FSU Embarrassed By Boston College - Josh Pate Rapid Reaction

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@JoshPateCFB
@JoshPateCFB 2 ай бұрын
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@Tuck-d3t
@Tuck-d3t 2 ай бұрын
Plz listen kj bolden is starting at Georgia as a freshman 1st game travis hunter is a star at Colorado both were top recruits for fsu norvell isn't playing his freshmans and sophomores he's relying on the portal he can't recruit jimbo had a top 5 recruit class 4 yrs straight norvell hasn't had a top 12 class in 5yrs
@stevelenores5637
@stevelenores5637 2 ай бұрын
If Danny is down because he bet FSU then I pray that he learned not to gamble.
@volusiasorange
@volusiasorange 2 ай бұрын
immunity
@truettjohnson7230
@truettjohnson7230 Ай бұрын
Couldn't Happened to a better better group of people
@dezgarrett2790
@dezgarrett2790 2 ай бұрын
We knew this was coming when they quit at the end of last season. Georgia was ranked number 1 in the country, lost one game and was left out of the playoff. Yet, they still showed up and played in that bowl game.
@JJJJ-he8bz
@JJJJ-he8bz 2 ай бұрын
Why does everyone say they quit? They went 13-0 only to be told they weren’t good enough by a bunch of random people in room. They used that Jordan Travis injury of an excuse just to keep the SEC in and everyone knows that. Georgia had an opportunity against Alabama and chocked when it mattered. Florida State wasn’t giving that opportunity over a bunch of hypothetical assumptions . No one gives a shit about Georgia beating Florida States backups with a 3rd string quarterback. Michigan is seen as the national champions.
@GDoggy-em2xc
@GDoggy-em2xc 2 ай бұрын
Georgia exposed FSU
@EricMakulu
@EricMakulu 2 ай бұрын
Not an FSU fan but opting out to preserve your potential draft value isn't quitting. The issue with FSU is they have built their program with transfer talent and when that talent left, they tried to reload with transfer talent but they whiffed on those transfer selections and here they are now
@soysergent
@soysergent 2 ай бұрын
@@EricMakuluall those guys that sat out were not first rounders, everyone would understand if that were the case. They quit when they didn’t get into the playoff and they haven’t won a game since. There’s no way to detach those ideas whether they build through recruiting or the portal, which most would agree with you on. The portal as your 1st option is definitely a crapshoot, but the team that has taken the field against GT and BC didn’t want to be there.
@JonathanReed1970
@JonathanReed1970 2 ай бұрын
@@soysergent First rounder or not DOESNT matter....regardless when drafted, you stand to make millions. You would OPT out of a meaningless bowl game as well. And for all the clowns who say UGa didnt quit...NOT the same. UGa GOT what they deserved because THEY LOST. FSU, on the other hand, didnt get what they deserved. FSU players did what they needed to do...they WON. So why after 13 games and being told those wins didnt count should they all just risk injury and play? Norvell and the team boycotted without actually boycotting. Wake up and turn that dim lightbulb on in your head.
@tonybaggett1984
@tonybaggett1984 2 ай бұрын
I guess Saban was right about being out of luck paying the wrong guys. Championship teams are built from recruiting and supplemented with the portal not the other way around. Kind of like championship NFL teams are built by the draft and supplemented by free agency.
@GoatedAtNFS
@GoatedAtNFS 2 ай бұрын
that Ohio State quote is about to be epic if Ohio State loses to Michigan
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 ай бұрын
​@@GoatedAtNFS Why? Ohio State only acquired 7 Transfers from the Portal. They spent most of their NIL $ on retaining their roster by getting 10 of their upperclassmen to return instead of going Pro.
@Saltwater_kayak
@Saltwater_kayak 2 ай бұрын
Ohio State bought this team and everyone knows it. GTFO
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 ай бұрын
@@Saltwater_kayak Everyone is now "buying" their teams because the players want their fair share of the Billions they are generating for the P4. They should be paid a % of the TV revenue by having Player Unions negotiated on their behalf.
@talmanes4589
@talmanes4589 2 ай бұрын
@@roris5882 The whole system needs a lot more structure and stability but accusing someone of "buying" their team in 2024 is comical. Anyone who has a team in P4 bought it.
@aceboogie8576
@aceboogie8576 2 ай бұрын
I’m guessing Josh doesn’t remember saying “FSU has a top 10 staff in the country” just a few weeks ago.
@JJ-zr6fu
@JJ-zr6fu Ай бұрын
Josh never admits he’s wrong
@aceboogie8576
@aceboogie8576 Ай бұрын
@@JJ-zr6fu Nope. He’ll use the word ‘Mistaken’ at times, but that’s about it.
@na_k
@na_k Ай бұрын
FSU fan here. I never believed the staff was top 10, not even after 13-0. Josh has always talked up this staff and Mike, even when they looked like the worst staff in the P5 conferences. He seems to always defend them because he likes them, instead of critique them for what happens on the field.
