23 HP KOHLER PRO / NO START / JUST CLICKS / HOW TO DIAGNOSE THE ELECTRIC STARTER

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[@JOEZEP54]

Nice job, the way you explained how to troubleshoot this problem was well done!

[@hunterbell3393]

Hey man I know you heard this a bunch but you did a jam up job explaining this to the common lawn cutter, absolutely accurate and helpful. 👌

[@watermanone7567]

Very nice video. In the old days we used to open the solenoid and reverse the copper contact ring to get us out of a jam until we could get a new solenoid. Is that still possible with the modern solenoids? Or are they sealed?

[@frenchispluss4976]

Thank you for your excellent explanation; it was great lesson.

[@kurtcressey2829]

My Craftsman made a clicking noise under the flywheel, DYT4000, I watch every KZbin I could find, had the thing all torn apart, went at it with a voltmeter and traced a wire up to the mower engagement knob come to find out last time I used it I neglected to disengage it when I stopped. What a dumb ass! I’m only admitting my stupidity hoping this will save somebody an afternoon of frustration. Thanks to all who take the time to make these videos.

[@laurijorgenson6683]

Thanks for sharing your learning experience. I’m certain you are not alone in it.

[@hungry1011]

Great video. I can find hundreds of videos of starter solenoid issues with other other engines that have that more traditional solenoid (the 14$ kind) but very few with the same type of starter solenoid package like I have on my Cub GTX 2000 garden tractor with a Kohler command Pro 640. This really helps. Which is the ground wire or how is it grounded? Mine is not even clicking. I went out and bought a new battery and it tests out and I have 12.52 vots to the solenoid with the key on. My switches tested out good. I want to make sure that unit is properly grounded and I can't figure out which is the proper ground wire so I can check conductivity? If I can arc the solenoid and turn the starter over does this mean I should change out the unit? Any help would be appreciated as I am a novice. Thanks!

[@togilli9]

great video my man.

[@nashguy207]

Good Video Buddy!!!

[@michaelgutter2004]

Hey, I got a Toro zero turn and it turns over but it won’t start. I replace the battery.Is this a symptom of the starter is going bad? Thanks

[@DefensorFortis]

Just changed thee starter on a Cub lt1550, and the gear powered up to engage the flywheel, but stops and doesn't retract but chatters a bit then stops. Full battery and no grounded out issues I can find...same issue?

[@jbcardin]

I'm not getting any power to the signal wire when turning the key to start. What might that be? Thanks. Great video!

[@jerrystauffer2351]

I had an intermittent no crank problem on a Toro Pro Line 120. Fought it for years and just had a bad ground

[@warwickdennis4114]

Very good, Thank you

[@frankdavidson9675]

just wondering why you reolaced the starter as well you could replace just the solenoid if if wss bad that it a $100.00 + job instead of $ 20.00 ???????????

[@doublewide6]

nice job MM1, I like to watch your troubleshooting methodology. Is the Kohler pro motor more like the command or the courage?

[@THEMOWERMEDIC1]

Sorry I should've been more clear in my video it is a command series engine, you know what they say it takes courage to buy a courage

[@THEMOWERMEDIC1]

Has metal rescue contacted you? I gave them your channel link so that they can get a hold of you to send you some free product to test out

[@doublewide6]

I used the product in my vise restoration video. I did not do a full 1 on 1 video of the product. I found it worked quite well. Eric's video was really good, but it would be cool to test side by side with vinegar, just a thought for your video possibly. Thanks for forwarding my info. Bob

[@jameshaywood944]

I had same problem put new starter still same problem put new battery on same problem just clicks but if i put jumper cables on starts right up valves are not out wack or anything

[@stevenramey8667]

I use an old stile relay. And set the power over I added an antra toggle switch. But the starter is still going 7-8 years after the fix 10 dollar repear

[@laurijorgenson6683]

I’d be interested to hear how you did this. Thanks for posting it.

[@stevenramey8667]

@@laurijorgenson6683 buy a automotive relay old style. Run battery + to one side. Than the old power to the other side of it. Now at the selonoid set the power over to connect the stater. Now get a monetary toogle switch to power the new relay. Now when you turn the key switch the selonoid well engage the stater. Than use the toogle to cranke it

[@WiedemannPhotography]

@@stevenramey8667 I did this and it seemed to solve my problem, but then it decided to crop back up a year later. So I decided to replace the starter/solenoid. Worked for a few starts thinking i had the problem solved. Came to it recently and did not want to start. Not sure where to go now with the problem. I got it going once by using a power probe and running power to the starter. After that i was able to turn the key on and start it. Such a wierd problem.

[@spartanj2957]

Hi I've got a 05 Kohler command 27 hp.some times the starter drive grabs and starts or just spins.sence they installed the last starter after 3 starts the key wouldn't start it ,so I added a new switch and it onky worked 5 or 6 times ,so I added a push b switch ran a wire from the solenoid to switch and wire from switch to batt.after disconexting the factory wire at the solenoid. So I have 2 problems ,any help you can give me thanks much .good day

[@THEMOWERMEDIC1]

First things first was the starter replaced with an OEM unit?

