23 Years in the Zone: Journalist and Author Gary Taubes Interviews Dr. Barry Sears

Gary Taubes is an award-winning journalist and author of five books, the most recent of which, The Case Against Sugar, argues obesity is a hormonal disorder triggered by sugar. Here, Taubes sits down with Dr. Barry Sears, a revolutionary biochemist who studies how to use diet to manipulate metabolism and fight chronic disease, and the New York Times best-selling author of The Zone: A Dietary Road Map and several other books. The two discuss a range of topics in the interview, such as the mechanisms that lead to insulin resistance and control inflammation, and the science behind the Zone, Atkins, and ketogenic diets.
Taubes and Sears share a lot of common ground in their thinking on these topics, but in the interview, Taubes probes the areas where they seem to diverge. His central questions for Sears relate to what he perceives as the absence of a clear stance on sugar in The Zone, as well as to how Sears' perspective on diet and metabolism have changed in the intervening years since the publication of The Zone in 1995.
Sears says he would not make any significant changes to the perspective he offers in the book. He describes what led to his development of the Zone diet, highlighting his early research on how hormones called eicosanoids relate to inflammation. His more recent research accounts for the role of other hormones called resolvents, which were not discovered until 2001.
Sears’ recent research also has focused on the importance of fermentable fiber and polyphenols. He and Taubes discuss how polyphenols affect gene transcription, more specifically AMP kinase, which Sears explains “orchestrates a wide range of other gene transcription factors that basically control our metabolism.”
After discussing the scientific advancements that have taken place since 1995, Sears tells Taubes they have “not changed one iota of what I wrote.” The Zone diet, he explains, was a working hypothesis, and “we now have a great number of published clinical trials under highly controlled circumstances to say, ‘Yes, it does work.’”
Read a full transcription of the interview here.
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[@nomad1517]

Dr Sears philosophy is so overlooked. One of the greatest minds out there.

[@suzannekazmiruk183]

So refreshing to see two intelligent people have a conversation and respectfully debate one another. When did this stop being the norm?

[@presence5426]

When ego became fashionable

[@Kay-rp1fz]

When Dr. Sears published his first book, he saved my life. Thank you Dr. Sears!!!!

[@FlipMacz]

The Zone is my love💓 Dr Barry Sears' message is sharper than a two-edge sword. He is the original and best artist of human health.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

I was introduced to the Zone Diet right around 1995. It has, no doubt, improved my quality of life immensely. I can envision a scenario where I wouldn't be alive today without it, and I definitely can envision a scenario where I would be much worse off without having come across it. I think you will find value in Morley Robbins' message as well (the answer is given away freely, BTW). He reveals a key SOURCE of the silent inflammation that the Zone battles so valiantly against. Carcinogenic Iron in Cereal Video -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnjFqHmqoq-Cn5Y Iron behaving badly: iron as contributor to inflammatory and degenerative diseases -- bmcmedgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1755-8794-2-2 Summary of Rogue Iron Accumulation in the Human Body -- veritascontent.blob.core.windows.net/audio/YTC_Archive/ytc010719-MorleyRobbins.mp3 Morley Robbins - My Theory Of Everything -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6KcZYWFd5qke9V3arcinogenic Iron in Cereal Video -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnjFqHmqoq-Cn5Y Iron behaving badly: iron as contributor to inflammatory and degenerative diseases -- bmcmedgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1755-8794-2-2 Summary of Rogue Iron Accumulation in the Human Body -- veritascontent.blob.core.windows.net/audio/YTC_Archive/ytc010719-MorleyRobbins.mp3 Morley Robbins - My Theory Of Everything -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6KcZYWFd5qke9U

[@sylviarogerson7662]

I started The Zone in 1996, and still follow to this day! It works! I love Barry Sears! He changed my life!

[@barbaralyn7019]

The tone and energy in their voices...

[@stayathomejack6300]

I would have loved for this to go on for hours! Two brilliant minds talking about such an a important topic.

[@songmansinatra120]

I did the zones for years, take the fish oil, but felt much better when I uped the saturated fat and cut the carbs

[@songmansinatra120]

my Hdl went up when i uped the saturated fat trigs went down also

[@MikaelVitalyVyacheslav-bh2fk]

Dr. Barry Sears ..........the best The Zone !

[@umanrosenberg2079]

all roads lead back to the Zone diet..its not easy, but it works!

