23SP Class #5: Checking (Out) Your Privilege

[@erkl8823]

Him teaching those kids "I'm not sure if we should assume *anything* at all" is so very rare & important. Respect.

[@jpbrooks2]

The professor asked the question, who are the white people who don't have privilege. And I, as an African American, am tempted to answer that I can't think of any. There appear to be, from my point of view, varying degrees of privilege among whites in different economic classes. But all whites appear to participate in a system that grants them some degree of privilege. JPB

[@colleenabuehler7688]

You are sick #1- #2 take the race out of it!

[@bobbygene8274]

So, jpbrooks, are you an American or African? (You are obviously a racist.) But, what ever. You can't be both. But on to the REAL question, JPBrooks2. In American, name one "privilege" that a caucasion can have that a black man or woman CAN'T have. You know, like caucasion entertainment television, or the caucasion congressional caucus, or the national association of caucasion people (NAACP) or caucasion only grants or scholarships.....wait there AREN'T any of those things for caucasion people, because that would be racist. But, oddly enough, there are Black versions of all of those, and more. "But all blacks appear to participate in a system that grants them some degree of priviledge". Seriously? @@jpbrooks2

[@jstgermain256]

It's refreshing to see such a devoted and competent teacher.

[@YeetoLavito]

​@@jpbrooks2Comes down to the critical thinking aspect. Gotta ask yourself if that's really the case. Or is it the information you provide yourself access to or the view of the cultural group you identify with providing a lense to view things through. Things we all have to ask ourselves as we all have biases.

[@peachykeen7634]

Our neighbor was a diversity hire at his job, and when he found out that he was a diversity hire, he hated his job. He felt so self-conscious, he felt like he could never tell if people were telling him the truth about his performance or the quality of the work he was doing. He really wished that he could’ve just gotten hired for the merit of his work. Maybe he really was the best candidate for the job, but he’ll never know because they specifically were looking to fill a diversity quota.

[@Theresistance64]

I quit a job once I found out I was a diversity hire. Fact is, I had the qualifications and performed above average, but that fact was an insult to me.

[@swardlertv1372]

only quote hire that makes sense is integrating disabled ppl at a certain company size

[@tiagodagostini]

Exactly! Diversity hires and quotas only PROMOTE racism. RAcism can only vanish if not a SINGLE diferentiation is made by government and companies.

[@tiagodagostini]

@@swardlertv1372 And even that has a limit. In my country there are laws that force companies to hire a certain percentage of disabilited people, but that percentage is HIgher than the real number on society, so companies fight for people for them being disable, not for them being even moderately capable. SO some deaf people are hired to sit in their desk and do NOTHING!

[@christheisgen]

as a white man i wish i had his problem. i shed no tears for his feelings. he got the job and is making that paycheck

[@nwinburn]

I'm half black/half Mexican, born and raised in Mexico City. I went to college in the US from 1996 to 2000 and lived in Washinton DC and San Francisco for a total of 12 years. I never, ever, ever heard anything about white privilege until very recently. The left introduced that term and that ideology to keep minorities controlled under the false sense that since they are "less privileged" they need to depend on the government and keep white people controlled under the false sense that if they don't behave a certain way, they are bad people. Look at that girl who thinks she has white privilege because she has never been pulled over. I feel really bad for her. It is a control mechanism very similar to slavery, except that the slaves don't realize they are slaves. But they are indeed psychologically enslaved.

[@paulhardy8245]

This is the best take on the reality of what "white privilege" is that I have ever heard. It's a control mechanism, pure and simple.

[@prissylovejoy702]

That’s Critical Race Theory at work. It’s a whole web of lies that’s been worked out to bring us all down. They’ve been working on since the 60’s I believe.

[@Bigjefe96]

White privilege is indeed real, and it has many forms. The only thing I agree with you is that maybe the term is thrown around a lot in irrelevant contexts or to guilt some people. There’s colorism in Mexico bro, idk how you don’t realize that, in the telenovelas it’s all white skinned Hispanics… in America blackness or browness are relatively accepted as long as you assimilate into white culture. People have to code switch to appear more “professional”. An average minority speaking in their native, cultural tongue is less likely to be taken serious vs an average white guy of the same level

[@Bigjefe96]

Thats also a crazy comparison you made… slavery was brutal and cruel. The worst thing a white person can feel about being called privileged is guilt. No where near the same.

[@paulhardy8245]

@@Bigjefe96 no, that's an apt description. There are different types of slavery. All it means is to control someone and use them for your own benefit, which is exactly the goal of telling someone they have white privilege. Use of the word slavery doesn't necessarily reference past instances of it

[@HostileTakeover555]

I’m so thankful that there are still professors like this guy.

[@mariuszuzulin1801]

rare case

[@fetB]

im surprised they havent fired him

[@thinking4myself676]

Yes 🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@sicsinnerindisguise]

need people like him in south africa

[@grizzlygrizzle]

It would be great if all professors taped their classes and put them online. Parents could get a sense for what's going on in classrooms. My one criticism is the absence of the consideration of individual preferences, choices, mistakes, disciplines, self-indulgences, and personalities in consideration of what is "deserved" by people, and in the consideration of the limitations on equality as a social goal. Some people are honest, hardworking, friendly, and level-headed, and some people are dishonest, lazy, irascible, and foolish, and most of us lie somewhere in between. These individual differences are going to have a great impact on where one ends up in the heap. Even in the Jim Crow south, there were black doctors, lawyers, and successful businessmen, and there were plenty of poor white trash. -- Viewing these issues through the lens of group identity, whether involving race, class, or some other group identity, tends to promote the idea that individual differences don't make a lot of difference, and tends to persuade students that their individual strivings to behave more honestly, industriously, and in more friendly and level-headed manners won't amount to much. This seems to me to be a fundamental error in understanding the human condition.

[@MarlynneStruwig-je8qr]

As a white minority in south Africa I face systematic racism in the form of over 117 anti white race laws affecting my ability to find a job get promoted and go to university. Laws that has been in place all my adult life.

[@hmanuel7138]

I don't know why people thìnk systemic racism will be a cure for racism. It won't.

[@MegaAvalonn]

It's the same here in Canada. Never experienced the "historical benefit," but I've certainly experienced the present payback my entire life.

[@erkl8823]

​@@MegaAvalonnsame goes to you Canadians, come to America, it's not great rn, but we're at least trying, more than can be said of almost any other Western nation (Germany is considering deporting en masse, which would be amazing, & more progress than I thought possible, we've been on the verge of passing the point of no return for awhile & may have actually already passed.

[@hedonismbot3274]

@@erkl8823 we have passed that point i believe. Unfortunately.

[@benchinny-ev3xe]

My dad is white and he "got" to do rotating shift work in a factory until he was 50, which gave him hearing loss and worn down knees to the point he cant even walk properly, to be able to support my mum raising 5 children. What a privilege

[@biggy_fishy]

Fumbled it. My family too, we apparently fumbled for 400 years, as that Doctors kid said. He has two parents who are Doctors, my mom was a single mom and a head start teacher, but I'm privileged and he isn't....

[@LuckysLair]

“They” would say, “he was privileged to have a job, which he only got because of his skin color”. You can’t win the argument because you are whyte every single thing is based off of that…that’s the way it’s set up

[@charlesg7926]

The white professor reminds me of a smarter version of Edward Norton, unapologetic of who we are, and I’m all here for it

[@norapodlasky8278]

OMG I'm sooo sorry for your father this is insanity. Poor man. Hope he gets better.

[@benchinny-ev3xe]

@@norapodlasky8278 he is actually, after all us kids were in school mum went to tafe and then university and is now an accountant. Which gave my dad the chance to change jobs to a lower paying less taxing job, as well as get a double knee replacement so he can walk without pain now.

[@therustedmonkie4787]

What is so wonderful about this class is the multiple miss labeling of white privilege. Many scenarios they discuss turn "white privilege" is actually a class issue, income issue, status issue, consequence issues.

[@commonsenseconservative3226]

A white person from Appalachia is not going to have more privilege than a black student whose parents are accountants and family income is $150k.

[@jamesscott9914]

You Are Right ! And the prof isn't getting it !|!

[@therustedmonkie4787]

@@alyssapeachy9936 That's not white privilege. That's called security. You feel secure in your surroundings. That only happens when a positive authoritative presence is around and gang related activity has been quelled. Get out of here with "walking out the door is white privilege." That statement alone is so asinine and shallow.

[@andrewgrant50]

@Alyssa Peachy well as a black man I only had that fear due to the news & fear mongering... my perception changed having many encounters with police either they were actually helping me or I was in the wrong

[@deelove2793]

@@andrewgrant50 I know hundreds maybe thousands of black folk who have never had any types of encounters with the police. They actually do go outside and participate in society. I wonder what is going on in our area where we aren't seeing black people being stopped for going outside of their house.

[@SandShark350]

These kids don't realize that what they're really talking about is classism based almost solely on wealth. Money doesn't care what color you are.

[@SCHMALLZZZ]

Right, this isn't the British empire where the Whites get automatically put on top of the social hierarchy in relation to the colonized peoples.

