286BHP CUNA 2.0 TDI VW GOLF MK7 GTD - PERFORMANCE ROAD TEST

[@jimfastlane28]

Imagine how much quicker it would be to 60 without a million air fresheners hanging off the mirror....

[@deonhrupnarain]

hahahahahah

[@makavelithedon]

each one of those adds 10hp

[@martiniv8924]

Those are soaked in Diesel !

[@Billydevito]

That car must really stink to need all those air fresheners.

[@richardstewart8694]

Good catch. And in the US the police could pull him over for that.

[@Ciaran334]

Great video on the GTD. Who cares what it cost, any car person that will understand that. The owner of the carr must love the GTD Golfs, now hes got one of the fastest GTD's out there. Great work.

[@fightlifeuk]

Am I the only one watching this waiting for him to eventually floor it

[@RAWMORRISMUSCLE]

Stop gassing and get your foot down 😂😂

[@dpwv8636]

Lol 😂 I’m like ok …. Now 😒 he’s gonna foot it …. Now nope 😐

[@Andydiggs91]

What a great car you've made. Really appreciated explaining what troubles and problems you faced and how you overcame them (Y)

[@ryanp6138]

We didn't quite succeed, we wanted over 300hp!

[@russellbrown8377]

I had a quick bora tdi a few years ago, with many darkside goodies, quality parts, but skimped out on the turbo and used a hybrid instead of one the darkside kits. Wished i hadnt. Hybrid wasnt too bad but not as good as a gtb would have been. But the knowledge and effort that these guys have is top notch, i was totally blown away when i went to visit at how well equipped and how modern their site is. This video also just shows the tip of the iceberg of ryan and scotts knowledge. Always interesting your videos, and youre well overdue getting onto youtube!! Many more interesting videos to come hopefully

[@ryanp6138]

Thanks Russ, it's not too late to get your TDi fix!

[@russellbrown8377]

@@ryanp6138 ive got an allroad 2.5tdi now, been off the road gor a while, while i get a new fuel pump fitted ££££££ will be in touch perhaps about a few mods for that soon!

[@ryanp6138]

@@russellbrown8377 SRS should have a pump from the engine we took from my dad's allroad when we converted to a 1.9 PD

[@russellbrown8377]

Yeah i got the original one rebuilt by diesel bob... wanted reliability, least i know it should be good for a few years, you never know with a used one. Car wasnt the cheapest one out there either so not happy as it is but oh well. Will get there in the end!

[@russellbrown8377]

Thats interesting too...1.9 conversion! Good idea. Thanks for the offer also

[@AdamNajak1]

Patiently waiting for the next 3.0 TDI V6 video

[@ryanp6138]

Next week most likely!

[@karlkiernan6863]

Really interesting video series. It was very informative to listen to how you managed to get so much power from that engine. Also , interesting to learn about the intake valves ports being in series .

[@ryanp6138]

It's not a good design!

[@kilner79]

@@ryanp6138 hi again is there any newer vag diesel engine worth buying been looking for a new car and all the later stuff just seems to not be reliable i was looking at an a6 avant 3.0 2014 onwards but have seen the chain guides and such are braking at just 60k miles really duno what to do

[@TheOnlyMrSaver]

I have the same engine in audi a6, apparently there are no options for turbo available... I'm stock with the bv43...😢

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Drop us an email to [e-mail] with reg/vin and we can see if we have anything for you

[@stump3514]

My 7,200 lb truck does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds on an unpreped surface in 2wd. 505 HP and 1020 lb of torque. It’s doesn’t get even close to 45 MPG though. I want one of these little cars lol

[@veritya3]

Blur out the speedo and take it to 60... show us what it can do

[@wastelander6341]

I got 154mph from my remapped 2.0 TDI MK3 Octavia vRS. So imagine the possibility with the S3 intercooler, GTD2877 Turbo, darkskide induction kit, 02Q Dual mass with SRE performance clutch and obviously the short shifter!!! £££££££££

[@laurentiurosu683]

@@wastelander6341 you on fb mk3 vrs owners club? If not, what are you wanting for? 👍

[@wastelander6341]

@@laurentiurosu683 I'm not on Facebook. Too many impurities on there lol.