@patrickdezenzio4988
@patrickdezenzio4988 Ай бұрын
Top 10 still means you can whiff in the portal. You can pull 10 guys from the portal, all the best at their position, and still whiff if there's no chemistry. It's why Calipari rarely won March madness with the best roster money can buy. Its why Billy Donovan won back-2-back titles with a great team of solid players. Horford pretty much was the only one that exceled in the NBA, yet as a team might be the best this century. They played like a Band of Brothers and it showed on the court. That's what FSU didn't do. The issue is football requires more players and the more you fill from the portal, the more unpredictable it gets and you just never know until you play the game. Same with Florida. They talked the talk all off season, looked great on paper, against themselves and then ran into a buzzsaw in Miami, who by the way, exceled in the portal this go around.
@thedrewmackattack
@thedrewmackattack Ай бұрын
Yeah
@Giamatty
@Giamatty 2 ай бұрын
Florida V.S. FSU gonna be fire this year 🤣🤣
@tacticalmattfoley
@tacticalmattfoley 2 ай бұрын
Dumpster fire!!!
@RJ-fe9pu
@RJ-fe9pu 2 ай бұрын
It could turn into a race to get fired 1st norvell has 1 good season and couldn't get it done Napier was never going to be the guy but at least norvelll has a soft schedule Napier is up the creek without a paddle and holes in the boat
@CrashB111
@CrashB111 Ай бұрын
​@@RJ-fe9puNorvell himself is not in any risk of the hot seat. His staff though, is going to have a bit of turnover. The only way Norvell ends up in hot water is if he refuses to make the needed staffing changes, and it costs FSU next season as well / their recruiting doesn't improve.
@SalseroCoreano
@SalseroCoreano Ай бұрын
one school, the coach doesn't give a shit. the other school, the players don't give a shit.
@na_k
@na_k Ай бұрын
​​@@CrashB111I hope he finally does. One of his weaknesses has been being too loyal to underperforming staff. Been an issue since year 1. If he doesn't learn, it'll be his downfall.
@TheMCJ2011
@TheMCJ2011 2 ай бұрын
It’s interesting to watch the former 2 premier programs in the ACC have the exact opposite problems with the portal. Clemson refuses to use it entirely and FSU relies on it entirely too much. That’s why the top programs (Georgia, OSU, etc.) build their team’s foundation with players they recruited from HS and then fill in the gaps/create more depth with the portal. You gotta know how to balance the fine line between avoiding it and overusing it. Also, FSU should start Brock Glenn instead of DJU from now on. The kid has a ton of potential and can actually make those big throws 💯
@willthethrill2001
@willthethrill2001 2 ай бұрын
I think Clemson and FSU are proving that you need to do great HS recruiting and fill in the gaps with the portal. I think FSU got fortunate with getting several legit NFL guys in the portal and that’s unsustainable.
@wealthyfuture4274
@wealthyfuture4274 2 ай бұрын
sept 28
@jaybeer3126
@jaybeer3126 2 ай бұрын
I don't think Florida state uses the transfer portal too much. I think they use it for the wrong reasons. You're not going to survive at the top poaching the flameouts at the big schools. Their transfer portal auditions weren't even close to Gigantic by Colorado or ole miss standards. It was that sweet spot for power 5 teams where you are between 13 to 20 transfer if your recruiting class wasn't big enough.
@TheMCJ2011
@TheMCJ2011 2 ай бұрын
@@willthethrill2001 absolutely
@chriso9749
@chriso9749 Ай бұрын
Watching Brock Glenn in FSU’s Louisville and Georgia games he looked very rough; and that first one was with highly drafted talent which FSU doesn’t have anymore. Unless he’s made a massive leap I can’t see him being better than DJU. DJU was the reason FSU lost to BC but not the reason they lost to GT.
@Jbevohorn
@Jbevohorn 2 ай бұрын
DJ U was coach Norvels biggest oversight, and one of the main reasons for the downfall.
@Flamerunner451
@Flamerunner451 Ай бұрын
DJU isn’t responsible for their front 7 bein as soft as they have been
@Galatian1
@Galatian1 Ай бұрын
Does DJ U play defense? Football is a team sport.
@tomdemay6147
@tomdemay6147 Ай бұрын
DJU is MID but he taking way too much shit. Their Oline and Dline play is MUCH WORSE than their QB play and people just shit on DJU.
@kodiakgriz2296
@kodiakgriz2296 Ай бұрын
@@Flamerunner451 true feel bad for DJU although he isnt acccurate he was good with a BETTER team than this years Beavers would beat this FSU team by 20
@Temp1000
@Temp1000 Ай бұрын
@@Galatian1for 3 quarters of that game, it was a one to two possession game. The fact that he couldn’t score more than one touchdown in a game speaks volumes to how bad he is.
@CurtDowns
@CurtDowns 2 ай бұрын
Can someone fire the Doak Campbell DJ? I couldn’t stand the music and I was watching on tv. WTF WAS THAT!
@chriswillis462
@chriswillis462 2 ай бұрын
DJ TAGGART!
@richardmills1455
@richardmills1455 2 ай бұрын
Facts
@joesmith6972
@joesmith6972 2 ай бұрын
I thought I was the only one hearing whatever that was.
@richardbrookins5406
@richardbrookins5406 2 ай бұрын
Gotta agree. That kazoo sound is even more irritating than the air horn.
