22 vs. 24 Fret Guitars - Mystery Solved - Using PRS SE Custom 22 / 24

[@stevehogan8829]

TTK, great job of researching and presenting this. Best job I'[ve seen on this topic. I much prefer the deeper more rich tones of the 22 fret. The difference was obvious during the demo. I actually didn't know which was which till I went back after choosing the one I liked most.

[@thetonekingofficial]

Thank you showman!

[@jesuzleonardo]

So, if I put a 24 fretboard on a strat with floyd rose I should not have any issues, right?

[@johngerson7335]

@@jesuzleonardo Almost no issues. If you bought a say, Warmoth Strat replacement neck, the only issue you might run into is the placement of your neck pickup. As TK noted about the PRS 24 fret guitar, the neck pickup has to move a little forward toward the bridge to accommodate the extra length of the 24 fret fingerboard. Would be the same on a traditional Strat. Go to Warmoth.com and you'll find this info there. Hope this helps.

[@jesuzleonardo]

@@johngerson7335 thank you very much!!!

[@johngerson7335]

@@jesuzleonardo No problem Leo, you're quite welcome.

[@samsondaniel399]

I bought the 24 because I wanted the 🦉 owl.

[@marvinbush5278]

You're the only one here who's got the right idea.

[@TylerLL2112]

Haha. Guilty.

[@HooksBill]

Me too.

[@maykolllopez1585]

Same, it was either an owl or a f hole

[@LowLevelNPC]

Same! Gotta have the owl!

[@stealthracer]

WHY WHY WHY oh WHY do people insist on demonstrating guitars using full-on distortion? Tells you absolutely nothing.

[@itsADL]

The Tone King is having a hard time with his tone.

[@thetonekingofficial]

It told me something. Sorry you do not approve.

[@stealthracer]

Bollocks, you hear the amplifier but you really want to hear the guitar

[@jamiemacmillan4056]

because whether you like it or not most guitarists play hard rock or metal

[@WCG72]

steveteb I agree with you. Playing a clean tone allows you to hear the guitar not just the effects.

[@BAMozzy69]

Its not just the neck pick up tone that is different but it also affects the 'middle' switch option with both pick-ups on. Because they are further apart in a 22, you get a bigger 'difference' between the two pick-ups which also affects the tone when playing with both pick-ups together. If you also have coil splits, this affects the tone of any selection that uses the neck pick-up - whether that's on its own (H or S) or in combination with the bridge(H or S). The only tone that is the same is when using the bridge pick-up on its own. That's not to say that one guitar is 'better' because its neck pick-up is closer/further away, but that it changes the majority of tones available. The 24 is a bit brighter, more articulate in the neck but the 24 is warmer so it depends on what you prefer, want or need...

[@lewisbeeman]

Cool, now how about we hear the actual guitar instead of some crazy distortion

[@hibernative]

Doesn't work that way. He needs to preserve his Hard Rock Café demeanor.

[@santiagovanegas3812]

Cool video. Personally, I prefer the 22. Would've been nice to hear the two guitars clean as well.

[@WCG72]

Be nice if you killed the distortion so we could hear the actual guitars.

[@guitarman7597]

Bill Gunning read above and get a life.

[@WCG72]

Guitar Man I have a life. I have a very good life where I get paid to play music. Thank you for your concern.

[@darkewind56]

I agree. You really cannot tell without hearing a good clean tone. I can make a crappy guitar sound good with good distortion.

[@ThomasClark123]

You can't judge the quality of sound when you just play on distortion. You need to hear the clean sound as well.

[@markgowans]

@@darkewind56 Well I heard a difference and I prefer the 22 fret model.

[@baumfr]

Well done video. I'm glad you took the time to explain what all guitar players should already know about scale length, the 12th fret and fret spacing. I am also glad you got that 24th fret tone in there. I was afraid I wasn't going to get to hear the screech owl.

[@StevenAMckayAuthor]

Is there a single band in the world that uses a tone as distorted as that?

[@agent19kentuckypotbaron15]

yes, the brown hatters

[@MaestroJericho]

90s black metal hahahaha

[@greekfreak1980]

To sum up:a 24 fret,double humbucker guitar,sound's a little bit ''brighter'',because the humbuckers are closer together,like the other comment says,the neck pickup is now closer to the bridge,but you gain a couple of octaves,from the 2 extra frets.A 22 fret guitar,sound's a little more ''full'' because the humbuckers have more space between them. In the end it comes down to personal preference,if you play a lot down the neck,a 24 fret guitar may be more up your alley.

