +. What I prefer is an instant kill, not a long painful death 10's of minutes after being shot. Perhaps it goes back to being a soldier for 26 years. I would rather be killed quickly than suffer for hours or days before I died. I would care to extend that courtesy to a pest or battlefield enemy. It is just my way.
@kookooachoo2538
@kookooachoo2538 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see a 5.7x28 bolt gun
@Strutingeagle
@Strutingeagle 8 жыл бұрын
Between the hornet and fireball.
@johnsmithfakename8422
@johnsmithfakename8422 5 жыл бұрын
My first guess was 3000 FPS but the 2750 FPS range is still respectable.
@millieatr
@millieatr 4 жыл бұрын
This rifle in good ole 22LR would make a nice tree squirrel gun
@LuisRuiz-sv2mz
@LuisRuiz-sv2mz 5 жыл бұрын
Nice round but hard to find in stock.
@ReconGuy-D
@ReconGuy-D 6 жыл бұрын
Harmonics are screwed up when resting the barrel on a tripod. Rifle barrels are meant to be free floating for a reason. If you zero it that way, it'll be all over the place for the shooter who actually does it correctly. I wouldn't have my wife shooting my hunting rifle flinching in anticipation either and expect people to take the review seriously. In the Army, our M24s utilize a fixed bipod which is way better for accuracy. Sorry but I'll need to watch someone else review this.
@user-mc6df1ep3c
@user-mc6df1ep3c 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed ! This video sucks , all of their videos suck
@GivenFactNotFiction
@GivenFactNotFiction 4 жыл бұрын
What is the estimated max effective range? Also does anyone make a semi auto?
@fullmag61
@fullmag61 8 жыл бұрын
It will fit the pistol mags
@bonitahalpern5424
@bonitahalpern5424 5 жыл бұрын
My guess is about 2500 FPS out of the rifle.
@박윤기-t3q
@박윤기-t3q 6 жыл бұрын
Is it pistol caliber or rifle caliber?
@michaelbennett4968
@michaelbennett4968 5 жыл бұрын
And I suppose it's nice to have a pistol and rifle in the same caliber I agree. But my plane old 2 23 which they have mountains of ammunition for I don't know what do you think
@Razorbackoperator
@Razorbackoperator 5 жыл бұрын
True but you can't stuff 20 rounds of .223 into the pistol grip of a Glock 17, or CZ 75B converted to .22TCM9R now can you! And the pistol versions of .22TCM/9R aren't exactly delivering shabby numbers either! Factory ammo generally exceeds 2,000 fps from 5" 1911 barrels and my own hand loads have clocked as high as 2,067 fps from a 4.5" CZ 75B TCM9R conversion barrel firing my own 5.56x24! I've had 33 grain Speer JHP go 2,174 fps from the same 4.5" barrel- same 5.56x24. Also, every fired .223 case you have is future .22TCM/5.56x24 case if so choose!
@garyjcsizmar4636
@garyjcsizmar4636 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I am sure you know by now but the stock should be rested not the barrel! I was interested up till than.
@cmj20002
@cmj20002 6 жыл бұрын
I like the TCM for a pistol, but for a rifle, it doesn't have the same allure for me. I have a 5.56 that is higher in velocity with a heavier bullet and the ammo costs less. I also have a .17HMR with similar performance or the .17 WMR that is a lot more potent. The .22TCM/9mm combination 1911 pistol is a great offering and I would like one, just not the bolt action rifle. If it was offered in a carbine or lever action it may be something I would consider.
@usnavypalawanhunter5737
@usnavypalawanhunter5737 Жыл бұрын
This is the Philippines, the home of the Armscor 22 TCM. It's a big deal to us Filipinos since our government has banned the .223 and 5.56 from civilian use and authorizes it only for police and military. .22 TCM is the hottest round we can get in the Philippines. So what's the use of a .223 if we can't get it?
@mag44ie
@mag44ie 4 жыл бұрын
Can the rifle handle a map 22 tcm 9r?
@michaeloppenheimer2582
@michaeloppenheimer2582 3 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely screaming !!
@chriskell8479
@chriskell8479 5 жыл бұрын
And what about hand loads?
@jerrybauduin6714
@jerrybauduin6714 8 жыл бұрын
Are these rifles made by Uberti? I saw the Uberti letter in the box
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 8 жыл бұрын
+Jerry Bauduin lol, no, that got shoved in there on accident while cleaning up a pile of guns. Good catch!
@andreawhalen4142
@andreawhalen4142 Жыл бұрын
i like both the 22tcm and the 5.7by28 but i refuse to own either because the cost of ammo is ridiculous, they have purposely kept ammo prices high since covid and it pisses me off.
@Lunentucker
@Lunentucker 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah... not good form or technique on applying variable weight and pressure on the barrel. That stock is there for a reason.
@joash480
@joash480 8 жыл бұрын
nice chrony test, better than just saying it goes up to 2800. you got facts.
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 8 жыл бұрын
+Ash That's how we try to do it. Real ballistics gel, real distances, chrono, and two of us speaking our thoughts.
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 4 жыл бұрын
Have no idea why I haven’t seen this
@effceesvideos
@effceesvideos 4 жыл бұрын
That round could defeat body armor
@manuelitoubaldo885
@manuelitoubaldo885 Жыл бұрын
Need po ba ang LTOPF ang 22 TCM BA rifle,,, Sir/Ma'am?.
@davidupton9354
@davidupton9354 4 жыл бұрын
Is this the same round as the 22 Hornet? If it is, look out for the casing breaking where it starts to step down to the lead. It's a bitch to remove.
@jrdirty4797
@jrdirty4797 8 жыл бұрын
holy cow that's approaching 556 power.
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 8 жыл бұрын
+Jr Dirty Yes it is....
@SuperSneakySteve
@SuperSneakySteve 7 жыл бұрын
TCM is cut down 556 brass.
@wisewhiterabbit
@wisewhiterabbit 7 жыл бұрын
Jr Dirty no where near it, hornady v max 40 grain is traveling at 3600
@DimaProk
@DimaProk 7 жыл бұрын
Edward, it's actually 3800 fps according to Midway.
@bosstube9046
@bosstube9046 7 жыл бұрын
Closer to a 22 hornet I get about 3000 fps with a 40 gr bullet
@winstonsuyam1619
@winstonsuyam1619 3 жыл бұрын
How much sir
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