$250 speaker VS. $50 speaker

Ryan compares his Celestion Blue to his Ted Weber Signature Series 12F-B. Which speaker works best with the Ibanez TSA15H, use your own ears and help decide!
Celestion Blue - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D5X382/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B001D5X382&linkCode=as2&tag=sixtycyclehum-20&linkId=4466f0175a70e130d1e78d4e0eb844a9
Ted Weber Signature Series - www.tedweber.com/speakers/signature-series
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[@jpatrickgreen]

Thank you for not just an apples to apples speaker comparison, but for demoing this amp through a cabinet beside the stock, paired Ibanez one or combo. Add to that, you ran pedals through it which no one else seems to have done in a review.

[@R.Stridstrom]

Best comparison of speakers (with a given amp) i've seen so far - and i have seen plenty. Great 😃 Wish there were more good ones (videos) of them Webers so i can be somewhat certain what to get. Been looking for alternatives to an G12H30 55 - and Weber Legacy 12F aint no cheaper than an Celestion G12H30 55Hz so it is a gamble. Great sounding version of Weber speaker you got there though.

[@mynameisnotjosh1]

Wow the weber seems to have more fidelity. I have an alnico blue in my ampeg j12t and this is making me consider swapping it.

[@BarnacleButtock]

I definitely like the sound of the Iron Horse with the Weber better.

[@Nrthrn]

Wow! I wasn't expecting to like the Weber better. I found the Celestion a bit too harsh. Great review btw

[@prescotian1500]

I agree with this guy

[@prescotian1500]

But I do think they would sound great together in a 2x12 cab

[@Nrthrn]

yeah, perhaps they would balance each other out. Worth a shot

[@marekw7562]

Weber will disappear in mix. It sounds cool alone but celestion is much more "in your face". Thanks for comparing. U r cool bro

[@60CycleHumcast]

thanks dude *respect knuckles*

[@justinmiller93]

great comparison! to preface my thoughts I think both are good but the celestion is definitely not worth a $200 difference. I actually found the celestion to sound more scooped (at least to my ears) when the signal was distorted, where as the weber seemed to push the mids and high end more but dropped off the low end. When the signal was clean I had a hard time telling a significant difference. I think the celestion was a solid full sound, and I think the weber could benefit from more low end. All in all, they both sound great and in a band context it will be harder to pick out those small details.

[@Neboviews]

Weber, although with the Celestion would be a nice 2x12 combo.

[@markferguson3745]

There are several unmentioned factors to consider; Every speaker doesn't suit every amp; Speakers need break in time to reach peak performance; Ohm ratings matter, and most amps that offer options still work best at one output rating; Ceramic speakers are familiar to most , so there is a certain amount of immediate attraction to them. Among Alnicos, there is a very big difference between the Jensen/American design and Celestion/British type.With ceramics, there is also a significant difference among price points.Hemp cones are a great way to add some vintage mojo to a modern speaker. Speakers can make or break an amp, particularly if you're looking for sounds outside of the standard or generic .

[@chrisbarnes8867]

THATS how comparison are done!

[@timreichert9982]

The clean channel reveals the alnico to be better. A bit of dirtiness in the weber a kind of cheapness, scratchy. I would like to hear a Weber alnico. That nasal midrange he alludes to is awesome, that's the alnico singing.

[@megas2807]

Celestiin for cleans chords and leads and also for dirty leads... kinda prefer the weber for dirty chords!

[@ozzymack574]

Question I too have this exact amp And I have a Carvin 2x12 speaker cab loaded with Texas Heat Eminence 8 ohm speakers Do I use the 2x8 ohm jack or the 16 ohm jack the speakers are wired series Thanks

[@60CycleHumcast]

If the speakers are wired in series, I believe that you would need to use the 16 ohm jack. - steve

[@swmorgan515]

Where are these Webers available for 50 bucks new? Not on their website site, that I could find.

[@60CycleHumcast]

Spencer Morgan got mine on eBay new from Chicago music exchange. Maybe I got a good deal?

