Let Down: No Longer The Sleeper Of The Year… Stoeger STR9-MC

[@spnfirearms]

Code: SPN for 10% off Blacksmith Tactical Holsters. My go to is the v2 holster with double discrete carry clips and a wedge. And if you have under a 3.7” barrel, get a wedge!! Respect

[@asdf89sdf]

Sounds like an ammo problem, especially if the gold dots ran flawlessly on a mag dump. Sometimes you get a bad batch of ammo.

[@mattleinberger7220]

Ya, that’s my first thought watching this video…. Bad batch of ammo

[@davidherbst]

The fact that it had several different types of failures, and only with that ammo screams bad batch to me. I’m no expert, but in my experience, a gun that has a problem is likely to have the same type of failure every time. Bad ammo can throw things into this kind of chaos. But, again, I’m just some guy, and SPN has expended a lot more ammo than I have.

[@nathanbrand1]

@@davidherbst Especially because it's a budget ammo option. I've had ammo in that price range choke my Glock 47 due to super low power factor for a batch and the factory recoil spring not able to handle it. I can't repeat it with any other brand

[@answersforlooking9430]

i bought this gun basically after watching your unboxing video on this..... as of now mine runs good..... knock on wood..... either way thank you for being up front and honest about your experience w the gun..... as always thanks for what you do for us spn

[@goofysandal9552]

Fr he stepped up and corrected the record. So many people on yt would just keep pushing it. Respect spn

[@spnfirearms]

No problem man! That’s the point of this channel! I think the guide rod may have broke. It could be from over loaded rounds as I have ran it through its paces with some crazy ammo… but my buddy has one with 2.1k rounds and not a single hiccup. I’ll keep you guys updated! Lemons happen, let’s see how they fix the problem! Respect

[@spnfirearms]

That’s what the channel is for! That’s why I don’t accept money from firearm companies. I need to be completely real and up front with people. I think I got a lemon. I’m pretty sure it’s my guide rod. Like I said tho, my buddy has one that has ran 2.1k rounds in 5 months, not a single issue. We will see how they fix it and I’m sure it’ll run after! Respect

[@joenawf]

You guys know what optic cut out it runs?

[@matthewbaker5359]

If it ran with one type of ammo but not another, it's probably an ammo problem.

[@stevesnvegas9040]

Stop making sense.

[@matthewbaker5359]

@@stevesnvegas9040 🤣🤣🤣

[@NextGenGunner1]

Definitely could be a ammo problem. I’m sure lots of people have something to say about the gun being dirty but personally I want my carry guns to be able to run dirty

[@scottfennell6568]

I get your point but no professional runs their guns filthy dirty i.e. police and military clean their weapons religiously. I've never understood why guys think carrying a gun with thousands of rounds fired is a good thing? It's a machine, it can and will fail.

[@34dawgsgo]

100% correct. The same service for everyone.

[@iakazul]

Perfectly happy with the SC model

[@bbazzracing]

Thanks for the honesty 🫡

[@realwelder3529]

I keep coming back to this video and trying to decide if it's worth it. Lol. PSA has it right now for $229. Then, on top of that, you get a $75 rebate.

[@FrankH-d6x]

I saw this too, $150 is a steal, but something he said makes it a no go. The Beretta apx carry is a pos, terrible trigger and unreliable firing.

[@realwelder3529]

@FrankH-d6x on the plus side, the other str9 pistols are only $20 more.

[@jgpastora]

@@realwelder3529did you end up getting a different stoeger? I’m giving the mc a try it seems spn is the only KZbinr that had malfunctions from what I’ve seen I really think it was just the ammo or at least that’s what I’m hoping

[@realwelder3529]

@jgpastora I haven't popped for any of them yet, but I'm leaning towards the MC as well. I think SPN's issue was ammo related.