[@DonnaLHaney]

It's not hard though. And it works for me too! I recently discovered via testing that I need to moderatly restrict both carbs and fats, I'm not candidate for Keto. I remembered reading the Zone a decade ago, tried it and gained the balance I needed.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

@@DonnaLHaney Look into Morley Robbins' Root Cause Protocol, which he gives away for free. You can spend on testing, but his answer lifted from the scientific research doesn't change. And ascorbic acid, hormone D supplements, HFCS, and glyphosate are all toxic, and Morley explains EXACTLY WHY (they all attack and deplete ceruloplasmin-bound copper, the "Jesus molecule" of the human body). Ceruloplasmin is probably a new word for most. IT IS THE MOST ENZYME WITH THE MOST AMINO ACIDS IN THE ENTIRE HUMAN BODY -- 1046. And it has 8 coppers. And it expresses in over 25 different ways, including ferro-oxidase, which prevents iron from going rogue in the human body when it isn't depleted. You haven't heard about it because chronic disease couldn't go from 4% in the 1940's to about 60% today if you knew about it (CHA-CHING!!!!). Oh, and ATP is worthless sludge. It need MAGNESIUM to be functional. Mg-ATP is the true energy molecule of the human cell. Your doctor doesn't know that, either! It is too important! Then there are 3,751 protein types in the human body that need magnesium, too (the magnesome). Oops, can't let that get out, either! The human "magnesome": detecting magnesium binding sites on human proteins -- www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3439678/ Magnesium in biology -- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_in_biology

[@assyriannahrin]

I did the zone diet in 2003 , it was great. I was able to maintain my weight just following this way of eating without any exercise

[@Lassking10]

Me too, then I got pregnant and hormonal...

[@metabolicentanglement6303]

Why did you stop the diet then?

[@Trendle222]

ive tried them all, and The Zone makes the most sense, nothing extreme either! you still eat Healthy carbs (if u eat some starch its just Very little if u want too on occasion) low sugar fruits ( i dont like high sugar fruit anyway) plenty of awesome Veggies and a lean protein, and for those that dont know , this is NOT a high protein diet or HIGH fat diet, hence the Name, THE ZONE, its being moderate and being in the Zone people!

[@user-it6zs5js6x]

I'm so impressed by Barry Sears! thanks for this interview.

[@barrittstephen2169]

A very civilized conversation that approached nutrition from a point of science, not charismatic dietisim. I felt like the fly on the wall; species: Brundal Fly, diptera sapient. ... Science based information, with a lot of vocabulary that I've not yet trained my brain to fully grasp to a point of conversational ease. I'll have to watch it again to mine the many great nuggets that were presented. I'd love to walk into my Dr.'s office and have a conversation about nutrition at this level. One that raises the bar higher than which medication will be prescribed to control my blood sugar. Worth the watch.

[@redmanmedicineapparel9299]

This is super informative! 🙏🏻

[@firebird7479]

I've tried Carnivore (it drove up my iron levels to the point of overload). I've tried low carb. I've tried keto. The only diet that kept me lean and with a lower amount of body fat was the Zone Diet. The problem I have with following it now is that he wants to chuck the egg yolks which is one food that is rich in nutrients. The yolk is like taking a multivitamin and mineral supplement. I also don't agree with his fear of saturated fats. Lastly, the Zone Bars use to be the ideal snack back in the late 1990s/early 2000s. Now they are crap and no better than eating a candy bar.

[@billyhw5492]

Throwing away egg yolks to just eat the whites is what is called an eating disorder.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

>>The yolk is like taking a multivitamin and mineral supplement. I also don't agree with his fear of saturated fats.

[@nancygatto4963]

This is why I tweaked his diet. He admits heart disease was inflammation and not cholesterol. So all my fats come from eggs, grassded butter and grassfed meat, using his 40/10/10 approach

[@MrMZaccone]

@@nancygatto4963 It's 40/30/30. 40+10+10 only adds up to 60%. What are you going to do with the other 40%?

[@MrMZaccone]

The problem with getting rid of the yolk of an egg is that the egg is no longer a complete protein and is more likely to spike blood sugar and insulin. The whole egg effects blood sugar to a much lesser degree.

[@user-hp7kz2vr7w]

Love the zone. Makes you feel so good.

[@richardlenaghan1905]

Would have been nice to hear Dr. Sears speak.

[@MichaelLoweAttorney]

Gary does a great job. By the end of this interview, I got the feeling Gary was interviewing another successful diet book author who has spent the last 23 years in perpetual confirmation bias mode.