[@laurentiurosu683]

@@wastelander6341 I've been told you don't exist if no Facebook 🤣🤣

[@wastelander6341]

@@laurentiurosu683 I am aware of this lol. I must be non existent.

[@kb8729]

on the open road that will be fast when its in gear/ i have a mapped GTD i guess circa 215/217bhp they do a nice slow drive or nice quick one.

[@jayjatt9809]

What’s 0-60 in this ? Should be a good match with a golf r wouldn’t it ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

it was high 5s. Not off the line, mid range maybe.

[@aadrianlee]

I wold be very interested to know how much a build like this would cost ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

10k, but for half it's still 95% as fast!

[@TheArSeNaL3000]

@@DarksideDevelopments how much power does 5k get it to then? Would also be interested

[@stefangiurgila7807]

​@@TheArSeNaL3000Around safe 250hp, this is just doin some basic mods and different turbo as said in previous video. For more power the fuel pump gotta be upgraded

[@karldyson7466]

Great video. Nice power increase there. My 2015 Octavia VRS DSG did 100mph in 16s with a DTUK box. That thing is another level. I take it they are the same engine and turbo setup. Also much nicer audio, keep em coming!!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Thanks :) Yes pretty much the same engine. This car with a DSG would be even faster!

[@dbogdan17]

@@DarksideDevelopments by a big margin. I believe you were limited because of the clutch also even though it's a upgraded clutch as you stated. Was really expecting a rolling 100-200 kmh or 60-180 kmh.

[@ryanp6138]

@@dbogdan17 the clutch in this has plenty headroom. We did a video of this car, it's on our channel.

[@s2upid]

Out of curiosity, will a 210hp CUNA be more or less fuel efficient than a 210hp CBBB? Both with deletes and all of that.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

likely more

[@s2upid]

@@DarksideDevelopments what power level on a CR190 would manage to keep EGT at a "safe" level, and not at (or near) the limiter?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

220hp at a push maybe.

[@ryanbrown4277]

My vrs 4x4 dsg needs booking

[@blacksparrow1818]

Will my 2020 Octavia TDI DSG (weighing at 1395kgs) be quicker with the same mods making about same power?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Would imagine it would be fairly similar, drop us an email to [e-mail] with reg/vin and we'll be able to give you estimated figures and parts we do for your vehicle

[@ericmartinez5633]

the infamous windows scratches. mine has the same shit. why do they get these?

[@mnl493x]

Great vid and results, nice dyno mode tip at the beginning too,

[@MrDiabolika97]

hello, have you had problems with the exhaust gas pressure sensor? by chance you have deleted it through the control unit? it should be the lambda probe

[@DarksideDevelopments]

All DPF cars have pressure sensor issues. They are easily erased when the Filter is removed.

[@MrDiabolika97]

@@DarksideDevelopments I already mount the downpipe, the original DPF has already been removed

[@ironlift2275]

Wonder what a dsg would have taken for 0-60 with those specs.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Low 5 high 4s?

[@ncjeans]

How much would this cost ? Very very tempted

[@joshuaelliot2020]

Over 10k

[@ncjeans]

Can’t be that much

[@joshuaelliot2020]

@@ncjeans 'tis I'm afraid Nick, he said in a reply to someone in the comments I'm sure. There's a lot of work to it as you can see from the video. Just buy a golf r, that's what I'm doing haha!

[@ryanp6138]

Mk6 GTD would have 350hp

[@JDMz]

@@ryanp6138 lmao

[@UltraZ00Mclan]

What would i need to upgrade inside my car if i was to think about going to a stage 2 remap? I have a VW GTD 16 plate ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Email us!