[@MrJoeyBoombotz]

The 24 fret is brighter and that is a good thing. You can always use the tone control to roll it off. I find the 22 fret guitars are too warm for me, especially on the wound strings.

[@Ron_Padgett]

LOL... damn I knew this 20 years ago. I've tried to tell people many times. If a guitar has a certain scale, 22 or 24 are exactly the same except the 24 fret just goes farther into the body pushing the neck pickup closer to the bridge, that's it. I don't see how it's rocket science. :)

[@akeeperofoddknowledge4956]

Ron Padgett ; Exactly! And I can't believe any experienced guitar player doesn't know that the 22th fret is at the exact center of the scale length. I love 24 frets because to me it makes sense to have a full 2 octaves than to save 3/4" or so of wood! Neck position pickups aren't so much fatter sounding so much as there is more string movement at the base if the neck than at the bridge - so the bridge pickup needs to be hotter. I'm not even all that experienced and I've know this stuff since the late 79s, early 80s. And I'm not even that bright.

[@akeeperofoddknowledge4956]

Fat thumb got in the way! 12 th fret us the exact center!!! can't blame Otto Korrect for this one!

[@anonymousanonymous1314]

So much for my plans of putting extra frets between all the ones already there to get 4 octaves.

[@akeeperofoddknowledge4956]

Jedidiah Stopyro lol!

[@anonymousanonymous1314]

RDE Lutherie call me weird but I've always used alternate picking to play quarter notes. That seems much easier than such extensive modifications.

[@often0093]

The way you speak English is so kind to who learn English. It is easy to listen to.

[@droliver]

Why are you trying to show subtle distinctions between the guitars with a massively processed, over-driven and distorted channel going? That kind of defeats the whole purpose as characteristics of the amp are overwhelming characteristics of the guitars there. For the love of God, ditch the effects and just use a lower powered amp where you can get just enough on the verge of over-driving it but still let the guitar do it's thing. Your demo setup now would make a $150 guitar sound indistinguishable from your beautiful PRS's

[@tizianocosci4923]

In distortion based music the difference is not in sound which is 90% pick-up\amp settings but in balance, weight, ability of stay in tune that make the big difference from a 200 $ and a 1500$ guitar

[@chrisking6695]

Wrong. A cheap 150 dollar guitar does not sou d like a 10k PRS no matter the amount of processing. If you can't hear the difference get your ears checked.

[@HeavyInstinct]

@@chrisking6695 Yeah no kidding. The difference between the two guitars demonstrated in the video was completely obvious and distinct. Apparently this guy couldn't hear the difference due to all the signal processing LOL.

[@veritechzero]

you know what's really funny about the whole 22/24 fret thing? any non guitarist listener could give two craps haha. I've never ever had someone say my tone was too shrill or my harmonics weren't right because I have a 24 fret guitar. or that it sounded too muddy because of my 22 fret guitar. I have however heard that my neon pink guitar does not match my black metal band haha. in the studio it may make a difference, but not as big of a difference as single coil vs humbucker, active vs passive etc.

[@jamiemacmillan4056]

Jeff Swanson you have a pink guitar in a black metal band? hahaha could you tell me what your band is called because I would love to witness that

[@saurus738]

Most guitars on same scale length makes the pickups distance closer to each other on 24 frets because the extra 2 frets at the end. YT brought me to this 5yrs old video

[@masgujeff]

i think the logic is not the 24 fret push the neck pickup toward the bridge, but because the scale length is same between 24 and 22, the 24 bridge need to be moved a bit to the neck direction to compensate the length of the neck, as the result both bridge and bridge pickup is moving to the neck not the neck pickup moving toward the bridge (as the body wood should be same/similar between 24 fret and 22 fret)

[@dinoparton6598]

This is a side by side comparison for metal heads only.

[@HauntedGuitarMan]

Cool vid. Your comment section amuses me. I’ve been playing for 26 years almost exclusively metal and I can easily tell a difference even with distortion on full blast. However acoustic always sounds generally the same to me. I assume that’s just because my ear isn’t developed to it.

