24 Levels of Finger Control in osu!: Easy to Complex

[@lilwage6910]

a version of this video that goes on forever with hypno saying shit like "level 302 is 162 note streams. if you understand how 165 and 163 note streams work, you can imagine it as a 163 note stream with the end chopped off, but some people find it easier to think of it as a 160 note stream with a double at the end"

[@Garfield_Osu]

lmfao

[@SirYourPizza]

Lmao wtf

[@imthecryptic]

I really need this. Been having problems with 162 note streams for a while now

[@Fauhltss]

Remember kids, You only need level 2 to fix yourself a harumachi clover play

[@Zyrexia]

lol

[@CapyTheBara1]

I like this comment 😎

[@sophiaisabelle01]

We appreciate your effort and hard work on this channel. God bless you.

[@honmi]

thank you so much T_T

[@meow2841]

@@honmi definitely the best content creator rn

[@smauguh]

Came in order to improve as a player but came out with more knowledge for a potential mapper carrier... Thanks Hypno!

[@d.f.x.2481]

1: howdy from your twitch chat 2: i feel like learning to alternate early is such a good advantage because for later maps single tapping will be inefficient because of the high amount of bursts/stacks/streams 3: also keep up the quality content :-)

[@honmi]

I also personally agree that alternating is superior if you had to pick one to stick with, but it's too much of a personal bias for me to want to include in the video

[@d.f.x.2481]

@@honmi i feel like you could have slightly dwelled into this by going into starting different patterns with a different finger each time then tying it up together. That way you would make your non-dominant finger be more dominant so it would be closer to your dominant one. By doing this over time you would be able to start alternating even if you have a dominant finger (for example starting a pattern after a break/at the start of a song with the same finger but still be good with continuing the next pattern with your other finger) (which is also the point i am kinda at)

[@masterchefmarshall]

I will say that I fully alternate (or did, now my tapping is a disgusting mass of different tapping styles) but even to this day I do not have a dominant finger. It has made finger control slightly earlier but not by much. Honestly with the kind of hours you need to get to the later levels of finger control. You will get so used to your tapping style that it really doesn't matter all that much.

[@Nirux]

YES FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT HOW I SAID IT. The Sliderend triples. I had a fat discussion about this on stream where my viewers all said its a slider going into a double but I explained it how you said it... (less detailed) Also I singletap but hit the pattern like on 9:29 but like 1 2 3 and not 1 2 1 (So I tap it exactly like a burst, I called it an elongated burst bc you just hold down first finger longer)

[@Nirux]

also I noticed I dont tap 1 2 3 but 1 2 1 bruh I'm just stupid (I just got up when I commented this)

[@d.f.x.2481]

Some maps i would suggest for people that want to improve/test their finger control are: - Sputnik 3 (difficulty from 2* and up so solid for all skill levels) (the song from level 24) - Rubik's cube (a combination of different types of finger controll patterns) - Feral (a combination of 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/8 rythms with a lot of switches between the beats to test your finger controll to the limit)

[@ariashark]

feral is such a good track/map

[@frode0444]

play ktgster

[@dexorne9753]

Sputnik speed gaps me :(

[@d.f.x.2481]

@@dexorne9753 nobody will blame you if you can't pass one of the diffs first try, just keep playing and use the map as a "milestone" to see how good you are at finger controll. You could even just start with the 3* diff and go up from there

[@d.f.x.2481]

@@ariashark Indeed it is with all the rhythm changes it is a nice test for finger controll/speed/accuracy

[@puppeteer3964]

please do not forget the effect of bpm on the difficulty of fingercontrol 180 finger control is way way way easier than lets say 200bpm

[@honmi]

I think this just depends on your comfort with the bpm and differs per player, but yes it's true that the bpm will affect how comfortably you can tap

[@puppeteer3964]

@@honmi from my experience on 225 finger control just being able to play 225 normally isnt enough to play -45 maps like ena thats why i brought it up

[@kuratse205]

As a full alt player, I am absolutely clueless about this topic, 1/3s are just 0.75x bpm bursts, and basically everything is just a stream if you think about it; 1/2s are just half bpm streams.

[@jojomark4946]

1/1 rhythm = quarter notes 1/2 rhythm = eighth notes 1/3 rhythm = triplets 1/4 rhythm = 16th notes etc.. rhythm 3/4 or 4/3 rhythm = 3:4 or 4:3 polyrhythm etc... rhythms

[@ShyWhy96]

amazing work, you're my favorite osu content creator i love how you breakdown these technical stuff when other people just say "play more"

[@SixDigitOsu]

Actual banger video, thanks daddy🥵👍

[@90enemies]

Another certified banger Digital Hypno video. Also really *love* the finger close up. I wish more people (especially top players) would use this camera angle.