[@FrankH-d6x]

@@realwelder3529 watch the review from guns and ammo review, I think. He had a ftf in the beretta apx carry, took the same round and fired it fine through a different pistol

[@oddballgunman5288]

One thing I like about the MC9 is magazine compatibility

[@toddprickett6376]

Have you actually tried larger capacity mags? Mine didn't work at all until I resprung them with stiffer springs.

[@oddballgunman5288]

@@toddprickett6376 the 18 round mags work great for me

[@keystonebrotherb]

Found this for $195 plus $75 rebate. I bought the MC and C model. Eats everything.

[@Tsunami_Hawk]

My sights are off I thought it was just me. I had one light primer strike so far.

[@rayhenry26r]

I just put money on one this past Friday! I’m excited to see how it shoots! I’m hoping to hand it over to my wife for her edc!

[@Thasgolas]

I can imagine the mag compatibility - my IWI Masada Slim takes all the Jericho mags and all the Cz-75 mags, which gives it a wide variety of available options.

[@spnfirearms]

But no where near as small as this. I have a Masada and it has a compact length grip. This can shrink to a pocket pistol! Respect

[@Thasgolas]

@spnfirearms oh, I know - I liked it, too, when I saw it - but I'm finding the Masada S extremely easy to carry concealed. As to a pocket pistol? We'll see. By the way, I had a chance to s so how the grip on the Masada S works with sweaty hands this week - I was impressed!

[@Reap_and_Sow]

i was looking for a ccw was planning on getting a glock43x but i bought this stoeger instead. it was 100$ cheaper havent had any issues but ive only gone through 400 rounds sucks the one you got broke hopefully they fix it

[@gfb46]

bet they tell him to clean the pistol and don't use Magtech ammo, I would.

[@Reap_and_Sow]

​@gfb46 he updated and added info turns out it was just a bad mag

[@smokey3994]

I’ll hold off until we see how they fix the issue. Appreciate you spn !

[@toddprickett6376]

My guess would be either a magazine spring issue, recoil spring issue, or bent mag lips (least likely).

[@propblast82nd]

Excellent video on this firearm, thanks 👍

[@lousquitieri4234]

Thanks, man! Can’t wait to see how this turns out. Um, my G26 looks better every day

[@pigpaul]

Check out the prices as of this post. After rebate. Excellent review!!! 🙏

[@Precocktrigger]

Nice. I never shot, one But I love my hellcat for pocket carry, shield plus and my MC9 are my summer edc along with my PDP F

[@mikealee1978]

There are a few other videos of magtech ammo malfunctioning in this pistol and others. There are also threads on reddit about poor quality control phases. I do also believe what you described is ammo related.

[@dennisniewiadomski3626]

Mayhe a bad batch of Magtechs?

[@DP-uc5cn]

Nice CCW, thx for review👍🏻

[@obijuan3]

SPN, Have you had any issues with your Stoeger STR9 SC?

[@spnfirearms]

None, it’s been absolutely flawless!

[@obijuan3]

@@spnfirearms Thank you sir! Thank you for your videos!

[@keylargojoe62]

Thanks for the info man!

[@matthewmcpherson581]

SPN, what ammo do you like for the Ruger LCP? Thinking of picking up the original LCP, but open to the Max as well and was wondering your thoughts

[@goofysandal9552]

I’ve definitely seen him make videos talking about this. I believe he uses underwood xtreme defender because with such a short barrel, hollow points won’t open correctly. And 380 doesn’t really have an over penetration problem

[@michaelsweaney3890]

Get the LCP Max. Much greater capacity. Better ergonomics, MUCH better trigger, less recoil.

[@Damnjayy1347]

I’ve also had no problems with gold dots. Hornety has feeding issues when hand feeding but shot fine

[@aaronwilcox6417]

Unfortunate. Paid $160 for an like new Shield 40 and so far no issue and it has amazing accuracy. Its what i got and dont think I need to change yet. If i could afford it i wish i had an S&W 43c to go with it but those are spendy.

[@jimbo3214]

Are the issues your are having with the handgun after it was cleaned or 500 rounds dirty?