[@joebloggs1444]

Use a cleaner less driven tone....then we will be able to hear the difference....😵🎸👍

[@Beruang0707]

I have a 24, I love the bend ability on it :)

[@jasonszech6990]

I was an employee at PRS down in beautiful bayside Stevensville, working in the finishing department (I'd still be working there, but they didn't pay enough and I couldn't afford to wait some 15-20 years, working my way through the production stations to raise my luthiery skills and salary.. During the 2016 PRS Experience expo/concert at the factory, I had a conversation with Paul over some beers about this very issue. I told him I was a 22-fret man, always was. I see in this video you spoke to him at NAMM, but he was speaking to a customer, which is very different than speaking to his own people. He told me that he felt the same way, and strongly at that. He said that he wouldn't even produce 24-fret models but for the extreme demand for them, and PRS Guitars is a business after all. As for the birds, one extra detail not mentioned is that all the species are native to Maryland. We are very proud of what we do.

[@johntinker3457]

Thanks for your insights, 22 frets or 24 frets......PRS makes great guitars.

[@rexmilson]

does the 22-fret have push pull to split pick ups?

[@bagaspratama440]

PRS make overpiced guitar

[@francescobarbaro7114]

@@rexmilson no, it doesn't

[@LuisRodriguez-cf4tf]

@@rexmilson two years later but you got your answer. Yes. And it’s a beautiful guitar. Have a great day!!

[@JGPorcello]

I have a 24 fret guitar with a 25.5 scale length. My neck humbucker is more than an inch closer to the bridge than the neck humbucker on a T style I have with the same scale length. I noticed how bright that humbucker compared to Les Pauls that I've had, when I tried the guitar. I don't know if it's the position of the thing, or the way it's made, clean, or not it's pretty articulate compared to other guitars I've owned. From my experience, I think you're right.

[@talkychris]

I think they both sound muddy and I'm not a fan of that much distortion. Would have been good to hear both played clean . I had a Custom 24 SE, didn't like anything about it. Now have a Core Custom 22 and love everything about it.

[@TheShayneMay]

Great info! I have to admit to liking the fatter sound of the 22 neck pick up. I have always been a fan of the Les Paul, and therefor a 22 fret guitar, because of the fatter, fuller, deeper sound. This experiment just proved it for me. Thanks!

[@rendyandrian7149]

Thanks for this info. it's SUPER useful for me. I'm planning of getting PRS P22. After watching this video, I won't do it because I prefer the sound of 24 frets PRS. Beside that, I think having two extra frets is an advantage. Because I can still play that guitar as a 22 frets guitar. But, I can't do the opposite with 22 frets guitar.

[@SchmittycocoPop]

I like the feel of the 22 much better. Its really just preference, both solid guitars.

[@Gitfiddle]

I'm quite shocked that this isn't common knowledge.

[@StressedSkull357]

TTK what about a comparison with the angled slanty pickups that some 80s guitars have, I wonder what they would sound like then

[@89blackcamaro]

I just got a trampas green custom 24 first 24 fret i played its great

[@petllazy8669]

Have it too... Amazing ♥️🎶🔥

[@jorgegvb]

TTK recommended watching the PRS 22 vs 24 video on their channel. It is worth checking out since Bryan played 5 minutes worth of clean tone. After watching both videos, I prefer the sound of the 24.

[@DavidGriffis]

Oddly enough the 22 sounded warmer and the 24 more defined. I liked the 24. But there are other differences, even between guitars that are the same, that can make the tone sound different. For example, no two wound pickups are truly alike. Or who wired the guitar. But getting back on point, I believe that the 24 is conceptually better since most neck pickups sound thin. And I have to agree with one of the comments below in regards to comparing pickups with a lot of distortion. It's very hard to differentiate when there's no clarity. But other than that I really liked this video. I learned a lot.

[@RJW14]

honestly the only thing I can't use is a 21 fret, I need that high A note on the B string for my music.

[@robsangg]

24 has a maple neck as well. 22 has a mahogany neck. Tones will be slightly different.

[@David13Rome]

In this video he specifically stated they had the same woods and said both had maple necks. So the comparison is valid.

[@dylansdad987]

The 12th fret is always the midway point of the scale length regardless of how many frets are on the fingerboard. This is why you get harmonics on it. The length of the string is halved so a natural harmonic occurs.