[@DarkmeLP3333]

i watched this at 1.5 speed, too much input ill rewatch after work. Good video!

[@BakedKitsune]

Ayo as a player who takes a musicians method to this game; this was super nice to help figure out hammering different rhythm combos

[@MMenyan]

27:47 "feel free to explore" WHERE 😭 it's hard to find stuff with mixed beatsnap that isnt multiples of 3 and 4, if you know some lists or smth thatd be great

[@coffeebreak7668]

Yeah honestly I just played a bunch of deviouspanda maps and now my brain just gets it.

[@RieMUisthegoaT]

level 24 is the bane of my existence, I'm currently mapping a song which is around 5.5* but has fucking 1/8 doubles mixed in, no doubles or 1/3s but there's a random 1/8 every now and then lol also no 1/5, 1/7, 1/12 hmm

[@TeamYosh]

I love playing P_O's maps since they are low AR but am lacking finger control hopefully this will help me

[@thacer13]

I think it's completely fair to call you the pishifat of osu! gameplay

[@CalebBrown-yv1qw]

I thought I was a full alt player but this video made me realize that I use my weaker finger to start bursts/doubles. Don't know how I got here but time to fix it

[@sonicwaveinfinitymiddwelle8555]

this is not only good explanation for finger control but it seems to be good tutorial for map creating

[@MMenyan]

yea, lots of the video focuses on it from a mapping perspective about rhythm and it's ordered in a way that favours that which is cool

[@davids7646]

not enough 1/5 and 1/10 map

[@walavouchey]

wow this turned out really well! the explanations were mostly super clear and the occasional slow-downs and editor timeline inserts were very informative. since the music wasn't audible i think the presentation suffered a bit when introducing 1/3 rhythm, because the feeling of the time signature depends on where you feel the strong beats. without a metronome or some hitsounding, it comes across as just being slowed down a bit without really emphasising the waltz. same for 1/6.

[@honmi]

thank you wala !! yes that's a good point with 1/3 and 1/6, I tried to demonstrate a bit by playing a 1/2 pulse and 1/3 pulse right next to each other but it's hard to really show without the game audio T_T will keep in mind if I make videos like this in the future. glad you enjoyed !!

[@whereisaim4022]

Triples are not easy, took me a very very long time(current time:960hrs) to be able to hit some of it usually 1x 100 per triple Idk if anyone out there struggling almost wanna quit OSU cuz of it but I suggest using the editor and tapping to the triple with the editor at 50% if u need to I'm just untalented ig but I still like rhythm games

[@Fight4myForever]

You should actually improve your single tap speed with both fingers, because in theory it would make you twice as fast

[@smeshmunya]

I feel like an important level involving 3/4 long sliders (including but not limited to the 2-repeat 1/4 ones in the middle of a stream) was missed. Some patterns that involve those may be confusing finger control-wise, the most common issue may be where there's only one such kickslider in the middle of a stream instead of a pair - if you're taught any 1/4 gap warrants a finger switch, suddenly it's not your dominant finger hitting the main beats after it.

[@Raidenduck]

My finger control is so broken, I mostly single tap with my pointer finger but I am physically unable to start bursts with that finger due to really bad habits, however for some reason I always end slider head bursts with my pointer finger which leads me to tapping an extra time on those patterns almost always. Worse yet, it works really well compared to whatever else I try and has caused me to get really good at consecutive slider head triples because I’m basically just streaming, but that has a really bad effect on actual triples and many other patterns. This video has made me very motivated to fix this, so thanks for the motivation. Also, this video is genuinely great, and certainly the best vid on this topic

[@Raidenduck]

I needed to get this off my chest somehow and thought this a good place to do it lol

[@kuratse205]

As a full alt player who has no clue about singletapping, my advice is to try full alt for a few weeks. Might break up that habit and equalise the finger muscles.

[@MMenyan]

you can also try singletapping with your other finger to even things out and avoiding faster/more complex patterns until you have some control. either way, it'll be awkward at first

[@TakeYourTimeBack]

I struggle with triples, usually getting 100 by 3rd note, pressing it too early, that is why My acc is bad, I will try all mapset for triple from your video, hope this helps

[@Da.swaggermaista]

so what you are saying is that ekoro is a metric genius

[@hepersopon4459]

yes

[@iusu_Y]

i have big problems with a slider into a double (blue to white line) and then quaver reset into 7 quaver jumps. All in 248 bpm. The maps called chAngE and is a 460 pp play with dt. Idk why but i never get to hit that

[@Zyrexia]

I was wondering if there is a way I can neutrally train both of my fingers equally instead of having a dominant finger. I feel like I try to start fast bursts with my middle finger, but in case I have a random note in the middle where I already used my middle finger, the next burst, my natural instinct takes over and I consecutively try to start the next burst with the middle finger again, but fail. I don't think I am making much of a sense, but it's like I want to do this - 121212 1 212121 and this is what I am doing 121212 1 121212 where 1 represents middle finger and 2 represents index

