29er Clash: Specialized Enduro 29 VS Trek Slash 9.9 RSL VS Evil Wreckoning X1 | MBR

[@joehasagolf]

Why even mention that you bottomed the Trek out if you hadn't even set it up for your weight? typical

[@alanramirez7368]

When all 3 bikes forks are more expensive than your own bike 😂😂

[@timpfastatfifty6493]

Not sure how the Spaz loses a point against the other two when the positives and negatives are evaluated. It appears to be the most complete and versatile package.

[@joeldh7567]

I've got one. It is. It is so stable. It feels like a mini-DH bike. But it is also plenty nimble. Thing is just sick!

[@Blooben]

How can you complain about the spec on the Wreckoning when you choose the X1 build rather than the X01 Eagle build to test, when the other two are the higher build? The top end builds for all three bikes are about the same price, so the Wreckoning in that build must be cheaper than the other two, but that wasn't mentioned. *Cue logical and unseen reasoning in response*.

[@forrestchristian2616]

TheOrangutank yeah! I noticed that too! Sort of disappointing.

[@smalerider1727]

Evil Wreckoning x01 build $5399(not tested eagle $6899), Trek 9.9 RSL $7999, Specialized Enduro $8500. Yeah seems legit.... Not establishment bias at all.

[@d.l.918]

I think it's the manufacturer's decision which of his builds he provides to testers. But yeah, it'd be fair to note that the bike sells about 2/3rds the price of its contestants.

[@MBRmagazine]

True, unfortunately this model wasn't available at the time. In the end, though, it didn't really matter because it still won the test!

[@Blooben]

MBR magazine Thanks for explaining that. Great video btw. Can you do a short travel comparison video including the Evil The Following? I'd really like to see how that compares to the competition (Ibis Ripley, Santa Cruz Tallboy etc).

[@roroflowazoro]

the trek looks beutiful

[@marksmith7647]

The Evil the Wreckoning wins because it is the better bike out of the three. There's no point in keep whining and winging at MBR about geometry this and BB that. They rode all three bikes in a time period and came up with their conclusions. Its that simple! Anyways, I very much doubt that 95% of the people commenting even own one of the three bikes tested or will ever own one in the future. I own an Evil Wreckoning and i demo'd the Trek Slash 9.9. The Evil won in my opinion hence why i built one up.

[@d.l.918]

I'm waiting till next year, because I got a feeling there will be a YT Capra then and that it is going to be a 29er... If not, the Wreckoning is high on my short list.

[@marksmith7647]

Can't see YT doing a 29er capra when they have the jeffsy. Think canyon and radon will do some big travel 29ers though....

[@d.l.918]

According to reviews the Jeffsy 29 sits firmly in the "trail bike" category, it's not a mini enduro like maybe the Santa Cruz Hightower is. I don't think a 29er Capra would hurt Jeffsy sales. I mean they just released the Jeffsy 27 which clearly blurrs the lines between their lineup already, especially in it's 160mm version. YT have a "progressive" image, they're not the company to lack behind, especially when it comes to competetive racing. And I think a 29er enduro is a must if they want to be serious in that department. Heck, even29er downhill bikes are popping up everywhere now.

[@marksmith7647]

Due to recent events in DH i would have to agree with you about most major players in the industry working on 29er enduro and even full dh rigs now.

[@chaddwick25]

Thanks for doing this video......I have been waiting for something like this for a while. I would love to see a short travel 29er comparison video as well . Ibis Ripley LS vs Evil Following vs Kona process 111 would be nice . Thanks Again

[@TheLoamRanger]

Nice comparison guys. Interestingly enough though, when I did a back to back comparison between the Specialized Enduro 29 and the new Norco Range 29, I felt I was riding super high on the Norco, but felt much more 'in the bike' on the Enduro. I didn't know the geo specs at the time, but I was assuming that the Enduro had a nice low bottom bracket, just going from the ride feel. Keep up the good work!

[@martyhammond7420]

I put 170mm cranks on my Enduro 29 and 27.5 wheels, never have felt it was too high. But I hate pedal strikes since they can be extremely hazardous to your health, I will take that extra clearance any day and get used to riding slightly higher over riding on my face downhill.

[@bergo1980]

Marty Hammond how did it run with 170 fork and plus tyres . I’m looking at frame only to do a build on

[@ironore8677]

I got rid of my stump jumper because the bottom bracket was too low and couldn't pedal it through anything. I like the slightly higher bb of the Enduro

[@patryka11]

By far the best review I have seen. Great comparison and I thank you very much indeed. !!!

