25.000 EUR Gearbox Mod?! DCT Lotus Exige Cup 460 by KomoTec! // Nürburgring

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Misha Charoudin

Misha Charoudin

Күн бұрын

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@RobinSchmitterer
@RobinSchmitterer 4 ай бұрын
The e36 was really fast 😂
@upbeatmantis86
@upbeatmantis86 4 ай бұрын
Aint just a e36, looks like a fully prepped race car by the looks of it
@VxO4fame
@VxO4fame 4 ай бұрын
@@upbeatmantis86 And what do you think the lotus was? 🤣
@alexrex20
@alexrex20 4 ай бұрын
@@VxO4fame a street car?
@BruceLimozaine-c4q
@BruceLimozaine-c4q 4 ай бұрын
What E36?...lol
@ChelseaMin
@ChelseaMin 4 ай бұрын
Gay
@grand_master_glass
@grand_master_glass 4 ай бұрын
11:50 lmfaoooo that awkward silence after Misha said his DCT modification wasn't necessary... OUCH
@pushies5
@pushies5 4 ай бұрын
some things aren't supposed to be mentioned, even if it was true
@LeDechaine
@LeDechaine 4 ай бұрын
I mean, after it bogged down at 4:40, and failed to up-shift at 9:15, I don't think it's worth 20K isn't it...
@MozzarellaBasket
@MozzarellaBasket 4 ай бұрын
@@LeDechaine Yeah for the price of a brand new car or serious ringtool it should work very well. But it seems to react slow to inputs and sometimes doesn't react at all. Perhaps it can be improved but showing a 25k product on a car that seems to not be dialed in regarding suspension either seems sloppy. Not a good showing.
@LawrenceTimme
@LawrenceTimme 3 ай бұрын
It seems to be shifting pretty slow. Id expect this kind of speed from a zf auto not a dct
@ChadCarney-hu3du
@ChadCarney-hu3du 3 ай бұрын
Putting an automatic in a lotus, let alone spending 25k to do it is just insane
@shaunmccormack6980
@shaunmccormack6980 4 ай бұрын
Misha thinking WTF, we should be killing that E36???!!!
@stoneeh
@stoneeh 4 ай бұрын
That step out on Schwedenkreuz despite the aero and the tires.. 😬
@szymonpason8327
@szymonpason8327 4 ай бұрын
some cross-wind or what? 🤔
@shekk0r
@shekk0r 4 ай бұрын
@@szymonpason8327 No, he steered to the left a bit while going over the bump; bad idea with nervous cars.
@stoneeh
@stoneeh 4 ай бұрын
@@shekk0r I believe that was after the fact, to correct the breakout. Well, I didn't want to say too much, but since others in the comment section seem to have realized it as well: this car's suspension and/or suspension setup is crap, and outright dangerous. If you have (warm) Semis on, lots of aero, aren't even doing that high a speed over the bump (even my 190hp Corrado hit 220 km/h there), if the car gets unstable that's just a sign that something is very wrong.
@Shady97342
@Shady97342 4 ай бұрын
4:31 code brown!
@-BuddyGuy
@-BuddyGuy 4 ай бұрын
Seems like suspension setup (like mismatched spring rates or dampers a little too soft) and/or unstable aero when the nose lifts
@flipptyfloppy2817
@flipptyfloppy2817 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂🤣
@Veee6
@Veee6 4 ай бұрын
Slow cornering speeds for that car imo
@XxXDOMINIONXxX
@XxXDOMINIONXxX 4 ай бұрын
very slow. and extremely unstable at high speed under braking. This thing is dangerous actually
@coolguy_2997
@coolguy_2997 4 ай бұрын
205 tires at the front, should’ve been 235 at least
@alextasarov1341
@alextasarov1341 4 ай бұрын
@@coolguy_2997only 205!? I missed that. That’s like an economy car tire lol
@erikjakan1
@erikjakan1 4 ай бұрын
My friend has an identical car with DCT, it is as confidenceinspiring as a Piaggio Vespa. Horrible to drive on nurburgring.
@bertkreft9689
@bertkreft9689 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps the turbo characteristic also makes it a little harder to drive?
@SeanSer
@SeanSer 4 ай бұрын
You became real cautious after the back went very loose at schwedenkreuz 💀😅
@NytrogenLegend
@NytrogenLegend 4 ай бұрын
That E36 was zoomin !!
