27" rubber-powered Seafire - Anatomy of a Trim Session #3

[@Bear049]

Brother I really appreciate your free-flight build and flight videos. Thank you for posting them I know the process takes a lot of your time. I hope that you know the messiah and have given Him your heart ❤️. God bless you

[@davidholmgren659]

Boy that flies pretty darn nice! You have trimming down to an art!!

[@williamrobinson7435]

Yes now I've seen all 3 trim sessions on this Seafire.. I can really see how strongly one would wish it to go to the right, and open out to the torque swing, but it seems as stable as it is wilful!! A whole lot of skill and effort has gone into this remarkable plane. Virtouso aero modelling! 👏👍👍👍

[@maxfliart]

Thx, William. Those first two trim session were so full of hope, but went down as frustrating. Glad she showed her true colors for the third session.

[@williamrobinson7435]

That's one of the best rubber powered scale models I've seen in 50 years of interest in these things.. Fabulous. Simply fabulous. 👍

[@davidbonnell6601]

That's the most gorgeous and beautiful model I have ever seen. Total perfection

[@chrisbailey4254]

That looks great liked the shots where she was flying away and climbing in the left hand bank. Very pretty aeroplane.

[@cedricdelanougerede7377]

A guy once said to me " Let the model turn in the direction it wants - don't force it." and the Spit seemed to want to climb when turning left and dive when turning right. I know several people who would have given up after that first session, but you stuck to it. The videos are a real education fot trimmers of all ages and experience. Thanks. For indoor scale flying there is a saying "Right for high wing and left for low wing."

[@JFlyer1973]

my gosh the flight of this beauty is so perfect it looks real! outstanding!!! Such a wonderful job you did!

[@rafaeltorres2886]

OMG your thrust angle is spot on and so is the balance. truly amazing.

[@maxfliart]

Thx. Took awhile to find it, but when I did, I froze it in place. Other elements can change after a season or two of flying, but that thrust angle is staying put.

[@jtoyoungkid3117]

yes yes yes, good job, love your videos!

[@BadChizzle]

It IS a pure joy to be out flying. I’m with you in my heart... so Cool! Such a great spot you have for flying. I’ve probably already told you that, though. Thank you for the videos!

[@ShockeWulf190]

Lovely model sir. Ive always loved watching freeflight videos

[@richarddarlington1139]

Well done! I have applied what I learned flying free flight toward setting up my R/C models. Also, flying nothing but R/C sailplanes ( with a rubber job here and there) for two years has taught me to be a better pilot. It's a lifetime of learning with a hobby for life! Remember, one change at a time. But I'm sure you already know that. Keep 'em flyin'!

[@mikegmdw1]

looks perfect Max, congratulations on your lovely model, obviously years of experience.

[@eggandchipsman7373]

What a beautiful peaceful scene you have shown us.Thank you very much!

[@HROM1908]

Thank you so much for a beautiful experience. I sensed the emotion in your vice. Hats off to your expertise.

[@thegentcase7360]

What a great hobby ! So relaxing and peaceful but not less exciting- better than to play Golf - Congratulations ! And remember - Leonardo Da Vincis first flying object was rubber powered as well ;) Greets Martin ( A321 pilot)

[@maxfliart]

+Martin Goetz Thx, Martin. I agree...free-flight rubber is good therapy or medicine for many of life's woes. I can't get enough of it!!

[@TerryPittman]

Gorgeous model Tom, It was inspiring to see you methodically trimming it in such perfect conditions

[@maxfliart]

+Terry Pittman Thx, T...I know you would have loved being out there.

[@Mraerodesire]

Just magical, your hard work has paid off - with interest !

[@maxfliart]

Thx. I was thrilled, after having gone through two frustrating trim sessions in the weeks prior.

[@andymodeller965]

Wow, what a fantastic model and video. Loved the methodical process to perfect the flying. Keep the videos coming.

[@homienat3374]

She looks great in the air nice plane mate

[@carlnewtonfishing6045]

That looks to fly at scale full size speed. Perfect flight.

