I have both these guns. The Stoeger is light years ahead of the Taurus. Better ergonomics, better trigger, shots better as well. Just my two cents.
@sgreen3805 Жыл бұрын
I know this is about the G3C vs Stoeger. It’s just gonna be the Taurus for me. That aftermarket support is everything. I have the G2C in 9mm and .40. Regarding the finish- it’s a tool, more specifically a self-defense tool. I love the restrike feature for dry firing. I also love that I can use the same holsters for them. Affordable and reliable- I’ve only ever had issues when it came to specific ammo with the 9mm. I found that out during that break in period at the range. But that’s the point of live fire training. FTR, I am a S&W fan girl. I do believe if you save & have the chance to find an older M&P on sale, that’s the better option. It’s not ammo picky. I normally carry the G2C because if I ever had to use it in a self defense situation, it can be replaced in a few paychecks.
@Wildwestwrangler Жыл бұрын
Lots of fairly high round count reviews out now with the stoeger str9 series. My EDC carry is the str9mc
@azpwnz Жыл бұрын
My gf is looking at a Stoeger Str9c for her first carry gun, mostly because of price (even though I told her I'll buy her whatever she wants). They seem well built, but a cheap finish. I told her I will not spend my money on a Taurus though. After working at a shop and having to send a ton of them back, I'd never let someone I love trust their life to one.
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Fair enough! Respect
@danielbrunner77306 ай бұрын
I have both but the Stoeger is just a special gun at a special price!
@byronh77 Жыл бұрын
Im an advocate for the stoeger str 9c. Love it. Shoot it more accurately than my glock. Most people are unfamiliar with the brand name. But they are great guns for the money. There are not a lot of holster options unfortunately which is the downside. They should follow canik and provide a quality holster from the factory. Also the back strap is extremely aggressive. Use that blue rubber stoeger band if they give it to you but other than that, give them a few years and for the market to catch up. The STR 9C us a great first gun That wontbhurt your pocketbook and is super reliable. Not one single malfunction 1000 rounds in.
@Wildwestwrangler Жыл бұрын
Check out the stoeger str9 mc
@JamesHackett-kv4ki8 ай бұрын
It's the company that owns Beretta and Benneli is what a stoeger is it's a great gun basically identical to a Glock 17 internally
@Oldman6504 ай бұрын
With the growing popularity of the Stoeger pistols, Im certain that aftermarket parts and accessories will become more available.
@brendank3853 Жыл бұрын
Stoeger is a better firearm but Taurus has better aftermarket support and the G3C comes with 3 mags. Depends on what’s important to you!
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Yes agreed! Well said
@brendank3853 Жыл бұрын
@@spnfirearms keep it up, loving the content lately man
@HighStrangeDrifter Жыл бұрын
The G3C’s re-strike feature could be a plus for dry fire training.
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Yes it is but the trigger is different feeling during restrike capability vs live fire but that’s exactly what I use it for! Respect
@Dressed2KillTaye Жыл бұрын
Facts that Trigger Polish up so good for G3 Series guns when you dry fire. You really get the best out the gun when you know the trigger
@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын
@@spnfirearms The restrike does not pull the striker back as far as it does when you get the normal "single action" trigger pull. It's not quite an 1/8" less... but it's definitely enough to weaken the amount of force that the striker uses to strike the primer. It's so much less that I've wondered if the restrike would even work on a G2C/G3C handgun. If the original full power strike didn't fire the gun, then the 2nd weaker strike is probably even less likely to work. Usually if a round don't go off on the first strike, then it will not go off on the 2nd, 3rd or 4th strike. It definitely can happen though. Have seen it in revolvers and double actions though... but it's just less common from what I've seen.
@WarriorSoul357 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people really do enjoy the restrike trigger for practice in dry firing. I had a Walther p99 which also had the restrike trigger. I'm not going to say that it's a *bad* practice. But. It's definitely a different pull than if your striker is cocked. It's longer, and it's heavier. If you are trying to practice working on the trigger break... it can give you bad habits. Which, could lead to down and left POI. Not for all shooters, of course, but those still learning trigger discipline, it could be something they'd have to work through later on. All that said, do I think it's a cool feature? Yeah, kinda. I mean, I was kinda glad that my p99 had it. Just in case.