@Memflix
@Memflix 4 ай бұрын
classic example of how tuning does not always improve a car, the aspect that made the Exige a myth is the agility and road holding with fabulous cornering speed, all gone😅
@TranceFur
@TranceFur 4 ай бұрын
This gives me the impression that Komo-Tec just slapped parts on an Exige without properly tuning any of them. Even down to the digital gauge cluster. It should not be configured to obscure the entire screen with a warning when the coolant temp is only 100°C…
@davegarthwaite7493
@davegarthwaite7493 4 ай бұрын
WOW....with the greatest of respect, your comments could not be further from reality. We installed the Komo-Tec IDS gear box into our Exige 430 Cup two years ago, and at the same time added the KT piston and Rods resulting in 500HP and 530 nm. The install is like a factory install on my car, the engine mapping and gear box mapping where great from the get go, they clearly had a lot of development and i mean a lot!!l. We also had that same AIM cluster and the Coding by KT was very very good. But like all AIM products they can very very easily be updated by the End user, There is a high possibility that the cluster has been updated since install. Regarding gear ratio's we think they are truly great, on circuit they are an absolute peach. When we first installed the kit we did some performance testing and recorded a 0-100km time of 2.94 seconds. Komo-Tec are a very very well respected tuner in Lotus circle and the development is certainly there, The video's Ive seen do NOT do the conversions Justice
@bobl78
@bobl78 4 ай бұрын
it was 120 °C
@fiestaria
@fiestaria 4 ай бұрын
I am a v6 cup owner but have to say, this was absolutely terrible. First of all the car was all over the place, not confidence inspiring - perhaps too stiff for the ring? or geo totally off? Then the DCT - if i paid 25k to get this, id slap it back at komotec's face. Ratios and mapping completely all over - you can see misha struggling and the guy has driven 100s of cars with auto boxes.
@sangerzonnvolt6712
@sangerzonnvolt6712 4 ай бұрын
i feel like the downshifts upset the car. Does it need throttle blips on downshift?
@ChristopherofEngland
@ChristopherofEngland 4 ай бұрын
So who's fault is it
@SimplySteel
@SimplySteel 4 ай бұрын
I definitely though the ratio was not for the ring
@ltwlof4967
@ltwlof4967 4 ай бұрын
the noticable delay in shifting and the mismash ratios were a joke, on paper sounds like a good idea but in practice that would be a refund
@mwpaus
@mwpaus 3 ай бұрын
I don't understand how its 25k. The parts cost would be about 1/3rd that, and it's not as if KomoTec have added any extra special sauce (if anything, the opposite).
@Wing387
@Wing387 4 ай бұрын
The seating position is so low that it looks like the car is being driven from one of those video game bumper camera perspectives, love it
@TheGoose98
@TheGoose98 4 ай бұрын
You are driving some really interesting cars lately. Amazing content! Keep up the good work👌🏻
@mhigham1
@mhigham1 4 ай бұрын
Dude was wheeling that M3. Love when Misha gets paired up with a similar speed car after carousel on these laps.
@StartYourEngine
@StartYourEngine 4 ай бұрын
Car's setup seems a bit off...
@stoneeh
@stoneeh 4 ай бұрын
Normally Öhlins are known for a good compromise between handling and compliance. This car is the exact opposite.
@StartYourEngine
@StartYourEngine 4 ай бұрын
@@stoneeh If I recall correctly, Exige 360 Cup could be ordered with optionnal Öhlins TTX. So I assume this 360 got the TTX which are fantastics if tweaked right. The whole setup of the car, from tires, dampers, swaybars to alignment seems good for safe spirited driving on the road at best. But too soft and understeery for track duty with Misha onboard. Really looks like a scary drive... On a previous video with an Exige 380 Sport, someone commented he would lend his sorted out 420 Final Edition. Don't know if that will ever happened... Hope Misha will finally drive a razorsharp Exige V6 😁
@stoneeh
@stoneeh 4 ай бұрын
@@StartYourEngine seems to me the suspension is probably totally screwed down, which is indicated by it being unable to take the Caroussel, and is just the #1 newbie mistake - "lower is always better". This removes all the suspension travel, which is what the suspension needs to work. Maybe compression vs. rebound is also off.
@iknowit3705
@iknowit3705 4 ай бұрын
205er an der Vorderachse und 265er an der Hinterachse. Alleine das ist irre.
@microfx
@microfx 4 ай бұрын
9:00 "What mods are in this BMW? I need that..."
@mohammedalabdullah3702
@mohammedalabdullah3702 4 ай бұрын
Good driver that the mod.
@ChelseaMin
@ChelseaMin 4 ай бұрын
Shit poop
@thangavijayraj
@thangavijayraj 3 ай бұрын
Yes...
@thangavijayraj
@thangavijayraj 3 ай бұрын
Misha is driving pleasant...so the bmw going ahead 😂
@scoobysean555
@scoobysean555 4 ай бұрын
Content is never ending 👌 amazing ❤
@ivandoe33
@ivandoe33 4 ай бұрын
gear ratios, especially when shifting from 3rd to 4th seems a bit... not ideal.