@williamhauser3686
@williamhauser3686 Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing and I was watching at home too
@g-man2228
@g-man2228 2 ай бұрын
They got DJ’d!!! 😁
@therealaustink
@therealaustink 2 ай бұрын
They got dp'd!!
@Keeter904
@Keeter904 2 ай бұрын
0:55 Everyone pray for Danny Kanell 😂
@darngooddawg
@darngooddawg Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@calvinpham3857
@calvinpham3857 Ай бұрын
Is he gonna eat a plate of dog shiet
@WeeaboohJones
@WeeaboohJones 2 ай бұрын
So it’s not norvells fault . . . it’s the teams fault because of how it was assembled. Well who tf assembled the team, Josh???
@sksimmons1336
@sksimmons1336 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!!
@Sue_me347
@Sue_me347 2 ай бұрын
His logic makes no sense lol. Josh just has a hard time being critical of coaches.
@Sam-lt7tj
@Sam-lt7tj Ай бұрын
You stole the words right out my mouth, who built this team? Who gets the players, who decides to put and keep a terrible QB who couldn’t make it in other teams… Norvell!!
@titleloanman
@titleloanman 2 ай бұрын
His seat may not be hot, but the flame that will get it there just flicked on. If this season keeps going the direction it looks like it’s going, his credibility goes up in a puff of smoke. He already couldn’t recruit HS, and his pitch to portal guys was the facade that they’re going to a contender. This season is going to turn into his death spiral unless he has a miracle turn around.
@skipgumphrey9579
@skipgumphrey9579 2 ай бұрын
And I’m sure things will get even worse in Leon County after the Canes likely throw them a beating… RTR
@talmanes4589
@talmanes4589 2 ай бұрын
@@skipgumphrey9579 The interesting game is FSU vs UF, battle of the dumpster fires. Loser of that game should get fired coming off the field just on principle.
@Braisedin
@Braisedin 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I love Josh but this is one point of his I highly disagree with. That seat is getting warm and they are easily gonna lose 3 to 4 more games if this is all the has. By end season if they don't make a bowl which is highly possible he'll have a hot seat
@calebharris7850
@calebharris7850 2 ай бұрын
The thing for FSU is they just gave him a huge extension to “keep him away from bama”(even tho i guarantee they didn’t want him) so they can’t afford to get rid of him anytime soon
@richardbrookins5406
@richardbrookins5406 2 ай бұрын
You need to worry about Crystal Balls. You have won one game and act like the "U" is back...lol
@goskawow1943
@goskawow1943 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand how you say the coach isn't on the hot seat and in the next breath say they have really good players but they're not a good team
@TMan-uw5rb
@TMan-uw5rb 2 ай бұрын
The buyout is simply astronomical and FSU is not in a good position financially. Getting rid of Taggart after 2 seasons didn't help, Norvell lasting for 5 seasons has helped, but the extension last year puts his buyout at 63 million dollars. They cannot manage that. He had a good W-L record last year so that buys FSU another year to gather up the money (and hope he improves). I don't think they can afford to fire him in 2025 either though.
@holdengamble
@holdengamble 2 ай бұрын
@@TMan-uw5rbthat’s not what he asked. your response does not answer his question whatsoever. He’s talking about Josh Pate contradicting himself on every show.
@dylanschafer172
@dylanschafer172 2 ай бұрын
@@holdengambleNorvell went undefeated last year minus the bowl game you sound like Michigan fans when they said we needed to fire Harbough because he had a couple bad years. And look what he did “ which I’m sure your one of those people who will say it all came from cheating”
@themackiswack
@themackiswack 2 ай бұрын
@@holdengambleyou’ve commented 44 times on this channel, if the contradictions were a problem to you or anyone, they would’ve been gone by this point
@richardbrookins5406
@richardbrookins5406 2 ай бұрын
Because they are not playing as a team.
@Britton_Thompson
@Britton_Thompson 2 ай бұрын
"You talk about $20M rosters... but if you pay the wrong guys, you're shit out of luck!" -Nick Saban; 2024
@343Films
@343Films Ай бұрын
The Norvell glazing is insane. Man has a team talent ranking of *13th in the nation* and is now 0-3 vs *UNRANKED opponents* to start a season his team was ranked #10 entering.
@Mattswfc14
@Mattswfc14 2 ай бұрын
FSU and Norvell have the vibes of Orgeron at LSU. Spectacular season but the wheels set to completely fall off straight after. Nobody in February 2020 would have said Orgeron would he out October 2021. Don't see why i couldn't be possible here too
@kodiakgriz2296
@kodiakgriz2296 Ай бұрын
Orgeron was a fool dude cheating drinking LOL but I will give you parallel credit for the mention
@j.c.kingry9609
@j.c.kingry9609 2 ай бұрын
Lack of HS recruiting prowess. Lack of talent evaluation. Got lucky in the portal 2 years ago. FSU is in debt. Their NIL is pathetic.
