2L Mini Diving Tank, Is It Worth It?

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Christian Wedoy

Christian Wedoy

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@waylonk2453
@waylonk2453 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering many of the basic aspects of diving, i.e. "don't hold your breath as you ascend" or "you use twice as much air at -10m as you do at surface." I'm completely new to diving, so I appreciate you delivering critical safety tips along with your opinion of the SMACO 2 liter tank.
@crybaby2696
@crybaby2696 5 ай бұрын
if u are i highly recommend just taking a open water padi course, it gives u the certification to dive to almost everywhere in the world, and it would tech u about the many dangers with these mini tanks, air time would be heavily decreased than advertised, the dangers of exploding your lungs during accent, not enough air to depressuried before going to the surface and air quality, a compressor is very expensive and it should be meant for diving, which mean no excessce water, harmful chemicals, and worstly oil going into your lungs forming a layer, compressors have oils and gears, a professional dive shop compressor solves these issues, a small one does not. I recommend investing in to a pony bottle setup when you have your certifications.
@justsayjay
@justsayjay 4 ай бұрын
This is EXACTLY how people die in the water. Watching a short clip on some dropship bullshit. These are dangerous. Go get a padi open water cert and real, tested tanks. There are ALOT of things you need to know other than "dont hold your breath " please, dont just go out without a cert.
@game-tea
@game-tea 4 ай бұрын
just finished my PADI open water and have to say, never go dive without it! (or the SSI/other diving organization's equivalent) As long as you have safely learnt the skills that are a part of safe diving, it's quite rare for something bad to happen but you do need to learn all ways to avoid emergencies.
@IreneWY
@IreneWY 4 ай бұрын
If you're new to diving, you should've learned all of this in your recently completed open water course. If you haven't, then you're not new to diving, you're reckless and a drowning waiting to happen. Go get certified
@NeverBestStudio
@NeverBestStudio 3 ай бұрын
take the open water class man, it's worth it.
@joergmaass
@joergmaass Жыл бұрын
Probably a good gear to do underwater repairs or inspections of your boat. In this use case, you stay close to the surface, are attached to the boat with a lifeline, but have your hands free to work, and the dive time is more than sufficient. I would consider one if going on a blue water cruise.
@RazorRevenge
@RazorRevenge Жыл бұрын
What about for lake diving? Maybe 10 feet tops. I really want to go out and pick up trash and other lost stuff in my local lake. I don’t live on the coast so there are no scuba classes near me. Or maybe I could use a garden hoes and tie it to my boat and breath through that?
@scavanger1000
@scavanger1000 Жыл бұрын
@@RazorRevengeI wouldn’t recommend it without any scuba training, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t be able to breath through a hose at that depth, and even if you could it would probably get full of co2, similar to how snorkels can give you a “co2 hit” if used improperly
@Warcraze13
@Warcraze13 Жыл бұрын
@@RazorRevenge you wouldnt be able to breath through a hose underwater more than just a few inches. There is a reason dive tanks are pressurized.
@TheAdatto
@TheAdatto Жыл бұрын
​@@Warcraze13wel the main reason for pressure is to put 200times the air in.
@Warcraze13
@Warcraze13 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdatto The air has to be pressurized for you to be able to breath at depth. You cannot expand your lungs normally underwater, if you didn't have the pressure you wouldn't be able to draw any air in.
@hallowedmeadow4636
@hallowedmeadow4636 Жыл бұрын
You guys are very safety. Safety. Safety. Im certified as well but to me this has a specific utilitarian use which is routine boat and anchor inspections. As sailors we have to frequently check props, inspect hulls, check anchors. This is routinely no more than 3m. Holding your breath in a sea state while trying to unwap a founled prop is a hassle, and coming up nearly out of breath you risk bumping your head etc. I would use this w a SOP onboard that states no more than 3m and 10 min. At that point the risks are less than using snorkel gear since depth and duration are not even factors.
@jonetyson
@jonetyson Жыл бұрын
You do realize that the air in your lungs expands when you come up, right? This means that if you don't keep your airway open that your lungs will be over-inflated upon surfacing if they were full at depth. This isn't an issue when you dive without a tank, because at depth your lungs are not fully inflated even if they were on the surface, because the air in your lungs becomes compressed as you go down.