[@locotudor5594]

I'd love 1 of these evils even tho its not every1's fave choice. It's my dream bike anyways.

[@davehuffstetler1786]

you should have used the wreckonings X01 Eagle build kit, its still better priced than the others and has better specs.

[@maverick2242]

So what I don't get in this test, is u have the top spec Enduro, the Top spec Slash and bottom spec that Evil offer X1, yet they offer a X01 Eagle spec which would address the negatives mentioned in this test, though not mentioned and would clearly compete on a gearing level with the other 2! Also why would u need a 2.5 in the rear, 2.3 for 29er is more than enough, run a DH casing if u need more protection or want to run lower pressure, I don't see the need for 2.5" in the rear, total overkill! I'm a fan of all 3 bikes myself. Otherwise a good test.

[@KD-mm3li]

About that sworks enduro in the 29er verson. I have the elite model of enduro with 29er and my bb is even taller since its a 2016 model. Would dropping to 27.5 make a difference? Feels like im wheeling a lifted truck on the trail.

[@patryka11]

What was the shock preasure at the end in Trek? I have similar problem. Shock is much too soft.

[@jefftormey]

I don't know why they say the Slash suspension is tricky to set up. I just bought one and it's a breeze to set up with the Rock Shock shock and awesome Lyric fork. Unbelievably awesome bike. Super lively. I got the $5k version and it's a fantastic value.

[@jefftormey]

I did swap the dropper post for a 150mm version

[@MBRmagazine]

Jeff Tormey it's the Fox Float X2 that takes time to set up.

[@ltj999]

Hmm yet no Yeti SB5.5? Seems like a really natural inclusion in this test....

[@FoVision]

Mike M Agreed!

[@porschepaul295]

Yeah that's the one I'd have liked to see in this test

[@DarrenRedfernPOV]

i have a yeti sb5.5 and i have had an evil following and the yeti is 100 times better. put a push industries 11/6 on it and you have a weapon believe me. but i do like the trek slash

[@3rdeddie]

Maybe the rear travel excluded it from the test? It has "only" 140mm.

[@joshsaiz8221]

no one cares about a bike that cost 2x what it should mate....plus long travel bikes..140mm lol might as well be a XC bike

[@AdamDemas]

Wow! I stumbled upon this video and can't believe what an excellent job you guys did filming (production) and researching for it! I'm baffled that I'm not already subscribed, but I'm still kinda new to the MTB scene. Thanks for this!

[@MBRmagazine]

Adam Demas thanks! Glad you liked it. 👍

[@pablomills1363]

Would have liked to have seen the Yeti sb5.5 in this test

[@JacksonFTW]

They couldn't put it in because it would just win.

[@harrychilcott9561]

this was an amazing video. thanks for it

[@mikeep666]

Ohlins fork is sluggish but stable. Don't understand. Not returning quick enough/packing up? Both slash and Evil have stupid seat angles. If you have long legs, weight will be way too far back.

[@MBRmagazine]

Yes, the seat angles aren't ideal. We did say that the Enduro is the only bike with a good seated climbing position. Ohlins fork is overdamped for lighter riders. If you're over 90kg you'll probably be fine though.

[@danrashtizadeh1]

YETI SB130 is 1st place, then PIVOT Trail429 at 2nd place, then SCOTT GENIUS & ORBEA RALLON both tied at 3rd place.

[@chairmanmao3885]

Is one of the riders wearing the GIRO flat shoes? How does he like the shoes?

[@thomasmikkelsen9111]

these guys don't not know what they are talking about. if this a a DH performance test then yes this would be the case. The S-Works is a Enduro specific bike, it has a high bottom bracket to avoid pedal strikes, I really like my S-works so far because of its ability to be peddled while ripe'n flat sections in races

[@michaellazzell4296]

I need some help on what bike to buy

[@toon_8552]

Great video thanks, would you take one over the 650b 2015 Santa Cruz Nomad?

[@OneWheelLess]

That evil is a sick bike, I'd love it in a park, but I thinkthe spesh is more well-rounded. The trek is pretty typical trek, is what it is, they've got plenty of money for r+d, but it would be nice to see them work on durability and value for the money.

[@leonhalter9229]

just bought the slash! #noregrets

[@josephlinski2643]

What's your intro song, would rlly like to know.

[@markl1910]

What's the difference between an enduro bike and a trail bike?

[@alemendes9679]

Mark L travel and geometry

[@mikeep666]

You need googles for an enduro bike.

[@gabrieledalessio6707]

you are the best tester.