@WalkerSportsLounge
@WalkerSportsLounge 2 ай бұрын
The lack of progression and development questions the credibility of a Florida State coaching staff that is in year five. Another issue that has become blatantly obvious is Norvell's recruiting struggles have finally come back to bite him in the backside. Five years in charge and his recruiting class have bear little to no fruit of his labor. Even if FSU fans want to blame DJ Uiagalelei, that still falls on Norvell for picking him out of the portal. It's also apparent Norvell hasn't competently developed any of the QBs that he has recruited and signed to the program. The best-case scenario is to change defensive coordinators over the bye week and consider putting Brock Glenn in to give themselves a spark.
@MyDesertMyDune
@MyDesertMyDune 2 ай бұрын
I agree. The team has not looked good on the field. They don't look prepared to play with everyone else and that's the fault of the coaching staff
@rancidity
@rancidity 2 ай бұрын
Maybe the coach that supported his players pitching fits and quitting isn’t a good coach
@ericstanford7670
@ericstanford7670 2 ай бұрын
That front 7 especially d line needs to do some soul searching and take pride in what they do. Those performances was embarrassing by a unit that was supposed to be one of the best in the country.
@richardbrookins5406
@richardbrookins5406 2 ай бұрын
If Brent Venerables comes open we need to run with a big bag of cash. It is time to move on from Fuller.
@NiktoonsTV
@NiktoonsTV Ай бұрын
The development of their players really culminated in the 2023 season's team. A lot of Norvell's players were already draft eligible in 2022, but opted to return another year to win a championship. Only 2 years ago FSU went 5-7, so its not like they've been this successful for long amounts of time. Coaches will have a down year sometimes, especially after a situation like that where your roster ends up gutted afterwards. And unlike Saban or Kirby, he wasnt established prior to COVID or the NIL era, so its much harder to land that high grade recruiting base without massive amounts of money (Which FSU just doesn't have, they don't have very many BIG names that have graduated from the school)
@craigharris41
@craigharris41 2 ай бұрын
I'm sure they will sue somebody.
@noletroll
@noletroll Ай бұрын
most overused (and idiotic) joke on the internet
@jamesrawson241
@jamesrawson241 Ай бұрын
@@noletroll yeah I guess it is kind of weak. Kind of like Florida State’s lawsuits!
@noletroll
@noletroll Ай бұрын
@@jamesrawson241 yeah agreed. Why would they want to strengthen the athletic programs and generate more revenue for the school? So weak. Go vote for Kamala beta
@willl7780
@willl7780 Ай бұрын
💯
@sksimmons1336
@sksimmons1336 2 ай бұрын
Josh Pate is insane. Someone please get this man some help for his awful takes. This is FSU not FAU. Mike Norvell’s seat is going to be mighty warm very soon if he doesn’t turn it around.
@CFPNOLES
@CFPNOLES Ай бұрын
Great coach but he better pour some heart into his players,because he'll be gone if they only win 1 game like I'm projecting
@TheCj126
@TheCj126 2 ай бұрын
FSU has never been the same since Jameis slipped and fumbled in the Rose Bowl.
@juanmanuelventura8203
@juanmanuelventura8203 2 ай бұрын
Pete tell Danny to see the light 💡 & Pledge Allegiance to the 🙌!!
@PleaseEnlightenMe82
@PleaseEnlightenMe82 2 ай бұрын
@@juanmanuelventura8203 we’ll see what they do after this year when ward leaves
@PleaseEnlightenMe82
@PleaseEnlightenMe82 2 ай бұрын
Except they went undefeated last year
@stephenstrickland6950
@stephenstrickland6950 2 ай бұрын
@@PleaseEnlightenMe82 Except they didn't. They got an ass-beating their last game.
@PleaseEnlightenMe82
@PleaseEnlightenMe82 2 ай бұрын
@@stephenstrickland6950 so you can go from the comment about winston, around the last 2 seasons, and connect it with this season? Interesting logic.
@nathanjamesm
@nathanjamesm 2 ай бұрын
I come back because Josh is correct. FSU fan here. Last year is last year - players opt out for nfl draft. For this year - Recruiting is NOT at the level it needs to ensure greatness.
@vasantos-re4hb
@vasantos-re4hb 2 ай бұрын
News Flash - Bill O'Brien at Boston College is no slouch. He has NFL and College experience. I don't know what FSU was thinking - BC wasn't going to roll over.
@luckysevens70905
@luckysevens70905 2 ай бұрын
One great qb comes through fsu and all of a sudden they don't have someone next in line already in house
@brutusvonmanhammer
@brutusvonmanhammer 2 ай бұрын
When was the last time a more-than-two-touchdown dog ended up WINNING by at least two touchdowns?
@billeffingmurray1224
@billeffingmurray1224 2 ай бұрын
Well, I don't know if they were a 𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒆 than 2 touchdown favorite, but the closest thing that comes to mind is the 2021 𝑺𝑬𝑪 championship game. Georgia was at least a 1 - or 1 to 2 - touchdown favorite over bama. Bama went in and won 41-24 (by 17pts).
@rxmaster03
@rxmaster03 2 ай бұрын
​​@@billeffingmurray1224Georgia was only a 6.5 pt favorite in that game
@SurferRC
@SurferRC Ай бұрын
Clemson vs bama for a natty
@edwinjones-z5x
@edwinjones-z5x 2 ай бұрын
It is Norvell's team that he put in place and blaming the players just like Kelly at LSU is a total cop out and mis read by you Josh a talking head. This is Norvell's 5th year in as head coach of FSU. STOP WITH THE EXCUSES.