@JrgsGrg
@JrgsGrg 4 ай бұрын
I think that first and second are too short. And yes after 3rd all are too long. Edit. Ok, im wrong. It has quite a lot of torque and redline already at 7k. But still first and second are quite short.
@THESHADOW97139
@THESHADOW97139 4 ай бұрын
Edit : not with more power
@HomeBuiltEvora
@HomeBuiltEvora 4 ай бұрын
The DQ250 has about 50 (exaggerating) different gear sets. This does not seem like the ideal set (GTI or Quattro gears). Misha is short shifting a LOT as well.
@JrgsGrg
@JrgsGrg 4 ай бұрын
@@HomeBuiltEvora okay, if it is a dsg tranny then I understand why the gearing is a street car like.
@APtechRacing
@APtechRacing 4 ай бұрын
Non si guida così un motore con il compressore 😅
@rotary_64
@rotary_64 4 ай бұрын
that white e36 was a pleasure to watch!
@edwiener
@edwiener 4 ай бұрын
You can see how disappointed misha was when he was thinking what he should say lol
@DCAKAJ
@DCAKAJ 4 ай бұрын
l literally just watched the previous part from 3 years ago, amazing upload Misha
@gouldnj
@gouldnj 4 ай бұрын
That thing is such a low, little missile that the front window cam looks like it’s on the splitter! Great lap opar. Edit-that pinky shifting is hilarious!
@SV-lp4oy
@SV-lp4oy 4 ай бұрын
Nice E36.
@Lotuselise111SR
@Lotuselise111SR 4 ай бұрын
This is probably an EXIGE 360 with the standard setup and the standard Öhlins from the factory. Komotec certainly made the engine and gearbox, but the setup is probably not made for the Nordschleife (by Komotec) I drove the DCT gearbox this year at Spa. It's wonderful to drive, does exactly what it's supposed to do, and very quick. The best upgrade you can give an EX 460, if you like the paddle shift. If you prefer manual, then stick with manual. That's also what Misha says: he didn't like the 992 GT3 with PDK either, he likes it pure. So: everyone as they like it!
@marcussydnor1907
@marcussydnor1907 4 ай бұрын
I enjoy how quickly Misha identifies "vehicle weaknesses" as he drives the snot out of these great cars.
@WickedTRX
@WickedTRX 3 ай бұрын
You can use a MaxxECU to control the engine and a VW DSG for a fraction of the the 20 ou 25 grand. Great driveability, awesome traction control, easy integration with BMW ABS / DSC Module! AIM Dash setup to 10K triggers me
@MiToHub
@MiToHub 4 ай бұрын
It's funny to see how Misha smiled the whole lap in the Giulia Q, but this lap I haven't seen him smile even once...
@georgektistis2851
@georgektistis2851 4 ай бұрын
The gearbox costs more money than the E36 and the BMW owner had more fun. I don't know man with all this money he could definitely had made this lotus track killer but he choose the gearbox.everything about decisions
@vinzvega5614
@vinzvega5614 4 ай бұрын
lets say that much: misha was really gentle on the resumé :)
@ronjatter
@ronjatter 4 ай бұрын
The acceleration doesnt seem as brutal as i was expecting for nearly 500bhp in 1100kg
@marvinvisser5039
@marvinvisser5039 4 ай бұрын
Not at all indeed. Does only 250kmh into Schwedenkreuz. And seeing the wobble it it’s not so much because of downforce. This is closer to 350hp
@StartYourEngine
@StartYourEngine 4 ай бұрын
@@ronjatter A supercharger required about 10% of the output power (and torque) to function. If you want to have a better idea of the power, remove 46 from 460 (so 414) to get an equivalent of the power at the crank if the engine was a naturally aspirated one. Weight is closer to 1200 kg than 1100. The Cx of the car isn't really efficient from factory. Even worse with those aero mods. So for a 1200 kg and 416 HP car with two big boys in it, speed and acceleration are coherents.
@DaEVOthefreak
@DaEVOthefreak 4 ай бұрын
@@StartYourEngine thats BS! The Power measurment is the real one! So you have to put 46 + 460= 510 (without the supercharger-crank stealing Power) ! So the Engine with a Supercharger is stressed with that amount of HP more, than the output on the meassurement or dyno! Nevertheless, a Exige puts mostly less HP, caused by high temperatures, or other things, or just the numbers are wrong. It exist many Exige Vids, where you can see, that the car isn't capable enough out of the box, or without an amount of Setup- and stuff input.
@StartYourEngine
@StartYourEngine 4 ай бұрын
@@DaEVOthefreak The power announced by Komotec for EX460 kit is about 460 HP at the crank. Not at the wheels. In that second case, you are right, you will have to add the power loss from the crank to the wheels due to the transmission and the supercharger. During a dyno run, power is measured at the wheels during acceleration. Then, the dyno measured how much braking power is generated at the wheels by the gearbox+transmission+supercharger while decelerating. Then you have to add this power value to the power at the wheels in order to get the crank power result. Hope that helps.