[@dylanbaker755]

I have same gt will start on starting fluid and die right away all new fule system line filter pump and carb no luck any info would be great

[@frankdavidson9675]

there is a solenoid on the bottom of the carb some have 2 wires some have one wire one wire(red ) should have 12v dc with switch on verify that that wire pushes on and it fall off that wire will cause the symtoms you have but it can be a more involved disc fuel from fuel pump to carb use pliers to remove clams turn switch key to start eng should spin lookat yu have disc.is gas running out if not sart at the tank loosen cap try the test again if gas comes leave cap loose till you can clean the tiny air vent you still have a fuel pump and a filter just a matter of elination to see the tble hope this helps

[@robertblevins5322]

I have a kohler courage 24 and the solenoid clicks and sounds like a dead battery. ive put three different fully charged batteries in it and even hooked jumper cables to it and its always the same!

[@michaelswarr4550]

probably the solenoid. Is it clicking repeatedly or just once when your turn the key?

[@robertblevins5322]

@@michaelswarr4550 It clicks repeatedly! I tried the screwdriver jumping both poles but still get nothing. How ever there is a small clicking sound by the flywheel when i jump those together

[@robertblevins5322]

The started actually tries to move just ever so slightly like it dont have enough power to turn fully or something. i dont know how to test a starter or id check that

[@jamieclifton4214]

Can you send me a picture single wire comes from down to starter thanks

[@hungry1011]

Question: When I use my multimeter to test DC Volts from the purple trigger wire to the negative cable of my battery I get 0.5 volts. When I do the same test with the Red wire I get 12.5 volts. My battery is new and it tests out to be good. I used a screwdriver to bypass the Solenoid switch and it made a big spark and knocked the screw driver out of my hand and I think I fried a fuse. What to do to get power through that purple trigger wire? There is no audible click.

[@frankdavidson9675]

sounds like you have 2 problems start over ---try the key do you get a click if not there is a 30 amp fuse between key switch and the soleoid some also have an amp meter this same wire check that fuse if its check this set your meter for 12 v dc pur red meter lead on white wire ( little bolt) on the solen oid conect black meter lead to any mounting bolt (ground) with key turned to start should read 12v dc if not find wiring error if you do have 12 v but no click replace solenoid one other test usea pair of pliers short 2 big lugs on solenoid dont mind sparks hold it does starter spin with that short if so that tells us the solenoid is bad so get a new one

[@playtimet.v7342]

Hey thank you for the video. Mines is still clicking even if I ark it out. Any suggestions ?

[@THEMOWERMEDIC1]

Bad brushes or commutator windings

[@frankdavidson9675]

if it clicks with the key try shorting 2 big lugs if it dont spin the starter then it 1 of 2 things the battery or the starter is bad try jumping it with a known good batt still wont spin its the starter is bad

[@bleepnsheep2310]

I have a Kohler courage 20 hp on my mower. I'm on my third replacement starter (non solenoid type) I replace they work for awhile then get weak and finally quit. I know my battery and solenoid are good. What am I doing Wrong? Any suggestions? .

[@THEMOWERMEDIC1]

Are you buying oem?

[@bleepnsheep2310]

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 Probably not. I'll give OEM a shot. Taryl fixes all on Y/T says they go bad often on Kohler motors. They have no compression release. Thanks for the reply.

[@rynosraceroom]

will the same stater work on a 25hp kohler

[@frankdavidson9675]

you can just replace the solenoid if the starer spins when two big lugs are shorted nothing wrong with starter

[@vitunetune4042]

Hey I got a husqvarna and I changed the starter and solenoid and still clicking can somebody else have a chance to figure out what going on thanks

[@Rajen51able]

Clean positive cable

[@btchhopperou812]

Disconnect the negative lead on the battery before attempting to remove the starter and attached wires.

[@THEMOWERMEDIC1]

Why

[@btchhopperou812]

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 Hell, why not? Not saying you, or me BUT you get people that either have no mechanical or chassis electrical experience... then you get a starter welded to the motor deck, a burnt +wire or some real idiot has a leaky carb or gas tank, etc. and burns his shed down haha. I just wouldn't want it to happen to someone that couldn't afford to mess their already broken mower up even more. I wasn't saying to 'put it in your vid' or anything like that- it IS a good informative video BTW

[@larrylewis1375]

U can use a regular solenoid to bypass the starter solenoid using a few wires and save u some money

[@THEMOWERMEDIC1]

No sorry you can’t

[@kevin9c1]

@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 Actually you could. The bendix is engaging. So you would wire in an external solenoid and connect to the terminal near the starter motor. The input to the solenoid would come either from the battery or the positive lug on the starter that you measured 12.3V. Then when you turn the key, two solenoids will fire. One engages the bendix (the one on the starter) and the other sends 12V to the starter motor. It should crank and operate just fine like that. A little bit of a hack but functionally legit.