@brianhbinesh
@brianhbinesh 2 ай бұрын
You think FSU is ready for the SEC now?
@kittlee3747
@kittlee3747 2 ай бұрын
I’d say, maybe the Mountain West? They could definitely beat San Jose St and Hawaii
@billeffingmurray1224
@billeffingmurray1224 2 ай бұрын
Ironically that could be part of the problem they are dealing with right now. FSU acted like they were too good for the ACC...now the ACC teams feel disrespected so they're coming for FSU like chariots of fire. OU suffered from a similar thing last year, their last season in the big 12. The big 12 teams (such as Kansas & OK St) felt disrespected that OU & TX were leaving for the SEC (even though that was about money and not level of competition). So the traditional big 12 teams gave both TX & OU their best shot possible. Texas was good enough to overcome that adversity but OU really struggled with it. Now, I believe, you're seeing something similar with FSU in the ACC right now. It may not be the whole issue but I think it factors into it.
@sandimartin799
@sandimartin799 Ай бұрын
Nooooo... SEC doesn't need them
@kodiakgriz2296
@kodiakgriz2296 Ай бұрын
@@kittlee3747 yeah uh huh the brand is the best in state of Florida NO DOUBT Miami and UF havent won hardware since Bush and Obama Sworn in respectively THEY ARE ALWAYS THE MOST WATCHED team in the state nationally ...LMFAO that is WHAT MATTERS..its CHESS not checkers b'wuddy;)
@willl7780
@willl7780 Ай бұрын
​@kittlee3747 are you SURE about that? 😅😅😅😅
@itsregular8875
@itsregular8875 2 ай бұрын
the music gets me everytime 😂
@Jbsutt
@Jbsutt Ай бұрын
There HAS to be something done to regulate the transfer portal, as well as NIL. These things are killing what makes college football unique: which is program loyalty, and boys becoming better men by having to dig in and deal with adversity, rather than a player running to the portal every time he isn't satisfied with his playing time.
@glenwest1911
@glenwest1911 Ай бұрын
Man!!; Outstanding take, I agree with you,1000%.
@russelleads2145
@russelleads2145 2 ай бұрын
I agree with that about the portal and recruiting, that's why I am all in on Huepel at UT!
@rileyshane78
@rileyshane78 2 ай бұрын
You can’t spell Norvell without 2 L’s
@TimS-i4v
@TimS-i4v Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@sherrodmyrion7251
@sherrodmyrion7251 Ай бұрын
The guy who's 23-5 in the past 28 games???
@rileyshane78
@rileyshane78 Ай бұрын
@@sherrodmyrion7251 weak conference play no one , 63-3 proved that
@stevehenson3325
@stevehenson3325 2 ай бұрын
I’m speaking on both games. DJ looked heavy and slow footed. DL and OL got pushed around. No one, who started, looked like they wanted to be there. No enthusiasm and no heart out of any of the starters. Go ahead and start the back up QB. Find some 2nd string guys who wanna play
@kevinlindstrom8486
@kevinlindstrom8486 Ай бұрын
Preach, brother. Preach the Truth, all day, all night. Especially about what it takes to win in college football, especially about team building. Preach.
@lydialynne
@lydialynne 2 ай бұрын
Josh, asking me to pray for Danny Kanell is like asking me to burn my house down. I’ll pray for him, but I’d much prefer that Jesus change my water into wine.
@Gustarx
@Gustarx 2 ай бұрын
Boston College growing into a real program based on the last few years and their new head coach.
@StetsonBennett-n2w
@StetsonBennett-n2w Ай бұрын
Josh Pate changes like the wind
@synitarthrax5618
@synitarthrax5618 2 ай бұрын
Who is worse. FSU or the Gators? I guess we need to see game 2 from the Swamp to make it fair but after that, the question will stand.
@dennislopez1272
@dennislopez1272 2 ай бұрын
Worse? More than likely the Seminoles. Need to see more to be positive. One thing is for sure....Seminoles are a really bad team.
@v.l.c3979
@v.l.c3979 2 ай бұрын
Gators are better
@willl7780
@willl7780 Ай бұрын
FSU i think
@nate2972
@nate2972 2 ай бұрын
Any coach in a power conference starting 0-2 in their 5th season, should be on the hot seat. He put the team together. It’s his team, his fault.
@GDoggy-em2xc
@GDoggy-em2xc 2 ай бұрын
Norvell might not be on the hot seat but that seat is getting pretty damn warm.