[@spnfirearms]

Yes. I can’t get it to run a single magazine now. I think the guide rod is having issues. Will keep you guys updated! My buddies runs flawlessly… he has like 2.1k rounds or something through this. Not sure what happened to mine, it was running flawlessly

[@answersforlooking9430]

thats horrible..... mine runs great but not much bullets through it as of now

[@111turpin3]

Great channel. Thank you for the insight

[@trapgodnah9022]

I cant decide between this or the p365, FM reflex or Hellcat

[@spnfirearms]

Hellcat! The most reliable. Respect

[@trapgodnah9022]

@@spnfirearms from the YT reviews I’ve seen the hellcat has a pinch of recoil and the handles aren’t the firmest, Ive chosen FN reflex as the top 9mm

[@romans6two338]

If anyone has to call CZ USA, you're screwed. They still won't give me my part I have asked about 3 months ago. The part a screw, yes a screw. They sent me a stripped out screw and that's it.

[@dominicgreifinger3594]

I wanna see you check out the GX4. By far my favorite micro compact

[@spnfirearms]

I have 2! I’ve reviewed them multiple times!

[@dominicgreifinger3594]

@@spnfirearmsreally? How have I missed your videos on them. My bad brother, I’m slackin haha 😅 thought I’ve watched them all. I’ll check them out. Keep up the great work, your videos are awesome and love the honest, down to earth reviews. Pumped to see your upcoming holsters 💪🏼

[@spnfirearms]

No worries man! I can make an updated video for you guys. My thoughts have changed on them lately

[@dominicgreifinger3594]

⁠@@spnfirearmsthat would be awesome to see. Hopefully it hasn’t changed in the form of the Stoeger.

[@davidtubens298]

Wow what a bummer! It looked like it had everything going for it. That truly sucks! You had my interest with the previous video "the sleeper"

[@butisit7816]

Have you tried any Kahrs?

[@toddprickett6376]

I replaced a Kahr with the STR-9MC. The fact their mag capacity is so low (given they are single stacks) makes Kahrs obsolete. I doubled the mag capacity by going to the STR-9MC while maintaining the same height and adding 1/2 inch length.

[@butisit7816]

@@toddprickett6376 the kahr x is looking good

[@mtnbound2764]

I have a STR-9 full size. it shoots low at even close range... sent it back to them and they sent it back saying it was fine... guess i wont be buying another stoeger. good thing i got this gun as a " throw away" to keep in my car or places i wouldnt want to leave a more expensive firearm. also yeah, what were they thinking putting adj sights on a carry gun, that rear sight looks like its designed to catch clothing on draw.

[@JamesHackett-kv4ki]

If you got adjustable sights just adjust them

[@compasslife6658]

I'd be interested to hear about your Stoeger customer service experience.

[@spnfirearms]

I have the video coming soon. It was the best customer service I have ever dealt with!!

[@compasslife6658]

@@spnfirearms Encouraging! Thanks for the heads up. I'll be watching 👍

[@iLikeCarsFPS]

Are we worried about the STR9 SC (Sub compact)?

[@frankbrowning328]

It's odd that a fixed site is not standard and an adj site an option. It is possible to fix the site issue by replacing the front site with a taller front site. If a taller front site is not available, the back site could be filed down, and the notch deepened until the gun shot to point of aim at a given distance. I'll be interested in how the reliability issue is resolved with Stoeger

[@joelhamilton7300]

Do you prefer the stoeger str9 over tisas px9

[@hawk_eye_view]

For the same price check out the Beretta APX A1 compact! They have a $100 rebate right now too 🔥

[@anthonyjarrad141]

I got the A1, rebate took 4.months, it's the biggest piece I own (like SPN I prefer smaller easily concealable 9mm). Was surprised I can actually conceal it with the right clothes and belt, great gun, haven't had enough range time with it yet, soon!