[@bobgreen3116]

Thank you for making these videos. It shows us that it takes a lot of hard work and not giving up, so you can get the plans flying well. She sure looks good in flight!❤ I live 5 min. from pine forge. I never knew there was a flying field there. I did hear of people flying at the Daniel Boone Homestead. Thank you again. Hope to get my Hellcat to fly more the 30 seconds.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Bob. Pine Forge was a friend's field on their farm, so it was private. Sadly, they've since sold the property, and it's now a horse farm. I miss it. I've never flown at the Homestead, but one of my friends did, although he has since passed. Perhaps it's still available. The best field I've found is in Wawayanda, near Goshen, NY, although it's 100 miles from the Lehigh Valley.

[@saberwulfSC]

Awesome flights! Great job letting her finally go left. I know the struggle was real trimming her trying to go right. Happy flying!

[@loknlode]

Perfect. You are an artist and an inspiration. Absolutely amazing bird!

[@Paul-pb3vq]

That's a lovely model and fly's very nice . Well done 👍.

[@whatyoudo9773]

wow those are really nice peaceful shots of it flying so smooth, and somehow you have the brains not to stick your face in the camera and talk forever...good work!

[@maxfliart]

Thx. It's all about the models !

[@prestonshute7243]

Excellent trim, great looking model.

[@ikuyayabuuchi]

Congratulations on good flights. Beautiful silhouette of her in sunset .

[@maxfliart]

+ikuya yabuuchi Thx, I really enjoyed seeing the low angled sunlight on her as she circled.

[@lawrencesmokingangele8785]

That's one of the best I've ever seen, excellent

[@Rob-vv5yn]

Amazing to see, love the prop swinging away looks so good in the air thanks for sharing

[@kenkingsflyingmachines2382]

What a beautiful flyer. I want to get a Hurricane to fly that way.

[@billsomrak]

Superb! Thanks for sharing that session. I can only imagine your feelings on that 2nd to last flight when she took off going right. I've watched quite a few of your vids, and I must say, your craftsmanship is as good as anything I've ever seen. Sharing the flying sessions ... really quite an honor. Cheers! (I grew up building models from Guillow's kits, etc., and its a shame that the closest kids today will get to this hobby would be maybe seeing something like this on their smart phones)

[@pakasit1812]

Splendid!!!!!! Enjoyed watching your trial flights and your methods of trimming it. Let me admit that I don't know what your goal was, as some of her earlier flights were, to me, already excellent. Salute from Bangkok, Thaiand

[@darrellid]

Had no idea a scale warbird could fly so smoothly on rubber power--a testament to your design and craftsmanship. Did you ever publish your plans?

[@BrianCamp-j3o]

Wow it’s gorgeous! I can only hope to be able to build my models half that nice!

[@philipbrailey]

Great stuff. Thanks for posting.

[@jamesbonde4470]

I think, by the look of the covering, in the damp air, you picked up a lot of weight. Wonderful flights, excellent workmanship. I just LOVE the way the pilot is looking back at you, very realistic. Here it is, 3 years later. Is she still flying?

[@maxfliart]

Thx. Yes, damp evening air can indeed change the surfaces or add a bit of weight...so unless you have a soft terrain for landing, it could lead to damage. Often, if you fly the next morning, you end up with a different model, so it's good to re-check the trim. The Seafire is still at the ready, in flying mode, although I haven't had her out in about a year. She's safely tucked away in her basement hangar.

[@sandrazanse3738]

😮beautifull plane&great flyer!

[@nmmlo]

What a beautiful model and video and also an outstanding flyer, congratulations and thank you for sharing this inspiring video. I´m building now a Guillow´s Nieuport 11 but just as display model.

[@gonefishing5415]

perfect touch down

[@djktrumpet]

Just wow - inspirational. Thanks for sharing this.

[@lawrencesmokingangele8785]

Long live , the true freeflyt

[@jameswilliams1636]

Beautiful flights.

[@silverman6019]

thank you for the advice. love your videos you are a Talented builder

[@millerviz]

How do you get such beautiful markings on your models?

[@Paul-pb3vq]

It fly's absolutely superb well done .

[@romulormachado]

I fly only RC... But a need to say that you Spit fly so beautfull! Its amazing!!!!! Where i can find this plans to build it?

[@PixieDixie-r5v]

We have a “Spit” here at North Weald, RAF base actually the Norwegian Squadron during WW2 . Is just one of the prettiest aircraft I ever seen, and the Merlin sound ...... makes me chills.

