Late Kick Live Ep 531: CFB Expansion Latest | SECMD Reax | Miami CFP Contender | Bold Predictions

Late Kick Live Ep 531 features Josh Pate live from SEC Media Days as the big names roll through Dallas. What’s the feel around Texas and Oklahoma? Will UGA be a big favorite? What does the rest of the week look like? Big what-ifs are also on tonight’s show including Oregon missing the Big Ten Championship Game, Florida surprising people, and Will Rogers possibly shining at Washington. Bold predictions are back with the wildest things you believe about this season. The Pate State court of public opinion takes a look at Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian tonight as the season approaches. Be sure to let us know what you think, SUBSCRIBE to the channel, and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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[@JoshPateCFB]

Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! - JP

[@SWANNwillSUFFICE]

*Insert Tyrone Biggums meme* Y’all got any more of them Colombian coffees??

[@blakehennesay8574]

My opinion on Sark WAS that he was a solid football coach, with incredible football IQ, but he was a troubled man and his personal issues led him to struggle with leadership. I was at salute to Troy the day Sark came out plastered drunk to start USC’s football season. Today Sark appears to be a reformed man. He seems like he’s come out of his personal issues as far better a coach than he’s ever been, and he might even be a better coach for having had those issues. Sark has been a big part of the best versions of generational dynasties in the sport and I don’t think that’s a coincidence.

[@acelm8437]

One thing some people forget is that Texas's talent advantage might have worked against them in the Big 12. When you play Iowa State and West Virginia every year, there's not as much of a drive to improve. Cleaning up fundamentals (penalties, tackling, etc.) wasn't necessary because of the raw talent imbalance, but that's the difference between good teams and great teams. The effort Texas puts into each game might get better since they just can't afford to play down to the competition anymore.

[@camdenferris6293]

Sark: Redemption. A movie in a literal sports story.

[@Waaterbottle]

The fact that sark turned that Texas culture in the locker room around after they were in the toilet for so long is a massive achievement. Not a Texas fan, but the man is legit.

[@bmonty1915]

I think Sark turned himself around. I don't think he was a very good leader early in his career. He seems to understand that he needed to be a better person if he wanted to achieve his goals on the football field.

[@Waaterbottle]

​@@bmonty1915 I agree wholeheartedly. He genuinely doesn't seem recognizable as a leader from that point in his career. I had zero faith when Alabama hired him, and I think he became a student under Saban and reformed himself.

[@Sooner_Spy]

He's still 10 win Sark!

[@Gringo-Billy]

Hopefully him and his buddy Nansen aren't going wild in them streets.

[@colesatterfield166]

@@Sooner_Spy hes had one 10+ win season did you forget his first two at Texas? 1-2 vs OU lol. He also did horrible at USC. One 10+ win season as a head coach. BV 2nd season ever as a hed coach had 10+ win season. Sark is a drunk bum.

[@MichaelBarker1]

Need a horns down emoji

[@HeartlessWon506]

Y’all are so desperate for belonging 😂

[@HawgWyldFishing]

@@HeartlessWon506who?

[@braxtonmoore5077]

🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@zugetsui9971]

Yup, roll tide!

[@phillipalexander7862]

@@HeartlessWon506The team that dominated Texas this millenium? OU has a winning record against Texas since the last draft

[@scottd1903]

It's not that we're sick of hearing about Texas (well not just that) it's that we're sick of all these "experts" (pate included) trying to convince us that TX is, and has been, a top 5 or top 3 program after 1 very good (not great) season. As if the 15 years of 7 win football don't matter. Not only that, we're all being told that sarkisian is a top 5 or 3 coach. Before last year, his best season as a head coach was 9 wins 1 time. In his 9 full seasons as a HC, he's won 7 or less games 5 times. These are his win totals for his 9 full seasons as a HC: 5, 7, 7, 7, 8, 9, 5, 8, 12. Just given the numbers without any context and 1 sticks out as an anomaly, last year's 12 wins. Anyone would say that's a mid record by a mid coach, and would laugh if u said they're being called a top 3 or top 5 coach in the country These aren't elite numbers for the team or coach. 1 good season doesn't make a program or coach elite. I'd even argue that it was just 1 win. Had they not beaten bama last year (yes, i agree a double digit win against bama on the road was a huge win), even if they beat OK and made the playoffs, I bet we aren't getting the same level of hype and man crushing we're getting now. Texas and sark need to keep up what they started last year for multiple years before they're legitimately being talked about like they currently are.