[@bookworm598]

It seems like everyone assumes all black and Hispanic people are poor and all white people are rich or at least middle class. Which is very much a stereotype

[@dereksavastano]

Girl in the middle looked terrified, But yeah thats a great point brother. If a Stanford grad gets a job over me, regardless of their race the Stanford education was something I couldn’t pay for so fair play to them.

[@rickyperez6785]

Classism and racism can intersect. Black and Latino people are disproportionately low income compared to our white counterparts. Though, there are successful BIPOC, it’s not proportional to the population size.

[@reasonablevegan]

I thought this kind of conversation wasn’t allowed at colleges anymore. I’m glad to see this.

[@g00ts]

It's pretty one sided tho. Prof gives a bit pushback, but no student does.

[@reasonablevegan]

@@g00ts hopefully after a few classes they relaxed and started thinking further outside the box.

[@reasonablevegan]

@@g00ts I don’t agree with everything this professor does, but he has a great video going over police stats. The members of the class guess how many unarmed people are shot by police and of course they are very wrong. If there close friends aren’t controlling their thoughts too much, I’m guess they left that class with a new outlook.

[@randytyson7262]

What?! These are the ONLY kinds of conversations allowed on college campuses these days.

[@randytyson7262]

Problem with that video is when they compare the "likelihood" of being killed by police based on skin color. That's the stat race grifters like BLM use to fool people into buying their propaganda, because they claim that the likelihood of blacks killed by police is higher because blacks only make up about 14% of the population. Making the comparison that way is a fallacy, because police do not interact with the entire population. When you compare the percentages correctly, according to the number of people by demographic that the police interact with, you find that the percentages of people killed by police are just about even between whites and blacks.

[@mostlyanchors168]

I’m just mostly impressed that he’s teaching critical thinking in a college and he’s not being shouted down by a bunch of brainwashed students. I’m also equally impressed that the students are going along with the Socratic conversation and may even learn something. Too many of these former islands of independent thinking are now more focused on safe spaces and other nonsense that will do those students no good at all in adulthood.

[@Harrisx5]

Give it time

[@eccotom1]

This is a normal class lol?

[@mostlyanchors168]

@@eccotom1 by the definition of what I remembered them being; pushing us out of our certainties and leading us to think.

[@darrenbiby1980]

It's similar to most discussions I had in college classrooms.

[@jeffdavis8811]

@@eccotom1no laughing here

[@tianamarie989]

"All you white woksters"😅 I love how he's casually triggering people but there seems to be rules in place to prevent outbursts so that a conversation can happen. This is a real conversation talking about real points in this argument. This is amazing.

[@NeverTheSame]

It's a double standard they impose. They act incredulous when you call them a wokester and act like the word doesn't exist, but they're more than happy to call anyone else alt-right, a bigot, a TERF, or whatever, and we're supposed to accept their terms and definitions.

[@melechdomeyhwh]

What's white woksters

[@theyabiq]

@@melechdomeyhwha white workers

[@wifi_was_here3330]

@@theyabiq no, it means woke people, woke-sters

[@brak1296]

White progressive types. People who believe in crt, equity, supports intersectional identity politics, etc.

[@Shoutinthewind]

It is very brave of you to put these discussions on KZbin. It is also very brave of your students to be willing to participate.

[@liamlad1]

Unfortunately that is a huge part of the problem. It shouldn't take "being brave" to have a civilized discussion about controversial topics.

[@SchmulKrieger]

But unfortunately actually nobody got his point. As a Jew I can tell you Nazis did and do believe that Jews have a Jewish privilege throughout history. The issue with ”white privilege“ exactly the same, not talking about it, but assuming it constantly, as many people in the masses in Germany assumed just that Jewish privilege is true and should be punished. Therefore one can say ”white privilege“ is the extension of theory of Jewish privilege incorporated in the Race Theory of the Nazis. It's exactly the same. That's why he probably asked: what are y'all gonna give up then?

[@gamergodofjustice]

@@SchmulKrieger I can see where you are coming from and it makes a lot of sense. Though I doubt its actually the cause of this behavior in any way. Honestly I think anyone that isnt in a good position in life will always find somebody else to blame for their misfortune because its easier to be a victim and blame the world around you then to pull yourself up by the boot straps and make changes to get the life you want.

[@SchmulKrieger]

@@gamergodofjustice it's not always possible. If you get fired several times because people tell things about you belonging to a certain group is making disbelieve in all its meaning. If you then open your mouth and speak out your statement about it, people say this what people said in the clip, but you still have advantage of being a white Jew over others, even when the others are rich. Here in Germany there is a term for those people who benefit from their privilege to be a victim (assumed), it is „Berufsopfertum“ (literally: professional victimhood).

[@gamergodofjustice]

@@SchmulKrieger If people lie about you leave, if people persecute you go somewhere else, there is no inherited privilege or disadvantage in life based on race only a victim mindset that keeps you locked in place. I live in a 90% black 5% white 3% Hispanic and 2% asian city, I have been denied jobs souly based on the fact im white, so instead of complaining I went and found a job that would hire me, then I showed I was a honest hard worker, I got promoted then I quit for a nicer job, moved around, and still live in poverty but I'm happy even though I'm still mistreated souly on the fact im white. Im not a victim but I'm also not privileged because of skin color. Like i said anyone not doing well in like is likely to blame another group. Nazi's did it to jewish people. Communists did it to, independant people. Black people do it to white people. People that are unhappy with their lives will always blame others instead of changing.

[@sitcheyr9352]

Man….these kids have been so brainwashed and indoctrinated. It’s heartbreaking. I am not sure they understand the absolute dangers this will lead to.

[@Zamo14]

Very sad

[@tjhollen]

I AM sure they don't.

[@BradSandoval]

Lol what’s the danger of recognizing that racism didn’t end with MLK

[@tjhollen]

@@BradSandoval Idk where to even begin... reading or watching Thomas Sowell would be a good starting point for you.

[@BradSandoval]

@@tjhollen I’m not a big fan of most ideas coming from the Hoover institute- but I’m happy to hear your own opinion on why it’s so dangerous for college students to recognize the possibility that, on average, life is easier easier in America when you are born with white skin. Is that really such an insane idea to you? And it really doesn’t matter if you believe it to be true or not- there are plenty of studies included ones cited in the video to back that up. (And yes they take into account financial class so please don’t even start). To be clear I’m not saying you are racist- but you’re clearly not using your head if you don’t realize that there are lots of people out there who are racist (the KKK still exists for just one example) and plenty more who are at least prejudiced against blacks. Every year you go back in American history that number of people who discriminate gets larger and larger. So in my view you can either acknowledge that it’s true that we aren’t really born on a level playing field and do something right about it or just do nothing that’s your right. But instead you are here calling it dangerous brainwashing to even consider these ideas as if it wasn’t an obvious fact of life. Seriously what is the worst possible outcome here? Accidentally helping someone who didn’t need it that badly? Is it really going to be worse than hundreds of years of slavery for example? Lynching? Redlining? Really curious as to what angle you are coming from here.

[@darlene19668]

My white grandma pick cotton not in slavery but we were poor also. I went to an all black school and was beat by the kids. I was poorer than all the families there....but I worked, prayed and cried....I rise not because of color but because of heart

[@zebulonreynaud919]

"cheap cotton" they said.... it's the most expansiv cotton who ever exited trust me.

[@SonOfFerus]

I feel this. Did a little time at an all black school as a kid and they went out of their way to keep me in check. I grew up being silenced and abused by black people.

[@jool754]

I’m a white person from Georgia. The fact that I need to say that for the next sentence to hit is a seperate issue. But you being poor, bullied, and a minority when it comes to wealth is not even close to being actually enslaved. Your life had challenges, most people’s do too. Your challenges have not been because someone bought your grandmother and made her work on their property. Regardless of your view on white privilege, I really think your view or the way this comment was worded missed the point. Plenty of black people rise “not because of color”. Plenty of white people rise even tho they are poor

[@bryand6051]

@@jool754 It's not even about being decendants of slaves. If it was more people would agree with affirmative action as it is today. Black immigrants benefit from it over white immigrants. Lol. It's ridiculous.

[@taramckinley7585]

​@Joseph Gogol I think this lady was saying that being "white" does NOT automatically imbue some nebulous"privilege" on a person simply by virtue of their immutable characteristics, nor does being a black or other ethnic minority American automatically make you a victim of a history that youve never experienced yourself. We all choose how we live and move in this world and how we think about ourselves and how we relate to the past. "White privilege" is a Marxist concept, a VERY recent one- only more widely known in the last 5 -10 years, born in the Universities. Instead of the original "class" issue, they've made it a racial issue- it's ALL political, and we've fallen for it, hook line and sinker. This concept didn't exist when you or I were younger, the race issue in America was largely solved, so the fact that these kids have been taught to believe they are worth less because of their skin color- ALL of them-white and black, is absolutely reprehensible, and it needs to stop. America has been a meritocracy from the beginning, we just need to make sure our kids know that- skin color doesn't matter unless you MAKE it matter. What's the terminology? A social construct? THAT is our problem in America, we're such a wealthy prosperous Nation, it benefits our enemies and those ideologically possessed to destroy it from within with these pathological ideas. We've ALL had our troubles and even tragedy, but life is what we choose to make of it now-we can't use our Ancestor's long-dead past to fully color our futures- they wouldn't want the progress they made to be in vain, it's insulting to them.