@DaEVOthefreak
@DaEVOthefreak 4 ай бұрын
@@StartYourEngine Im European, of course im talking about Engine HP 😉 There was no comment about RealWheel-HP. If Komotec anounced the Power at crank, thats include the minus from the Charger!
@kentbeitel9966
@kentbeitel9966 4 ай бұрын
This thing looks so cool! I bet it drives amazing, that whine... 🤤It also sounds really cool. What a dope idea to dct swap it.
@dgo9121
@dgo9121 2 ай бұрын
For those wondering this running a VW/Audi DSG trans. komotec does not manufacture the actual transmission, they just sell a bolt on package including the transmission.
@Dennis.235
@Dennis.235 2 ай бұрын
The E36 chasing was the best part he waited for you on purpose just to race you
@leopard2109
@leopard2109 4 ай бұрын
Not that fast for these expensive mods …
@THESHADOW97139
@THESHADOW97139 4 ай бұрын
The original transmission is a crime compared to this
@DzeiEidz
@DzeiEidz 4 ай бұрын
Well, it's not especially powerful car. But it weighs basically nothing and probably handles pretty great.
@yasuke8687
@yasuke8687 4 ай бұрын
You are lying the perfomance is actually impressive.
@alextasarov1341
@alextasarov1341 4 ай бұрын
It looked like 300hp not 460 lol especially in a car that light
@WeAreDriversCar
@WeAreDriversCar 4 ай бұрын
thats an Exige thing, its difficult to get these realy fast
@sHOT0207
@sHOT0207 4 ай бұрын
White E36 is great!)
@Lagguage
@Lagguage 4 ай бұрын
It was a fighting one..car behaved nervous like hell
@lexburen5932
@lexburen5932 4 ай бұрын
That white E36 shows what cornering is about 🥳😍
@xguboekoberav1980
@xguboekoberav1980 4 ай бұрын
DCT on that car has great potential so it seems, gear ratios could be better for the circumstances. And expensive ‘mod’ for the advantage you could gain imo. And what’s with that nervous front end under braking? Tire pressures/temperatures? Nice trackcar all in all, pretty fun & fast.. 👍
@1kontrabida
@1kontrabida 4 ай бұрын
Damn props to Komotec for building a track weapon. One of the few cars that i didnt see the limit like give Misha more seat time and dial it in and this car will hit the 300kmp easily.
@albertmarin2501
@albertmarin2501 4 ай бұрын
Really bad idea to go for an automatic. It was perfect already in manual. I feel sorry fot Misha who tryied to be nice on the owner 😂
@1Link4Life
@1Link4Life 4 ай бұрын
I agree that was a step in the wrong direction converting to auto so sad ...
@esaedvik
@esaedvik 4 ай бұрын
It's not an auto though?
@ChadCarney-hu3du
@ChadCarney-hu3du 3 ай бұрын
​@@esaedvikDCT is auto.
@RSnowin
@RSnowin 4 ай бұрын
Same E36-Driver, that didnt let cars pass in the 690hp-M4-Video. Hes quick though
@cmcclo1
@cmcclo1 4 ай бұрын
Misha you flipped the rear view camera! Thank you!!
@Drewpost19
@Drewpost19 Ай бұрын
You could tell that just ate him up when that white car passed him. 😂
@jamesS1OWO
@jamesS1OWO 4 ай бұрын
Water temp at 100 deg isn’t to high I would up that to about 105deg. I was more worried about the oil temp at 120!
@dutchNFSGaming
@dutchNFSGaming 4 ай бұрын
Oil temp 120 is alright.
@aaryeshg.6526
@aaryeshg.6526 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't seem fast but maybe it's the gap in gear ratios. The DCT shifts gears quick as usual but the response to the paddle shift is random, sometimes slow, other times fast. The double downshifts on braking are slow too.... The suspension setup is a bit soft for high speed stability and ride height too low for carrousel. The gauge cluster layout is awkward, rev counter is too big for the redline of the engine. And temp warning occupying the whole screen. This car could be better with change of gear ratios and better tune for suspension. It needs closer gear ratios which Lotus typically put in manual transmissions and change the final drive also. The engine itself is alright.
@chris89505
@chris89505 4 ай бұрын
There’s nothing like a proper manual!!
@1Link4Life
@1Link4Life 4 ай бұрын
💯
@eskania
@eskania 4 ай бұрын
The driver of the E36 is amazing fast
@Zenchan01
@Zenchan01 4 ай бұрын
Les pilotes de bmw me régalent toujours 😂. C'est clairement les conducteurs qui cherchent tout le temps la bagarre 🤣
@Eltellado
@Eltellado 4 ай бұрын
Misha looks scared. One of his worst drivings i Never seen
@sighheinrich
@sighheinrich 4 ай бұрын
MIghty Car Mods also had one of these Lotuses and actually sold it. They have track videos and he seemed to never gain the trust of the car either.