[@Larryloafer488]

Thinking about tickling my 18 plate R-line 2.0 Touran, nothing brutal, re-chip maybe?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Cheapest HP you can get!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

A custom remap is a good shout, they respond really well

[@Larryloafer488]

Darkside Developments Sounds tempting! How much! Thanks 👍

[@darksidedevelopments7200]

@@Larryloafer488 please email your reg. to [e-mail]

[@brokedirtbiker9426]

How do you get the oil temp on the gauge cluster

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Can be coded in through software

[@Partifyde]

great video

[@DowlingColm]

Hello Darkside. I'm having an issue with my 2014 GTD. The coolant is being pushed out of the expansion tank. Have you got any advice or knowledge on the subject?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Try a proper bleed with VCDS, if not you have head lift and it needs rebuilding!

[@DowlingColm]

@@DarksideDevelopments i was hoping this wouldn't be the case lol. Would I be OK to replace the head gasket and check for warping in the block and head. Is there any upgrade parts or preventative maintenance part you would recommend in this job other than 12.9 head bolts.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

@@DowlingColm You could try just bolts first but its pointless fitting a head you have not skimming IMO, its a ton of work. we do the 12.9 bolts but the last one we did pulled the threads out of the block!!

[@DowlingColm]

@@DarksideDevelopments Have you had engines where just changing the bolts out had rectified the problem. I'm afraid that it'll just return with a vengeance if I don't go and replace the gasket

[@DarksideDevelopments]

@@DowlingColm We fit the bolts before carrying out work as prevention is much cheaper than the cure. If you can do the work yourself its worth trying for the cost of the head bolts

[@jimbean9942]

Crinching at that poor rubber driven oil pump 😂

[@ch4mp5hd71]

Can this be done on the auto 8v boxes?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

yes

[@SuleymanGuzel06]

Hi friend , we have Leon 5f 1.6 TDI big turbo 1449 , dbn time 21 second is it normally?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

There are too many variables to say

[@SuleymanGuzel06]

@@DarksideDevelopments can you help me

[@westietech6275]

Love the channel and the work you guys do. Im not far away in Donny too. Keep it up. Subscribed 👍

[@manoskarrasadv]

Hallo i want to ask you your opinion about Turbo Blanket and exaust wraping?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It won't hurt but not essential

[@manoskarrasadv]

@@DarksideDevelopments Thank you for your answear,and another one question i want to make,i have a golf 6 gtd the car has reprogammed intake and have ordered from you the silicone elbow,i have read about the cpf 4 metering valve have you ghanged to a golf7 what is your opinion i can do the same thing to my car? the car now believe or not i have seen 246+ top speed in autobahn if the elbow and the metering valve helps we are going for250

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It might help, especially if you already have a limp mode issue!

[@jammieairlotte7092]

Do you use the recommended 5w30 oil still or do you go for something slightly thicker to give it more protection? I use 5w40 Quantum in my standard 2017 GTD

[@DarksideDevelopments]

5w30 should be fine!

[@shooterchip2733]

I have a gtd 7.5 2018 facelift and the recommended oil is longlife 0w30, its thiner than the 5w30 so what do yall suggest to me?

[@stevo2554]

Would you ever do a focus st diesel project ??

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We specialise in VAG and BMW diesels so we don't plan to.

[@JDMz]

It wouldn't last anyway. (Fix or repair daily)

[@cihans4923]

What oil are you Running?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Quantum Platinum

[@cihans4923]

@@DarksideDevelopments 5w40?

[@juanpedromolina1170]

What happens with fuel consumption if i upgrade the turbo? Thanks

[@ryanp6138]

Driven sensibly, it's pretty much the same!

[@JDMz]

It'll be the same. Unless you floor it lol. But then again if you have a new turbo it's best to have the car remapped aswell.