[@jacobbockover1628]

These are soo similar that i gotta check the screan to tell the difference

[@ZekeMan62]

The Weber definitely sounds smoother, harmonically richer with greater clarity, just an overall more musical sound. The Celestion was brash by comparison, listener fatigue would set in pretty quick.

[@tootiegrigio713]

NIce demo Ryan! i'm curious on your opion of how they sounded in the room. I tend to like how 16 ohm speakers sound compared to 8 and 4, at least for guitar.

[@60CycleHumcast]

Daniel Corey In the room they sound pretty similar to the recording, the volume in room makes everything just sound kind of loud so the finer details are lost in person.

[@neocollective]

The Celestion is more balanced throughout the frequency spectrum whereas the Webber is a little highs heavier. I'd get the Webber and put the remaining $200 into a better amp if you want to get the best sound for your money.

[@stephanematis]

On the Iron Horse, the Celestion felt more complete and defined, the Weber felt compressed but more appropriate for the rest.

[@lowheadroom]

Totally clean, they sound almost identical. Distorted, totally different.

[@zz-np2sr]

Nice attempt,especially panning between the two with the same riffs..however the miking/recording not so good.(I like using a condenser off axis and a couple feet back) As for the differences I've owned 2 CBs and many alnico and ceramic speakers.There is most definitely a difference in the attack and sustain with alnico speakers(ceramic hemp cone speakers typically have softened attacks as well) that is obvious in person,to me anyway.It is not captured well here at all.A ceramic or neodimium typically have a faster attack and do not compress as much as an alnico speaker,the alnico speaker compresses even more when you give it more power.The CB has a large 40oz alnico motor and a light weight paper former/coil that offsets some of the slower attack and adds punch-all the while being bright and punchy yet smooth.Ceramics do not have this dynamic so partly for that reason but mostly because alnico is expensive alnico speakers tend to cost more. I've heard good things about this particular Weber,but in person the difference would be much more obvious.If you like tighter punchier tones with less compression your tastes are in line with lower priced speakers(not implying lower quality but lower price)If you like the rounded attack of alnico like me it's gonna cost,lol.

[@profile1251]

I m stoked over that Ibanez head. And I think that Blue needs to be broken in still..

[@derred723]

I'd take the $50 one and be happy to spend the difference on something else.

[@doombringer1505]

Yeah. ANOTHER one.

[@eduardobarboza7629]

I prefer the Weber, tone and price!

[@mikedickeson257]

Although I liked the video, I'm a bit confused on the location of the microphone(s?). It appears to these old eyes that there is only one being used and it is located at the end of the boom. But I could be wrong and missed something in the set up. That being said, the microphone(s) location(s) definitely would affect this demo or any demo for that matter. To these ears the Weber sounded great and is a great value. But the Celestion AlNiCo is hands down a better all around speaker - to these ears. NOTE: I have found this to be true, ears are like taste buds - - -

[@60CycleHumcast]

Mike Dickeson there are two microphones, placed in the same way with two booms. They are cascade fathead ribbon mics and I like them centered on the cone around 4” off the grill.

[@mikedickeson257]

@@60CycleHumcast Hello, thanx for the info. My phones screen appears to have "cropped" the video? & Hell to grow old.

[@60CycleHumcast]

Mike Dickeson ah gotcha, Typically I try not to include mics in the shot because arm chair engineers get distracted by them, lol.

[@mikedickeson257]

@@60CycleHumcast This is a great video. I now "watch" the video with my eyes closed & the more I listen to it, the more I like It. I'm so impressed I hit the subscribe button.

[@jaycee30865]

Weber finally fairly good here.

[@anyday82]

Best part of the video starts at 2:54

[@jegr3398]

My favorite part is 6:50

[@corndog2835]

Weber FTW!!!

[@tonedriverss8629]

Weber .... WINS ! Value and tone.

[@theheavensdeclare7571]

Weber👍🏼👍🏼

[@hgostos]

I am surprised at how similar they sound

[@therflcommish]

I like the Celestion better but I don't know about $200 better.