@kantina4765
@kantina4765 4 ай бұрын
@@sighheinrich hes driven plenty of these and he likes them
@b71071
@b71071 4 ай бұрын
​@@sighheinrich these are not noob friendly cars. Mid engined cars - and especially lotus which are more mid rear engined, are tricky to drive, particularly with no power steering and minimal tech. The margin in lap times with Elise/exige between an average driver and a pro are huge.
@haz3004
@haz3004 4 ай бұрын
@@sighheinrich mighty car mods??😂😂 Those guys just build a bunch of cars, but are useless drivers, especially compared to Misha.. nothing wrong with the Lotus. Also that was an s2 Exige with a k20 if I remember correctly? Totally different car and much easier to drive than this, yet they still couldn't even do the car the decency of heel and toe 😂
@zorrokitty5666
@zorrokitty5666 4 ай бұрын
@@b71071this one just sucks more and is more scary. His suspension geo is off and gear ratios are terrible for this. He’s stuck between 3-4. 3rd is too short. Oh and 205’s up front!?!? Makes no sense should be 235
@joshuabarrett7486
@joshuabarrett7486 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely love it! It’s like the perfect Lotus!! ❤️‍🔥🇬🇧💯
@kukackamaster
@kukackamaster 4 ай бұрын
Indicator stalk from any Opel from 1998, love it.
@Joeski77
@Joeski77 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely Brutal little car, I love it 😊
@MrDju004
@MrDju004 3 ай бұрын
Wow, Lotus+v6+compressor+sequential= "the perfect combo" ❤❤
@ChrisLee-UK
@ChrisLee-UK 4 ай бұрын
The white BMW was going balls out lol!
@JdUkGAming
@JdUkGAming 4 ай бұрын
I watch the ad so you get the money
@Tomberculosis-q1i
@Tomberculosis-q1i 4 ай бұрын
Watching the ad doesn't make him money buying the product that's being advertised does.
@dailyyy_
@dailyyy_ 4 ай бұрын
​@@Tomberculosis-q1i no, ads make him money
@GaffaTV
@GaffaTV 4 ай бұрын
​@@Tomberculosis-q1i- They normally work by tracking who clicks the link in the advertisement, and then that's usually only worth a cent or two anyway. You could click the link provided and every advertiser would have to have a unique URL / identifier for that to work, and some don't.
@bigpotato7804
@bigpotato7804 4 ай бұрын
Yes, start buying every single product you see in his videos!
@JdUkGAming
@JdUkGAming 4 ай бұрын
Watching the ad is to much of my time given. Time is the only commodity we have. Money and people come and go.
@fud1376
@fud1376 4 ай бұрын
Bloody hell,I've just come off my Sim...!!..Now after watching this,I've gotta get back on again....Ha!😎
@ΣτέφανοςΚόκκαλης-τ1ν
@ΣτέφανοςΚόκκαλης-τ1ν 4 ай бұрын
A good esp button with rain settings, power levels etc, To the check out basket please For those days. Specs are impressive thought Engine: Supercharged 3.5-liter V6 Power Output: 460 horsepower (hence the name Cup 460) Torque: Approximately 525 Nm Transmission: Dual-clutch DSG (Direct-Shift Gearbox) for rapid gear shifts Weight: Approximately 1,100 kg (depending on configuration) 0-100 km/h: Around 3.2 seconds Top Speed: Over 270 km/h Chassis: Lightweight aluminum bonded chassis Suspension: Adjustable Öhlins dampers Brakes: AP Racing calipers with performance brake discs Aerodynamics: Improved downforce with an enhanced front splitter, rear diffuser, and fixed rear wing
@coolguy_2997
@coolguy_2997 4 ай бұрын
Was this car dyno-ed multiple consecutive runs to claim those power figures as stable? As acceleration-wise taking into consideration the weight it doesn’t look more than 380-400hp or maybe the compressor overheats so quickly that it may show peak power only for a short period of time then the power goes down, and the see in the video that the water temp is too high.
@GTKlopfer
@GTKlopfer 4 ай бұрын
@@coolguy_2997 I've got a previous generation Exige, and the engine management takes back the firing angle to limit power when intake temperature passes certain points. If it works the same way in the V6, engine power will be limited a lot on a hot day. On a single dyno run in optimum conditions I should be around 300hp. In the real world on a warm day I'm more around 220hp.