[@nomos6508]

ahah exactly

[@brettbodie1576]

Your comment couldn't be further from the truth. You can take a blood test from many different third party organizations testing several factors such as your AA/EPA ratio which is a direct correlation to your level of harmful inflammation. There's so much evidence there's no question that this MIT scientist knows what he's talking about.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

The key word in your sentence is "feeling." It means something entirely different than "knowing." In 1995, a woman referred Entering the Zone to me. She said she had tried and failed every previous diet and had sworn off ever trying and failing again. She was a diet junkie, though, so she would still go to the book store to see what "the latest" was. Enter the Zone was on the book shelf. She leafed through it with no intention to buy it. Then she came across its "anti-inflammation" section. This piqued her interest given her aspirin bottle every two weeks habit. She didn't have much hope after so many failures, but she was desperate. This diet was cake to her. She wasn't hungry, the fat melted off, lethargy turned into energy, and her pain disappeared. She didn't "feel," she tested. Now she KNOWS! Her testimonial was included in Mastering the Zone. Her initials are BD. She might have been on 17 or 19 aspirin, so I might have gotten that detail wrong after all these years, but that is irrelevant. This diet worked WONDERS in giving her what was basically a Lazarus Experience. She recommended the diet to me, and I have no doubt my life is much better off for it. And it isn't just us. The athletes Dr. Sears has worked with to achieve heretofore never seen accomplishments is unreal! Dara Torres missed a 50m free swimming Olympic gold by 1/100th of a second AS A 42 YEAR OLD MOTHER!!! Two of the three most prolific female medalists in swimming used Barry Sears' principles, and two out two of the most successful oldest female swimmers (really male and female) are the same two swimmers -- Dara Torres and Jenny Thompson. I want to say the oldest swimmer on the US Olympic team was a "Zoner" for maybe 20 years running, maybe longer. The most accomplished female fencer known to exist uses Dr. Barry Sears' anti-inflammatory principles. Valentina Vazzeli is non-pareil. She's competing 10 years past what she should be -- and winning! Dean Karnazes -- the Ultra Ultra Ultra marathoner. 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days? Are you kidding me? A drug free team Tour de France Championship. The first international team to beat the NBA Olympians (and by almost 30 points)! That was the Italian team -- and it wasn't expected to make it out of Europe, let alone win the silver medal. Then there is Randall McCloy -- the lone survivor of the Sago mining disaster whose air failed and was exposed to more carbon monoxide poisoning than any other known survivor in history. He was so torched that his neurosurgeon called up Dr. Barry Sears and asked for help -- he had no idea who he was, he'd just read his book and was desperate. And you know a freaking neurosurgeon has to be desperate to call up some dude asking for help. Anyway, McCloy's eventual recovery from multiple organ failure was deemed a "miraculous." Feelings can be deceiving. BTW, I kept investigating and I found out someone who has identified the a KEY SOURCE of the silent inflammation that the Zone Diet fights Morley Robbins is the guy who uncovered it in the scientific literature. Robbins' and Sears' programs are synergistic, IMHO. Carcinogenic Iron in Cereal Video -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnjFqHmqoq-Cn5Y Iron behaving badly: iron as contributor to inflammatory and degenerative diseases -- bmcmedgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1755-8794-2-2 Summary of Rogue Iron Accumulation in the Human Body -- veritascontent.blob.core.windows.net/audio/YTC_Archive/ytc010719-MorleyRobbins.mp3 Morley Robbins - My Theory Of Everything -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6KcZYWFd5qke9U Morley Robbins - Magnesium, Copper and Iron Synergy - August 11, 2020 -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYqoeJl7bqmIgJY

[@amandamcdowell]

Who doesn’t eat asparagus for breakfast? Come on Gary! It’s in my omelette every day

[@jankowalski6338]

Gary,me and many more.

[@user-hp7kz2vr7w]

Asparagus IS a nightshade vegetable, it causes pain or développés artritis in thé body.

[@thomasgronek6469]

Thank you for the presentation. Question: IF one was fully adapted to fat after only 2 weeks, why would the keto study subjects be hungry after 5 hours (or any hours)? Wouldn't the body just liberate energy from the adipose tissue (which would prevent, or down-regulate the hunger signal) ? The questions were based on personal experience; once I was fat adapted, I was never hungry, until I was skinny. An intuitive experience included (for my sister and me); I had a reaction to food, and inflammation happened (10 pound weight gain in 2 days),,, I found myself in the seafood aisle, and stuffing raw tuna in my face as soon as I got into the car. I believe I naturally sought Ω3 fatty acids.... I had NO information about Dr Sears' proposal, and it worked,,, strangely enough, my sister had a very similar experience with inflammation and food purchases, she did the same thing with sardines,,, we hadn't talked about it until after she and I responded the same to the inflammation, neither she nor I had any knowledge about the anti-inflammatory characteristics of Ω-3 FA. Many thanks again.