@madcow5833
@madcow5833 5 ай бұрын
Where did you get your license? They should not have passed you. It is very unsafe to do scuba diving without training and you are clearly not qualified to assess the risks.
@TansJahman
@TansJahman 4 ай бұрын
Je m'occupe régulièrement du nettoyage des coques de Voiliers et Catamaran... Pour des interventions sur Hélice, Gouvernail ou Encre, c'est la meilleure bouteille possible: Petite, légère, peu encombrante, rapidement rechargeable sois même avec un petit compresseur comme dans la vidéo... Franchement avec sa et un Compresseur Narguilé, y'a largement de quoi faire dans ce milieu à part sa je ne vois pas de réelle utilité sauf pour de la plongée sans dépasser les 2-3m de profondeur même si masque tuba suffisent largement...'
@john30039
@john30039 Жыл бұрын
I would use this as a self-contained emergency air system for my main system. Being a wreck diver you find yourself in situations without a direct ascent. I had an o-ring blowout on my main while deep in a wreck. But my dive buddy was right there, so after I grabbed his second/emergency regulator we attempted to diagnose the issue. Failing that we made our way out and a safe ascent. With this small bottle, it will give the diver an emergency air system in case their buddy was several meters/yards away. Overall it is for peace of mind.
@Nederlanden-biker
@Nederlanden-biker Жыл бұрын
No , that will be very dangerous. U need to use trimax. The O² % is wrong. When doing technical wreck diving. U need to plan your % before driving. Emergency is not planned 😕.... Any use deeper then 10 meters could be dangerous!
@christianjansson6806
@christianjansson6806 Жыл бұрын
Wreck diving and peace of mind in the same sentence... 🙂
@scavanger1000
@scavanger1000 Жыл бұрын
@@Nederlanden-biker agree with everything except the planning your % part since you can plan as much as you want but it won’t help with an explosive failure, assuming it’s not from lack of maintenance
@mjgII
@mjgII Жыл бұрын
@@Nederlanden-biker well getting the bends is better than drowning
@Pitoumotorsport
@Pitoumotorsport Жыл бұрын
Un plongeur épave d'opérette qui ne double pas son matériel !
@regulus7754
@regulus7754 2 жыл бұрын
But isn’t it dangerous to use your own compressor instead of a certified one? The smallest impurities can become toxic once you’re diving a bit deeper.
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
You can use your own compressor if it is made for scuba diving. And the one I use and the ones I mention in the video are made for breathing air.
@jishnuvijayan2587
@jishnuvijayan2587 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian_Wedoy 🥰
@GhostCaver
@GhostCaver 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian_Wedoy but does it have all the proper filters? Have you had air quality tested? What grade air is it? Its very concerning
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
@@GhostCaver yes is has all the propper filters.
@SAGEAZ6244
@SAGEAZ6244 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian_Wedoy Which pump and compressor do you use?
@5143gusgus
@5143gusgus 2 жыл бұрын
He now has a heck of a story to tell his kids, of how he survived the 2L mini diving tank
@zebradgr8339
@zebradgr8339 Жыл бұрын
With french made military rebreathers (DC-55, FROG) you didn't have (well ..you don't have) a safety regulator. The only thing you could count on in emergency was a small 0,6 liter or 0,4 liter air bottle that was used for BCD inflation ...so you had to take off the hoses of the rebreather and breath from the BCD ...and ascent from up to 55 meters of depth (maximum depth for the DC-55)
@SpainSpace
@SpainSpace 4 ай бұрын
I'm not even into scuba, have never been close to doing it in my life, but the algorithm brought me here and it knows damn well I'll watch it
@WhitedevilEE
@WhitedevilEE 3 ай бұрын
This Video poped up for me several times now. I watch gameplay and RC Videos 9/10 times.... But yeah... I just watched him explain the in's and out's of scuba diving while in a pool. Du I plan on go scuba diving? Heck no, I live as far away from water as I can! But I have to admit, these jets he has look like so much fun! 😀
@igortseitkin2961
@igortseitkin2961 Жыл бұрын
A nice and concise (yet, detailed enough) review. Thank you!