[@maxfliart]

I've never been around a full sized Spit...but like the rest of the world, I've always loved the sound. To feel it in person must be incredible. Perhaps it's why I've read 'First Light' three times.

[@PixieDixie-r5v]

@@maxfliart "First Light" I don't know this book. I will read it. By the way, I will make first attempt to build a Spit, and thank you for the info you send, really interesting.Take Care, Max!

[@maxfliart]

Yes, it was written by Geoffrey Wellum, who was reportedly one of the youngest pilot in the Battle of Britain. This is a film of his story. vimeo.com/45585260

[@PixieDixie-r5v]

@@maxfliart Thank you, Max!

[@PixieDixie-r5v]

@@maxfliartFantastic film, Max, excelent dogfight filming as good as " Battle of Britain" also very interesting the thoughts and experiences of Mr Wellum. I will read the book for sure. "Fighter Heroes of WW1" by Joshua Levine Very dramatic book describing the day life of a fighter pilot. Kind Regards. Danny

[@twickersruss]

If you find aerodynamics interesting ,you can have as much fun with free flight as you can with radio control.

[@markpedwell1250]

Well done such skill 👏 👍

[@LiberatorYourself]

So grateful!

[@lawrencesmokingangele8785]

You are a great modelr

[@cloudstreets1396]

When you get toward maximum winds on the rubber motor, is the model putting out a constant prop RPM until a certain percentage of the winds are gone or does it start losing RPM the moment it leaves your hand?

[@FrankWalsh]

Thanks for these videos. I'm returning to the hobby after many years and it is inspiring to see what you do. I've seen you change Gurney flaps, how do you attach them so that you can make field adjustments to length, etc? Also, for simple models with fixed control surfaces, how do you make rudder and elevator trim changes? Lots of advice on line about what changes to make! But precious little about how.

[@maxfliart]

+Frank Walsh Thanks, Frank. I'm glad you enjoy them. The info gathered on my end is rather valuable for each model, as it feels somewhat impossible to remember what happens after each adjustment and subsequent flights. Hopefully the knowledge gained leads to better trim sessions with other models in the future. I use a UHU glue stick to attach the gurney flaps. That way you can easily pop them off and readjust. If they're stuck, then a little bit of rubbing alcohol on the gluer joint melts the UHU and it slides off easily. For tail surface adjustments, I use 2 or 3 soda can hinges, about 1/4" - 3/8" wide attached with CA. They're strong enough to hold the position, but it's best to check after a hard landing.

[@FrankWalsh]

maxfliart I very much appreciate the additional information. When I get a break in the weather I'm going to start testing my first build (beyond a stick body) in 30 years, an Aeronca chief easy built kit I built after Christmas.

[@maxfliart]

+Frank Walsh Terrific. Good luck with her.

[@JongAmPark]

Not so many people are this successful with rubber powered scale model. It's amazing! The plane itself must be built very precisely enough to glide well. And... still amazing how you could wind it more than 1000 turns. 130-140 were max for me.

[@maxfliart]

Thx for the kind words. The peg to peg distance is around 13" on the Seafire. I have two loops of 3/16" x 40" in her. Using a 10:1 winder, it's not that difficult to reach 2000 turns for this model, which is going to give her 80-85 seconds of power. I always use a blast tube to prevent damage, should the rubber break while winding. You can see that process in this MiG-DIS video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4qkmGZ7hJllsK8

[@lindamcentaffer5969]

Damp air makes for wrinkly covering=parasitic drag. Even with that, the Spit flies great.

[@nhschreiner]

Great flights. What are you using for hinge material that allow you to tweet the rudder?

[@maxfliart]

Thx. I use soda cans for the hinges, easily cut out with scissors. Roughly 1/2" sq. slotted in with an Xacto, then CA'd in place. 2 or 3 per rudder or stab fin.

[@nhschreiner]

I have researching DIY blast or winding tubes without any luck. Would you mind letting me know what you use for a blast/winding tube. I assume one for every length plane you own.

[@maxfliart]

@@nhschreiner The best available product I've used are various diameters of rocket body tubes, which can be found in 18" lengths on the web. Volare offers 3' lengths of clear plastic tubing, but I don't know if they mail them. I've made a few of my own by wrapping bond paper into a tube....around a dowel helps. Adding a thinned yellow wood glue as you roll would probably help toughen the deal. Most of the tubes work for a variety of models, but yes, some are specific to a given ship. The large, 54" Nicholas Beazley uses one of those plastic tubes that you can easily find for use as golf club liners. Good luck.