[@coko3124]

I really appreciated the gentle and kind approach of the professor. He really asked good questions and encouraged thoughtful debate without dominating the discussion. Hard to do when so few people were engaging, relatively.

[@redundantlyuseful3366]

One way of training animals is through shame and reward. So when you shame someone… like let’s say ‘oh you have white privilege that’s why … ‘ and then when they are ashamed of themself and they bend to agree with that assessment you can then reward them by saying ‘wow you’ve come a long way’. I guess white privilege is a means of control as with all shame training methods. The fact that this topic has so much stigma means that it’s a tool to shame and not a real thing.

[@Platinum1812]

White privilege is something you didn't do or chose, can't make go away, and can be seen just by looking at you, and affects the majority of the population.

[@An_Actual_Woman]

Absolutely 🙌

[@ElizaDolittle]

and control is a marxist tactic...

[@kou2zis]

Wow... KZbin won't let me click like on this comment. Only dislike or report.

[@thescatterpiratesquarepant7935]

I think it's mainly, the grass looks greener on the other side.

[@blahblahblah7407]

About 3-4 decades ago, my uncle was in a program where he could learn home repair & painting skills. He qualified for the free classes based on income. However, he later on found out that everyone in the class was receiving a stipend, except for him. The other guys told him to get his check & back pay. My uncle inquired about it, but was told he was not allowed to receive it, because he was white. He laughs about it today & most likely did back then because of the absolute absurdity of it all.

[@gardenersdelight7479]

This is a really good way of getting students to think critically. I’m hoping there are more of these as they are interesting.

[@livetotell100]

I went to Penn State. 1992-1996. I'm white. I had to take out 80,000 dollars in loans, got NO grants, just to go to college. My parents couldn't afford to help me. They were HARD working lower middle class people. I also had to get a job while in college. That's the "white privilege" I have experienced.

[@brucesmith5426]

Went to Penn State University Park in the mid 70's and my parents couldn't get even get some help. They said 55 grand was too much money to qualify . 2 of us boys were at Penn State with the 3rd in Veterinary School at University of Pennsylvania. Yes we worked in the Summer and had jobs when in school to help with what our parents gave us. Yes I had great parents that sacrificed for their children.

[@suzybearheart530]

I didn’t want to take out student loans but my parents couldn’t help me either. So I only took classes if I could pay cash from my full-time job. It took me forever to graduate because some semesters I only took one class. It sucked at the time but on graduation day my younger colleagues were lamenting their looming student debt and lack of job experience. I had almost no student debt and a pretty good job so while my education experience isn’t ideal, I realized it’s not the worst either.

[@OsefKincaid]

I can't say that I have watched the whole video unfortunately but since you guys think these comments are a good response to the concept of "white privilege" I can only conclude it wasn't explained very well in the video.

[@iMatti00]

@@OsefKincaid- Do you see my comment immediately before your comment that starts with the words “dear Lord“? I’m curious if it’s hidden because of certain keywords I used in my explanation, or if you can see it.

[@OsefKincaid]

@@iMatti00 can't see it

[@QuinnieMae]

I absolutely love this professor's playfulness and mischievousness around such a tricky and frustrating and anger inducing topic. He's _playing_ which makes it feel less spicy to talk about. I wasn't able to go to college for numerous reasons but if I did I would have absolutely loved to take this class. There's the perfect amount of trickster in this prof and it's perfect for these conversations. I'm so grateful this is available to us all.

[@Shoutinthewind]

Thank you Professor I’m sure you are aware of it already but what you are doing is absolutely crucial to the very survival of our civilization. 👏 bravo

[@godsrevolver9737]

It won't work. Civilization has already collapsed, we're just on a timer. Socially, economically and otherwise, we have fallen as a nation. That's just the truth.

[@jamieparker6465]

I appreciate the fact that this guy is approaching this discussion from a contrarian point of view. Because many people are lead down a rabbit hole of not knowing what they think individually.

[@reasonablyserious]

Actually, he's training them to express the views he clearly wants them to have while acting as if he was giving them the counterargument, making the students think they're informed.

[@jamieparker6465]

@@reasonablyserious no he’s challenging their ideals. Showing them what thinking critically looks like. Taking the contrarian point of view causes many generalized ideology to crumble.

[@jiminauburn5073]

Not sure he is approaching it from a contrarian point of view. I think he is approaching it from a sane point of view. A point of view that is real and not some woke delusion that a majority of the kids in his class probably believe. If he was just to say all that, he would probably be reported for being racist, and be fighting for his job. But if he says it like he is just being contrarian, then the people do not feel threatened by him, because they believe that he thinks like them.

[@jiminauburn5073]

@@jamieparker6465 And by saying that he was taking the contrarian view it gives him cover when he disagrees with their beliefs. If he just disagreed with them, he would get in trouble.

[@jamieparker6465]

@@jiminauburn5073 yea in the socio political climate its justified because woke politics create weak minded people that are easily triggered. I can appreciate the points he is making whether personal or for the sake of argument. People do not think for themselves these days and when woke people here something they do not like it turns into defamation of someones character vice critically analyzing concept and nuance of individual free thinking and experience.

[@HaloSmyth]

When I had a crappy car I got pulled over a lot. When I got a nicer car I got pulled over less. I was the same color

[@melechdomeyhwh]

😂whatttt

[@WanderingExistence]

Have you ever made the connection that racism has been heavily connected to socioeconomic status.... You realize that racism was created as a way to justify dehumanizing others for socioeconomic benefits. Socioeconomics is heavily linked to racial bias.

[@hannahcampbell8196]

"I was the same color" 😂

[@renegonzalez6755]

I was suggested this video by KZbin. I live in California and I am 41 years old hispanic. I have never attended a university and I think it is wonderful that this video is available for anyone to watch. Our family is the best source of education. I can't deny that. I feel that there are in fact things that are not tought to us by our parents. The school system is absolutely essential.

[@maryglo1]

Mom always said, "Life is a big education!"

[@janinevanreenen9470]

This is what a class lecture should be like on a good college campus. Ask. Respond. Ask. Respond. Think! Why are you thinking this way…what is shaping your worldview?! Thank you! Wish all campuses were safe for all youth!

[@donnaknudson7296]

My mom's white and she grew up picking cotton too, as a child and teenager, while trying to keep up with her grades in school. They also had no plumbing or electricity or phone. That means going on the outhouse no matter how cold it is (in the winter even Alabama can get real cold at night). That also means no showers or bathtubs. No heating. Just the fireplace. They made all their own clothes, and ate mostly off the land. Getting other supplies was a day long trip out and back. My dad grew up very poor. They sold eggs, chickens and turkeys. Luckily it was the 1950s when they started their own adult lives, when the economy was good, and my dad was eventually able to get a doctorate and my mom a master's degree. Neither of them got scholarships, but back then it was a lot easier to work your way through school.

[@ginabean9434]

It's a regional issue, imo: USA is still persuaded that those issues are racial because, hey, this country have been built on slavery of black people. But discriminations and privileges exist exactly the same in countries with no racial diversity at all. Behind the racial issue is a social issue and this one is universal. So it's going to take more time to realize that the race issue in USAs is actually a CLASS issue. But in the meantime, since USAs believe they ARE the world and rule it as an empire, the whole world seems to think that white privileges are a universal thing.

[@donnaknudson7296]

@@ginabean9434 Yes, is an uneasy feeling knowing how much the rest of the world seems to take so many cues from the US. It's was set up that way on purpose I think. The US is to be the leader/the power country and the military might. It's been set up this way by the global power elite who are manipulating the US just as much as people think the US is manipulating other countries. People don't realize that I think. We (the US) are being led too. And yes, race is being used heavily to manipulate us, and others follow.

[@lilshawano1014]

My dad grew up in a house without water as well. My grandma had 9 kids. My dad talks about how he had hand-me downs and got 1 pair of shoes a year. He wore those shoes until the next year, holes and all. They lived outside of Chicago and not having an indoor bathroom was awfully cold in the winter. He remembers the warmest part of the house was in the kitchen. He had to share a bed with his younger brother but in the winter it kept him warm. He didn't have running water until they moved to a new house. By that time a lot of his brothers and one of his sisters were moved out. It was the greatest thing ever to him.

[@melechdomeyhwh]

Tell them to pick me some

[@3namechangezalowdevry90day7]

Privilege used to mean special, but the definition has been changed to mean "slightly better than someone who doesn't also face racial discrimination".A white, middle class male is not privileged. He's a normal, average default setting. Someone who faces more discrimination than average is disadvantaged. The debate needs to go back to ending discrimination and how to best help the disadvantaged.

[@NikolajHoelgaard]

We need to stop teaching a narrative and start teaching young people how to make up their own conclusions and critical thinking.

[@jamesalexander949]

These kids have no critical thinking skills.