[@ryanriehl7188]

Wreckoning X01 with a Push upgrade. Now test them.

[@roostville3909]

But can they roost?

[@roostville3909]

Haha thanks TheEdirty6. Plenty of roosts and content is on its way!

[@rigorhead01]

RoostVille I subscribed to your channel as well! Bring the roost!!!

[@roostville3909]

Cheers Hollis Prince. It's coming soon

[@tj29er]

"and not simply because of that funky color"? lol what would you call the s-works?

[@ilikewasabe]

cant afford it but man this is a great watch! and great bikes! mtb porn

[@thedogfatherdogtraining3591]

Scoring a bike down based on not setting it up properly for the rider? TREK should do a video on your review...

[@neilk22]

Why has climbing ability become an important or discussed attribute for an enduro bike? I read the scores 7:8:9 IMO

[@Step_bro951]

Simply Trek... Extended FULL WARRANTY available, Fox Kashima coated fork...come one, anyone can change out the seat,bars and post

[@ratsac]

Whaaa? So many negatives pointed out about the Trek and the Evil and they still get a higher score than the Spesh?

[@germi1]

Very good video! I would like to see how these bikes compared to a Liteville 101 MK1. The geometries are very close and Liteville' suspension design gives a lot more travel than the numbers tell, much like the case of Yetis with the infinity link. Great stuff!

[@antrace92]

great comparison!

[@xxlolxx3906]

I think you should make a video on the best suspension forks

[@albertcol]

None of these bikes come with a ring bell as standard... not interested!

[@MBRmagazine]

Alberto Ovalle good point! But the free hubs are kinda noisy enough to do the job instead!

[@jmanswat2457]

Hmmm... Would've skipped the trek and probably specialized in this lineup

[@chocokuma4327]

no nukeproof mega?

[@MBRmagazine]

Look out for a video about the Mega 290 Pro very soon.

[@jarmay243]

Why not include some good bikes in the 29er Clash!!

[@jarmay243]

Its like the tier 2 bike shootout!!!!!!!

[@daveandmerlin]

When are you chaps gonna test the Orange stage 5 and 6 ?

[@MBRmagazine]

daveandmerlin not sure - we'll have to put them on the list.

[@smattgoss]

daveandmerlin why orange bikes can't compete with theses

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

Good stuff guys!

[@its.charlie.1]

do a contest for the best enduro bike under 4000£ plss

[@Muddyfox47]

yeah please - hardly anyone can afford these overpriced bikes

[@misamisatv]

These bikes are DEFINITELY overpriced!!!

[@MTB_CRZY]

they're definitely NOT overpriced. these bikes are made for the people who are on the trails almost everyday and who are sponsered by companies who help them out when it comes to the price. not to mention, if you win with one of these bikes and the races they compete in have the sponsors there to witness it... youre in for a really big sponsership. otherwise... just get a better job!

[@forrestchristian2616]

carol teodoru a sort of good one is the airborne plague! Check it out: airbornebicycles.com/products/plague-27-5-fs-enduro

[@misamisatv]

Do you mean to say these bikes have the same amount of engineering and tech found in a modern motorcycle? Motorbikes have internal combustion and thousands more moving parts to justify their price. The materials used to develop and manufacture a bicycle don't even come close. These bikes are overpriced for artificial reasons, and not for realistic ones.

[@d.l.918]

I'm pretty sure the Trek's handlebar simply needed to be rotated forward a bit.

[@matiasn.matusjaramillo9181]

why are some hubs so "noisy"?

[@alemendes9679]

Matias Nicolàs they are noisy because of the mechanism

[@keaty1984]

Price would have Been nice..

[@MBRmagazine]

keaty1984 good point, apologies. They are in the description though.

[@MrCaiofern]

the best review ever

[@josephlupien]

Is the evil truly better that the 9.9. Hard to believe

[@jzy0104]

Trek's design looks a lot better.

[@willmcelroy8176]

Should have included the Yeti sb5.5

[@cburgz3697]

Wreckoning isn't the best spec he says!?!?!?!?! But if you look at these 3 bikes geos over the last 5 years they all look like wreckoning specs. Lololol Seems to me most of these bike manufacturers are following evil and yeti.

[@djsubliminalreeve]

Why Ami looking at bikes I could never afford unless paying over 3 years it more

[@johnnybikesalot]

Lets all just pretend we didn't hear the narrator say "streets ahead"

[@lesterma1608]

All the tests are done in Europe what's with that?

[@MBRmagazine]

We're based in the UK, that's the simple reason!