[@crashrr2993]

I’m struggling to trim my latest crate, can’t figure out if it wants to go left or right... I’m just wondering, when you made the decision to let the Seafire (and Hodek) go left, did you change the thrust setting ?

[@maxfliart]

Not on the Hodek, perhaps a tad less right on the Seafire, but for both, I used rudder, wingtip weight, and gurney flaps on the TE's to secure the consistent left circle. They both can fade or wander a bit after power runs out, but they keep their wings flat, and continue to glide. Initially when they went right, they'd spiral in to the right...thus the decision to trying forcing them to the left.

[@crashrr2993]

Tom, many thanks for the info. Both the Hurricane and the Sopwith were suffering that arcing power-dive to the right. I’ve cured it on the Pup with aggressive left thrust (turns out my noseblock had some built-in right) and now have a climbing left circle to work with. However, the Hurricane is an enigma, you made a comment about your Seafire saying ‘perhaps the rudder is too big?’ The Hurri has a huge rudder, and I wonder if it catches the wind and swings the plane accordingly, regardless of my trim. Oddly, it’s the best glider I’ve ever built! Oh, yes, I have news on Storm Emma... your comments were very prescient...!😂

[@ducksandbears6900]

Really finest free flight! It is much recreation to see that great result in the air. the flight speed is perfect. How much Gram it have? Thank you for that amazing Video! Bigger flies better and nicer. I think a Peanut can not do that. But i am still thinking... :-) WELL D O N E :-) :-)

[@richardbrowne3641]

After you got the model trimmed it fly like a dream! How do you get your rubber bands to be very flexible to twist them to over 1,800 turns?

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Richard. It took longer than most, but was well worth the effort. She remains a good flyer.

[@richardbrowne3641]

@@maxfliart How do you make your rubber bands flexible to twisted them 1,800 turns without breaking or snapping them?

[@maxfliart]

@@richardbrowne3641 The motors are very long and they're lubricated. Check out this film on motors. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4GzXmmblMyHoas

[@soldtobediers]

2:39 & every right to be! 10:50 rubber torque increase perhaps? @ all rates: the mining of the build paid off in flights of gold.

[@FranksModelAviationWorkshop]

What’s the width, and length of rubber you’re using? How many loops? Thanks. Great fights.

[@maxfliart]

Thx. She's a good flyer. Love her solid feel in the sky. I'm using two loops of 3/16" (.187") wide rubber, with each loop 40" long. Gives me 2100 turns if I push it. About 90 seconds of power with the 10" prop.

[@nicolea2839]

Cool spitfire

[@hekikuu]

Simply amazing. What wing profile did you choose? I'll be working from Guillows plans for a similar size Spit with my own selected balsa. I just have doubts about the wing rib's shape. Any suggestions?

[@maxfliart]

Thx. Check out the very beginning of the Start to Finish video for this model. You'll see the rib shape and lots of other info throughout. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4Srg3Saeth2eM0

[@hekikuu]

While you answered I found it. All answers are in that video. Your Spit makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside :)

[@printingroller5]

Hi! Awesome models and trimming, I've built a few low wing WW2 Scale models from kit, but they are always tail heavy, may I ask what you use to balance the plane and where to place the weight to keep the appearance of the model? Thanks in advance.

[@maxfliart]

Thx. Indeed, the Seafire required a massive amount of nose ballast. At the time I was stunned. Empty, she came in at 54 grams, but required an additional 24g of lead in the nose to hit the CG. I sink the lead into the nose cone and the nose block. Uses 20g of rubber. Could probably use more, but that would mean more ballast, so I'm leaving well enough alone.

[@printingroller5]

maxfliart that's encouraging! I had to load 28grams into the nose of one plane, it was like throwing a stone!! I'm looking forward to the spring/ summer and perhaps a day of decent weather to get out there. I envy your climate! Happy flying and thanks for sharing your skills.

[@maxfliart]

Well the laws of aerodynamics are concrete, so regarding ballast, we have to do what we have to do, sadly sometimes. Looking forward to spring weather and high grass!