[@stuardoloy1104]

Would like to see a video oficial the beretta apx a1 carry and hear your opinions

[@keysgirl7699]

You’re looking at it all wrong man. What Stoeger is doing is teaching you how to clear all types of malfunctions. I love cheaper, off-brand guns too. Some things I just won’t carry tho.

[@SpicyRok7482]

I have 2. #317212...BOTH run GREAT! CanNOT be beat for $259 & UP NEW!

[@JhonVargas-h8o]

Got a sar px9 carry cheap works great

[@anthonyjarrad141]

Hey was wondering about that pistola, is it thin like micro 9s, or more of a Compact/subcompact typical double stack?

[@BonesGrave-e2x]

You had a bad batch of ammo. I would try different types of ammo before sending it back. If there was something wrong with it, those defense rounds would not have run flawlessly. But hey that is just my opinion. I have talked with a lot of people about cleaning your guns, after the range. Every person said cleaning is important. I see so many people who let that build up. Then they blame the firearm not working correctly. If you let that build up over time it will cause problems. I have owned firearms most of my life. Cleaning is very important when it comes to guns running reliably. I have guns in my collection with over a 10k round count. I have not had to replace any parts. I do strongly believe that taking care of your guns will last a very long time without having any issues. The sad thing is there are a lot of people who don't take care of their guns. With saying this I am not saying anything bad about you SPN. I am just saying this in general.

[@chaburchak]

So have we gotten an update video on this? Was it repaired and how is it running these days?

[@anthonyjarrad141]

Soooooo, wait a year for Stoeger to work out some long term kinks, then buy and enjoy 😁

[@spnfirearms]

Nope. They have plenty of running handguns. These had a MUCH better release than the p365!

[@kaisoliz2533]

my str9 hates a lot of different ammo i tried some pbr bullets and it jammed after every other one tried some blazers and it had maybe 2 jams out of 100 bullets i got some remingtons and they shot perfectly but i got tipped off to try 124 grain and it makes a difference

[@jeffjones8285]

Bought my Shield Plus for 387$ out the door.

[@lavidacigars]

Any chance you can compare your S&W Shield in 357 Sig to the Glock 33? I have the Glock 27 in 40 converted to 357 Sig. It’s basically the same size as your Glock 26 and mine has the Pearce +1 pinky extension, so 10+1 capacity. Just wondering if you thought the Shield was worth swapping out and losing capacity?

[@dannyb9140]

Do you consider this a Glock clone? BTW, I don't see that as a negative.

[@THORR-mh9px]

Mine has been flawless/ 2000 rounds.

[@spnfirearms]

Exactly my point. There are tons of reliable stoegers out there. Lemons happen.

[@THORR-mh9px]

@spnfirearms If you could only have one 9mm handgun?Brand and model please?Thanks

[@111turpin3]

Oh no!!!

[@adampawlicki6993]

Have you had experience with any defensive ammo that has ran flawlessly through EVERY hand gun you throw it into???? Oh....and "It is what it is"😂 Sorry man...I love it!

[@spnfirearms]

Haha and yes gold dots in 9mm 124 grain and civil liberty 9mm have never failed me. Most defensive ammos don’t have issues

[@adampawlicki6993]

@spnfirearms thanks man🤙 I haven't actually heard of the civil liberty ammo... ...Oh, I have always wanted to ask...wha does "SPN" stand for, or mean??

[@FauxAmis78]

I understand the frustration, but I'm of the opinion that you should be cleaning those small guns every couple hundred rounds, especially budget guns. Over 500 rounds without cleaning it is borderline neglect, imho. That said, I've known people who have had lots of bad luck with Magtech. Thanks for all the videos though, and I'm still jealous you got to go to UFC 300! Must've been amazing.

[@spnfirearms]

It was cleaned every time out. The 550 rounds was in one sitting at the range. My hellcat ran 500 in one video. My p365 ran 500 in one video. After that malfunction it was cleaned every range trip. You guys always freak out and don’t take it for what is actually being said. Just relax

[@FauxAmis78]

I'm relaxed, brother. Not freaking out. Just didn't catch that it was all in one range trip.