[@darklordsauron3415]

@@jamesalexander949 This is the age of npcs. It existed before, but access to the media and the internet, on top of the mind numbing effects of it(tiktok brain?), has made it especially pronounced.

[@WanderingExistence]

People who say that there's no white privilege are ignorant, and people that say that it's all white privilege is also ignorant.

[@jamesalexander949]

@@darklordsauron3415 what's npcs

[@darklordsauron3415]

@@jamesalexander949 video game term for non playable character

[@latimer442]

"Fumbled their privilege" "Fumbled the bag". A white person's family and a non-white person's family had the same time frame to improve their family. Hindsight is 20/20, and not all the decisions either side made will be perfect. I could be living in a mansion right now if my maternal grandmother had chosen wealth over love. My parents weren't wealthy. Neither am I. But I've worked for what I have and I'm happy with that.

[@victorhopper6774]

many factors affect wealth

[@Guts-DemonSlayer]

I might as well dig my great grandmother up and take her old ass to court 😂😂 (I love how people born today blame the people born today about historical differences we weren't there to do anything about)

[@geoffmcdaniel1264]

It always surprises me that we recognize it only takes one generation to destroy or gain wealth, but somehow oppression from a very small few, many generations ago, is justification for oppression of a very large population.

[@bernardvc5820]

you wouldn't exist ;)

[@gal2659]

I love the fact they think all white people in last 400 years in america were rich lol

[@megzzzz1077]

He’s undoing what most other professors have been doing the last few years 🙏🏼

[@erikabrennan7460]

What an amazing professor and communicator. That god for teachers like this 🙏🏼

[@cycle4lifeac]

It's amazing how the word "like" has made it so predominantly into this generations lexicon.

[@chasesmith585]

It’s easily my biggest pet peeve, can’t stand it whatsoever.

[@monkeymox2544]

Well first, it's hardly unique to 'this' generation (assuming you mean zoomers and millennials). Second, it's just a discourse marker - these are entirely natural parts of speech, used in this case to indicate a process of thought that can't yet be articulated. It means 'I have something to say, I'm formulating it, bear with me." It isn't a sign of low intelligence or inarticulateness. It's no different from saying "you know" or "right" in the middle of a sentence.

[@persephonel2117]

@@monkeymox2544 No, it’s way different and it’s absolutely insane how many times they can squeeze it into a sentence.

[@monkeymox2544]

@@persephonel2117 it objectively isn't different. I used to have a lecturer, proper distinguished looking guy who went to Oxford and had a posh accent. He used to make these bizarre noises halfway through sentences whilst he was thinking, this sort of croaky keening noise that would last for about five seconds a time. If he'd said "like" instead of making that noise, it wouldn't have changed the actual content of what he was saying. It wouldn't be any more or less correct. Again, it's just a discourse marker. It is normal.

[@reasonablyserious]

It's a filler word. It's amazing how people still don't feel this has been pointed out clearly enough.

[@Rummelta]

I feel too many ppl are afraid to say what they really think due to the backlash. I wish we could just have an honest conversation about how we all actually feel. This professor does a great job at saying the uncomfortable things ppl are really thinking but puts it in a way that isn’t a slap in the face.

[@neowolf09]

He tries at the very least but I think is coming in too soft for some of his points to honestly take hold, sometimes shock is a very good teacher. But I'm glad discussion is finally being allowed. Though I think it's a ridiculous notion being the country we are, you know, with freedom of speech, supposedly.

[@guyledouche357]

The state of black America is their fault. 100% of it.

[@YungM.D.]

@@neowolf09 he also has to keep his job, so shock might not be the best teacher here. Also: people in general are more receptive to compassion and a soft approach versus the hard line “wake up!” approach

[@neowolf09]

@@YungM.D. you make good point. Suppose it depends on the person and the way they learn best, which is why classes full of 10+ people are already highly ineffective.

[@sirmelancholia]

It’s difficult to destabilize the west by having honest conversations.

[@liliesofthefield5310]

His parent's are both doctors and they worked hard, THERE YOU GO, he just disproved his whole argument

[@zachariahdavis8671]

100% he sees himself as a victim though. Victimhood is the most toxic and corrosive ideology today

[@xaviermagnus8310]

Worked hard is comparative though in the end.

[@Mrbobster87]

Please for God's sake, let's have more of this, all over the states, let's save America, and it starts with the youth. Luv this professor, woke culture or whatever the movement is they messed up because they have woken up God's people.

[@anon100x]

This is like the all time best class. I wish I could take a class like this. The instructor is awsome.

[@nadiacoffey2609]

I’ve had two rounds of college during my life, so 8 years total. Never once during those times did I have the opportunity to have a conversation like this. I was taught about systemic racism and I was told to come to terms with my privilege so I can do less harm. I was never asked questions about it.

[@ginabean9434]

_"I was taught about systemic racism"_ In US history class? Because although oppression is everywhere in every country, it's not universally due to racism: some country don't have any kind of racial diversity and people living there still experiment discrimination. _"come to terms with my privilege"_ Do you own slaves? I mean what is it going to change, except that you will have less? Fight so more people can have the same privileges, not to loose privileges. Less is not more.

[@nadiacoffey2609]

@@ginabean9434 I literally had entire classes that were based on critical theories. The classes focused on “social determinants” of health, class, wealth, etc. The classes analyzed the ways in which systems of oppression exist and are maintained. They were taught as fact, not a matter of history. I never questioned anything because I never had the opportunity to until I became an adult living in the real world. Even then it took years for me to understand how I was indoctrinated. As far as the coming to terms with my privilege thing, it’s was taught as you were born with it, you need to accept it, and basically spend your life atoning for it by using it to lift up black and brown people. You have to “use your white voice” and use your “white vote.” I believed it too, for years.

[@ginabean9434]

@@nadiacoffey2609 Thanks for the reply and the info.

[@thereallantesh]

It's so sad seeing how brainwashed the younger generation has become. This poor professor is is trying to help them think their way out of it, and some of them just have that blank deer in the headlights look.

[@deborahjoyvalentine6180]

What Doctors are white? Where? I'm moving there. Majority Dr.s in AZ I've gone to are brown, yellow and red; often so ethnic, I have difficulty understanding accents.

[@JustMe00257]

Love how these wealthy students talk for Caleb...

[@GodsNumberOneSon]

This guy is AWESOME! Love his attitude and demeanor towards the students. Clearly they have a lot of respect for him.

[@thewaltons5094]

Currently in the United States we are all privileged! Visit another country. The freedom to have this discussion is a privilege.

[@chrystallee1563]

Couldn’t say it better!!!

[@melechdomeyhwh]

No we aren't 😂

[@lisag-mh5rc]

Critical thinking is on the verge of extinction.

[@skyscrapersheaf5300]

Have you visited another country? Because it really doesn't seem like you did.

[@briannellewellyn6844]

​@melechdomeyhwh we have power, access to internet, indoor plumbing and hot water as housing requirements, and free access to education through libraries when you can't afford college. What do you mean no we aren't? People in Nigeria rn can't even pull out more than 40 dollars A WEEK. It costs on average 42 a day to live there for the poorest communities. Think about that. As a woman you don't murdered in this country as a societal rule for being sexually liberal. The only reason economically things look the way they do is because of voters and bad decisions over a period of decades. None of which is irreversible, just difficult af to fix. Power is given not taken here. So what do you mean no we don't? Comparitively this is still the most free country in the world. We are the most priveliged society on the globe because of the bill of rights and constitution.

[@herbbadgeley2200]

So determined to maintain the privilege paradigm. Some of these students refuse to accept any notion of equal footing even when they have the ultimate privilege of wealth over a poor white kid.

[@danmorgan3685]

Or they are smart enough to know that wealth privilege and white privilege aren't the exact same thing. Edge cases exist under virtually any system. I'm seen as white but I'm not a billionaire while Oprah Winfrey is. That doesn't mean anything at the population level. For Christ sake I saw a book about an Austrian Jewish Man who was drafted into the German Army in World War II. Does that make the fascists any less antisemitic? Of course not.

[@3namechangezalowdevry90day7]

These kids have the brains to not say anything that could be seen as discriminatory because they're being RECORDED for a broadcast that might just be seen by their future employers! The whole point of sitting through these lectures is to get a piece of paper that gives you a chance to earn better money! ( If you only wanted to expand your knowledge, you'd watch online classes for free, like we are.) They're well aware of cancel culture and that things last forever online.

[@samanthamariah7625]

This is what we need to begin doing. Realize that we know nothing and start from there and begin asking questions with scrutiny. Much respect for everyone willing to listen, talk and question.

[@GratefulTracy]

I appreciate you greatly, Sam. In my opinion, you are a Godsend. This communication is desperately needed.🙏❤️ Deep gratitude, love and respect Sir.

[@chrisbutler6597]

I'm amazed discussions like this are allowed to happen on college campuses

[@calvinbutler1919]

I'm amazed that any discussion has to be "allowed" (within reason) at all.

[@chrisbutler6597]

@Calvin Butler I actually felt myself having huge respect for these students for not starting a riot and shutting the event down.