[@BrandochGarage]

The twelfth fret is halfway, that's how guitars (any stringed instrument) work. In any given scale length. The halfway point is the octave.

[@finlayfatknees]

this right here. i know old comment..but the further away from the octave (24th fret) the pickup is the more harmonic distortion it "picks up," right??

[@shinjiikari4629]

If you don't want to watch the whole thing then here's the difference: 3/4 of an inch in the fretboard length and neck pickup displaced further to the bridge. That's it.

[@braveandnew7817]

FAKE Guitar new right here!!!! Everyone knows you need 2 extra fingers to play 24 frets....Ty TTK...

[@thetonekingofficial]

haha. fake news.

[@sboy1955]

Wow! I am glad I watched this. You totally changed my mind about the PRS 24. I had made up my mind to buy a 22 to scratch my Les Paul itch. If all tone controls were equal in this demo, I really liked the neck pup tone on the 24 better. I assume there was no difference in the bending ease on either guitar? Thanks for the lesson..

[@joestevenson5568]

If there was a difference, it wasn't down to the number of frets

[@ashevilleguitar]

If you’re going to be playing any jazz I’d pick the 22 fret model for sure :) I like the tone of the neck pickup on the 22 fret much better. Just my 2 cents ✌️❤️🎸

[@islanderwinder]

Great Video I do find the neck pickup that is close to the 22 fret that is can be , like the PRS custom 22 & a les paul ,that is the sweet spot . a Gibson SG is a guitar with the neck pickup closer to the bridge (Basically it's about the same position of a 24 fret guitar ) but it's a 22 fret guitar .

[@thetonekingofficial]

Thank you.

[@Dustin2112]

Here's a little tone science for everyone concerning pickups: When Ted McCarty designed the Les Paul, he chose the 24.75 scale and 22 fret setup for a tonal reason. It allowed the neck pickup to be placed at the end of the fretboard WHILE being directly under a natural harmonic node. This is part of the reason Les Paul's have that sweet creamy neck pickup sound. While there are additional harmonic nodes moving towards the bridge, they are not as rich. Given the 25" scale length, PRS guitars, regardless of the number of frets, cannot place their neck pickup perfectly at the same harmonic node. This is a throwback concept that Fender might not have been fully aware of because of his lack of history with acoustic guitars; Gibson was aware of the importance of harmonic nodes because traditionally that's how they determined the best placement for centering the sound hole on an acoustic guitar. When PRS came along with the concept of blending a Strat and Les Paul, the perfect pickup placement was a compromise that he had to lose in order to find middle ground with their scales.

[@jwallguitar]

thank you.

[@deathmodeofficial4421]

Dustin 2112 actually Leo Fender specifically originally designed Fenders with 21 frets because he believed that the pickup placement with a 21 fret neck was superior in tone to a 22. They all have reasons for doing what they did, each believing they had the superior design and tone. Me personally I don't hear a huge difference.

[@nw1302]

Neck pickup placement on 21 and 22 fret Fenders is the same (24 the fret node). 22 fret boards extend beyond the neck pocket.

[@deathmodeofficial4421]

Norval Wallen I'm not saying I agree with what Leo Fender said or that I think like he did, just pointing out that he had reasons for his designs like PRS and Gibson and he did know some stuff about tone and pickup placement and all that

[@LightQuarterly]

Excellent observation. What some folks miss about music is that it is all about math; and harmonics. My intuition was correct, thanks for validating that :D

[@farazpoursorkh247]

Nice job, those were some pretty useful information. And on that topic...personally i think except the fact that we don't use the 24 and 22 fret that much so we shouldn't bother our selves with having less notes to play on the 22 freted guitar. However if anyone one is looking for a tone that really looks like classic rock they should definitely go for the 22 or even some of the fender 21 frets which are pretty cool. But in the end it all depends on your references and idea on what guitar you wanna actually play a modern or a classic look.

[@obijuan3004]

I'm not sure what is being used for the distortion but it has an annoying pop at the beginning of the pick stroke. If you do a comparison you also need to play clean for a true comparison. The distortion, besides having that crappy popping noise, should be an added test.

[@hillwellford9637]

Simple. If the scale length is the same, a 22 fret guitar (versus a 24) has more space to put the neck pickup further up the neck (away from the bridge). So it's a brighter sound. That, and of course, two fewer frets. There's no mystery, that's it.