[@xCLiCH3E]

cant believe my PC dies on the day you release the video I've always wanted so bad XD

[@GermanMcCookies]

its so hard when you always used to start with the same finger on a triple. i try that i can start with both my fingers that i can click (1-2-1) (2-1-2). Any tips to learn it i have a massive mindblock i dont can start with the other finger

[@jkfjsfaugueyfhsdfjfafajjgu6769]

As an alt 6 didget (130k) i’m crying watching the spotnik 3 play (level 24)

[@masterchefmarshall]

I absolutely love this video. I am someone who enjoys rhythmically complex maps. But as a 45k I am not the best at finger control yet. I feel like I should practice reading lower ar maps. As there seems to be a lot of banger finger control maps below 9.3 ar which is where I can comfortably read most maps.

[@softecat2123]

I always called 1/3 rhythm triplets because of marching band.

[@elementalgolem5498]

coming from a music education background its confusing to see rhythm be basically flipped on its head. ngl

[@nickelisblind]

As a comment section and I once said: "I came here just to click some circles and I somehow ended up learning about myself."

[@Luc_727]

Meshuga’s bleed should be level 25 of finger control lmao

[@kolja783]

Level 25 is understanding this video is completely unnecessary if you learn to recognize which finger you'll end on depending on whether there's an odd or even amount of notes in a stream

[@FearsomeForeskin]

There is maps like Ievan Polkka mapped by Sinnoh where you can practice breaking harder alternating patterns down into doubles making aiming and tapping them more intuitive with some practice

[@JustMatchmaking]

You did an incredible job breaking down music theory concepts for people who don't have a musical background, good work! My only critique would be that I wish the audio examples you used for the single/double section were included for most or all of the other levels. It may have especially made conveying the slider section easier. That said, I will be rewatching to get maps and as a refresher. Again, amazing explanations!

[@honmi]

@@JustMatchmaking thank you so much for the kind words!!

[@tarragon112]

this is just a music theory lesson tbh

[@Nole2701]

Good video but honestly, for every part, show the gameplay and tapping on its own with no voiceover. A lot of patterns I know when I see/hear it but is hard from just seeing the circles with almost no sound.

[@Sou-Osu]

I really like to singletap airincat maps like shinunoga ewa 2nd diff

[@footsoljier6468]

Explaining rhythm the way you did, as a musician, made me cringe. But then I thought about it and realized this makes more sense to the average person

[@honmi]

@@footsoljier6468 lol sorry yeah I did use osu-specific terminology (and tried to avoid music theory terminology) because obviously that's the target audience of this video

[@santaisreal]

is it not normal that for "sliderend triples" and other sliderend bursts i tap the slider with my dominant finger, then start the burst with dominant finger too? ive just been doing that the whole time and im 4 digit now so i dont see why i would do it the other way, it does make more sense though

[@BreadTeleporter002]

I personally have never swapped tapping hand for going into sliders to triples or jumps into triples, it seems like both are viable and if anything when I tried to tap bursts starting with with other hand I seemed to acc significantly worse for some reason. I'm not a standard kinda player- I'm pretty ass but I'm a Tap-x'r who likes playing speed and slower finger control :> So for jumps I would Tap, tap, X tap What he thinks I should be doing is Tap, X, tap, X, which honestly makes more stress on my non dominant hand so I'm not sure.

[@rezan3524]

I hate that i can play odd perfect stacks just fine but for even notes higher than 4 i just suck at it

[@tinyz7575]

For me, it starts with jumping to a difficult beatmap at the time, seeing how I can't keep up and struggle. Then, a few weeks later, I play the same map and struggle slowing myself down, especially for streams.

[@irfok727]

The amount of effort put into this... Ur the best 💯

[@vovovovovovovovovovovovovovovo]

All a finger needs is Night of Knights [SOLO 1.43x (257bpm) OD9.5] This is the pinnacle of Finger.

[@syre7608]

keep up the solid content dude lets go

[@gdshordy5008]

My issue fingering skills greatly increased by playing stream maps

[@Bebe-rn2fh]

huh, i’ve never seen someone tap with index and ring like that before

[@quanjames]

Just finished to add all song into different playlist of levels. Now its time to beat them. Long way to go

[@birdineye4738]

I love sputnik. Hate that half of my notes feel like 100's; I'm glad I recognize it though lol.

[@havoc4381]

This finger control maplist is Star Rating whiplash omg

[@Pet_Hedgehog]

idk man triples with a slider at the end seem easier to me than straight up bare triples

[@goofycat-jv8pf]

Love ur videos . I actually play better maps Ktgster and Val0108 after ur video.