[@marcusjones5287]

Exactly what I said, but you stated it better.

[@TipoftheSip]

Bingo

[@davidlamb12345]

texas had a perfect storm last year - hit Alabama before they gelled. all of the lil'12 was down. beat UH with the help of a missed 1st down spot. beat KSU b/c of a missed XP. texas gets the easiest SEC schedule this season of all 16 teams. THE EASIEST. they'll get a new Michigan team before they gel. They'll likely be 8-4.

[@marcusjones5287]

@davidlamb12345 All the fans and the media forgot about the Kansas State and Houston games last year. All they remember is the Alabama game, and they base their opinion about Texas being one of the top 5 teams in the country on that game.

[@scottd1903]

@marcusjones5287 yep. One great win doesn't make a program. Talk to me when they can repeat that success for a few years. How are they being thought of as higher than a team like michigan? I get it harbaugh left, but they've been elite for 3 years running, and it's not like they were bad before that. They had 3 10 win seasons over the 5 full years before 2021 (and 8 and 9 the other 2). Before last year, sark has never had a 10 win season, and Texas last one was like 2008.

[@MOOREHOUSE423]

As a die hard Bama fan i have to admit Sark was the best OC in program history . Texas has a good one in him . Roll Tide

[@adultishgambino6831]

Jesus is this being filmed in 8k? Or is it just more bandwidth in Dallas

[@johnlee7085]

French toast without syrup is definitely possible. Melted butter with powdered sugar creates a bit of a frosting as an alternative.

[@blake7675]

The shot at Jimbo 30:00 😂😂

[@dempseybirminghamfilm]

Josh if you truly are a man of the people please contact EA on releasing the game on console only. Most of the people who grew up with this game are all adults now and have gone to PC now. Surely there’s a reason why they didn’t, especially when madden is on PC.

[@ninefingerjack]

I have to imagine for the lack of modding capabilities. As this is the first year with NIL

[@dempseybirminghamfilm]

@@ninefingerjack I thought NIL probably had something to do with it but they haven’t said anything about it. Only that it’s not coming.

[@davidboniface858]

Going to have to buy a console this weekend just to play the game

[@dempseybirminghamfilm]

@@davidboniface858 that’s like 500 something dollars not including the game. 👀

[@davidboniface858]

@@dempseybirminghamfilm I think Gamestop has used consoles for $300.

[@johnlee7085]

What the oddsmakers don’t/can’t factor in is needing to include a g5 and Big12. That’s also the reason I don’t believe 10-2 sec team is a slam dunk. It’s very possible to have a 10-2 team without enough spots available.

[@TheMimic12]

It's true, I think modern rules with conference assignment ~2007 or so would be quite nice

[@trackboi24]

Statesboro, GA Shoutout! GATA BABY! GO Eagles🦅

[@literally_carl]

It’s almost fall wedding season

[@yosh_lopez]

Josh, we need the videos on Spotify too, please!!

[@forhisglory1984]

Sets, reps, exercises, frequency

[@dalemurphy808]

Another Awesome show !!..

[@portknox565]

Go Canes! Great show Pate! 🙌🏽🍻🤙🏽

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

Ofc the miami fans love this guy lmao, and the texas a&m fans the glazing is insane

[@edwinthorpe2663]

I do think that prediction was including potential postseason games when it said Clemson would win under 10. Predicting at least 4 losses for Clemson is a little bolder.