[@drothberg3]

The neck pickup further from the bridge on the 22 fret makes the neck pickup more bassy, less trebly.

[@williamrusso3130]

The typical argument is that the neck pickup on 22-fret guitars are on the "sweet" spot, directly under the octave harmonic. Well, yeah, that's only true if the string is open, or if you're playing on certain frets (most of which won't have that original octave note above the pickup.) Most frets you play won't have that "sweet" spot, though. Harmonics move with your fingers.

[@ahaua1]

Excellent explanation between 22 and 24 fret guitars! To me, neck pickup on the 24 sounded better. Nice choice of music and kudos on your skills!

[@samcowell5465]

Great video, thanks. Very helpful to beginners like myself 👍

[@marcuswinheim4504]

With you not doing a clean test and not playing just the same riff or song back to back I can't tell much but maybe the 24 fret sounds a little "cleaner" to my ear if that makes any sense.

[@raginglunatik8979]

Once i got a 24 fret I found any less is very limiting. It also seems to make more sense as your lowest and highest note are the same. So both e in e std.

[@nico3641]

@9:11. 22-bridge @9:59 22-neck @11:07 24-neck @11:58 24-bridge

[@xaqlim]

Well, i can't understand why ppl dislike this video, because he's telling knowledge some of you did know before. In my case, i was thankful for this information, because i was never into a 24 guitar and so i didn't know it. What i can understand is, that ppl want to hear a clean tone comparison. It's much more easier to hear the difference and character of each guitar. Thumbs up for information. But i guess no mystery

[@justfunguitar1500]

Great vid, I went for the Custom 24 because I felt it retained the PRS style [rather than their Les Paul shape] whilst also having something different with the 24 frets, to tonely make it distinct from some of my other guitars.

[@robertlknezacek2281]

I own a se 24 and after hearing your demo I'm glad I picked the SE custom 24

[@emmanuelsaintsurin3741]

I ordered the Green one today can’t wait to put my hands on this baby😃😃😃😃😃😃

[@sumantaselim5661]

FOR THE ACTUAL TONAL COMPARISON -- Neck pickup on 22F : 10.00 - 10.48 Neck pickup on 24F : 11.06 - 12.25 ☺️😊☺️

[@RLMUD]

I have both, must say I like the 24. a little brighter, and tighter. when playing heavy distortion the 24 is a lot less muddy in the neck position.

[@playAgainMe]

I'm a 22 fret but have dabbled in the dark arts of the 24 fret on occasion.

[@kantvishi]

It's a shame to see people criticising this guy for not knowing this stuff earlier. So what? We learn new things every day. And very few of us actually bother to help others with the new information to enable them for better decision making...especially today when most musicians (read guitarists) are busy sizing each other up on knowledge, skills and gear, rather than enjoying music. And here we are posting toxic comments on a helpful video...wow! Some of us are totally making the most of our time. So considerate and not at all insecure of us to be doing that.

[@joestevenson5568]

Its not a helpful video, he outlines the absolute fundamentals of how a 24 fret neck works and then plays both guitars with so much distortion its pointless.

[@jesuzleonardo]

So, if I put a 24 fretboard on a stratocaster with floyd arose I should not have any issues? ,,please answer

[@dubster82]

oh my god. how can you only have just figured this out now

[@abjr2010]

some people are just plain slow. They discover something that was known thousands of years ago with harps and feel they have to do humanity a service by putting a video on the internet . I'm here because I wanted to see how lame this one was going to be.

[@NerdGasims]

abjr2010 you and me both and it's more lame than I thought it would be. Also if you look at a 22 and 24 fret guitar you'll physically see that the neck pickup position is different on the two. Personally I prefer 24 fret guitars because of the two extra octaves

[@abjr2010]

I like 24 frets and I tune my guitars and bass to D standard. The title of this "22 vs. 24 Fret Guitars - Mystery Solved" is what threw me the curve ball. I didn't think the "mystery" was going to be all this.