@Dressed2KillTaye Жыл бұрын
@@WarriorSoul357 i cock it when i practice Dry Fire. I never use Restrike
@matthewlong7073 Жыл бұрын
I accept this as your apology to sig 😅solid video. I have a G2C been great, understand questioning Taurus after their most recent recall. Stoeger is solid think they have a better trigger than glock too out of the box. Looked at one last week, made me scratch my head for the price.
@WarriorSoul357 Жыл бұрын
For new conceal carriers. First and foremost, WELCOME to the society of concealed carry! What Spin was saying, about being conscious about printing. Literally EVERYBODY worries about other people being able to see their gun, when they first start carrying. When I started carrying mine with me, while I was out and about, I felt like everybody was staring at it. (Granted, concealed carry permits weren't publicly available 30 years ago in my state, either!) And I went through that, all over again, when CCW legalized, and I started wearing at the hip. If you want to minimalize your footprint... obviously the gun you choose is going to cause the printing. The clothes that you wear can either exacerbate, or negate some of those signs from the gun. The holster you choose, and the belt you choose, is very important for minimalizing your gun's footprint. Or in Spin's case, he carries in the pocket, so his holsters are designed to help flatten out the shape of the holster, helping to hide the pistol. Once you've gotten used to carrying, you'll start to worry about it less. It comes with time. Unless you live in an area that is not gun friendly, most from that area won't make any kind of deal about, even if they aren't too busy staring at their phone to actually notice you, and notice that you have one. (That's... NOT a joke. Sad fact, too many people are glued to that phone too much of the time.) I will advise tho... keep your situational awareness at 10 when standing in lines. The highest percentage of gun grabs happen in gas stations, convenience stores, and checkout lines. Alter your stance, to keep your arm between somebody else, and your gun. Practice it in the mirror so you can tell what makes you look obvious, and what doesn't. And practice with somebody watching you.
@Wildwestwrangler Жыл бұрын
Best part about living in Texas. If people see your gun and it ain't in your hand they don't care!!!
@Wildwestwrangler Жыл бұрын
You're definitely on point about not being glued to your phone when you're packing in public
@jimchambers7548 Жыл бұрын
I like the guns this channel reviews. Most working men dont spend $1,000 on an edc. Hard to carry a CZ Shadow on a roof or pouring cement😅. And its not feasible, it comes down to reliability, and comfort no matter the price
@mi777ke777 Жыл бұрын
I will never again with Taurus. The Stoeger looks legit. They look awesome too. I'd rather have that P10C, but I'd hit the STR
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Ahah yessir. They just run. They are actual quality.
@brianburton8351 Жыл бұрын
I like the looks of the Taurus, they also take sig p 226 mags
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Fair enough and true! Respect
@B1ackLeo Жыл бұрын
You gotta try the IWI Masada Slim. Trust me on this it's a better substitute for the Canik Mete MC9 (and I love all my other Caniks).
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
It’s on the list as well as the r7 mako! Content will be up soon!
@B1ackLeo Жыл бұрын
@spnfirearms Good stuff man keep up the content
@GB-ew8wc Жыл бұрын
1400 rounds thru my G3C with no failures of any kind.
@Bornno.14 ай бұрын
Wow
@henrypagan3302 Жыл бұрын
That'll be my next 9 ima try the stoeger. I already have the g3c and the 26 great guns💪🏼💯
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
You’ll love it! I’m working with a holster company for them to make an awesome holster for it! I’ll keep everyone updated on it!
@jamesgaller1046 Жыл бұрын
Believe it or not I trust the Taurus more than my nice CZ PO1 urban gray with omega trigger thread barrel with night sights, it’s well broken in and I clean it but every once in awhile it has a hiccup
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Fair enough! Respect!
@rebelyankee491011 ай бұрын
Stoger STR 9 SC takes either the 10 or 13 round mags now. I have one with 1-10 round, and 2-13 round magazines. 😉
@lanelanza32054 ай бұрын
Informative content on 2 comparable, low cost gats. The Stoegy is a Turk Glock copy, so it gets the dub.
@mickeyrenteria Жыл бұрын
I like how you explain things bro
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that man, respect
@mickeyrenteria Жыл бұрын
@@spnfirearms keep up the good work !
@Dressed2KillTaye Жыл бұрын
KelTec P32 & PF9 was the original Micro's
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Those were the original pocket pistols and single stacks, not stack and a half’s!