[@rogerdodger5415]

I always love Gary Taubes. Dr Sears sounds like a very smart guy but my experience says he is off the mark. His mention of fiber being important for constipation is a giant red flag. I have been carnivore (pretty much zero carb and zero fiber) for a couple of years. I often eat once a day. I like this way of eating a lot.

[@gigid9606]

what? FIBER IS IMPORTANT for constipation. Are you a robot, you mean you eat 100% protein and have no constipation? You are probably not human than

[@drirene57]

Yes. There are a lot of people who report improvement in GI symptoms and resolution of constipation with the elimination of fiber from their diets. Everyone is different. If you’re healthy and happy keep doing what you’re doing. If not, explore other options. But they eat protein and fat, not just protein. Check out KZbin videos on the carnivore diet.

[@metabolicentanglement6303]

@@gigid9606 You need to check dr. Paul Mason's lecture on fiber, and you will probably change your mind on fiber.

[@tubetime39]

@@metabolicentanglement6303 I don't seem to have a problem. I did before though. This has been and is my experience.

[@ginoasci2876]

i didn’t know that journalists are so combative or is it just Gary, because Dr. Sears really knows what he’s talking about. Gary said this was his first interview, but he acts like he’s the doctor instead of the interview or journalist collecting information. it’s a real drag they the whole interview.

[@AJTramberg]

Because Gary has spent most of his career as the "insulin/sugar" hawk, and he's wasnt getting the confirmation as explicitly as he'd like.

[@patricka.hartnett6633]

Interesting views; nearly fell off my chair: Tuscany population longevity/ research... “despite coca cola's best efforts, they probably couldn't get coke machine way up there in the hills” 😂

[@theskyehiker]

The zone diet was the first diet I followed that made sense to me on a scientific level. But because it was so low in fat, in the long run it couldn’t keep it up. It was fascinating to watch these two geek out on the science involved.

[@presence5426]

Low fat?

[@eduardojaimegonzalesmedina5820]

EXTRAORDINARIO

[@robinengland5799]

The Zone really help me improve my health for many years, but my fasting glucose started climbing. I switched to keto and all my numbers improved. The only thing I dis!like about the zone was Dr Sears became a product selling machine.

[@brettbodie9191]

It's a business and if his products are true to what he's preaching then your criticism is ridiculous

[@robinengland5799]

If it works for you I certainly encourage you to use it.

[@lazytitan5410]

I have a question, I'm on 11 blocks per day standard for a female, I train 5 times per week (I do crossfit) and I want to lose more body fat, I was losing some but I feel like I have plateaued as I stopped losing as much as I had planned to. I was going to cut down my blocks to 8 per day from 11, is that too much of a jump? Open to thoughts, thank you!

[@DS-mr7gr]

I ran into the same issue a number of years ago when I was on the zone, something I’m considering get back onto as the last eight weeks on keto have not yielded the anti-inflammatory results I desired. The recommendation given to me when I called the zone support team was to cut back one block of carbs and add one block of fat at each meal. So my blocks were 4P 4C 4F initially, then changed to 4P 3C 5F. Although I’m not a health professional and can’t give medical advice, you may want to start with that. If after 4 to 6 weeks, you don’t start noticing a difference, you may want to scale back on the number of blocks you are consuming, or increase your physical activity, if feasible. Best to you.

[@MrMZaccone]

Doses of fish oil as high as Dr. Sears recommends have been associated with a significantly higher risk of Atrial Fibrillation. What now?