[@NerdGasims]

abjr2010 I figured it would be something similar to this but didn't think the execution and presentation was going to be this bad. Anyone that's played guitar for any amount of time this is common knowledge but I guess for him it's a new discovery. He also said in the video that he used google to look up the difference between 22 and 24 fret guitars and I'm pretty sure anyone that starts playing guitar will do the same to find out. Like I said it's something you can physically see on a 22 & 24 fret guitar then you just add 1+1 and you'll figure out that with a 24 fret guitar since the neck pickup is pushed back a bit closer to the bridge than a 22 fret one there will be that tonal difference. Also the amount of gain and distortion he used in this "demo" so people can hear the difference is well stupid. That's how a 13 year old that just got his first guitar would show off.

[@you_worm3340]

Next time I need help understanding anything I will remember you...you apparently know everything! (I didn't) I expect you wouldn't mind if I posted you as the place to go for all who don't know why on any issue. You probably have the answer to world peace, or poverty, or why some people are so stupid. But are just waiting to be asked.

[@InspirationNoel]

Would have been nice to hear some clean tones as well. Can you do a follow up video with some clean tones?

[@alanelias6884]

I am a long time Les Paul fan. Love the guitar and the sound however with short fatter fingers I was lucky to get pasted the high G! Having heard so much about PRS Guitars I bought a custom 24. Finally a user friendly axe. So the 24 was a gift and coming from a Gibson/Allman bros. sound I could not be happier. I fact I will buy double cut 24 fret guitar only!! Next off to a Paul Reed Smith American or a private stock, have to dream right?

[@drothberg3]

With the amount of gain used in this video, which to me is very high-gain, the 24 sounds better. If you use medium of low gain, though, the Custom 22 shines. That’s why they call it more vintage.

[@RJsCave]

great presentation for sure. you take time to research and that is nice to see for a change. I'm sorry but when are we going to hear the guitars natural tone? I really was hoping to hear the neck pups clean. I don't really think it's possible to discern the difference with all the effects. Maybe the 24 sounded a tiny bit brighter but that's distorted so how much of that is the guitar? Still great work tho. I think the answer is to get both 22 for rythm and the 24 for lead.

[@danielbruno2631]

really liked your review, thank you for postin, I currently own one a SE Custom 24 Koa Topping, and it's amazing, I don't think I actually like any other brand, I own different ones including the Mexican strat, I do like fenders but PRS Stole my heart. btw the way you pronounced peregrine falcon is wrong, I'm aso a Bird of prey Enthusiast, one of the reasons why I chose a prs... but it's ok.

[@Warbius003]

is it just me or is the intonation slightly better on the 24 fret?

[@thomaskolb8293]

It's a preference thing......but when you've played lots and lots for many decades you find BOTH have their place....even when one takes the ears a little to get used to....change is good.

[@DMSProduktions]

It's simple nodalities, different nodal points on the string will accentuate different frequencies and harmonics.

[@jvin248]

22 vs 24, as it relates to pickup tone, is like a Les Paul vs an SG because the SG neck pickup is located closer to the bridge than the Les Paul, even though both have 22 frets. Similar tonal differences are obtained between a Strat Neck and a Strat Middle pickup. Do take some cautions when comparing two guitars, the electronics effect the resonant frequency of the pickups and pots alone can vary 20% and caps can vary 10% and all still be 'in spec'... That's like imagining the controversy of one guitar being a foot longer or shorter than the other.

[@luvifue2294]

I chose 24fret because it reach high level

[@tsf82n]

what is the measurement (distance) between the two pickups on both guitars...? This also may produce a slight variant on the tone with pickup selector in the middle position...

[@Tomcaatt]

Stands to reason Dickey Betts being one of the first players to change over from a Paul to play one ,The 24 gives more bending ability , that’s it , and two more slide frets of course.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Cool video! I have been wondering what the difference was for 24 vs 22 frets as it is a debate that Ed Roman started a long time ago.

[@jean-francoisremillard9513]

Excellent job on this video, even though I am late to the party. Thinking about it, all I ever owned were 22 fret guitars, but I believe a 24 fret guitar would be a great addition to my collection and I am gonna tell my wife the Tone King said so... :)

[@paulchoate1]

Any difference in the “playability” between the 22 and 24?

[@Papa_O.A.M]

Great video and topic like always brother! I own both, 22 and 24 fret guitars. If I had to pick I'd go with the 24 fret guitar but still love the 22 fret guitars just as much. I actually started out with a 24 fret guitar, custom 24 from PRS, and just thinking that I find it more playable probably because I'm more comfortable with it since I started with one... not 100% though. Keep rockin' and making awesome content brother!