[@philrogers4535]

Great vid! Can a standard 64 plate 2.0 tdi (150) be tuned like this?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It costs a lot of money but it can be done

[@gt3076rCA]

Great videos! Very informative! Keep them coming!

[@fatwalletboy2]

Good going for the stick shift. Be interested to see how the same set up works with DSG.

[@gaycha6589]

Remapped Manual Golf Rs are notorious for slipping and frying clutches once they get above stage 2 (400ish). DSG esp Later 7spd is better proposition in petrol. Can only imagine that extra diesel torque will stress rest of drivetrain. Presume clutch was beefed up in this build.

[@Jay-zs6zb]

@@gaycha6589 6:30 he tells you it has an upgraded clutch

[@gaycha6589]

@@Jay-zs6zbI know, but sintered clutches are less smooth. less progressive in action, and although might slip less than OEM, they also las less time/ I had a 330cd with tuning box that ate clutches and diffs/ All aim syaing is that DSG is better for maps

[@jondonnelly3]

Funny thing is the forest of little trees used to be green, but coal turned them black.

[@ashwho-6319]

Hey mate just wondering if you changed the clutch? I’m getting a GTD manual soon and going to map it straight away to stage 1, will the clutch hold out stock for stage 1?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Stock clutch should be fine with a remap! We've had plenty in that have run well with it! In case you want to upgrade later, this particular one has a Sachs Clutch and Flywheel kit - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/sachs-2-0-tdi-6-speed-02q-dual-mass-flywheel-with-sachs-sre-performance-clutch-kit-for-ppd170-cr170.html

[@glubschii2310]

great car! How much money did you put in this?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Too much, stick to 250hp and no internals!

[@JohnnyType2]

id be interested in doing this but with the smaller turbo those figures for the 2260? low down were pretty impressive. now you know what you are doing would it be a bit cheaper to get the work done?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Tbh, we didn't charge this customer for any of the time taken to test, swap parts over and days of tuning. So he was charged what we would for anyone else. If you would like a full quote please email us - [e-mail] thanks

[@laurentiurosu683]

I read that these are CUNA engine. I have vrs tdi Cupa engine. What is different? I thought VAG put the same engine in all of them... Gtd, vrs, fr...? And what was the full cost of all these goodies? Mine is making 220hp and 511nm and is awesome... And also, what could we do to get those high oil temp down? Is it because of the exhaust temps transferring the heat around? Anyway good job guys!! Really impressed with how in to details you can go, like knowing all the parts measurements and everything! Amazing! Good job!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We are working on an oil cooler now. Its just a hot running engine for efficiency. CUPA is very similar, some emissions differences but nothing to affect what is spoken about in the video

[@davidharrison9732]

Seems to accelerate harder than my R , is the bhp quoted at the wheels?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Flywheel...

[@trevorwilliams1262]

Would Water/Methanol injection help with the high exhaust gas temps ? - You mentioned that high exhaust gas temps were a limiting factor in the previous video - another great video - keep em coming !

[@kolyakabmx]

Hi! Is it possible to bolt-on replace CP4.1 with CP4.2 pump?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Not without a lot of tuning

[@sirfurnish3828]

hi there can i ask the full cost of the build ? and how much would i be looking to get my mk6 gtd full upgrade

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Drop us an email with your UK Reg / VIN and we can send a quote. Completely different setup on the Mk6 Thanks

[@wastelander6341]

I need this on my octavia!

[@jasonhetherington6873]

I’ve got a 2014 gtd and would like mine re mapped how do I get in touch?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

You can get in touch here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/contact-us/#FORM

[@Account1746]

My standard one is 181 obviously, I think the 230ish at stage 1 would be more than enough

[@ryanp6138]

Watch the other video, they don't make 230

[@MY-mp6bq]

I have stage 1 230hp, stage 2 for dsg. The dsg tune is what shocked me the most tbh. Its so much better. Pulling from 100-150km is just big difference

[@mortenrasmussen1192]

Never seen them as low as 210-215 crank hp, and have been owner of 2 184hp engines. First just after protocol release in 2014, and now a Leon mk 3.5. No problem what so ever getting 225hp an above. They do that well, that even with stock hardware, you will see rail drain issues.