@TheBullethead
@TheBullethead 2 ай бұрын
I remember in my freshman year at Texas A&M, 1982, our 1st game was against Boston College. Neither I nor any of my peers had ever heard of that institution and remember, we were all freshmen with decent GPAs and high ACT/SAT scores so had recently been recruited by a lot of schools we'd never heard of before. besides the ones we were actually were interested in. And yet, NONE of us had heard of BC. So, we thought this was the typical opening game of a reasonably powerful team (back in the Southwest Conference days, remember) taking a cupcake for a warm-up before getting into serious business. And BC won 38-16. although most of us who were there remember it being like 52-10 or some such because it felt like such an ass-whupping. They had this quarterback named Doug Flutie whom you might have heard of. I mean, he even ended up on Wheaties cereal boxes not long after, which was a real honor back in the day, besides all his other awards and subsequent, rather successful, NFL career. So that was part of it. But their defense was obviously better than our offense, too, and only deep-in nerds remember anybody on that BC defense. So year, BC can bushwhack "more powerful" schools if it has a Flutie driving the bus and a bunch of competent unknowns on defense. BUT, that was over 40 years ago. The whole recruiting/NIL/portal thing has happened since then, so you'd think this would be rather less likely to happen today. That it happened to FSU just now speaks VOLUMES of the state of the FSU team. So yeah, things are bad there.
@billeffingmurray1224
@billeffingmurray1224 2 ай бұрын
Great story!
@TrojanManXLT
@TrojanManXLT Ай бұрын
Beautiful video ❤❤❤
@seminolefantodd4736
@seminolefantodd4736 2 ай бұрын
Yes, our staff needs an upgrade (looking at you Randy Shannon) but until we get into a conference that pays better that adds to the climb. And I agree, high school recruiting needs to improve immediately.
@davidjackson4308
@davidjackson4308 2 ай бұрын
FSU has a "group" of players, not a "team", which is hard to build with a bunch of guys who just met each other.
@lamarazmoe6438
@lamarazmoe6438 2 ай бұрын
I give that game ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ love from Dade County
@dudekdudek9095
@dudekdudek9095 2 ай бұрын
305 🏈
@lifehappensfast_21
@lifehappensfast_21 2 ай бұрын
FBS 10 pt favorites 71-1 FSU 0-2 😂😂😂
@holdengamble
@holdengamble 2 ай бұрын
He said double digit favorites are 71-1 and FSU is 0-2 as a DD favorite?? That’s mathematically impossible. That doesn’t even make any sense at all. This show is falling apart.
@dougsholly9323
@dougsholly9323 2 ай бұрын
"That is one of the consequences of leaning on the portal". This is exactly why Dabo is reluctant to shop the portal and 100% of the reason I support him. If recruiting wasn't a thing, I might be persuaded that the critics of Dabo are correct. But that's not the case.
@CoastalSpark23
@CoastalSpark23 2 ай бұрын
Joel Klatt said this on his show, but Dabo’s issue has been with Quarterbacks, not the portal. Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence were amazing, but later in their college careers they started masking other issues on the team.?When DJ played for Trevor after getting COVID in 2020, everyone thought that he was the next up. Didn’t pan out in ‘21. ‘22 was better though but he still had his struggles. Cade Klubnik plays in spots, people think he’s gonna be an upgrade and his first year starting was a lot of up and down. I believe Cade still has potential, but DJ is struggling mightily, and who knows when it gets better.
@dougsholly9323
@dougsholly9323 2 ай бұрын
@@CoastalSpark23 This has been my observation as well. He'll get talent but things just don't work out like they seem like it should. That'll happen on any team.. talent will be a bust. There may even be some inner workings/coaching that is causing issues that aren't obvious. My point has been that diving into the portal isn't necessarily the fix. And some people will claim that "if only Dabo would show the portal, they'd be national champions" or some such nonsense. Honestly, FSUs current plight is evidence of that. The portal is just one source for talent. It's not the end all be all of talent.
@davida730
@davida730 Ай бұрын
"Leaning on" and "supplementing" are two very different things.
@jacoblegg1783
@jacoblegg1783 2 ай бұрын
Swear that music and you talking made me think of the preacher on Sundays at the end of the service having the lady play the piano and the preacher asking people if they need to come to the alter😂
@ericlowry5
@ericlowry5 2 ай бұрын
Love ya Pate…but you said you would defend Norvell and then laid out all of the reasons he is failing. Then said his seat isn’t close to hot, but then said switching to traditional recruiting to build a roster takes years. Sounds like this team can be pretty bad for a couple years based on your trajectory? I am confused. Why isn’t his seat hot again?
@marcusreilly1011
@marcusreilly1011 Ай бұрын
I live in florida . Them not showing up for the bowl game last year showed me mike either lacks leadership or doesnt have control of team.
@DubReed00
@DubReed00 Ай бұрын
Thank you Norvell for turning down the Bama job…ROLL TIDE ROLL! 🐘
@davidknollhoff3942
@davidknollhoff3942 Ай бұрын
Yikes. I am a die hard FSU fan and what Josh Pate just communicated is spot on and scary real for this season for the FSU football team. Maybe FSU should just play recruited non transfer portal players. Build for 2025.
@samthomas3383
@samthomas3383 Ай бұрын
As a Mizzou Fan, im very excited for BC to come in. It will finally be our first test.
@miketemple7686
@miketemple7686 2 ай бұрын
Once I heard that Coach Norvell was going after DJ as his QB, I just knew this program was lost in the woods. Both Coach Norvell and DJ are really good guys. But really good guys don’t seem to be getting the job done. Time for us to talk about who should replace Norvell.