[@guillermo3564]

by 3:16 in this guy is already hurting my head. He calls himself the Tone King yet he's so surprised about these things? The 12th fret was the same distance? Is this guy just now learning about scale length? My son learned about 2 octaves at 12 yrs. old on the day he asked me why there were 2 dots on the fret where it connected to the body. I'm going to finish watching now just for comedy value.

[@SkipSidekick]

I can't play the guitar but I really want a PRS custom😂. I know that sounds stupid and at 54, I doubt I'll learn now! Although I've always wished I could play but it's hard to find time with everything else going on. They just look like an electric guitar should and the quality looks amazing. I would just like looking at it if I didn't play it 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[@artvertex4152]

I bought a S2 Standard 22 instead of 24 simply because is has nickle covered pickups. lol

[@patrickedwards2158]

This demo would have been a lot better with the amp played on the clean Channel with no distortion

[@stevegardiner8473]

Dear god. Neck pickup is not pushed down. Bridge is move forward, therefore bridge pickup is moved forward, nearer to neck pickup, which results in less tonal difference between the two. Similar to the difference between strat bridge to middle, compared to bridge to neck.

[@voxpathfinder15r]

This is the same thing as do you like the sound of Gibson LesPauls better or Gibson SG's better in the neck position. If you like the sound of Les Pauls better - than get the 22 fret PRS, if you like the sound of SG's better than get the 24 fret PRS.

[@johnjames2626]

24 on 25.5 inch scale for distorted and 22 on 24.75 for clean and overdriven sounds works for me. Sorry I don't play 25 inch PRS. Most people use neck pickup for upper fret lead tones, when you want guitar to sing. This is when 22 fret guitar shines.

[@tactrix1h]

There was 1 question that this video was suppose to answer and it never did, and I'm going to answer it for you, because it's the only real reason why someone looks this question up. And the question is, ARE YOU MISSING 1 TO 2 NOTES BECAUSE YOU HAVE A 22 FRET BOARD INSTEAD OF A 24. And the answer is YES, you are missing those 2 notes at the end. Not a "tone/sound", but actual notes. Have you ever heard those really nice high notes that a lot of the 80s metal bands do at the end of a solo, now sure some of them are harmonic squeals, but some of them aren't. They are simply the notes that you hit when you hit the 24th fret, and believe me you will feel it when you have a 21/22 fret guitar and you run to the end trying to hit that note and you just don't have the room left.

[@JayEff97]

I think you got it the other way around dude. Based on my research, the neck is longer on 24 yes, but joins the body on the same joint as a 22. Neck pickup doesn't move. To keep the scale length correct, the bridge will move up, and also the bridge pickup. So the neck pickup doesn't move up on the 24, it's the bridge and bridge pickup that moves.

[@drothberg3]

That is not correct. Look at the guitars in the video. The bridge pickup is right against the bridge in both guitars. The neck on the 24 extends into the body further, and the pickups are closer together. The bridge pickup is the same; the position of the neck pickup is the difference.

[@homegrownson]

Building Custom HH Tele & using PRS 4102 5 way rotary switch with one tone one volume, Tim Shaw Patent bridge and Seymour Duncan SH-6 Neck Distortion, was wondering if might have any wiring suggestions since you seem to know these as good or better then anyone else. Any and All help is appreciated and it is NOS 5way and have wiring diagrams for pre 2007 and after 2007 but seem to recall hearing something about Specific pickups might require a flip of magnet I have never done and not sure want to do on Vintage 84 Tim Shaw , Thanks and appreciate learning difference of 22 & 24

[@danielbrowniel]

Whatever you're plugged into sounds worse than a katana.. what on earth? is that a frontman with a 90s digitech multieffect?

[@milenadeltorto7158]

Nice. Honestly I dont think I hear the difference on my Galaxy s8. Maybe the 24 was a tiny bit not as full or rich. But very subtle. I've been eying the SE version and I love the trampas green but it seems like maybe only the american comes with the black pickup covers (which I like as well as the trem bar/stick). Anyway thanks. :)

[@Wargasm644]

Lol. People whining about distortion 😂. If you don’t like what this dude is doing, then go look at and listen to some other video. As for 22 vs 24 fret. I prefer 22. But I have plenty of 24 fret guitars. I prefer single cuts, but I have plenty of strat-style, V’s etc. I think the preference usually comes down to what you started on as a beginner. I’ll usually shop for 22 fret guitars, but if I really like a guitar, it doesn’t really matter if it has 30 frets. Some long-stretch solo work is a bit easier on 24’s. But most of my 22’s have Floyd’s or Kahlers. So if I need the extra range I’ll just use the trem...or harmonics. I like all guitars really. No sense in limiting yourself. 🤘🏻

[@AndyLifeInVideo]

With the 24 fret guitars, the pickups are closer together, which messes with my picking.