[@andrewpruitt7770]

We hold LSU to the highest standard. We should be a tier 1 team every year. 10 wins isn’t enough

[@Shawn-gr8yj]

Lmao u ain't alabama ohio st georgia , stop it!

[@andrewpruitt7770]

@@Shawn-gr8yj we have more national titles in the last 25 years than all of those but Bama

[@N8TheGreatG]

Anyone notice how insanely overrated Colorado, Travis Hunter and Sanders are in College Football 25? It's ridiculous 🤦‍♂️

[@khalifmccoy2904]

Cope harder

[@ohc4]

SEC should let Vandy go to Big 10 and pick up Clemson, NC and Duke if the ACC folds

[@richardcordella4147]

Did Josh dismiss 9-3 for LSU, who went 9-3 last year and lost a lot of the team, but then said 9-3 was a good season for Clemson? Love the show, by the way, just wondering.

[@richardcordella4147]

I definitely liked Brian Kelly's energy Monday. Last year, it was a lot of "Yeah, we like our offense, but our defense stinks." This year, it's a bunch of "We're gonna score a bunch of points, I don't think we're gonna allow a bunch of points, let's go." Even if it's unearned hype fuel, at least someone's confident.

[@jeaniethompson1919]

Is the tour named yet? Love to tell my friends to be aware!

[@levik1283]

Yes this is how it always is with Texas. It happened sometimes with Oklahoma but least they deserved it. Also this crap about how Texas no going to always be playing better teams is silly. their schedule this year looks comparable to last year in from start to finish. In both years their regular season schedule has them play 5 teams before OU and 6 after. When comparing those The Big 12 schedule start to finish is not much easier than the SEC. The biggest difference is Georgia which is absolutely harder than anything is the big 12 but the rest of the SEC schedule is way easier by comparison. OU is on both schedules so that cancels out. Their road games in 24' are Vandy, Arkansas and TAMU with a first year coach compared to 23' with Baylor, Houston, TCU, and Iowa St. Their home games in 24' are Mississippi St, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky with another first year coach while their 23' home games brought is KU, BYU, K-State, Texas Tech. While its harder to go undefeated in the SEC schedule I think the SEC schedule has some very bad teams and a shorter schedule and that really simplifies the SEC schedule. Just a reminder Texas beat K-state in overtime at home by 4. Vegas would tell us that if that game had been played in Manhattan Texas would have lost and finished in a three way tie for 1st in the Big 12 with OU and Oklahoma St. relying on a tiebreaker to determine their fate

[@290TrafficCone]

If if if, if you had a brain you’d sum up those simple thoughts with a shorter comment. Texas lives in your head rent free year round apparently 😂 say you are obsessed without saying it 😂 don’t even mention bankrupt-u in the same sentence with Texas you troglodyte.

[@maharaja1352]

😂UT won that Kstate game with a backup QB who was on pace to blow them out but he folded a bit when they begun pressuring him. Which is a testament to QB depth. So if Ewers would’ve played then we probably win by 30. But that’s would’ve and I don’t like to talk about that or if’s for that matter. The schedule looks the same? So 11 wins then? That’s what you’re saying😂? Tie breaker? Dude oU lost to teams we blew out and struggled with others who were in the bottom 6 of the conference. C’mon now.

[@davidboniface858]

Best seasons in the CFP era are 2017, 2021, 2023

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

How can you not include 2019, I mean so many huge games, it was a 14 week regular season and your team won the whole thing. Way better than 2021 and especially last year when too many good teams got snubbed

[@davidboniface858]

@@RadicallyOptimistic I didn't care for anything outside of LSU in 2019

[@johnlee7085]

Psu could definitely be one of the teams in the b1g ccg because of their schedule. tOSU is the only top team they play. Coach Ks O has been explosive so they could have a “fluke” upset. Not sure who the other team to keep tOSU and Oregon out of the ccg would be.