@docbrockyt
@docbrockyt 2 ай бұрын
Hmmm... players getting paid. Wonder what that does to their motivation. Young man gets the bag, knows all he has to do after that is show up.
@wisewords9116
@wisewords9116 Ай бұрын
Josh knows football
@nadeau
@nadeau 2 ай бұрын
Mike Norvell should use the transfer portal. I hear that makes you better.
@RT22-pb2pp
@RT22-pb2pp 2 ай бұрын
@@nadeau yes he should transfer to div 2 school where he belongs lol
@patrickdezenzio4988
@patrickdezenzio4988 Ай бұрын
Maybe this is why Dabo doesn't use the portal. Isn't this his main reason why he doesn't like the portal - guys won't give their all because they aren't loyal to the team, they are loyal to the $$$. If you have too many on the team from the portal, you have X number of egos all vying for attention and if they don't gel, they don't excel and that leads to infighting.
@GoatedAtNFS
@GoatedAtNFS 2 ай бұрын
fun fact ACC teams who are suing the the ACC: 0-3 ACC teams who aren’t suing the ACC: 15-2 also: you’re not going to the SEC or B1G, so stay in your conference and quit trying to make it all about yourselves
@zachellenburg5738
@zachellenburg5738 2 ай бұрын
I’m not a Clemson or FSU fan but I totally understand why they want out. They bring in the majority of revenue for their conference yet don’t make much. It’s annoying how realignment has ruined college football, but FSU and Clemson really don’t have a choice if they want to stay competitive.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 ай бұрын
The most valuable brands will be in the B1G and SEC after the ACC implodes, including ND.
@noletroll
@noletroll Ай бұрын
Oooo what a fun fact. You do know FSU has other sports besides football right? Dumb dumb dumb comment
@MyDesertMyDune
@MyDesertMyDune 2 ай бұрын
This team looked awful on the film. truly disgusting football being put out there by this team it was a disgrace to witness
@michaelabercrombie5744
@michaelabercrombie5744 Ай бұрын
FSU problem?.. could it be the "portal"?!. All we heard last year was how great their portal use was! Keep doing it right Clemson!
@yournamethere123
@yournamethere123 2 ай бұрын
Danny Kanell catching strays and I love it
@stuckinchaselandia6427
@stuckinchaselandia6427 2 ай бұрын
You missed the 1989 Seminoles. They were preseason top 10 and went 0-2
@thomaskish8392
@thomaskish8392 Ай бұрын
I wish Texas A&M had FSU on the schedule this season.....
@82bluedream
@82bluedream 2 ай бұрын
Maybe, just maybe Boston College is a better team than most think?
@stephenhill1131
@stephenhill1131 2 ай бұрын
Yes! better than FSU, but so are a lot of other teams 😂😂
@DannyProductions-og2hv
@DannyProductions-og2hv 2 ай бұрын
castellanos is good
@Justice324
@Justice324 2 ай бұрын
I was saying before the season that GT and BC would be better than most people think.
@Sue_me347
@Sue_me347 2 ай бұрын
Lol same was said about GT. They can’t all be world beaters
@michaelabercrombie5744
@michaelabercrombie5744 Ай бұрын
I just hate everyone's double speak on teams and the portal use!
@chunkynothing5773
@chunkynothing5773 2 ай бұрын
Real talk..Looking at their schedule and seeing what’s coming down the line I honestly don’t think FSU can make a bowl game if nothing changes. They already lost to what everyone said was “give me” games. Congratulations FSU Y.S.I.O and for those who don’t know what that means. “Your Season Is Over.”
@jamesrawson241
@jamesrawson241 Ай бұрын
@@chunkynothing5773 Florida State has already made it clear That if they can’t be in the playoff, they don’t want to play in a bowl. I personally don’t think both should take them however Florida State on principal should not just refuse to play in Bowls but refuse to except any bids. Why they accepted that orange bowl bid with their attitude is beyond me.
@RollTide81406
@RollTide81406 2 ай бұрын
Josh, I normally agree. But this is his 5th year. This is about to be 3 of 5 losing seasons. How did they not have a QB behind Jordan Travis??? That’s bad decision making.
@bradbeck6259
@bradbeck6259 2 ай бұрын
Josh get a grip, it’s the man’s 5th year, the fact is he can’t recruit highschool or he would have
@ltokes66
@ltokes66 Ай бұрын
I tend to agree with the X post. He was on the hot seat before last year and now the hologram from last year is still ff and people see what FSU really is. He doesn’t recruit well and has been saved by the portal once. His portal picks haven’t panned out this year and his younger players don’t look like they are developing. Just saying, seems like it’s gonna be really HOT at the end of the season when they barely or do not make a bowl game.
@jakefromstatefarm278
@jakefromstatefarm278 2 ай бұрын
Hey Josh, how bold would an 'FSU starts out 0-2' prediction have been rated this summer? Just curious
@ac__countsc5819
@ac__countsc5819 2 ай бұрын
There were guys the the portal we just thought they weren’t worth the price. Based off Norvell recruiting class. This was his first recruiting class that are seniors now. remember that was a class he pieced together during covid. Look at the all the underclassmen. Thats the classes that will produce
@dentonyoung4314
@dentonyoung4314 2 ай бұрын
Florida State's problem is that their front seven is awful and their offensive line stinks. You can't win if you lose in the trenches.