[@jerryx2000]

thats racist

[@geoffwhitemusic]

3:08 LOL

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

a little thing that has been left out is any speaker when new will sound harsh and brittle until it breaks in(aprx 50 hrs) do not ever think this cheap ceramic speaker will sound better than the alnico blue in any way shape or form as it wont.

[@60CycleHumcast]

'better' is subjective.

[@grilledspaghetti]

Only liked the Weber more in the second scenario.

[@carlc2597]

Weber hands down

[@martinscalici1905]

Both in stereo

[@WilliamSmith-dg5re]

The weber sounds thinner, but more articulate.

[@stubkar]

Iron horse delivers the weber to the finish line, imho. Buy five webers, sell extras to converts from this video, after a mark up.... profit.

[@jdl2180]

They sounded almost the same, I would save 200 $

[@DeanMk1]

Man, what is it with AlNico speakers. They always sound tinny and choked. While this one doesn't sound all that tinny, it does have that ultra death crunch "trying-to-talk-with-your-mouth-closed" kind of thing going on, very much. Meanwhile, The Weber sounds much more open, more resonant, more....natural. Weber Ceramic for the win, this time. YMMV.

[@wilzy30]

Celestion for me.

[@frantisca]

Can't hear the real tone of each speaker, drowned in all this fuzzy mess… the Weber seems to float a bit better though in this mushy growl…😉

[@CappyRev]

headphones are a thing

[@Tyler_Wilson]

I think the Celestion is lined with snake oil... 🤪

[@davidwilsonjr6889]

how about a review for a closed back, open back, semi-open back...?

[@60CycleHumcast]

I'd have to figure out a creative way to demonstrate that, i have a feeling there wouldn't be a change with a mic on the speaker, id have to have the rest of the cab and the room mic'd. Things would get pretty subjective.

[@davidwilsonjr6889]

60 Cycle Hum good points..that's why you get paid the "big bucks". Thanks for replying, i appreciate it.

[@60CycleHumcast]

no big bucks over here, its more about trying to manage my time, lol.

[@davidwilsonjr6889]

60 Cycle Hum "big bucks" = completely sarcasm..I appreciate your time and effort you put into all your videos. It's awesome.

[@60CycleHumcast]

;-)

[@martinscalici1905]

Or the blue in 8 ohms

[@daviewavie112]

Martin Scalici might be a better comparison

[@TIMExBANDIT]

Man I wish these guys would talk more, nobody just wants to hear unopinionated riffing between two speakers, gosh!

[@60CycleHumcast]

TIMExBANDIT lol

[@Diax1324]

Celestion definitely wins

[@0isez]

Weber is a bit thinner sounding.

[@RulgertGhostalker]

for $50 you could almost afford a 6-1/2" Weber ceramic. ( what are you talking about ? )

[@shawnreese6538]

cheaper equal better

[@henrysmith187]

They just sound different....

[@davidmajor4484]

Sixteen vs Eight ohms isn't exactly a true comparison. Nice to hear the real difference if you ever see fit to correct Otherwise I'm glad you're making comparison I have that same Weber and it's totally transparent and IMHO highly recommend

[@apinapapina6807]

Celestion is clearly more controlled, beautiful and somehow more even sounding. But, after some tweaking in DAW Weber will sound useable and good. Weber in much more bang for the buck but a wealthy player buys Celestion for better sound.

[@wilzy30]

Celestion just...

[@harleyadam4813]

No contest. AlNiCo all the way. The Weber sounded like it was being played through a vuvuzela horn. My only question is.....why didn't you make it an apples-to-apples comparison and compare the Celestion Blue to a Weber AlNiCo speaker?

[@60CycleHumcast]

Because we didn't have one. - Steve

[@harleyadam4813]

Solid answer. ~Adam

[@funkystudiocat]

Celestion much better.

[@potrmax]

hmm 16 ohm or 8 ohm.. Very very bad((Teach physics.

[@60CycleHumcast]

Max Potter ?

[@60CycleHumcast]

Luke Geis I don't know what he even means by "teach physics"

[@larrydering1598]

Hire a guitar player and retest.