@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya
@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya 4 ай бұрын
That white beemer!!! 👍😊👊💥
@terrian1679
@terrian1679 4 ай бұрын
click sound is just in background, awesome
@echtzeit2549
@echtzeit2549 4 ай бұрын
Dieser Lotus wurde einfach zu Tode getunt 🤷‍♂ Der e36 hat mit ihm gespielt wie er wollte 👍
@WheelzOH
@WheelzOH 4 ай бұрын
daaaamn that speeds up QUICK
@Gentlemen_london_
@Gentlemen_london_ 4 ай бұрын
What the hell was the E36 Bmw packing under the hood?
@enfantterrible4868
@enfantterrible4868 4 ай бұрын
M52B28 and a really good setup :)
@VictorGarcia-wn5nd
@VictorGarcia-wn5nd 4 ай бұрын
Imposible,mínimo s50 o casi seguro s54
@lexburen5932
@lexburen5932 4 ай бұрын
the E36 came stock with a lot of different engines. most common are the 2.5 2.8 and 3.0. a good setup E36 is not to be underestimated as you can see.
@TheJohn8765
@TheJohn8765 4 ай бұрын
A Saturn 5 engine, apparelntly... She sure got on it.
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh 4 ай бұрын
what does the code E36 stand for
@rogerpayne5336
@rogerpayne5336 4 ай бұрын
Love the v6 supercharged noise ! not sure about DCT - gearing is too short. This 460hp Komotec hit a similar speed as that 280hp Fiat Coupe along the first straight. A lot of drag with the wing I guess.....Still , Big UP ! Misha , proper d.....PS: that e36 is a track car. Proper !!
@RSnowin
@RSnowin 4 ай бұрын
The Fiat reached 190 on the speedo, while the Lotus hit 214 at the start. At Schwedenkreuz it was a bit under 240 vs 249 in the Lotus, which is possibly due to an inaccurate speedo (Fiat). 250 at Schwedenkreuz is not too bad for a tame run in TF with 460 hp and bad aero.
@rogerpayne5336
@rogerpayne5336 4 ай бұрын
@@RSnowin Nope...The Fiat was mph and hit 149 , this Komotec is kph and hit 248 ( Schwedenkreuz straight / / similar !)...The Fiat speedo should be accurate with 280hp. I agree with the rest.
@RSnowin
@RSnowin 4 ай бұрын
@@rogerpayne5336 So exactly as I said - under 240 kph at Schwedenkreuz. 90s Fiat speedos are notorious for being somewhat optimistic by the way. So in the end, it works out with the difference between them as the Fiat was in very good condition and is more aerodynamic
@rogerpayne5336
@rogerpayne5336 4 ай бұрын
@@RSnowin Yes !! you are correct.....I have a FC 20VT also and max speed for a 5 gear at the rev limit is either ( 175-177 mph / 280 kph - 6 gear 186 mph // long gears ) and even stock 220hp one can go off the 160mph speedo. A GPS resolve's speedo error also.
@humpymcsaddles3696
@humpymcsaddles3696 4 ай бұрын
i want Misha to get ahold of a high powered Exige that is properly built for the track.
@2076649
@2076649 3 ай бұрын
What a sweet Exige.
@sergiopereira9546
@sergiopereira9546 4 ай бұрын
i think the main issue with this gearbox is that it doesnt add another gear(s) therefore the in-gear acelaration stays the same so its really only the shifting speed that changes . from the video itself it didnt look much faster than a standard car
@RDSAlphard
@RDSAlphard 4 ай бұрын
As another viewer pointed out, the gear ratio of the DCT is very strange, where the 1-2-3 seems very close & short while 4-5-6 seems long & far apart. I'm wondering if Xshift sequential would fit inside Lotus Exige's 6MT, since I recall that 6MT is same family as GR Yaris unit, and GR Yaris has Xshift sequential. 🤔
@DaEVOthefreak
@DaEVOthefreak 4 ай бұрын
there is a 7 speed seq. komotec offer, as an alternative, since a view years.
@randomguyontheinterweb
@randomguyontheinterweb 4 ай бұрын
Watching this shows how good the aero on the speedster really is.
@iknowit3705
@iknowit3705 4 ай бұрын
Aber diese Exige S hat viel Aero. 😅
@randomguyontheinterweb
@randomguyontheinterweb 4 ай бұрын
​@iknowit3705 guess you didn't notice how light this car got @4:30. He was very cautious driving after that
@stratman9449
@stratman9449 4 ай бұрын
the section where Misha "closed the door" used to be where you started your lap in the (not too distant ) past....
@koengixxer
@koengixxer 4 ай бұрын
25k for DCT is crazy.. take that money and put sequential gearbox on it,it would be crazy!
@vvevvevvvv
@vvevvevvvv 4 ай бұрын
Yep, put a sequential and become deaf. Also, spend even more money rebuilding it every year or so.