[@RX7821979]

Thank you!

[@jasoncasey8975]

I have the 24fret Trampas green PRS Sweetwater limited run, and the neck pickup placement also messes with my picking sometimes. Especially when i jump on it from my Les Paul.

[@rmGuera]

14 minutes of talk over something as idiotically simple as this. Christ, I thought tsa part of joke. But no... Ooooh no... outa here...

[@MicoOng]

wow...never knew about them bird inlays, i really thought it was just one bird flapping its wings. Thank you!!! I learned something new. =)

[@akeeperofoddknowledge4956]

All three of my electrics have 24 frets. I don't like settling for fewer - it just doesn't make sense to me!

[@bravinneff1]

The neck location - where it intersects with the body - is the same in both cases. What changes is that everything related to scale length shifts toward the headstock the amount that is different between 22 and 24 frets. So... 1. The neck intersection in both cases is the same. 2. The nut and headstock are further away from the body, on the 24 fret. 3. The neck pickup is in the same location ON THE BODY in both 22 and 24 fret. 4. The bridge on the 24 fret is further away from the back strap button, corresponding to the distance the nut and headstock are further away from the body, compared to the 22 fret. 5. The bridge pickup on the 24 fret is further away from the back strap button as well. 6. The 22 fret *looks right.* 7. The 24 fret *looks goofy* with the two pickups closer together, the bridge pickup and bridge further away from the back strap button, and the nut and headstock further away from the body. :)

[@seansmith6455]

Nice explanation. TK keeps saying the extra 2 frets "push" the neck pickup closer to the bridge. A more accurate way to describe what's happening is the extra 2 frets require the bridge and bridge pickup to be "pulled" closer to the neck pickup in order to maintain the same 25" scale length. It's the bridge pickup position that's shifting on the body of the guitar not the neck pickup position. I've personally always preferred where the neck is positioned on a 22 fret guitar vs a 24. On a 24 you have to reach a little further to get to the first position. Of course this is a relatively minor issue and a subjective thing but I always thought 22 fret guitars felt more natural to play.

[@Prajnana]

Here are two additional takes on this topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIfOi55spcuVncU kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3y4d3Z7a7iCd8k The 22 fret neck distorted tones have a 'roundness' (or tubbiness) to them that I personally find more pleasing than those with the 24 fret Custom. The most notable (no pun intended) difference is when single notes are played on the wound strings above the 7th fret. Bridge tonal differences are negligible to non-existent to my ear - as one would expect (one could argue that the neck pu magnets pull on the strings even when playing the bridge pu, but that is perhaps a second or third order effect). The 24 fret Custom did have more articulation than the 22. I'm wondering if this difference between the two would be as apparent with clean tones.

[@pcollenyt3683]

If you just look at the two instruments, you will see that on the Custom 22, the upper body cut-away meets the neck at the 20th fret and on the Custom 24 it meets the body at the 22 fret. The neck is set more FORWARD on the Custom 24, and the neck pickups are in the EXACT SAME POSITION on the body. On the Custom 22, the bridge pickup and bridge itself is located slightly more back to the rear or, v.v, on the Custom 24 the bridge pickup and bridge are both located slightly more forward. this is so easy to see that it doesn't even require measurement.

[@thedemocraticmouse]

can you do this for strats

[@jamescurnick1637]

The only reason I always get 22s is because in my head it's more compact and that somehow makes me happy...dunno why....just does!! I only have 1 24 and that's my Ibanez I think and all my other g and L guitars have 22!! 🤔

[@Eliseo_M_P]

22-fret neck pickups sound too swollen to me, especially with a humbucker. 24-fret neck pickups will sit in a mix better by having more clarity and by giving the bass guitar more room.

[@loganguitars3588]

Why does this man have every one of my dream amps?