[@RJL612]

It's amazing that society has been dumbed down so much that these discussions are even a thing.

[@mishagomez2065]

It’s a sociology class this is 100% a needed conversation in a class like this.

[@rebeccawoosley8241]

Why. Colleges are supposed to be open to discussions on all sides of an issue.

[@chocolate9747]

My sociology intro class was so incredibly boring compared to this. We just discussed things like privilege as fact and never really had a discussion like this. Im not agreeing or disagreeing with the topic, but this class would be so interesting to take.

[@OsefKincaid]

That's cause it is fact

[@christopherbrooksoregonboy]

@@OsefKincaid Yes, privilege is a *fact* but how many *types* of privilege can an individual possibly have? There's pretty privilege; height privilege, class privilege, wealth privilege, so on and so forth. Here's something to think about. What purpose is derived from discussing these "privileges" beyond feelings of envy that's produced? Personally, I feel nothing is gained from pointing out the *fact* that life is not fair

[@OsefKincaid]

@@christopherbrooksoregonboy That's okay you don't have to discuss it if you don't want to, not everyone has to do sociology. In a sociology class? Seems more important to do it.

[@BeWise4Life]

I would have blown this seminar up......we'd have gotten to the real meat of this discussion......My progressive professors loved me. 😅 For exmaple, dude in the 2nd row low key gave himself away with his point. If you were a slave it's because your people were conquered by other Africans who sold your ancestors as slaves. Your ancestors fumbled their freedom.....

[@BeWise4Life]

@@jeevandhillon00 He said the camera man's ancestors fumbled away his white privilege and that's on them.....should he get his ancestors white privilege back? Someone's skin color, whatever it may be, does have an impact on their life. However, as far as the metrics go, it is very small.

[@jeevandhillon00]

@@BeWise4Life Shit, I misinterpreted. My bad

[@benjamin5726]

Preach! All of human history is about conquering people but this is the only time in history where the winners have to sit and listen to people complain about it.

[@benjamin5726]

@@MarkStoddard facts i would have liked to hear what he thought

[@HollyClementine]

This professor gives me a small bit of hope for humanity.

[@dfsilversurfer]

How well behaved are these young people. These are challenging topics well done!

[@gamergirlmars]

I have Type 2 Albinism, in my completely natural state, no hair dye, tanner, eyebrow dye etc I lose farrrr more opportunity because of it. Wish people could walk in my shoes for a day. It’s insane, I’m looking at people here in Starbucks of all ethnicities with MacBook Pro’s, air pods, Nikes, Birkenstocks, etc. If you are in America I think you automatically have privileges others couldn’t begin to understand or dream of. My family immigrated to America in recent years too and I can just say, if you think you can’t struggle bc your white that is wrong and debunks systemic privilege right there. My family but me and my brother has black hair, olive tanned skin, when I say I have Albinism people respond the same way “then it applies to them and not you” I hate crayola crayon theory and boiling everyone down to a color. Everyone has struggles you’ll never know or understand, regardless of what your skin colors are.

[@Sentinel82]

The poor in this country (U.S.) live better than kings did hundreds of years ago and are the top 1% wealthiest in the world (you only have to make $34,000 per year to be in this bracket). Really says a lot with how great this country is.

[@MrKaelis]

@@Sentinel82 And yet, cost of living is a thing. It's a very thin line from having a roof over your head and total ruin in this country. That says nothing of being able to have a decent meal once a day - and I mean an actually nutritious meal which isn't slowly poisoning you to death because that's all you can afford, like around half the country right now.

[@Sentinel82]

@@MrKaelis Cost of living varies per state. In other words, get the hell out of California and New York. Yes...our meals poisoning you to death into your 70's and 80's is an issue...Our ancestors would be horrified. 🤣 You can make a healthy meat and vegetable soup large enough to feed a family of 5 for a day for less than $15.00

[@lisatoomey3868]

You win the comment section 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼

[@neowolf09]

You go girl! 🙏👍👍

[@forthelulz8085]

The best analogy I've heard to explain who has privilege is to ask yourself, "who am I not allowed to criticize?" If you can easily identify that, there is your answer. Honestly, I am grateful that PSU is having these conversations, and they are putting them online. I would love, to see you get someone like Jordan Peterson to join the conversation. Brining his audience into the fold would broaden your outreach.

[@wasserperson]

The "who are you not allowed to criticize" analysis comes from Kevin Alfred Strom, a white nationalist and Holocaust denier. It's a repackaging of Nazi conspiracy theories. He's very open about being the source, google him & you'll find it. You might then ask yourself why that "analysis" is so popular with Jordan Peterson fans, & why it gets so many fake attributions to Voltaire, Feynman, etc

[@XDWX]

I know of some very special groups we arent allowed to criticize. If I named them YT would delete my comment.

[@cloudhobbyist]

Ask Kanye and Kyrie who you can’t talk about…

[@wasserperson]

@@cloudhobbyist Thank you for illustrating my point. Kanye praised Hitler, Kyrie plugged a movie with antisemitic conspiracy theories, & they got social blow back & some professional consequences. Jon Stewart, one of the most prominent Jews in media right now, came out defending Kyrie as a good person. But you invoked these incidents in an ominous way, completely separate from actual facts, because "who you aren't allowed to criticize" isn't any valid historical or systemic analysis. It's just "Jews are secretly in charge" hate speech.

[@wasserperson]

@@XDWX Liar.

[@Xestra37490]

I didn’t understand in the beginning I think I see what he’s trying to do. It’s wonderful to start conversation even though it might feel awkward. This will brings society closer rather than blaming each other.

[@heatherbretsch8438]

I appreciate this professor and this discussion he lead. I love that he is trying to get these kids to rationalize their opinions and question what they believe is the correct narrative.

[@deeh5126]

What do you "give up"- time- give your time to helping the the underprivileged. Lift where we stand. This dude gave me a whole new respect for sociology- a field which has always made me uncomfortable because it seemed steeped in ideology.

[@markjones8817]

I was so privileged to grow up on a pig farm, and my only hope of going to college was to join the navy during the Vietnam Era. Please give me a break. I had to work full-time and go to college. Also, I grew up in Alabama, and desegregation happened in 1965. That kid who said his parents went to segregation school was wrong.

[@turtle19dad]

Thank you. I had to join the military to even be able to afford to go to college. I had to work everyday to survive.

[@ryanjensen5897]

Thanks for your service. I feel for you for serving your country only to have Rich elites throw their money in your face and tell you, you have privilege.

[@spiritualexercise265]

I worked full-time and went to college full-time. Many of my peers did also...

[@claycountykillers]

Ha. Same here. Grew up on a farm and joined the Marines. Ended up with a handful of farm related injuries that will be with me for life.

[@rebeccawoosley8241]

Depended on where you went to school.

[@TinyTom1995]

What was missing from the responses in these college students is the degree to which different individual traits affect one's privileges in life. The class in which a person grew up is a much more significant predictor of success than any other factor, including race. Almost everything brought up as examples of white privilege can be better explained by class prejudice than racism. I wish they'd have explored the medical piece a lot more, because there's some genuine concerns there with disregarding race, sex, etc. in practice. Also, it's so easy to say "support less privileged individuals", when the actual actions taken legislatively are actively advantaging people of color to offset historical disadvantages. I wish the lecturer would ask "when does it end, when is it fair?" because that would illicit some real conversations surrounding the level to which these advantages have been successful

[@joshuareynolds23]

Actually the biggest indicator of future success is a two parent household class has very little to do with it just as many rich people stop being rich within two generations of someone building wealth

[@lordblazer]

actually race still plays a role. I'm tired of people pretending like there isn't a racial wealth gap.. a black middle class kid from a two parent household has a higher chance of ending up in poverty as an adult than a white kid from the same economic background.

[@Bob_in_Vista]

​@@lordblazer Many immigrant minority groups do better than whites including African and Caribbean immigrant groups. How do you explain that?

[@christopherstephenson7199]

@@lordblazer and what is the chance of either ending up in poverty and what would be the reasons?

[@persephonel2117]

@@lordblazer Sure but what are the drop out rates? What are the teen pregnancy rates, the addiction rates? The engagement in crime? A two parent home is better than one parent but it doesn’t immunize you from cultural influences that glorify violence and devalue education.

[@heavyiron3572]

People don’t understand, everybody has privilege and different levels of privilege based off where you are and who you surround your self with. If a white person goes to a place that is primarily black and brown people, their privilege would not be the same and vise versa. Everybody in America are privileged. People act like they are in Afghanistan or Ukraine.

[@jsbestfriend3201]

My mom always said..."It's NOT what you know, it's WHO you know" that gets you the job or the promotion or the stepping stone you need to advance in life.

[@heavyiron3572]

@@jsbestfriend3201 She sounds like a person with great wisdom.

[@rickr530]

One place where you won't find much white privilege is prison :)

[@Jzns82]

Thank god for this prof

[@tula1433]

My Irish mother grew up in a small town in north jersey in public housing! She walked across the bridge to Newark to WORK during the riots. She could of STAYED in the projects but she wanted more! Some people she grew up with are STILL THERE in that victimhood mindset! She isn’t privileged, she worked her ass of and got out ! Just as ANY American of any color can! Education and work or even the military are ways out of a bad situation! Not victimhood! 🇺🇸

[@JASHALL10]

If this class represents their generation, we’re all in big trouble.