[@vIMONST3RIv]

I’m wanting my standard mk7 gtd remapped aswell, no idea how much it would cost though

[@SPIKE-0000]

So glad I've subbed..I could watch these vids all day....

[@kolyakabmx]

What engine code is it? And what is the power limit the stock block and pistons will handle?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

This was CUNA engine, the stock block and pistons are rated higher than we achieved but if anything like the MK6 common rails good for well over 300bhp Full spec list can be seen here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/vw-golf-gtd-2-0-tdi-cr-cuna-286bhp/

[@kolyakabmx]

@@DarksideDevelopments thanks for your answer! And what is the stock block and pistons capability of MK7, EA288 engine?

[@ryanp6138]

@@kolyakabmx much more than the head we think!

[@kolyakabmx]

@@ryanp6138 definitely you'r right, but what if someone will decide to fit a head from bi-turbo 240ps (CUAA) with all intake/exhaust parts to this block? It goes from 240 to 300ps/600Nm on stage1 software, could be more

[@yeivi1000]

Original pistons and bearings?

[@ryanp6138]

Yes

[@anthonyshackleton6178]

What would it take to get a mk7 gtd to stage 2 and what bhp would I end up with anyone know?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Drop us an email with your power goal and we can quote - [e-mail]

[@anthonyshackleton6178]

@@DarksideDevelopments will do thank you

[@ntshembo]

The next upgrade would be a DSG + 4motion... :D just engine swap into a Golf R

[@TherealAlibaba]

Bet the customer would know easily recognise by the amount of magic trees.

[@bilalbayoumi4618]

Must smell nice in the car!!!

[@xronis]

Hello from Greece! I wonder if the bitdi engine,the dsg gearbox and the 4motion system from a passat/tiguan will fit in a Gtd...!!!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

There is a good chance it will but a lot of work!

[@xronis]

@@DarksideDevelopments yeah but think about the results...and the costumers that are willing to do it...(i'm possibly one of them)300ps from a2.0 diesel engine,4motion,dsg in a golf.thats a pocket rocket!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

I agree the results would be good but I don't think we will have many customers willing the pay the bill. The engines are not readily available either

[@xronis]

@@DarksideDevelopments you know better!if I do it here in greece ill show you the results!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

@@xronis sounds good :)

[@Kraken2681994]

Sounds great inside would love to hear it from the exterior ?? I take it you can only put this power through the manual ? Not the dsg ?

[@ryanp6138]

No videos outside I'm afraid. The DSG is likely stronger!

[@Kraken2681994]

@@ryanp6138 i thought i heard something about slip from the box.

[@BaldBogey]

Great video! One question though, how do you deal with the new DPF rules? Isn't it illegal to remove or tamper with it in any way. Can the gtd still be tuned to this level, whilst still retaining the useless DPF?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Short answer, no. The kit won't fit with the DPF in place and the filter its self will cause a restriction. This is always done the customers digression. We always say it is the customers responsibility to ensure they comply with rules and laws relating to their home country too.

[@RAND00MI]

Is there a way to Disable ESC fully on a 2012 Volkswagen Passat 4Motion 2.0tdi? I havent been able to find any1 who could do that, it has something to do with Trw Abs pump.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Its likely you would have to interrupt a sensor like the accelerometer so the ABS still works

[@aqib2000]

Darkside Developments interrupt the steering angle sensor

[@ryanp6138]

@@aqib2000 I wouldn't do the angle sensor as the ABS won't work correctly, ESP will only stop if you do accelerometer or something else esp related.

[@aqib2000]

Ryan P fair point I should have been clear about that. We do this all the time on Bosch systems to turn off DSC etc.