[@Gopwarhorse]

In Winston - Salem, NC

[@kescoto2867]

FSU is better academically and athletically than many of the BIG10s newest members - makes little sense to me

[@Gringo-Billy]

Just Oregon lol

[@nometergreen427]

Just cope. The ACC is fine. Why are yall begging to leave and be a doormat elsewhere?

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

Academically yes but Oregon would’ve shredded FSU last year even with Travis. Oregon and Michigan were the best eye test teams all year. It should’ve been Oregon or OSU fighting against Bama instead of FSU. UGA should’ve had Texas spot

[@evandropdhimoff2252]

@@RadicallyOptimisticdo u remember everyone saying that oregon was gonna blow out washington in the pac 12 championship, lol

[@Herb..StateOfGeorgiaOwnsFSU]

Type through it little buddy. Type through the pain. 😂😂😂

[@jonathantr3394]

Texas is going to Atlanta, but they’re playing a rematch against Florida

[@SteveKilgore27]

Is it just me, or is Josh always talking about Miami? For a team that hasn’t done anything of note in decades, he seems to talk about them almost every other episode. Like even at SEC media days, he can’t stop talking about Miami. We get it Josh, you think they’re on the up and up. How about we hold off on discussing them literally every 2 or 3 episodes until they yknow, make the playoffs. Not sure they’ll even be able to do it in a 12 team playoff. And I’m not complaining that he talks about them occasionally, but talking about them THIS often is just annoying. Like when was the last time Josh talked about some smaller P4 programs like Purdue, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Cincinnati… all of those teams have the same odds of winning a natty in the next couple of seasons as Miami. And no, I don’t care if Miami is +2,000 and those teams are +25,000… for all intents and purposes, Miami has no chance anytime soon.

[@davidjohns4223]

I don’t think 10 wins gets an ACC University into a 12 team playoff unless they are conference champions. That’s any ACC School! GBO!!!

[@garypaulmesina8691]

Miami go 11-1 beating UF and UF with that schedule going 8-4 in the season will get Miami in even if they are runner up in the ACC. Them getting in will depend on UF.

[@JoshuaCecil931]

Horns down

[@thelifeofdustinandallison]

Go Dawgs! Sic Em!

[@PapaVickers]

Sark reminds me greatly of a Phoenix (after the ashes...)

[@OrlandoArreola-l8r]

If you have tu fatigue, start by saying Oklahoma and Texas not Texas and Oklahoma. It’s the little things that lots of media know they are doing on purpose

[@johnlee7085]

“Texas sucks” doesn’t necessarily refer to their performance on the field. I saw a news blip the other day about a HOF player who was also a registered sex offender. His off the field performance apparently differed from his on the field performance. Probably more similarly is FSU. They have won plenty of games on the field but apparently they don’t play well with others off the field.

[@TheFlyingEngle]

I am not used to the black shirt

[@Gopwarhorse]

Academy is not shy on texts

[@Arkbuck]

FSU to the big ten. This made me more convinced now then ever

[@IndianPassPirate]

Oh for the days of the SWC…

[@michaelbyrne8238]

Athletic department profit sharing with aerospace engineering faculty studying hypersonic transportation to make cross country travel easier.

[@H0kie]

What I don’t hear many people talking about is how the ratings will be impacted by the additional losses incurred by consolidating these teams. A national audience will watch a top 10 Alabama play a top 10 FSU, but who will tune in when one or both of them have 3+ losses

[@wdsmkc]

That is actually why you stockpile mega brands. Pull in teams that will get more national eyeballs in a losing season than someone like Virginia will get in a 10 win season. And the deal with programs like FSU is... they will have ups and downs like anyone else, but there is ALWAYS the commitment to get back up. Meanwhile, you can give UVA all the resources in the world, and they'll just always be UVA. That's why (if they were smart) the SEC would target Virginia Tech if they were to expand into Virginia. Let the Big 10 grab a UVA team absolutely no one cares about and pat themselves on the back for how academically superior they are. I'm still just baffled by the academics thing. I've been to about 350 major college football games. I've never seen anyone working on the cure for cancer in the stands. These are athletic conferences, not lecture halls.