@Dressed2KillTaye Жыл бұрын
@@spnfirearms FACTS! P365? Or Glock 26? 🤔😎😂😂😂
@tehclefty5317 Жыл бұрын
🤔When I was first getting into firearms. The stoeger normal 9mm was it for me… I stupidly (at the time) went with a pawnshop XDS9 as part of a trade for my AR instead for my first pistol… My OCD bugged me about getting a used pistol when I could’ve got a brand new pistol with the money… I just wasn’t thinking. I have a bad indecision “fxck it get that one!🤷🏻♂️” attitude that I’ve been getting better with… However, that XDS9 with the grip safety helped me become comfortable carrying with 1 in the chamber… If Stoeger has a full size option thats 17+1 capacity I could think about getting one… Nah probably still won’t.. I’m VERY picky about the firearm brands I get nowadays…😬
@connorog7603 Жыл бұрын
U should have gotten the silver slide on the Taurus g3c looks coolers and u don’t gotta worry about the black wearing out on the firearm.. And Taurus has stepped up there game since 2019 they are great great firearms I prefer them over sig all day.
@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын
One thing I forgot to mention is the grip angle. The Stoeger grip angle is much sharper and is a lot like grip angles of other guns that I've heard people complain about. It has the near identical back strap as the Glock 19 and also the identical front grip angle (with finger grooves, which is another big complaint that people have with Glocks). I don't mind the grip angle of Glocks at all... but I do think the G3C fits in my hand better and also points more naturally. I don't have to consciously draw the gun and point it downwards to get a sight picture like with the Glocks. I've never tried a Stoeger myself though... but it really does have a near identical shaped grip as the Glock 19. I also have trouble with Glock 19 grips being too wide... and if I'm not mistaken, the STR-9 has an even thicker grip than most Glocks.
@Wildwestwrangler Жыл бұрын
Nope. Does not sit in the hand anything at all like a Glock. Glock trigger yes, but feels closer to an m&p with finger grooves.
@pro-tekprofessionalservice1531 Жыл бұрын
The manual safety on the G series makes it a no-go. From a training standpoint, most "new" shooters will not train enough to master the "safety sweep" and that safety engages pretty easily.
@blackicekck9family379 Жыл бұрын
The finish matters that much it hurts your confidence with that fire arm that’s wild 5:13
@arorath9170 Жыл бұрын
No kidding on that taurus. Looks like it's been holstered quite a bit. I'm surprised you haven't run into any malfunctions with these budget options but how it holds up on the inside is more important than how it looks on the outside. With these budget options showing more signs of long term and wide spread reliability, it may force other brands to get more competetive with their pricing and drive prices down. Shame there isn't more aftermarket support for them.
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly! They run great so far and they arm Americans for cheap, nothing better than that!
@sig3ldunc4nI Жыл бұрын
Tbh the stoeger’s appearance would have me believe it goes for 100-150$ more than it does (if I didn’t know any better). They have done quite well with this lineup. I honestly wouldn’t mind grabbing up a SC for an extra carry. I have only ever carried Glocks but I could see myself getting a SC and not thinking twice.
@eze008 Жыл бұрын
The re-strike feature is more of a feature that can be appreciated in a gun fight, not at the range. In a gun fight you most likely will not have calm cool collected mind that you have at the range. You will most likely be screaming either internally or externally, pissing in pants, and squeezing the hell out of that trigger. With a glock you are dead in the water till you tap and rack. So. Glock = bang bang bang click click click ... tap and rack bang. Taurus = bang bang bang click bangg bang bang ( tap and rack if that round does not go off second strike)
@bradlaurence5323 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the IWI Masada Slim?
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
No but that and the r7 mako are on the list!
@Wildwestwrangler Жыл бұрын
Check out the stoeger str9 MC. 13+1 in a p365 size package!!!
@spindiamond8 ай бұрын
If you can find the 13 round STR-9MC magazine it fits perfectly in the SC so no need for the pinky gap from the 13 round from the STR-9C.
@obijuan34 ай бұрын
Restrike on the Taurus is good for dry fire laser training :)
@vbvini10 ай бұрын
I started on the g2c . but thinkin abour the m@p shield plus 2
@MrLeram125 ай бұрын
Lose the "right?" Way too many. Thanks for your review.