@komo-tec
@komo-tec 4 ай бұрын
The idea of ​​the ict was to find the best of both worlds. No manual gearbox but still a gearbox suitable for everyday use. This is not a racing car, therefore no sequential gearbox.
@koengixxer
@koengixxer 4 ай бұрын
@@komo-tec okay..i understand you, but a sequential would be crazy in this car. 😉✌️
@matteoveneziani700
@matteoveneziani700 3 ай бұрын
​@@vvevvevvvv you do not have to rebuild sequential gearbox if you install the right one. Like the kaps from komotec. I hace a exige 380cup with sequential kaps installed, never had any problems in many years of using.
@martinberazategui
@martinberazategui 4 ай бұрын
water high...Water High...WATER HIGH!!!
@iainstewart6200
@iainstewart6200 4 ай бұрын
Props to the e36 driver
@pietro160775
@pietro160775 3 ай бұрын
Love lotus👊🏼💪🏼
@zinzander2978
@zinzander2978 4 ай бұрын
The guys face when he get overtaken by the BMW😅, then Misha mildly rips on the gearbox mod
@janneshildebrandt1
@janneshildebrandt1 4 ай бұрын
This car is quite slow in corners, Schwedenkreuz for example was only like 160kmh, which is the same I did with my i30N with 3 people and worn tires. The Lotus should be much faster than that
@Doenercorvette
@Doenercorvette 3 күн бұрын
Even if it didnt perform very well it outperformed my little Elise by far 😂
@TheFaro06
@TheFaro06 4 ай бұрын
NO… Lotus Exige is manual gearbox.
@TheJohn8765
@TheJohn8765 4 ай бұрын
Meh. It would be better with a straight-cut rather than a DCT, in my opinion. Still involving rather than being from the golden-oldies days like most manual people seem to live in. You know, the days that don't actually exist and never did... Trad manuals can suck my cucumber. I want to engage with the track, not the gearbox.
@willruss
@willruss 4 ай бұрын
I believe owning this makes someone at least an honorary member of the more money than brains club
@vwseb007
@vwseb007 2 ай бұрын
The only good thing with that upgrad is that gearbox is now reliable and no more problem with clutch 😂 But better keep manual
@nathankendall3467
@nathankendall3467 4 ай бұрын
Madness!
@VxO4fame
@VxO4fame 4 ай бұрын
When E36 shows you how cornering is done 😂 No doubt the E36 is build, But that Lotus is too.
@TheSlash389
@TheSlash389 4 ай бұрын
almost as fast as an e36 😂
@gulfcitynd
@gulfcitynd 4 ай бұрын
Track car=fun and dct must be a blast
@phantom2k10
@phantom2k10 4 ай бұрын
25k for a f'in dct????????? adonbelivit
@DaEVOthefreak
@DaEVOthefreak 4 ай бұрын
you have to pay for the developementprocess.
@dundukas6
@dundukas6 4 ай бұрын
There's a bit of work to mate it to the 2GR-FE. I would expect at least 20k without knowing the real price.
@onepunchmicky666
@onepunchmicky666 4 ай бұрын
It’s a more unique car so that bumps up the price, I want to put a zf8hp in my Falcon and iv spoke to someone who’s done it and it was 17k by the end of it including other parts to make it fit like aftermarket driveshaft, so gearbox swaps can be expensive 😬
@vanqy.
@vanqy. 4 ай бұрын
theres nothing off the shelf that you can fit into this mid engined rear drive car. so good luck with less than 25k. also a 3,5L with a supercharger takes up a significant space of the engine bay just to give you a rough idea of fitment
@papapetad
@papapetad 4 ай бұрын
Misha lacking confidence big time in this. No doubt still a whole heap of fun for the average driver but it now seems to have lost its quintessential lotus qualities aside from low mass.
@DaEVOthefreak
@DaEVOthefreak 4 ай бұрын
no, thats exactly like the "lotus track quality" is. The car is a nightmare to set up. You have to know what you do and you have to put a lot of time in Aero and Alignment, Tyresize, Tyrecompound, presure, shock settings. The car had a very inefficient Aero from factory, is underpowered and hard to drive. If you want a task, buy a Exige an try to make it fast ;-) But if you achiev this, you are an expert and have a lot of fun!
@papapetad
@papapetad 4 ай бұрын
@@DaEVOthefreak I'm merely going by the countless Elise reviews on this assessment. Drivers seemed to find them easy to drive, chuckable, well behaved etc... I seem to remember Exige reviews to be positive also albeit edgier with the added power. I don't remember any reviews pointing to glaring inherent flaws so I did not expect this one to hold Misha back so much. I have no doubt tuning them is challenging. While far from an expert, I'd expect any car to be challenging to setup correctly. The added challenge from this platform I would attribute to low mass, mid engine layout (in this case a big V6 which is probably even tougher to compensate for compared to the i4) and short wheel base. Obviously, front to rear aero balance is particularly sensitive on such a platform but then I would have thought anyone pouring big resources in one would consult with experienced shops and the community to avoid major f ups. Then again, this sort of feedback gives the owner an opportunity to do more work on setup which is always fun and likely much less costly than the dct swap.