[@printingroller5]

maxfliart hi from Uk. I've enjoyed the Haines video, thanks for sharing! Though I'm curious as to the purpose of the small black "switch" on the underside of the plane, is there a thin wire coming from it? Thanks loads!

[@maxfliart]

That's the dethermalizer unit. There's a looped string and spring attached, which leads to the stab. At the given moment, the tail pops to 45 degrees and brings the model down. Its a safeguard against out of sight thermal flights. Since I was flying in the evening, I didn't activate it on the Seafire, although it was used with success on the Haines' final flight. Here's the timer: volareproducts.com/BUY/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_36&products_id=600

[@mikeclaytor1739]

Perfect

[@ronaldweed6103]

That's how it's done ✔

[@mattluszczak8095]

Hi bud how do you adjust rudder or elevator. Is there a screw or something

[@maxfliart]

Hi Matt. I use 1/2" sq. pieces cut from an aluminum soda can. 2-3 on each elevator or rudder section. Just slot the balsa with an Xacto, slip in the alum. half way and float on some CA. Generally they're strong enough to hold the trim.

[@ronaldweed6103]

She Flys well

[@RunFast64]

Fabulous flyer. What's the AUW? Guessing about 5 oz. Using Japanese tissue covering? I've heard some modelers use 1/8 or 1/16 mil mylar as a base for the tissue.

[@maxfliart]

+RunFast64 Thx. She came in at 54 grams but needed 24g of ballast !! Rubber was two loops of 3/16" x 40"....which is another 20g. So AUW was 98g. She uses a 10" white EB prop. Marvelous propellors!!

[@RunFast64]

+maxfliart Yeah, Spitfire's have a really short nose. The empennage can't be light enough. Free flight is still one of the last few places where modeling passion and expertise from days gone by still lives on.

[@maxfliart]

+RunFast64 I couldn't agree more. Each model is a challenge, and each has a unique character, which makes the process of trimming even more rewarding...when they finally (and hopefully) start to rail.

[@silverman6019]

what kind of hing did you use in your rudder and how do you adjuat it when needed

[@maxfliart]

Thx for the feedback. I use the thin aluminum from soda cans. Depending on the size of the stab or rudder, 3/8" squares work well. Maybe 2 or 3 for each section. Just slot the stab with an Xacto, and slip the hinge in half way, and lace some CA glue on it. Then slip on the fin, and put more glue on the hinge. Gentle pressure with your hand and fingers allows you to nudge the fin in one direction or the other.

[@angelcorrea3508]

once again way cool thanks for sharing your time with us , your a god send ,there like no one like you where i'm at , who has the love or the time for this hobby, [ know that i've buttered you up lets get to the good stuff ] you have a grassy field to launch and land planes safely' [ lucky you ] unfortunetly i'm sorounded by tumble weeds and cactus trees in other words the desert no joke. my qwestion to you is , can tissue paper be repaired easely i've nevered seen anyone do a repair job on tissue before [ have'nt googled that yet ] or should i jump into plastic , i'm assoming that tissue beats plastic per weight and if so how much , is the amount used overall on the build realy going to afect the flite proforment. advantage is plastic stronger vs tissue and if so which plastic product, i'm sure someone allready figured this out which plastics used to cover planes , let me go on the internet to get some names of diferent plastics, i hope someone can give name of plastic that is as light and stronger than tissue...

[@Uts9000]

when the prop stops and reverses it act like a speed brake, can you do anything about that. Fun to watch, thanks

[@maxfliart]

That's an illusion, the strobe effect from the camera. The prop continues to free-wheel after the power is gone.

[@c150gpilot]

Low wing models can safely fly left. If they want to, let them! (ff modeler for 65 of my 75 years)

[@impavitus]

One question, I'm trying to build a p51 and the instructions say don't use paint if it's to be a flying model. How did you get yours to looks so good? Is that just little pieces of tissue paper cut out for the color scheme? Thanks

[@maxfliart]

Mine started out with white Japanese tissue, but then I air-brushed the thin paint onto the tissue, creating the color scheme. As I recall, there were ten colors !! It's a very lightweight approach, rather than brushing on paint...which might be the concern via the instructions. But some flyers do cover the model with an appropriately colored tissue as a base, then add various pieces of tissue to finish the color scheme. It's a good way to go, but I prefer using paint in most cases.