[@mwinner101]

A boutique bike winning? I'm shocked. (Sarcasm)

[@d.l.918]

I think the Evil is actually the least expensive of the three.

[@mwinner101]

Could be, but typical for reviews. They would really be stumped if it was Yeti vs Transition vs Evil. I guess all three would win.

[@d.l.918]

I thought the review was so-so anyways. 1. The Enduro has the same bb height as the Slash, so it's either a problem with both bikes or it isn't. 2. I am pretty sure the Bontrager bar just needs to be rotated to the front and the ends are not dipping down anymore. 3. First he says the Trek doesn't feel like it had less travel than the other two and a minute later he tells us that they needed volume spacers and increase pressure to keep it from bottoming out frequently. I know "bottoming out frequently" doesn't necessarily mean " too little travel" but they are not completely independent either.

[@MBRmagazine]

We're not sure boutique or not boutique means much at these prices!

[@MBRmagazine]

Donald Trump's gargantuan scrotum the BB heights are not the same. The Enduro is higher - see other comment for details - we measured the geometry rather than rely on the manufacturer's figures. As we do with all our tests. Cheers

[@jackschreuder5657]

I miss the evil undead I'll never sell mine

[@superlauhea]

Yeti sb55c is da.Best

[@windsurfer912]

so good that they didn't test it! The yeti is a beast bike! best climber out there!!

[@niplo2]

But can you huck to flat?

[@MBRmagazine]

That is the ultimate test of any bike and all pass with flying colours!

[@Thoma1100]

I would sell a kidney but I can't because of my pkysistic kidney disease.

[@d.l.918]

It doesn't necessarily have to be *your* kidney. If you sell someone else's your choice is limited to the EVIL though, lol.

[@jrgenbeyerstrmquist9033]

Straight downtube = Lighter, Stiffer, and stronger? Well, not stronger...That has nothing to de with the shape of the downtube...only the material

[@ColetraneMusic]

Agreed, KnockBlock is overengineering akin to Cannondale. Fixing a problem we don't have.

[@ben_pedelty]

sworks imo

[@kye40]

this video just told me that these 3 most expensive bikes aren't worth it...

[@guyfromCO]

Radon Swoop 170 FTW!

[@maverick2242]

Why would you ride wide tires in mud, you want to slice through mud, 2.3 is more than enough on the rear of a 29, Fat tiers are for nubs

[@hellboy8328]

So basically they are over priced pieces of shit just what I thought too

[@maverick2242]

Eeeeeeee vol

[@chagchagmoko9014]

Specialized is ugly looking bike. The frame look hedious.

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

would not waste a dime on a 29er unless xc only and thats a maybe. i dont like xc anymore, trail/enduro is the sweet spot. 26 rear and 27.5 front and a bit taller fork in most situations. the rest of the bikes are just a waste of time.

[@williamcawthra1629]

mjs1231 If you expect to do any techy uphill, 29er is almost a must. 27.5 at the least. Even with 27.5, sharp and fast uphill turns are sluggish compared to the snappy 29er

[@mikeep666]

Have you tried riding a modern 29er? "your mind is like a parachute, it only works when open" I demoed a hightower and was really impressed. Only a bit of a handful on tight/techie terain, but otherwise great fun and daft fast.

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

i have 3 29ers, 2 ht 29ers 2 fs 2 fs 27.5 1 29 fs converted to 27.5 wheelset and rode both 1 dh 27.5 all current goe chassis with 64 to 68 head angles xc 29 fs is too heavy fs 29 not as good when rider is 220 lbs or more boost adds weight to compensate for 29 which adds weight 1 dh bike w big travel runs 27.5 front and 26 rear and i will say again fs 29er is there for what? nothing, its pointless. larger, sit higher, has more material lol pointless and where are all the 29ers at rampage ????? last rampage winner..... b semenuk won on a 26er. hmmmm fs 29er huh? ya no.

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

29 in fs is nothing but marketing magic. period. pushing product to add revanue and false choice. tip of the day.........human body adapts to wheelsize. 26 27.5 29 doesnt matter. 20 mins into a ride and you will realize it just doesnt matter. you can buy a fs 29er full carbon for about 11 grand and maybe win a few xc races if your a pretty small guy, say 140 ish max. beyond that ultr niche they are pointless.

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

and who are purchasing full carbon fs 11 grand 29er xc race bike????? corporate sponsors only. privateers cant even afford those. so what are you hyping????? well to the trained eye and mind your buying into the industry lies via mass bike propaganda and marketing magic. nothing more.

[@ralfbeswick]

where are these trails!!!

[@gweflj]

Great review.