@DaEVOthefreak
@DaEVOthefreak 4 ай бұрын
@@papapetad well, the tuner of this here is the world leading in Exige's! Look at the SportAuto ExigeS Round with Gebhard 11 years ago. A few years ago i was faced with the decision to buy an exige, i test drove a few. On the road it gives you a great, fast, exciting feeling, but is effectively no faster than others. I decided to go for a Caterham on the one hand and a Corvette C6Z06 on the other. And the Corvette outperforms the Exige in all areas and is also suitable for everyday use. The Exige is great, but not great enough
@papapetad
@papapetad 4 ай бұрын
@@DaEVOthefreak Fair enough. I can't argue with picking a zo6. Awesome car 🤩
@daiashthomas
@daiashthomas 4 ай бұрын
Rear view camera is hilarious
@Skyrocket888
@Skyrocket888 3 ай бұрын
8:16 Misha just shit himself after getting overtaken.
@jerusdc
@jerusdc 4 ай бұрын
So awesome.. We got so screwed not being able to have that car in the USA
@bocajuniors55
@bocajuniors55 4 ай бұрын
They always seem to be ubstable at high speeds. This video confirms my thoughts.
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. These are best on twisty roads.
@lapin46
@lapin46 4 ай бұрын
the suspension and geometry are either not set up for such a bumpy high speed track or are not set-up properly at all. The Elise platform is not inheritably unstable at high speed. For the NS, you need plenty suspension travel and not too much compression damping. Without insights into the geo and how it was set-up in regards to wing and splitter, it will be hard to tell.
@iknowit3705
@iknowit3705 4 ай бұрын
Der Hauptfehler ist die Bereifung! An der Hinterachse 265er und an der Vorderachse lächerliche 205er. Ich fahre auf meinem Opel Speedster Turbo 215/235. Damit ist - neben einer gescheiten Einstellung des Fahrwerks - das Untersteuern weg. Diese Exige S hat das Potenzial für mehr, viel mehr.
@TheJohn8765
@TheJohn8765 4 ай бұрын
Yah, the 205s is 10 less than my bone stock work-car Mazda3. Like, what?? Why put such a tiny tire on something with 40% more horsepower than stock (plus other mods, I assume). Very odd choice.
@MarcoF87
@MarcoF87 4 ай бұрын
Excellent lap, what camera/cameraes do you use to film your pov driving ? :)
@MrFeelPower
@MrFeelPower 4 ай бұрын
That car needs more sound.... Straight pipes 👌
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 4 ай бұрын
why does the front end seem kind of unresponsive compared to the steering input?
@iknowit3705
@iknowit3705 4 ай бұрын
Zu schmale Reifen: 205. Dafür hinten 265.
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 4 ай бұрын
@@iknowit3705 the Lotus weight bias is 39:61 very close to 911s most 911s use a 245/305 tire combo so a 205/265 is about the same. I run 315/30r18 square on my Camaro, but I'm not a mid engine car.
@TheJohn8765
@TheJohn8765 4 ай бұрын
@@3rdGenGuy "245/305 tire combo so a 205/265 is about the same.". No, that isn't the same at all. How drunk are you?!
@3rdGenGuy
@3rdGenGuy 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheJohn8765 the ratio is the same. 60mm difference between the front and rear. same as the 245/305 combos 911 use. mid engine and rear engine cars don't need larger front tires because the weight is mostly biased in the rear.
@andigaming1991
@andigaming1991 4 ай бұрын
Like another commentor said, for a Lotus it seems very poor in cornering speed.
@titasvalaitis2144
@titasvalaitis2144 4 ай бұрын
Misha really didn’t push this lotus nearly hard enough but I don’t blame him thing is damn scary
@martinchapman2168
@martinchapman2168 4 ай бұрын
Good video
@sivuyiledumalisile6308
@sivuyiledumalisile6308 4 ай бұрын
I just love these cars .
@J_CART3R
@J_CART3R 4 ай бұрын
is Lotus 2GR engine is different than normal 2GR ? My Toyota Alphard has 2GR same as the Lotus Exige, planning to mount a supercharger to it.
@Car_Tism
@Car_Tism 4 ай бұрын
Daniel Craig got pretty quiet when Misha said the DCT wasn’t a necessary upgrade
@hanskans5655
@hanskans5655 4 ай бұрын
Der Gewinner ist der bmw e36 😂 der wird nicht heiß
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