[@nonewhatsoever1000]

Diet aside, Sears is nonsensical in his arguments. E.g. he argues that polyphenols in urine correlate with longevity in a Tuscan population. The polyphenols, he argues, activate AMPK. Yes, in vitro. Taubes points out that the polyphenols in urine are a result of kidney function and that insulin resistance and diabetes affect kidney function. This means the LACK of IR and T2D is the root cause of polyphenols in urine because the kidneys work well. The longevity of these people is therefor associated with LACK of IT/T2D in the first place. The polyphenols in urine are a marker for good kidney function, so basically the efficient elimination of polyphenols from the blood. That is all that can be said of the association observed. Our body does not like polyphenols very much. They are poorly uptaken and are quickly eliminated. The interpretation of the association could also be: they lived longer because they eliminated polyphenols more efficiently. But, well, vegetables are godly, so they cannot do harm. Throughout the discussion, Taubes scratches the surface of Sears arguments and finds no much ground. Sears argues that "the right amount of protein" is the right thing to do, but does not say, what that means. How does the "right amount" change when maintaining a keto diet? Or doing CR - carbs vs very low carbs. Other argument: we need fermentable fibre. Taubes points out the cultures without access to vegetables thrived on fibre-free foods. Yet, Sears ignores this argument. Sears talks that the microbiome eats up the mucous in the gut without fermentable fibre. But high numbers of these mucinophilic bacteria, like Akkermansia muciniphila, are associated with low inflammation and good health. Ketogenic diets have been shown to increase A. muciniphila. Sears does not make sense. He is spitting out information without wisdom.

[@gigid9606]

do you even know what you are talking about or you just biased because you believe in keto diets? To each their own

[@metabolicentanglement6303]

Very well said sir, very well said. Dr Sears seems to see just some of the problems, and his point of view is 40-50 years old. He stuck with it despite all the evidence that science got in the last yeares. The idea of calorie restriction diet is complete bonkers. We didn't evolve with intentional calorie restriction. Given the chance, our ancestors were eating until they can't get another bite. And we hunted down into extinction all the megafauna on earth just because we were searching for more fat and protein. And I'm getting feed up of all those people that keep on trying to subscribe some magical powers to all plants. Kudos to Gary Taubes tough, although I think he was too polite in trying to preserve the ego of Dr Sears.

[@jfinca]

One is a Dr and scientist, the other a journalist. Nobody really knows jack,just experiment on yourself.

[@brettbodie9191]

Wrong from top to bottom. You do know there are blood tests to prove if a diet is working for you right? Unless you are willing to take blood work that shows things like your AA/EPA ratio you are just talking. Blood work doesn't lie. I have done this already while eating The Zone Diet and the tests speak for themselves.

[@lovetoedit]

Gary was bugging me at the end... I came here to listen to Dr. Sears not an inquisition :(

[@m.fender2989]

Why do we all look like death beyond age 60?

[@brettbodie1576]

The things that keep us alive also eventually kill us.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

Have you seen the Queen of England's skin? It looks better than most people half her age. Dr. Sears has a partial answer. The main issue, IMHO, was revealed by Morley Robbins. We are being denutrified and toxified by a compromised food system (especially processed foods). Carcinogenic Iron in Cereal Video -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnjFqHmqoq-Cn5Y Iron behaving badly: iron as contributor to inflammatory and degenerative diseases -- bmcmedgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1755-8794-2-2 Summary of Rogue Iron Accumulation in the Human Body -- veritascontent.blob.core.windows.net/audio/YTC_Archive/ytc010719-MorleyRobbins.mp3 Morley Robbins - My Theory Of Everything -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6KcZYWFd5qke9U Morley Robbins - Magnesium, Copper and Iron Synergy - August 11, 2020 -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYqoeJl7bqmIgJY PS -- the author of Iron Behaving Badly was literally knighted for his iron toxicity in humans research. The Queen knows, but she's not telling us!

[@nomad1517]

Just to let this sink in. His family died in their early 50s. He's 75 as of 2022. Not bad.

[@Trendle222]

my brain hurts 48min in LOL

[@billyhw5492]

17:17 Human adipose tissue is mostly palmitic acid. How could it possibly be bad for you? That's insane.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

I've heard that up to half of it can be made up of macrophages. And those macrophages can be loaded up with iron if your ceruloplasmin-bound copper (expressing as ferro-oxidase) is depleted. And that can be depleted if you magnesium, copper(+1), and/or retinol status are/is low. And metallic iron filing fortification messes it all up. Carcinogenic Iron in Cereal Video -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnjFqHmqoq-Cn5Y Iron behaving badly: iron as contributor to inflammatory and degenerative diseases -- bmcmedgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1755-8794-2-2 Summary of Rogue Iron Accumulation in the Human Body -- veritascontent.blob.core.windows.net/audio/YTC_Archive/ytc010719-MorleyRobbins.mp3 Morley Robbins - My Theory Of Everything -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6KcZYWFd5qke9U Morley Robbins - Magnesium, Copper and Iron Synergy - August 11, 2020 -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYqoeJl7bqmIgJY

[@celestebinus6142]

Could it be that it is so bad that the body encapsulates it in the fat cells to keep it out of the way and under control?