[@sBentonfamily]

Multiple failures in a short timeframe followed by normal running with alternative ammo would make me look at the ammo. Did you run this ammo through another firearm ?

[@Wolf-xi1hr]

Gx4 it is

[@mtnbound2764]

sigp365.

[@Myemnhk]

​@@mtnbound2764hes obviously not trying to spend 500 dollars

[@bbazzracing]

Na GX4 is worse. Tons of people have issues with them. Do your googles

[@Wolf-xi1hr]

@@bbazzracing I Have one and run rounds thru mine every weekend I have over 1k rounds at this points and had have no issues, don’t knock it until you try it, I love it

[@bbazzracing]

@@Wolf-xi1hr you are one of the lucky ones. I rather not take them chances. Recalls, trigger issues, malfunctions, light primer strikes. Almost everything bad that can happen to a gun happens on the GX4. Soo no thank you. This is why you can get them for so cheap. I've seen them for $200 new

[@kenshin034]

G26 and G3C appendix cause crimes gonna have either mags on them worst case as much as I like the shield the G3C has more Mag/sight options

[@anthonyjarrad141]

I have the G3C and Shield Plus, for me I just shoot the Sheild better so it's my EDC and G3C is relagates as my truck gun...

[@texasrigged5875]

I want to say 4 months ago maybe longer. I went looking for my first conceal carry/at home carry around while doing yard work. My two local gun shops say even though they carry’s it they wouldn’t sell it to anyone for more then range use and gave me $50 off a mc9 he had priced at $400 and I walked out the door with it the next day after paper work haven’t had a problem with it (it prettier then a high point but the 2 dudes I trust to sell me ccw said it’s a no no) 😅 edit next time I go I’ll ask them why if your interested and one of them has them at $250 with warning on a sticky note on box lmao

[@spnfirearms]

Main they sound like a bunch of idiots. I kid you not, people who work at gun shops know the least about handguns lmao. I kid you not. They think they know what they are talking about and they don’t.

[@texasrigged5875]

@@spnfirearmsso in your opinion it’s a definite check out especially if it’s at 250?

[@patriotplays6990]

Wait? how many rounds? you said 1300? It is a small budget gun, couldn't the recoil spring be cooked? Good luck my man. Keep us updated.

[@spnfirearms]

Yes that’s what it is from what the malfunctions show. I’m sending it back to see what they say. It’s a stainless guide rod, should be able to hold up

[@BrowncoatNerd]

Owned by Beretta but definitely not made by them. These come out of Turkey and to me that’s a red flag.

[@jason200912]

Turkey makes really good pistols. It's their shotguns that are useless

[@JamesHackett-kv4ki]

Turkey makes some great guns like tisas

[@BrowncoatNerd]

@ my only experience with Tisas was with one of their 1911s and it was far from great.

[@MrJuniormikey]

its the ammo not the gun

[@laasland40oz]

I look forward to the follow up

[@mtnbound2764]

their website says 10+1 or 13+1. not 11+1.

[@answersforlooking9430]

its 11 +1..... i have the same gun.....

[@mtnbound2764]

@@answersforlooking9430 ok i guess their site is wrong then! thanks!

[@smickjeff1]

Must have changed very recently, I have one. You can still purchase 11rd mags at Midwest Gun Works.

[@toddprickett6376]

Mine shipped with a 10+1 and a 13+1, but the 10+1 had a pinky extender. I called and told them I wanted a flush mounted mag like I was supposed to get and they shipped me an 11+1 flush mount.

[@intoeverything2023]

Did you happen to save any of the brass from the malfunctions? It can tell you a few things about what's happening. I'm sure stoeger will stand by their product, but will they give you the real reason it failed. I'm all about companies standing by their product but, you're a tradesman. What's it like to take a craftsman tape measure back 27 times for the lifetime guarantee?