@NittyGritty420 Жыл бұрын
I would get the stoeger. They have a better track record
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@keylargojoe62 Жыл бұрын
Stoeger all day long!!
@mikelasa5173 Жыл бұрын
I love my g3c and I also never had any issues! Thanks
@@spnfirearms yeah, I saw you answer the other viewer! I always wanted to try the Mako! Looking forward to seeing it! 👊
@gloriamaletta866710 ай бұрын
I have 4 micro compact 10+ round guns one is the Stoeger STR 9mc and l like it so much l'm keeping it never had a G3c but had a G2c 8 or so years ago sold it to buy a Walther P99c AS gen2 9mm never looked back still have the P99c but the G2c was ok can't really say l miss it it was 200 dollars new the Walther P99c was on sale new for 339 wasn't leaving without it
@dylano724211 ай бұрын
I love both stoeger str9 sc, taurus g3c and the iwi masada slim which beats both these but is $400. But for new shooters taurus probably best, as has double strike capability , so can just keep pulling trigger if round doesn't go off. And in training can put in a laser dummy round in the taurus and practice due to the doubke strike capability. If graduate to a better gun the iwi masada slim is probably the best carry gun out there
@spnfirearms11 ай бұрын
Fair enough! Great choices and respect!
@BT2SS8 ай бұрын
“Italy mags” are mecgar. Also, I’m pretty sure the stoeger does not take Glock sights. Can’t confirm, but that’s what I read.
@sleepzsobkfly Жыл бұрын
Going wit the Taurus on this one hands down don’t debate me 😂lol
@paulsecrest94274 ай бұрын
Seen a vid on youtube on the stoeger. Because i seen one for 300 it looked good. But i said let me ser some reveiws first. The vid i seen the trigger broke i think after 300 rounds. Know send it to stog and wait 3 months to get it back. So i decided against the purchase. Now if i can find one for 200 yeah. I own a glock 17 a mnp 40 compact. A rugar p95. A g3c and a g23. And a Taurus 605. Those g2cs and g3cs pistols fired fine right out the box. No break in at all. I fired steel brass and aluminum cased ammo. Good guns for the price. I do have my complaints the finish is crap and on my g3c sometimes when i chamber it with certain hollow points it jams the round between the grip amd the slide. So with cheaper handguns it will have ups and downs. But id rather have a jam than a broken trigger.
@jimchambers7548 Жыл бұрын
If you're defending yourself you're left hand would be extended to block right hand shooting. Hit a dead round you can't tap, rack you just squeeze like a revolver. That's what restikes for
@SB-mw1bg7 ай бұрын
I got a good one for you............Ruger Security 9 compact vs Stoeger STR9 sc. Let's see it! Battle of the budget subcompacts. Same size too.
@rms56544 ай бұрын
As far as texturing, take a small hammer and peen the backstrap of the pistol to blunt the sharpness of the texture. Problem solved.
@dstglizzytwotonez4298 Жыл бұрын
I actually like the G3c’s, just not reliable enough to carry over any of my Smith & Wesson’s or Glocks!
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Agreed 100% great firearms but I still trust other firearms much, much more
@almanji8046 Жыл бұрын
Great starter firearms for beginners cuz. Great choice and great video. Nice work. 💯🙂👊👍👌✌️🙏
@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын
Anytime I've seen the Stoeger the slide finish has always looked flawless. I'm not sure if people just keep better care of them or if it's because they have a good, strong finish... but that's always been a very important thing for me. I'm not sure which one of these I would pick for sure though. Lots of pros and cons between them. I really like that the Stoeger is 15rds and only slightly longer than the G3C... but I really don't like how thick it is. It's noticeably thicker than most double stack Glocks and I just don't get why they would do that.
@NittyGritty420 Жыл бұрын
If you are ever in the market for a quality affordable double barrel definitely get a stoeger. Underrated company that makes amazing firearms for the working man.
@deucedeuce1572 Жыл бұрын
@@NittyGritty420 I forgot they made shotguns. Will have to check them out.
@gk5891 Жыл бұрын
If I only had $200 to buy a carry gun it would be an easy choice. Used S&W M&P40C 1.0...