[@reasonablyserious]

If that dude represents teaching, we know the cause

[@harveytherobot]

They’re all 18 or 19. Their brains are still developing. I’ll bet you’d be surprised at the things you said at that age.

[@yasuynnuf1947]

Come on dude. They are kids who just barely turned into adults.

[@typocoproject]

It is our job as adults to guide young people. Life isn’t a spectator sport.

[@PawsitivelyQuestionable]

it's 3 people who are barely adults. Can't possibly represent an entire global generation.

[@ryanmarsh7552]

Love conversations like this and using a defibrillator on conversations that should have been going on all along.

[@nf6386]

There was a study of blind hiring done in the Australian public service which showed that when race and gender identifying features were hidden on job applications, it resulted in MORE Anglo Saxon candidates being shortlisted, and also more men. So under normal circumstances, Menali would have received more favourable treatment than “Melanie” or “Michael”, probably because recruiters were straining to meet diversity quotas.

[@mystosplosion]

Good info. When was the study done?

[@krullben]

@@mystosplosion It may have been this one. Careful to compare AU and US. Different countries. behaviouraleconomics.pmc.gov.au/projects/going-blind-see-more-clearly-unconscious-bias-australian-public-service-aps-shortlisting

[@mrgmsrd]

I'm really impressed that all the students on this panel spoke openly and presented their opinions calmly. This professor appears to be doing a fantastic job at promoting critical thinking in a way that is no longer common. Way to go!

[@JackoTJK]

This is a based professor and kudos to his class. There are no "Hot-Takes" in this at all. It's all common sense that has become increasingly less common. It is meant to be thought provoking and shed the "Assumptions". "Why is it Calebs fault" should be asked more tbh

[@kerryshambach2220]

I think college students should be able to articulate a sentence by this point without using the word "like" more than once in a sentence or even the entire conversation.

[@zachariahdavis8671]

“…whatever” 😂

[@BlakeAustin2011]

You have a lot of faith in Common Core public education…or even private education.

[@mattberg6816]

I think a professor should probably be able to hold a conversation without using bro and yo constantly. However language is a constantly evolving thing. There’s new words in the dictionary every year. Get over yourself

[@kerryshambach2220]

@@mattberg6816 Yo, no one said they weren’t words Bro! I just think that people should , like shouldn’t use it all the time. It’s like, articulate a real sentence Bro!

[@orenavinoam11]

@@kerryshambach2220 I absolutely read this in a jordan peterson voice in my head

[@TheKingdom2570]

Great class it give me hope for some schools this topic needs more critiquing.

[@joshuamctaggart6732]

What’s sad is when it cuts to the students in the audience - so many are not paying attention - many are even sleeping…. That’s sad to me!

[@DDoS_Your_Pineapples]

I don't know if I could have payed attention to to this in class and I'm watching the video for entertainment

[@lewislee9201]

@DDos your pineapples I agree, the pace is glacial.

[@reasonablyserious]

There isn't anything to pay attention to. A man training students like puppies to react and listen in a certain way so they don't become heretics somewhere down the line

[@annabelle3510]

When I attend various lectures and seminars I often make either notes of what the speaker is saying, or just mere scribbles. This is because when my hands are employed my attention span is better. If I'm looking at the speaker and not doing anything else, as an introvert I find it more difficult to concentrate to their words. So I don't know, maybe it's the same issue with some of the kids in the audience. I have teenage nieces who are glued to their phones when they come for a visit, and appear as if they have no idea what us adults are talking about, then suddenly one of them will lift their head and make a comment, revealing that they were efficiently staring at their phones and closely listening to us the entire time lol. I think with the advent of technology kids have developed this "mental multitasking" skills where their brains are focused on two different things at the same time.

[@shellbell2167]

I grew up very poor in the south in a suburb outside of a major metropolitan area. After my parent’s divorce my siblings and I were raised in abject poverty and squalor. My mom struggled financially without a full education to get a high enough paying job to provide for us. She also struggled with mental health due to the stresses she was under. There were times we qualified for food stamps and times we didn’t. Times my mom begged for help from churches and times she could provide. We had food from food banks and many times we were without electricity or water. We could see the ground through our floor and had holes in the ceiling. She always told us, get your education and get out of this. We had to do well enough so we could get scholarships to go to college and get a career. We were not allowed to bring home Cs, we’re expected to participate in school activities, and were prevented from hanging around with friends she deemed to have low moral character. My siblings and I were made fun of relentlessly for how we lived, having to bum money for lunch, and for clothing that smelled less than ideal due to cats and broken washing machines. We were called “poor white trash” by White, Black, and similar by Hispanics. If you told me growing up I had white privileged, I would have laughed in your face. Every friend I had who was a minority lived exponentially better than myself. I even volunteered to help with inner city VBSs in high school and college. Some of those homes in the “projects” were more extravagant inside than I could have ever wished for in my home. I would not consider them more privileged than myself however, b/c where they lived was terrifying. I had no privilege over them and they had none over me. What I have noticed is that privilege comes from lots of money. The only thing that can give you a leg up is education, determination, quality character, and reliance on the One who gives all. My siblings and myself all busted our butts and went to college. We are all now married with families of our own living what many would call “privileged.” Others have no idea where we came from. It wasn’t b/c of our skin color that we got here. It is because we heeded the advice of our mother and did everything within our “power” to get OUT!

[@JayceHill08]

You know my first reaction is to thibj this professor is corny... But being older what he is doing is incredible. He speaks their lingo to connect ans make these kids feel comfortable. And wow, hes great. Much respect to this man.

[@deborahjoyvalentine6180]

Thank you for young man's honesty that college and jobs OFTEN go to minorities.

[@reasonablyserious]

How often it happens isn't even relevant. People getting (or not getting) a job because of the colour of their skin is racist.

[@jiminauburn5073]

In my profession, IT, if you are a black person with any skills, companies would compete to be able to hire you. In this field it is not that black people are not being hired, it is that they are not going into the field in college, so there are fewer in the field. So if only 3% of IT people out of college are black, you are only going to see 3% in the field in companies. If you try to boost that to 13%, you will run out of black people to hire. So it creates competition to hire the black candidates. But white privilege, yeah.

[@sagargiri3145]

Cope. You are living life on easy mode.

[@shannoncoley7123]

@@sagargiri3145 Yeah. Why can’t people just cope with racism?

[@JDB3000]

@@jiminauburn5073 why aren’t there as many black students graduating college with an IT focus?

[@tweed953]

I used to get speeding tickets CONSTANTLY when I had a sports car. Not anymore. My skin color hasn't changed.

[@1008chaz]

I think the white privilege argument is just a sad way for upperclass people to distract from the real problem of wealth disparity. By making the argument racial it makes it harder for all the poor people to come together and demand proper pay for the hard work most poor people need to do just to get by. Making the argument racial also makes it easy to sweep the largest population of poor people under the rug like they don't matter. I think a lot of the presumptions these privileged students in penn state have are kind of disparaging to a lot of people

[@getinthespace7715]

Democrats won't admit that programs like social security are stealing generational wealth from the low income working class. We work our entire lives with 12.5% of our paychecks taken for social security. For low income workers this is all the money they have that would otherwise be available for retirement savings. Let's say a kid starts working at 15 years old making $15/hr. And works 50 years, raises only offset inflation so they maintain the same basis for money. 12.5% of their income or $325/month will be paid into social security. If you assume they put this in a retirement account with 7% returns instead. That is $1.77 million of today's dollars in retirement. If you use s&p500 historical return of 10% its $5.63 million. Today when those low income workers die the government absorbs that wealth in Social Security that could otherwise be passed on to children and grand children if people had more control over it. I whole heartedly believe this is a major factor driving that wealth disparity in this country.

[@oremfrien]

@1000chaz -- The entire reason that the argument is made racial is because a number of socialists in Europe, the "Frankfurt School" were dismayed that, for the most part, the workers of the world were not uniting. The poor were not recognizing commonality because of distinctions like race, ethnicity, religion, gender, etc., so the Frankfurt School re-cast the socialist class warfare as a racial/ethnic class war in the hope that this would allow the argument for socialist policy to proliferate despite the poor not reacting as desired.

[@eatonkuntz]

That's a good teaching style. Feels more classical like a forum for exploring and learning. Definitely more open and fair

[@mcsmith7692]

I am truly privileged. I was baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

[@mathman43]

College kids are so obtuse. You can have liberty or you can have equality, but you can't have both. Any one has played youth sports knows there is no equality. People have different skill sets. Among the ways that human beings differ include appearance, wealth, intelligence, education, athleticism, family structure, geography, era you live in, work etchic,etc. Those are just off the top of my head. This is not a normal distribution, it's a Pareto distribution.

[@D8D8drums]

You’re thinking of equity. The idea of equality and equity are not mutually exclusive and contradict each other. We all have equality, equal opportunity. But we don’t have equity, equal outcome. If one exists then the other can not.