[@Damnjayy1347]

I don’t think the mags are interchangeable. I’ve tried running str9 combat mags and it doesn’t sit high enough to chamber next round. Gonna try more tho

[@snakeplissken44]

You know, I think magtech shipped a batch of shit ammo. I have a ruger lc9s and a czp10c that has been running everything no problem including magtech, but all of a sudden, I've been having issues with those guns running magtech.

[@realwelder3529]

I shoot quite a bit of Magtech, and today at the range, I had one that I struck 3 times in 2 different pistols, and it wouldn't fire. It was a Magtech Steel 115.

[@jamesdelap4085]

No SPN zone!

[@exodo7727]

I’m going to be honest not having an option to turn off the HDR on your videos it makes them unwatchable. It’s too bright.

[@harleyboy65]

I will go out on a limb and say you will not get any customer service. Will watch for the outcome

[@toddprickett6376]

I emailed them and got no response. I called twice and got right through both times. The first time was to have them ship me a flush magazine as mine came with two mags with pinky extenders. They sent me a flush mount. The second time was to tell them the 15 round mags didn't feed in my microcompact. I asked if I could exchange them for the two mags that ship with the gun as the springs in the 15 round mags weren't stiff enough. They agreed, then swapped the two 15 round mags for two other 15 round mags (sigh) that also didn't work.

[@jackbauer9077]

Always best to spend a bit more get a Glock or S&W better gun, sights holsters and accessories more available and spare parts and magazines, over time better value spending a bit more.

[@111turpin3]

Glock 26 till I die

[@brandonjohnson1758]

It's a ammo problem

[@spnfirearms]

It’s actually the magazine. I cleared it up in a later video. It won’t work in my subcompact either… every other mag I use is fine. Respect

[@sleigh4019]

Doesn't hapoen? Imagine a canik mc9 taking all the mags lol ..oh they did before .. Never got why out of this vs a MC9 you run this ..its funny cause its 30-60$ difference at most

[@sleigh4019]

Oh and at 450$ it cost more the a MC9 so way way out imo . I have shot one don't own one and I wasn't impressed there SC was way better by miles and cheaoer

[@anthonyjarrad141]

​@@sleigh4019got the Canik Elite SC, love it to death, found a beautiful matching tungsten colored +9 aluminum mag extension (21+1) for home defense, carry once in a while. Was planning to get the Stoeger SC as a better looking G26....

[@thomascrompton7775]

I mean no disrespect and understand its all about vreatubg content but luke you said 1400 rounds did you ckean the gun. Just because you havent with others doesnt mean it was right. Did you trt other ammo. Was this sameme ammo shot for 1400 rounds. It woyod be great to think every gun lukes every ammo but we all no rhats not fact. Just got a new batch federal 115 grain fmj worst and dirtiest ammo i shot in long time.

[@DanTheWolfman]

Whoa bro slow your roll...clean and lube like your supposed to and Magtech has been having many QC issues for months and it's underpowered by far you said it ran fine w JHPS thats called a clue. UNDERPOWERED magtech likely w OAL variances as well. Clean lube and shoot some quality 124 grain then see. The puddiest 115 w gummed up gun of course is going to slow slide velocity and in a MICRO come on. Was this the magtech steel case? That would be even worse because of different case expansion....u have 3 problems and it's likely not the pistol. Their .32 has been bad, John from ASP in HK Hammer Fired p30 had two primers not go off on camera but he is sponsored by them.

[@rod675]

My local go-to gun shop for ammo hasn't even sold Magtech for a long time now..maybe this has something to do with it? Never actually bought it when they had it in stock.

[@Hurtchu]

owned by Benelli not beretta. Benelli stoeger and Franchi is all the same.

[@Hurtchu]

even tho Benellie is owned by Beretta it's a different build house.

[@grominwithrob1339]

These are going for $229 and then $149 after rebate. 🤯

[@joewest2560]

In my testing I like the gx4 toro best.