[@x.y.7385]

Although I find discussions like this interesting given by the most followed people regarding diet...keto, lfhc, carnivore, etc, etc,...in the end the average american goes for a yearly physical, gives blood, pees in a cup, the doc looks at the result and gives you a script for what they think is wrong. We don't have docs that will run these obscure lab tests and recommend a diet based on results. We also don't have the money to find other docs that might delve deeper onto what may be causing our health issues because insurance won't cover it.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

You are responsible for you own health. If you outsource it to unknown people, well, you will get what benefits them, not you.

[@nitashah0]

Gary Taubes is fantastic 👏🏾 👌 🙌

[@brettbodie7270]

Yet it was Dr. Sears that seemed to be educating him in this video

[@kerilockwood7819]

Jesus. Animals don’t have to use their brains this much when it comes to eating. Nourishment is becoming an advanced science.

[@javiercaceres6367]

Interview ? The interviewer should ask and then shut it's mouth. Seems Mr Taubes used the opportunity of talking with Dr. Sears to promote himself instead of gaining knowledge from Dr. Sears. It's Ok for the interviewer to question the interviewee's ideas, but not confront them otherwise it turns into a debate.

[@pootstevens]

Howard Beal is assassinated in the end of Network. IM MAD AS HELL AND IM NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!

[@kennethbent6423]

If I had to follow this doctors diet I think I would be cutting off my fingers

[@user-hp7kz2vr7w]

Thé zone IS great, you feeling so good. You feeling calme and you sleep liké a baby. Love thé zone.

[@jfinca]

Dr sears doesn't like grains but he loves the Japanese diet which has alot of rice in it. Love Sears but don't understanf the contradiction.

[@margnielsen8764]

Did you esteemed professionals really refer to ʻthe ...boys’? Were there no women involved? This is concerning if only males (white?) were involved in the studies. This should be acknowledged.

[@jankowalski6338]

Women are involved in the research. They make the best coffee.

[@Jeph629]

Nothing more than an outdated colloquialism (he's speaking of 1972). Labs and med schools then were almost all male. But the women involved in our work were always phenomenal to work with AND were considered "one of the boys".

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

Sears thinks the brain is in control of digestion when in fact that could not be further from the truth. 99% of digestion is controlled by the eccentric nervous system which is completely autonomous from the Central Nervous system in the brain and the peripheral nervous system attached to the brain. They do talk to each other but the brain does not control digestion..

[@AJTramberg]

That was a little awkward.

[@Trendle222]

just cant stand when people that dont know what they are talking about, putting this in the KETO or Adkins genre, its not

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

Both of these guys are wrong. They both do not understand epidemiological studies yet Sears will point to Japan high fish diets. They are not eating fish high in EPA and DHA. Also traditional Okinawan’s live longer and have less disease than mainland Japanese and eat virtually no fish. Also virtually all of the Blue Zones eat high starchy carbohydrates.

[@brazenbull636]

The interviewer is like the Bill Lumberg of nutrition/fitness. Whenever he disagrees or goes naysay he does that fake stretch/coffee cup in hand/"eeeeh" shit..

[@In-N-Out333]

Barry has very bad teeth for a health-conscious scientist.

[@brettbodie9191]

So do people in Ikaria and Sardinia but they are healthier and in better shape than someone who eats In-N-Out

[@j.goebbels2134]

Should have seen this dude 2 years ago, when he got really really fat claiming he knew the secret as to why we get fat. But now he is on hormones and steroids and pretends he is in great shape. Ha.

[@gigid9606]

men dont go on hormones but why dont you share a link showing proof instead of gossiping about someone just because you dont agree and trying to ruin their reputation. I would love to see the actual info that made you spew out this info

[@j.goebbels2134]

@@gigid9606 Not sure what you are babbling about.

[@drirene57]

That’s what happens on a ketogenic diet, the fat melts off.

[@rokker333]

Who of the two are you talking about? Can you explain a bit further? How do you know what he is taking? No offense just curious.

[@cleangreen2210]

@@rokker333 Most American men literally eat/drink female hormones from chickens/cows. Which is why betas like Taubes have to inject male hormones replacements.

[@amandamcdowell]

Who doesn’t eat asparagus for breakfast? Come on Gary! It’s in my omelette every day