[@FYahooo]

Math in short some people are Bum/ and some people work 16 plus hours a day. Both these people should get a $100,000 a year salary?? An ancient book says “ they are too lazy to lift the food to their mouths” and some people will loose sleep studying or working 2nd or 3rd jobs to better themselves. One guy said we should give the homeless houses????? Who pays for it?? You would have to steal the money of the guy working 16 hours plus to pay for the Bums house/salary.

[@marywalker5348]

Actually wealth, education, family structure, and geography, and even appearance (because of the medical field) can, are, and have been controlled by oppressors. Ex: * black wall streets in America and the destruction of black towns in America because of lies, envy, and jealousy. *America's slavery and the contract with the freed slaves that Lincoln gave of 40 acres and mule as reparations for slavery only for him to be assassinated and the promise taken back, yet the peasants of Europe coming to America and given the land that was promised to the freed slaves. Which hindered generational wealth only allowing it to be oassec on to white Americans *During desegregation white teachers being told not to teach the incoming black students. And this still existed in the 90s with a teacher actually saying this to a parent openly that they're told not to worry about teaching the black students *There are deeds on homes and land to this day that still have the wordage that literally says, "never to be sold to a negro" which hinders generational wealth *Black American soldiers returning from war not being given to the access to the military housing initiatives like the white soldiers. *Industrial prison complex I can go on and on....

[@D8D8drums]

@@marywalker5348 sounds like a good reason to vote republican since all of those things mentioned were sanctioned by the Democratic Party haha. But I do take issue with your correlation from previous instances of oppression and their opportunities today which was the basis of the original comment. I’d recommend Thomas Sowell for a good source at why your thesis isn’t true and any example you given or could give is no long happening today and hasn’t for decades. And if your next response is the passing of generational trauma is still in effect. There’s many groups of minorities that have come over during the same time, faced the same kind of oppression, yet succeed and thrive in America today.

[@abettermind]

Mary, you can go on and on about past injustice. What you don't like taking into account is the radical transformation that has taken place over the last few generations. I watch black people claw their way out of the hood every day, same with white people. I also watch poor decisions keep black and white people in the gutter every day. Your comment about deeds such as the ones you mentioned is laughable, as that is very illegal. Also, generational wealth lasts 3 generations on average. Failing to recognize the turnover of wealth is a popular failing, but that doesn't make it any less silly. What keeps people in bad areas is poor decisions and the corrosive culture that promotes those decisions. Sincerely, someone that grew up dirt poor and watched what you read about every day. You offer excuses for bad decisions. Doing so promotes them. Others offer motivation to break cycles. You're the problem.

[@TylerDurden-rh6hu]

I like how this teacher pushed back on everything, he didn't do it to be a dick he did it to prove it's all a lie.

[@trashcameraguy999]

Speaking of ASL and privilege, There was this Hillarious story of a black woman who had outstanding warrants for passing bad checks. When she went to the Sherrif's office to take care of the warrant, she discovered that they were hiring for a sign language interpreter. So, instead of taking care of her warrant, she said that she was there because she knew ASL, and got hired as the department interpreter for press conferences. She worked for them for almost 2 years, not knowing sign language AT ALL! Finally, someone watching a press conference on t.v. knew ASL, and informed the Sherrifs Dept that she was faking. She got charged with fraud, and had to go to court on the warrant she never took care of. She was found guilty, but the jury didn't punish her with jail time or fines on the grounds that her crime paid for itself in the entertainment value. I say, Kudos. If you see some of the press conferences she did, knowing that she is faking it, it is so, so funny. I always think it looks like the ASL interpreter is making fun of the speaker. In this case, it was true.

[@spiritmatter1553]

I’ve seen videos of this fraud at work and the giveaway was that her face was not animated. If she’d only made exaggerated faces, she would’ve “passed.” Absolutely brazen.

[@tula1433]

Criminal fraud. This lighthearted story is lighthearted because of the color of her skin. Perhaps she had BLACK privilege in this scenario or maybe female privilege. Bet a white straight man would of been dragged through the mud in the media had he done the same!

[@fredwilkinson]

I really enjoy following Dr. Richard’s classes, makes you think.

[@troycowan3535]

I love that this class is having a discussion on this. Just the communication is a positive

[@echobride4875]

I think it is more a majority privilege and not a skin privilege. Everyone is going to stick out like a sore thumb, if they go to a different country that is predominantly a different race.

[@pennylan6466]

I see what your saying, though my Italian grandfather immigrated to the US, and there were signs all over stating "No Irish or Italians Need Apply"

[@thomasreed4867]

​@Penny Lan not trying to attack but what year was this? Not in the last 30-40 years.

[@yolandaemba919]

In most African countries, a Caucasian man would be a minority but as a result of colonial history, he'll benefit from white privilege.

[@sjappiyah4071]

I would disagree with that, in SA whites had a privilege despite being the minority

[@tylerpurvis5658]

I’d say yes but I’ve always found privileges to be monetarily. Like I’m not saying it’s the only one. But I usually see economic privilege.

[@alittletooloose3087]

The only real completely unearned priviledge comes from the family and community you're born into but they don't want us having that conversation as it exposes a ruling class system of generational wealth

[@Brian_Friesen]

That’s not the only form of unearned privilege. While it is true that where you grow up does have an effect, there are plenty of examples of people who break out of that. Consider the story of Lakut Suwanprasop, creator of beloved Sriracha sauce. He came from poverty in Thailand to America with nothing but the shirt on his back and has built an empire of tasty productivity, and the world is better for it. He’s not the only one. There are many others that have come from poverty conditions and done well for themselves. The idea that it is impossible to rise out of poverty is just not true. I’m not arguing for the perpetuation of poverty, but we have to think carefully about how to help people. Just throwing money at poverty does not cure it. Other forms of unearned privilege comes from what most people mistake as racism, which is in-group bias. It is human nature to extend trust to people who are more like ourselves. It’s the reason why congressional districts who have high populations of darker skinned people are much more likely to send a person to congress who look like themselves, and vice versa. It’s the reason why if I were to apply for a job at Mid-K beauty supply (a local supplier catering to the local African American community nearby), my application would be round filed with deep belly laughs. People tend to extend grace to those that remind them of themselves, and it goes in all directions. You can call it racism, but it’s human nature and it doesn’t just happen in one direction.

[@benjamin5726]

How is it a privilege to sacrifice and make a good plan for your childs upbringing? Thats not privilege at all its hard work and smart work.

[@zyzzer]

​@@Brian_Friesenyou proved loose's point - the creater of brand name Sriracha sauce had no privileges when he came to America, worked hard, and made millions of dollars. He now has earned privileges but his children now have the same privileges that white people are claimed to have. It has nothing to do with skin color, there are THOUSANDS of white people living in his community who are extremely poor and millions around the nation who have zero privilege because they're poor, homeless, drug addicted, etc. If you are raised properly you gain unearned privileges simply from the smart decisions your parents or grand parents made.

[@jibantik00]

Unearned privilege? Generational wealth doesn't mean automatic privilege without work. Someone who inherits wealth is capable of squandering that wealth and ending up poor. Generational wealth takes work to maintain so it's not unearned. It's just earned on the backend.

[@Brian_Friesen]

@@jibantik00 Very true.

[@tonyfauci9963]

The fact that all of these young adults all regurgitate the exact same narrative, without really thinking about it, should tell you something about all the people that are hiring .. it is a huge advantage, when applying for jobs or scholarships to have a unique foreign sounding name , the students have adopted the dominant narratives in our country .

[@rootreinlavery2442]

Thank you for the privilege of working & paying my own way since I was 14.. am now 56 with no end in sight.

[@BonesTheCat]

Critical thought is top 3 of most important things you can be taught in school.

[@RenzoTravelsTheEarth]

Somebody give Caleb a scholarship

[@setwen2574]

I applied for a Tool and Die apprenticeship at a large automotive manufacturer once. I showed up the day of testing at the local college and it was packed! A few hundred people. The room was 90% black Americans. They made up 20% of the local demographics. Needless to say I didn’t get accepted, although I had already been in the trade, had my journeyman’s and an Associates in Mechanical Engineering. I later seen the black women at the college who did get the job. She had no experience and no educational in the trade. When a certain group of people are given a specific advantage, that gives another group a specific disadvantage. This is racism. I was surely not privileged that day. She had an advantage she was surely enjoying.

[@quincylockett7846]

Smh

[@3namechangezalowdevry90day7]

Yeah, sounds like you're totally above bitterness and really care about her safety.

[@setwen2574]

@@3namechangezalowdevry90day7 If I was you and knew as little about me and the situation as you do, there is a chance I would make false assumptions as well.

[@3namechangezalowdevry90day7]

@@setwen2574 I get that reverse discrimination is still discrimination, but you sound bitter as hell. Also, your writing skills are not that great, which may have cost you some points if there was a written portion of the application.

[@setwen2574]

@@3namechangezalowdevry90day7 That was 20yrs ago. I may have been a little salty at the time. As for the assessment of my writing skills. You are spot on.