[@davidjohns4223]

Sark has done a good/very good job so far. I don’t think I would swap Coach Hype for him but I imagine there might be 20-25 programs that wouldn’t. The rest would do it in a heartbeat. If he wins a Natty or two then he hits elite status. I’m not sure winning the Big-12 elevates to elite status. Just making the playoffs doesn’t elevate to elite status. That goes for Coach Hype as well. I know my son (an SC fan) would swap out Beamer in an instant. GBO!!!

[@davidjohns4223]

Bold take: the SEC Title game will be Vandy vs SC. I’d actually put $10 on that if I still gambled . That’s probably a reason why I don’t gamble anymore. GBO!!! Can you imagine the odds? A $10 bet to pad a retirement account!

[@JoshWJ]

What if Iowa has the best defense and goes 11-1 and holds OSU to 21 points. Look at the schedule and returners

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

Well OSU doesnt have much of an offense. Iowa vs OSU will be like Michigan vs Iowa last year

[@Arkbuck]

⁠@@RadicallyOptimistic osu doesn’t have that much of an offense? Did you really say that ?

[@brucelyonholt2001]

In AUBURN

[@marcusjones5287]

I think Sark has done a great job of turning Texas around. However, don't buy into the hype. Texas had one good year, just like his predecessor. They are not in the same tier as Alabama and Georgia; at least not yet. They are not going to come to the SEC and take over, in spite of what the talking heads in the media think. With their weak schedule, they will likely make the playoffs this year. But, until they win two to three SEC championships and NC's, they are still a tier two program.

[@henrybeltrami6589]

I laughed so much harder after he said stop laughing about Florida being top 15

[@swaffy35]

@LateKickwithJoshPate, you say Strak is second to none, but I question that. Lane Kiffen, Kalen DeBoer, Brain Kelly, Sherrone Moore, Ryan Day, Mike Norvell? He stark really better than all those guy's or is in maybe the top 10%?

[@greenwithenvee2337]

He said “as an offensive mind”

[@swaffy35]

@@greenwithenvee2337 Those guy's I listed are all offensive coach's with I think a better or as good offensive mind

[@greenwithenvee2337]

@@swaffy35 why the hell is Ryan Day on that list 😂 Most of those guys don’t have the record of success Sark does as an OC either.

[@chixjoseph]

LSU fans just want to win an opener then they’ll start feeling better

[@NOLES-wm3ly]

The purpose of the lawsuit was to piss espN off. We’re still 😡 Here’s McMurphy’s Sherlock Holmes Girl Scout badge🧐

[@allenbonner9194]

Street pizza...lol

[@Field_Marshall]

BigTen changed your conference name to big18. Bunch slow pokes conference

[@HawgWyldFishing]

It really is wild to hear Saban asking questions to the guys in front of the cameras.

[@HB-tf5mv]

Show looks better in Dallas, than it does high atop Nashville***. Apologies, apologies 😆

[@christopherjefferson3561]

Nashville not Knoxville

[@jansonroberts2616]

Knoxville? I would have to agree but the show hasn’t been to Knoxville that I’m aware of. It’s primarily done in beautiful downtown Nashville to which Dallas would only be a shallow imitation.

[@N8TheGreatG]

If Texas or Oklahoma make to the Sec championship game it will just show how overrated the sec really is! If both make it I will die laughing 😂

[@marcusjones5287]

When was the last time Texas and Oklahoma played each other in the Big 12 championship game? What makes you think they are going to do any better in the SEC?

[@1185AspAve]

​@@marcusjones52872018 TX won the RRR & OU won the B12 CCG.