[@impavitus]

@@maxfliart thanks. That sounds like a good idea

[@yassermasood3423]

How do you stick the gurney and take it off again? Not glue I think?

[@maxfliart]

I use a glue stick. Rubbing alcohol dissolves it if you need to remove it.

[@yassermasood3423]

maxfliart To remove it can we use nailpolish remover?

[@СашаЛадиняк]

Hello, you model took my breath away. I am just a beginner and have built 2 models so far. I would be happy to get some advice from you. You said you used the rubber band 3 times longer than the peg distance. I tried the same thing in one of my models, but when the rubber was unwound, it made a lot of knots and the CG was changed, so at the end I had a kind of falling with style instead of gliding. Any ways how to cope with it?

[@maxfliart]

yes, there's a very simple and effective way of fixing your CG concerns...it's called "forward braiding". If for example, your rubber has two loops (four strands), you merely wind the unfolded loop around 150 turns, then fold it over to create two loops. The forward winds will make the rubber wrap around itself, creating tension. Once you install this motor into your model, wind it up a bit, then release the prop...the motor will unwind but with tension...allowing the model to maintain the same CG that you had during the power portion. In other words, it shrinks the resting length of the motor significantly. The number of forward braids wound in should be adjusted according to each motor or model. If you put too many in, the tension will be too strong, preventing the free-wheeler from working. Ideally, you want to motor to sag slightly, but not rest on the bottom of the fuselage.

[@СашаЛадиняк]

thanks a lot, I am eager to try it.

[@wagner24314]

what kit is it or the plans it would make a great rc

[@maxfliart]

+wagner24314 The plan was of my own design, starting with a good 3-view.

[@TexMechsRobot]

Very nice video! I'm still trying to learn how to fly the plane I built. How are you attaching the gurney flaps so that they are easily removable without damaging the plane?

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Justin. I use a small amount of UHU glue stick. If it holds too tightly, I then float on some isopropyl alcohol, and it pops right off. The alcohol doesn't affect the finish...but it's always good to test first.

[@TexMechsRobot]

That's the method I used to cover the plane. I guess I'd just need to be careful about how much I use for the tabs. There's so much to learn to have success with this hobby.

[@maxfliart]

Yeah, it doesn't take much. I usually start with 1/32" x 1/16" sticks, about 2" long. Then add more layers as needed. Can also shorten the sticks to tweak it a bit and lessen their effectiveness. I love using them to dial in a ship.

[@TexMechsRobot]

Well I glued my elevator and rudder on tight so this method is probably what I'll use. I'll be able to adjust thrust angle and weight as well. Waiting for the weather is going to be tough though. I'm in the Seattle area and we're known for our rainy days.

[@maxfliart]

OK. Then very thin strips are the way to go. Even card stock. I have a good friend in Portland, so I know of your weather woes through his flying experiences.

[@JongAmPark]

It's unbelievable that you can wind the rubber like 1000+ times. When I built spitfire (guillow) the max is 140 or something. And when I wound more the rubber was cut and the fuselage was broken... Also because the rubber band is inside it can't be loosely connected like those for non scale ones.

[@jjs3287]

Would love to get some ultra light RC components in that frame.

[@JohnSmith-tw3rw]

When you launch it it appears to fly straight and then turns left, whey doesn't it turn left straight away or is there a timing mechanism on the rudder. Also the prop doesn't seem to spin so ridiculously fast as you release it, but rather steadily for the flight, who is that controlled.Please advise.

[@maxfliart]

I wish I had a concrete answer about the straight away launch, but I suspect it's because the ship if right on the edge of wanting to go right...which for this model is disastrous. One would think that the more torque, the more it'd want to go left, but instead, on this evening at least, it was playing games with me. I've since learned it needs a tad left rudder, but I do check it before every session. Regarding the prop, it's simply a great prop...with what appears to be the correct rubber combination. It's a 10" white EB prop, which is available at some of the sources linked in the above text. I use two loops of 3/16" x 40", which won't overpower the model, but instead, it seems to be in the cruise mode right from the start. I'm in love with the way this model flies, and wish it would translate to all of my models, but as we all know, each are individuals with their own characteristics and tendencies.

[@uropygid]

Curse you, Red Baron!. Curse you!

[@cloudstreets1396]

Looks just a hair tail heavy.