@NittyGritty420 Жыл бұрын
Good luck finding it for 200. That would be a steal
@gk5891 Жыл бұрын
@@NittyGritty420 They are out there. They just are not pretty. It requires the combo of cosmetically challenged and .40 to make it. Since they are stainless under the Melonite a few weeks bouncing around in a truck tool box doesn't do them that much real harm. A friend just paid $175 for a Shield 1.0 .40 with 1-6 Round and 3-7 round magazines if you didn't mind the scratches. His girlfriend picked up a Charter Arms Lite with the Pink Anodized Frame with bad rub mark on one side for $150. Ugly is good, when it comes to budget.
@NittyGritty420 Жыл бұрын
@@gk5891 wow 175? Really?? Did he buy it from a buddy or did he get it at pawn shop? I wish I could find good deals like that. Best deal I got was 2 years ago I bought WASR 10 for 400 dollars from a buddy of mine. It has all types of wear and tear cosmetically but who cares it’s an AK.
@mopesrus72667 ай бұрын
The Taurus uses the Sig P226 magazines, I really don't know about Stoeger.
@zachaddington5264 Жыл бұрын
My G3c is sexy want to get a laser for it ,I think the full size g3 the barrel is 4 inches I don’t remember . It’s cheap and works Taurus handguns are great think about getting a 605 also
@jerrynkathy7 ай бұрын
Rumor has it that a 605 Executive Grade is coming out this year.
@blackicekck9family379 Жыл бұрын
The problem is the. Taurus is have 2 different reset it is a hammer fire style trigger.
@Ffs00911 Жыл бұрын
got rid of my g3c and i miss her so much. lol proabbly buying another one.
@spindiamond8 ай бұрын
I have the stoeger STR-9SC and the STR-9MC. The MC came with two mags a 11 round and a 13 round. What I don't understand Is the 11 round magazine is the exact same size as the 10 round magazine from the SC. I can use my 11 round and 13 round magazines in my SC from my MC but I'm just like, why Stoeger did you make the SC mag only 10 rounds if clearly you can make that exact same magazine an 11 round.
@thomascrompton77754 ай бұрын
Do you know if stoegar mc9 takes glock sights. Like a better rear sight less snag resistant
@ruger97hunter5 ай бұрын
I can get the str9, str9c, or the str9sc for 149 clams after rebate!
@WxyneHD10 ай бұрын
I was gonna use my last to get a Glock until I found out about the stoeger.
@crabbyturtle1594 Жыл бұрын
Are you planning to pick up the CZ Shadow 2 Compact?
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t but I might! It looks amazing
@jaychong129 ай бұрын
I have both gun and Stoeger has way better finish and looks then g3c.
@a.jennings46648 ай бұрын
Right?
@dakidsbac777 Жыл бұрын
G3c!
@spnfirearms Жыл бұрын
Respect!
@kevincarter716011 ай бұрын
Clone Glock 19 and parts do fit
@thomascrompton77759 ай бұрын
I thought stoegers take sig sights
@Trellmighty223 Жыл бұрын
G3c I believe got less recoil than my 43x and is a 12+1 3 mags trading 43x for 26 soon so I can get bigger mags and less recoil and should conceal better with shorter grip nice vid
@grumpyoldvet23042 ай бұрын
I figured it was just a matter of time before you jumped on the “QC for a Taurus is sketchy” bandwagon. Very disappointed in you brother.
@spnfirearms2 ай бұрын
It’s not a bandwagon. That’s the problem with people today. They don’t accept facts. They don’t accept statistics. They don’t do research. I love my Taurus’s. But also go look at how my gx4 came to me. Look what condition it was. You shouldn’t be hurt from a video my man.
@grumpyoldvet23042 ай бұрын
@@spnfirearms I’m not hurt young man I said I was disappointed. There is a difference. Facts? I do accept facts so don’t go all Tom McDonald on me. I am well aware Taurus had quality issues in the past but how long we going to beat that drum. Didn’t Sig have some issues a while back? I enjoy your channel and it’s good to see a young blood so damn knowledgeable and passionate about firearms. I’ve actually followed your recommendations before. I said what I said out of respect. Don’t get that twisted.
@Darjan_Spasojevic Жыл бұрын
I carried a glock17 edc for 3 months. I switched to a Canik tp9 elite sc. So much more comfortable! I love the G17, just not for conceal carry.
@B1ackLeo Жыл бұрын
Elite SC is my winter carry, gotta love that chunky gyal!
@scott76843 ай бұрын
taurus ts9 beats both badly got mine for 244 mfers lol