[@Krolik314]

This is the first video of his that I've seen other than a few KZbin Short videos and I love it. I love that they are having honest conversation and sticking to one subject so that it can be hashed out more thoroughly and keep things calm. We have a tendency to change subject when we feel like the subject might not be going our way and he has beautifully prevented that without making anyone feel attacked. I also love that I still don't know what the teacher's views are on the matter; he is doing a great job encouraging dialog. Anytime someone says "this is how it is" he says "okay but what about this?" He is teaching these students HOW to think and not WHAT to think. We need more of this dialog; We need more teachers like him. I certainly will be watching more.

[@redalertsteve_]

Yeah I feel so privileged about going in the negative as soon as I get my surgery

[@jamescampbell-ws3dy]

God bless this professor man.

[@allyloolacy7021]

I thought it was pretty hypocritical when the black guy said Caleb’s family just fudged it up for him. Like if we used that same logic, the black guys family was able to rise above a lot especially to have two doctors. If we held that same logic everyone in every race should be able to rise above anything if they work hard enough. Which personally to some extent I agree with but I do understand that there’s some external circumstances that hold people back regardless of race.

[@MrK-js3it]

i think which means "family Culture" is more important...when that black student's parents is a Doctor, they will teach their son to get educated work hard for your grades..then now, he is in college...as a Chinese, my parents told me 27/4 that u need to get good grades to get a better life in your future

[@allyloolacy7021]

@@MrK-js3it I agree

[@jenx5870]

Exactly. How is it Caleb's fault that his family is poor, and yet he still has white privilege, but it's not the fault of African slave owners for giving them away in the first place, and they are victims? Same concept. Your ancestors screwed it up, and you had 200 plus years to get it right, Mr. Hypocritical. Besides, very few people owned slaves, and there were black slave owners. Therefore, the amount of people actually affected by slavery would have been small, anyway. Only a few can trace their ancestry back to actual slaves. I also call bs on his mother going to a segregated school, since that ended in 1965, and he is young. His parents are both doctors, and he grew up in more privilege than many white people. I guarantee he was never treated poorly. I live in the South, and black people interact normally with white people all the time. Many black people are bosses, and in a lot of workplaces, whites are the minority. We have no privilege when getting hired, and in that example, the girl likely would have been hired over Caleb, because she checked two of their minority boxes. That is the real privilege - being able to be hired, get into schools, and getting away with criminal behavior with impunity due to your race or sex. White privilege is a recently made up term by the Dems meant to shame and hold down white people in an attempt to control the masses. If they grow up in a culture that glorifies violence and places a low emphasis on education, then the outcome isn't positive. That is why they don't succeed. It doesn't matter what color their skin is, or what gender they are.

[@jimjones3370]

@@MrK-js3it They obviously didn't teach you math. Wtf is 27/4.

[@Guttlegob]

​@@MrK-js3it You'll find that family culture is infact the driving force behind any privilege.

[@gratefulpipeandcigar3239]

What was concerning to me is that these are young adults in college. They’ve already been through 12 years of school. And it seems like there are at least some of them that still need someone to hold their hand and explain something to them so specifically about getting into these dialogues. if these young adults can’t listen and figure out what to do by now, there’s no hope for them. This guy is so patient and kind.

[@edwardfala7723]

You got it mixed up. It is, because they have been schooled for 12 years. If they weren't indoctrinated, they wouldn't be in that crux.

[@bedroombully9614]

Explain what you mean?

[@Guillhez]

@@bedroombully9614 are you one of these kids?

[@duganite2983]

I mean that’s just how good discussions are guided, I feel like u prob don’t have a good understanding of how classes are meant to operate

[@stevedem76]

Alot of these kids are guarded with their responses, and giving answers that they don't necessarily believe. They're in an environment where they could be shamed or targeted for denying white privilege exists. They're paying big money to secure a better future, so they're not going to jeopardize that just to dismantle woke narratives.

[@RenzoTravelsTheEarth]

Far too many people spend far too long trying to calculate their level of privilege. Really the only things that matter are how much money your parents had and how hard you were willing to work to get what you want. Doesn’t matter what labels you put on yourself. If you’re already rich or willing to work hard enough you can do whatever you want in life.

[@Kugrox]

The reason he wanted to focus on Race first was because if you talk about Privilege as Race only and dont talk about any other factors you'll come to the conclusion that its ridiculous and white privilege isnt real. the real privilege is class privilege. Although I think theres a very strong argument to be made for what I refer to as "pretty privilege". the prettier someone is, the more advantages they have in society. Just look at the number of attractive people who are wealthy and compare it to the number of unattractive wealthy people. And you could use your own local area as a study case too because you can bet all the attractive people are getting promotions more often than the unattractive people. This is especially the case with young managers that hire very attractive women as eye candy for the work place. The two main privileges are wealth, and attractiveness. If you have either one, you can achieve the one you dont have. But if you have both, you are literally in an elite class that actually affects the nation on a massive scale.

[@WanderingExistence]

​@@Kugrox I don't know why you're trying to artificially boil it down to just two factors. Privileges intersectional, the level of intersectionality of different factors is based on the culture you're in- apartheid South Africa race was pretty important to intersectional privilege. Talking about this as if it's not culturally relative is fallacious. Even 'pretty privilege' is culturally relative based on what the culture deems as attractive.

[@maryglo1]

An arsonist burned our home into the ground. The county accused us of illegally demolishing the home and fined us thousands. As of two months ago the county sold the property at auction without notifying us. The injustice effects my happiness but the years of poverty and homelessness did not.

[@RenzoTravelsTheEarth]

@@WanderingExistence difference is in apartheid South Africa being black limited what you could do in life and society. In America today being black or white you can be whatever you want as long as you work hard enough. Yes being attractive, rich, male or white might help you get there fractionally quicker in some cases. But honestly the amount of time people spend complaining about other peoples relative privilege, they could have put that time into gaining the skills that would put them ahead of those people anyway.

[@WanderingExistence]

@@RenzoTravelsTheEarth If America has such economic mobility, why do 64% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck? Classism is a large piece of intersectionality. It's Called the American Dream Because You Have To Be Asleep to Believe It" - George Carlin.

[@ScottIsBetterThanYou]

Over 360,000 Americans stood up to fight and died to fix the wrong. We were not the first country with slavery, but we fought to end it. We are stronger together than apart. Do not let instigators put us against each other since it repeatedly shows is what they want.

[@KuchiKopium]

I'm taken aback to my college experience (vocational), and having to pay for my own schooling and how seriously I took my courses. Seeing shots of these students on their phones or staring off into space during this lecture is rather interesting to me, given this is a pretty intellectually interesting conversation; and intellectually stimulating or interesting conversations should be something that college students should be interested in. Rather, they seem to be checked out and only interested in filling credit hours

[@matildamiller3233]

Class/wealth privilege is a real thing. I was born and raised in the Appalachians. In the words of Theo Vaughn regarding white privilege "missed that".

[@janetdesmith8125]

This guy is great. Such a sensitive issue is discussed in a civil manner.

[@HiddenBlade]

Sabrina by far has the most clear mindset on this. We should all evaluate ourselves (maybe even ask for an opinion from others) but to make this a race X vs race X thing just breeds more dissent. The fact that everything has to be about colour rather than who you are as an individual shows you how screwed up the mentality already is.

[@1htalp9]

This is a great professor, he challenges everything, which these kids obviously need, because most seem not to think very deeply about these issues.

[@tenleygarrett7100]

This was really disheartening... Just tragic to see the state of public discourse and debate in higher education today. But also, just brutal to see the brainwashing. I'll admit fully I too succumbed to the "white privilege' Kool Aid in college, and I'm amazed now at how few people questioned it.

[@jasons.6747]

Thank you for saying this. The title and idea drew me in with high hopes. However, the discourse was truly painful. The setting for this conversation was informal and laid-back, which seems like a good idea to help the students feel more comfortable talking about a sensitive topic. But in the end, it felt like a poorly planned experiment that wasn't very intellectually stimulating. The only thing positive about this is that a conversation happened, rather than not. These kids deserve better.

[@stevenmanwaring8943]

@jasons.6747 did you watch the whole thing or other videos? I'm not sure where the disconnect is but he forces them to look at it from all sides plating the devils advocate for every side in different parts to show the flaws in any rigid form of thinking

[@mujahidalmasih854]

The black dude who blamed Caleb's parents for being poor is just lying to himself. Sorry to say but your grandmother could've moved north and not picked cotton. People just love to play the victim. Caleb's parents could've got better jobs but his grandmother was somehow forced into a bad job in a free country? A victim mentality never helps anyone

[@jeevandhillon00]

Have you heard of the underground railroad?

[@Hades44481]

@@jeevandhillon00 not the point

[@benjamin5726]

@@jeevandhillon00 yeah but he said it was after slavery she was free. It wouldnt have been easy at all to move back then but thats what every person regardless of race was going through at that time.

[@SchmulKrieger]

It also says about him that he thinks he is somewhat better than Caleb.

[@benjamin5726]

@@SchmulKrieger and his family is better and his race is better is what he thinks…