[@N8TheGreatG]

@@marcusjones5287 I think you have reading issues! I said it would be funny if that happened not that it will happen.

[@maharaja1352]

@@marcusjones52872018

[@jansonroberts2616]

There’s a reason those two schools were approved for membership. Mizzou has done it twice, why not OU or UTx? Opinions vary apparently.

[@JwadeProductions7]

FSU learning that being a cry baby isn’t always the best thing.

[@DJ7mph]

Big 12 should open their arms to FSU and Clemson. The quality of league rises substantially. I know the suits don't care about that.

[@Sooner_Spy]

If the Big 12 had the money to bring in FSU & Clemson they never would have lost Oklahoma & Texas! There's no way FSU & Clemson end up in the Big 12 - PERIOD!

[@WestDesertMan]

@@Sooner_Spy This is just your opinion and speculation, putting "period" in all caps doesn't change that. When Texas and OU left, Yormark wasn't the commissioner. OU & Texas weren't just frustrated with the money, but also some of the decisions made by the BIG12 that affected them. Additionally, the BIG12 now is exploring revenue options that they weren't before.

[@Sooner_Spy]

@@WestDesertMan . . . Actually, when the rational person looks at it, it's simple COMMON SENSE!

[@WestDesertMan]

@@Sooner_Spy In what way?

[@glitch-kx9pe]

Carolina plays 7 of the top 20 odds teams and doesn't play Tennessee or Georgia. The schedule is actually not as difficult as it normally is.

[@Messenger1.0]

First comment. BOOMER!!!

[@saucehossjosh7272]

Sooner!

[@cooperallen200]

Sooner!!

[@jackshaftoe1715]

DON'T DO IT JOSH ! Back away from the Cristobal ! 😜

[@spicyleonardoii4289]

the first half of this episode was fluent yapping and gum flapping. nothing important or interesting said

[@freeurself3659]

Yoooooooooo

[@user-wg6ui9vw1n]

Texas coach is a drunk and has never won more than 10 games more than once in his career

[@greenwithenvee2337]

He must have beaten your team to make you this mad 😂

[@keynojuan]

The top 4 in the B10 is Michigan, Ohio, Oregon, and Penn State. Iowa only plays one, Ohio state, Penn State doesn’t play 2 (Oregon or Michigan), Michigan could be great and plays both Oregon and Ohio State, and Rutgers doesn’t play any of the top 4.

[@ragmanintx]

UT-AUSTIN has the most annoying fan base in America. 😒

[@Arkbuck]

More than bama? No way!!!!!

[@shawnkurtz4424]

​@@Arkbuckdude Texas fans are the Dallas Cowboys of college. Absolutely they are.

[@greenwithenvee2337]

@@shawnkurtz4424 Oklahoma fans are ten times worse.

[@SatansShart]

Several reliable sources have told me Michigan will be ranked #1 in the polls by the start of the season

[@marcusjones5287]

Are these the same reliable sources that offered to sell you the Golden Gate Bridge in Washington D.C.?

[@SatansShart]

Can’t reveal all my sources, but a few are my nephew David, the new gal in accounting, GoBlueBallin’ Podcast, ConnorS_123, Bo Schembechler’s ghost, and my magic 8-ball

[@andywoods7935]

FSU is a better football program in the modern era than any BIG school

[@1mgofepinephrine120]

😂😂

[@ninefingerjack]

So much better they had to make their own banner and claim they did something...

[@andywoods7935]

@@1mgofepinephrine1203x national champs since 1993. More than OSU or Michigan.

[@andywoods7935]

@@ninefingerjacklol 3 nattys. That’s 1 more than OSU and twice as many as Michigan

[@treyabbey6477]

​​@@andywoods7935Michigan has 2 natty's during your era

[@calebjosephcountry]

Brother, you gotta get a better mic

[@danielmathis5410]

If Sark was black hed had never gotten another big school hc job

[@davidboniface858]

Best seasons in the CFP era are 2017, 2021, 2023