[@klratz]

Amazing video! Love how much time and effort you put into these

[@nahnvm8493]

if you can't do up to level 18 and you're 5 digit or better, then you messed up somewhere

[@looz727]

i was 5d a year back and i'd say i can only do until lv14, anything past that is just luck whether or not i can hit those notes correctly 💀

[@MKplxxg]

i play mania and this was interesting to watch lmao

[@Sebastian-nt3xt]

Nice video but i dont speak english ;w;

[@CusnarutoYT]

what's the name of the penguin plush behind you :0 tks!

[@honmi]

penguin nap pillow from miniso

[@Yami-ep9cr]

My guy making banger videos Keep going!

[@snotkop7528]

Got to level 20 and realised i forgot about everything you said before 😢. Good video tho.

[@dergrive88]

Lmao every time I look at his fingers I see him tapping 2 times with one finger and 1 time with the other and I think to myself, how the hell is he doing that lmao

[@xeniamorph]

TIL there's ways to play other than alternating

[@amkod.311]

good video but it would also be nice if for every level you had a small sample of how it would sound like played

[@christallmighty1035]

i really dodged a bullet switching to full alt at 7 didgit

[@norikitsune]

I recommend the no slider extra difficulty on Non-breath oblige to test how good your finger control is c:

[@ziixu]

good video! high effort =)

[@Va_Vil_On]

Level 69: Deception dive spam

[@jogoutorusa9181]

Quads on envy baby just destroys me easily

[@Jay.d.en20]

Bro has an osu improvement video monopoly

[@meikyeon]

Great and informative video ya I'll keep these stuff in mind for improvement thanks! Also your fingers and your tapping is cute and satisfying ya ww

[@iPhong]

Level 25: polyriddm

[@buneco05]

Not related, but your fingers look beautiful. I bite my nails, so I'm used to hide my fingers by shame. Hope to get to this level someday

[@honmi]

oh thank you!! don't give up, one less bite is one step closer

[@Yoyo4lyf]

What is a 5 note pattern that takes the same time as a normal triple? Is it a 5 note burst in 1/6?

[@honmi]

that would be a 1/8 quint

[@Jiixi]

i wanna try clicky switches for osu now :(

[@kayziix9618]

He switched from index+middle finger to index+ring finger at the end??

[@honmi]

I was switching around between the video to showcase different tapping styles

[@Saphity]

YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! Finally Love the content keep it up

[@MrM30w]

cool video, do you want to do some 1v1s

[@fusionmotiontm]

do you have links for the specific maps youre playing in this video? they seem really good for practise

[@honmi]

check the document linked in the description!

[@Alex-if8ym]

early

[@Mornis457]

dereban would like to speak

[@GR8_R8]

Level 25: Kanbu

[@jasonstarrising]

ur so cracked

[@lokki9129]

hypno, how do u do triples when alting especially when them triples come in between dt jumps

[@honmi]

keep practicing alting triples. if you have a dominant finger, it can help to practice singletapping / starting patterns with your other finger to balance it out

[@lando7243]

This may be a lot to ask, but could you link the maps used at each section of the video? Thanks :)

[@honmi]

check the document in the description!

[@lando7243]

@@honmi sorry for not noticing sooner, much thanks!!!

[@FC-mt3gj]

Where was this video when I started, great work!

[@Gxlto]

Wait until he hears about double notes (double taps/double stacks)

[@emmyciyat9904]

I hate those damn things 💀

[@MMenyan]

wait until someone makes an osu std taiko mod for lazer where the circles are coloured red/blue for don/katsu (z/x)

[@aTree1]

jokes on you I have none

[@chrisdrums1910]

these do just be drum rudiments

[@sydosys]

just play the drums and this will all be intuotive

[@nekoandere248]

Lodin da fish water

[@lemon_maho]

I'm wobbling

[@HOLO_DD]

Underrated vid

[@harunora13]

I am a new player in osu. Regarding the debate between alternating/dominant finger, which one should i get used to? (I notice my middle finger is dominant but i do alternate sometimes and other times singletap depending on which side of the bed i woke up at)

[@honmi]

if you really had to pick only one, I personally feel like alternating has more advantages. but again, it's up to you

[@harunora13]

@@honmi Is there any way to actually practice alternating? I usually see myself end up spam hitting a triple/ 5notes with my dominant finger (middle) most of the time

[@masterchefmarshall]

@@harunora13 honestly when I first started it just kind of came naturally. But one thing I did do was play every map the same way every time. If I struggled on a rhythm like a triple or a bpm speed up than I would try other maps with slightly slower bpm of that. Also when you do get to the point that you are playing 5* and above alt maps are super fun to play.