@loganthrift11
@loganthrift11 Ай бұрын
I’m glad Boston College can now say they beat a top 10 team this year😂
@charleybarley939
@charleybarley939 Ай бұрын
This time last year, Boston College was about 10 feet and 10 seconds away from losing to... Holy Cross. Ponder that.
@warriorworkstraining
@warriorworkstraining Ай бұрын
This video was more entertaining than the performance FSU put on the field last week.
@Sooner4Life28
@Sooner4Life28 2 ай бұрын
It’s the coaches job to make players a unit that works together. Norvell’s seat is getting warm.
@kialoliver4325
@kialoliver4325 2 ай бұрын
DJ Peeeeee-U Mike norvell will be on hot seat when he goes maybe 1-9 hopefully we can beat Charlestown maybe we could beat a FCS team
@booster222jc
@booster222jc Ай бұрын
Outside of DJ I'm very surprised at how weak that defensive front looks after being so talked about in the pre-season. They don't even compare to the Clemson and Georgia fronts.
@jimmclaughlin6629
@jimmclaughlin6629 Ай бұрын
So Josh, isn’t it the head coach’s job to create a culture where the players care? Last year when over half the FSU starters opted out of the bowl game spoke volumes about the culture. Georgia was the best team in the country and they were left out of the CFP, but they showed up for the bowl game. Am I missing something? I may be.
@jamesdo3086
@jamesdo3086 2 ай бұрын
Might be the most scathing I've ever heard Josh be of a team
@brianbruns7962
@brianbruns7962 2 ай бұрын
Its on Norvell, but these players are doing themselves no favors on the field.
@kevinlachance669
@kevinlachance669 2 ай бұрын
Add Kevin the Gator fan to the pray list. I'm in the dumps and this might be the worst season of college football for gator fans with this schedule and being bad....
@keltalon
@keltalon 2 ай бұрын
Trick plays just to stay in it, just wait until they start filing lawsuits to stay in it 🤣🤣🤣. I disagree he's in the hot seat can't believe you are blaming the players wow!
@NuSkwel
@NuSkwel 2 ай бұрын
The music & video faded in 😂😂😂😂
@tcsrx
@tcsrx 2 ай бұрын
I agree recruiting must get better. Let’s not pretend Florida State was left out of the playoff after going undefeated didn’t hurt Mikes recruiting efforts. Every coach in America was telling kids don’t go to Florida State because they’re in the ACC and you’ll be left out of the playoffs no matter what.
@Sasquatch__
@Sasquatch__ 2 ай бұрын
I thought we talked about winners first on this program?..
@kylefunderburk4194
@kylefunderburk4194 Ай бұрын
I disagree with Norvell not being on the hot seat. Given how last year ended and this year began (and with you calling out this team's heart), what'll be the difference between this Florida State team and the 2021 Florida team if the Noles don't turn the year around?
@CJMcDonald-xn7mn
@CJMcDonald-xn7mn 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps, Boston College is much better than people expected. They were prepared, executed, and make big plays at key points of the game.
@5tillmidnight
@5tillmidnight 2 ай бұрын
I just find it weird that the 'tops in the country' NFL scouting report for FSU was just as awful as the team is.. Crazy for experts like that to miss that badly...
@habershamjim
@habershamjim Ай бұрын
Excellent homeboy!!!!!
@susanmoss7938
@susanmoss7938 2 ай бұрын
Don't worry Danny, your friends in the ACC will always be there for you.... no matter how many lawsuits you file against us!
@RJ-fe9pu
@RJ-fe9pu 2 ай бұрын
At least it wasn't 41-17 at the home opener which blew a 33 34 year winning streak
@skii1410
@skii1410 Ай бұрын
Was I the only one that thought this was gonna be a close game? This was a 1 point game last year before FSU lost half of their starters on offense
@afterfurtherreview
@afterfurtherreview Ай бұрын
Ironic watching Dabo Swinney’s points about the portal being proved for him.
@rockytoptom
@rockytoptom 2 ай бұрын
Can't we just call a duck a duck? Do we have to dance around and play sissy foot with saying what needs to be said? Paying players, transfer portal without legitimate circumstances for some players, opting out of bowl games and the sheer number of bowl games are all ridiculously stupid and destructive.
@dudekdudek9095
@dudekdudek9095 2 ай бұрын
So far everything is Cool down here in SoBch after Week 1 unlike our in State Rivals in North Fla both are Struggling Tremendously after week 1 😂😂 305 🏈💯🔥
@Juny5
@Juny5 2 ай бұрын
BC just looked like the better team yesterday
@kbez2321
@kbez2321 2 ай бұрын
The portal is a double edged sword. Last year was the good side of the sword. This year is the bad side. It’s not sustainable long term. NIL & Transfer Portal as a combo is undefeated. Good luck going forward b/c unless they find a way to corral it & control it, this Wild Wild West style is not slowing down anytime soon
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