[@ryanp6138]

@@aqib2000 what cars are you playing with?

[@liamanderson7003]

Any need for all those air fresheners 😂

[@ryanp6138]

It's to mask the bull I was talking

[@liamanderson7003]

@@ryanp6138 story of my life 🤣🤣🤣

[@roybm3124]

4 pieces and i thought 1 smelled strong 😅

[@dhcp1rx18]

does it smoke ?

[@ryanp6138]

Not really!

[@chrisharding5783]

Decent 👍

[@jimfastlane28]

Don't see the point, just get an R. I have the 245 GTI Performance and it struggles for traction.

[@Shiioru]

Well, the R got the 4Motion All wheel drive from VW. It's pretty good at not struggling with traction

[@marveysingh1256]

jimfastlane28 what tyres you got

[@jimfastlane28]

marvey singh Got the standard Bridgestones. They are ok but not fantastic

[@marveysingh1256]

jimfastlane28 yeah you using potenzas? You need Michelin’s or Goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 3 they change the way the car drives! Got rid of my Bridgestones on front!

[@EmanuelFuchs]

Acceleration is weird. Don't like the way it handles the front wheels.

[@rambo9130d]

Try 315bhp 440lb/ft from a 1.9 CDTI 2.7 bar boost, 140iq, 2000 bar rail pressure.

[@ryanp6138]

Look at our other projects

[@rambo9130d]

@@ryanp6138 post a video please mate

[@MrSuperTolli]

100-200 12,6😅 My 184 @ 220 drives 20-21s😭

[@ersincelebi5376]

Captain Awesome my 1.6 TDI leon 5f 100-200 time 17.6 second 😂

[@MrSuperTolli]

@@ersincelebi5376 of course gps measured and stock 105/110 hp, yeah? 😅

[@ersincelebi5376]

Captain Awesome stock 105hp but my car not stock.

[@MrSuperTolli]

@@ersincelebi5376 i thought that. Stock is your time a dream😅 What's your tune?

[@proracingpr4770]

At least i dont want to see cars like you posted spinning up yo 100 kmh do to deag strip or what ever and make a proper test

[@dragansarcevic.vrs245de]

nice..

[@michaelsingh925]

Traction is the main issue and the sear cost off tuning a diesel past stage 1. Pointless

[@ryanp6138]

It's not pointless to tune a diesel past stage 1. It can be more economical overall if the right path is taken

[@michaelsingh925]

@@ryanp6138 so i have a 2012 seat leon fr . Standard 170bhp cr engine. Now with a map running 227bhp. Its also more economical as you mentioned with the map. Now break down the cost to get more power past stage 1 ??? Bigger turbo, downpipes, exhaust, cooling etc !! Darkside do a kit but like your talking 2 k easy. Too expensive pal

[@DarksideDevelopments]

@@michaelsingh925 Ryan P is the one talking in the video!! its more than 2k but you dont have 227hp either!

[@michaelsingh925]

@@DarksideDevelopments correction 223.5 hp @ 4046 And engine torque 325.6lb ft @ 2480rpm

[@kenrossaukrsa]

Big pity it’s a manual gearbox

[@ryanp6138]

DSG takes out the driver error!

[@donRageme]

Automatic better isit? 😂

[@rorywilliams549]

Dsg comes with launch control

[@xlewis1209x]

Golf R for me or nothing 👍🏽

[@Kyle-jn7or]

I wish VW made a Golf R TDI

[@dacyphaa]

How many air fresheners?!? Someone at darkside smells like shit! 😈

[@ryanp6138]

It's my breath

[@670fastcrf]

How bad can that car smell to need a Forrest of black ice... ha ha

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Bad

[@jimmyspices8848]

Imagine if he spoke a bit quicker..

[@Pr0vost]

Set playback speed to 1.25/1.5 if you want

[@Samg95]

Why’s that important?