@MrArrmageddon
@MrArrmageddon Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong but it's not decompression sickness thats the greatest threat here. It's a expansion injury? If you take a breath the bottom of pool this deep and swim to the surface you could explode your lungs etc. This has nothing to do with how long your down there. It can happen 5 seconds into your dive and the chance of it happening is nearly 100% if you don't do it properly.
@IreneWY
@IreneWY 4 ай бұрын
As long as you keep breathing, that won't happen
@ht-ve9fe
@ht-ve9fe 2 жыл бұрын
Like he says in the video I would get training also since, not only do you learn a lot, you run through a multitude of emergency procedures and experience in a pool and open water. If you don't have it and something goes wrong you will most likely panic, or have to think what to do which wastes precious time. Furthermore, with training you are far less likely to end up in a situation anyway. It happened to me when I was in training, my mouthpiece detached from the regulator and I took a second to discover what was wrong, being new at the time, I naturally tried swimming quickly to the top but the weight belt made it slow since I was still learning to maintain buoyancy. Fortunately I quickly put in my seondary regulator and re-surfaced. Although I am not the sort of person to panic, it is still scary and being inexperienced and ill-educated makes your insticts take over, which for something like SCUBA diving, can be fatal.
@davesradiorepairs6344
@davesradiorepairs6344 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, take your time finding the right instructor, taking the time to learn your skills well, and you'll be very comfortable in the open water, because the skills will becomes 2nd nature with practice..
@hedonismbot1508
@hedonismbot1508 Жыл бұрын
As a certified SCUBA diver, my main concern with these things is that they're being freely marketed to people who aren't. They suggest that customers seek proper training, but I doubt many people are going to bother with a full SCUBA course for something like this.
@ht-ve9fe
@ht-ve9fe Жыл бұрын
@@hedonismbot1508 whilst I agree, I am a strong believer in total freedom and free will and of someone wishes to take such a risk and it goes wrong, they must pay the consequences.
@UrielShlomoGarcia-fi4yu
@UrielShlomoGarcia-fi4yu 6 ай бұрын
Another thing that is very important is to constantly look at your tank gauge to monitor your air supply.
@jams501er
@jams501er Жыл бұрын
I am impressed. I thought it would be less minutes. Thank you for posting your video. Now I am interested in purchasing one of these. Thanks again
@canukillacs7022
@canukillacs7022 7 ай бұрын
as a certified diver ......please do not risk your life.....just get proper scuba training ,then you will realize what these units are
@jams501er
@jams501er 7 ай бұрын
@@canukillacs7022 Thank you
@Antisophiste
@Antisophiste 2 жыл бұрын
2 liters in a bottle at 200 bar pressure (2900 psi) is 400 liters of air Basically the human breathes on the surface between 12 to 20 times per minute for a capacity of 2.5 liters in calm weather and 5 liters in effort time. By spanking an average say 15 breaths per minute for 3 liters (15x 3= 45 liters per minute) and therefore 400 liters / 45 this gives 8.8 minutes of air on the surface At 10 meters divided by 2 or 4.4 minutes and at 20 meters by 3 or 2.9 minutes. Must not have tress otherwise more air. Even use as a backup for a stop of 3 minutes at 5 meters the bottle is not sufficient It will be empty well before because the breathing of the divers will be more important due to the stress of the end of the dive. This type of bottle is dangerous for divers It is fine for those who snorkel. Response from a scuba diving instructor
@richardoakley8800
@richardoakley8800 Жыл бұрын
my pony tank is 3 litres ..then i went technical....so it became 7 litres.. 2 is pointles
@bigbang259
@bigbang259 Жыл бұрын
what kind of diver are you if you breathe 20times a min , i can easily breathe 4 breaths a min
@zman9811
@zman9811 Жыл бұрын
I think most resources use an estimate of 20 liters per minute. My SAC rate isn’t great and it’s 15 liters per minute… 45 liters per minute would be the consumption of a panicked diver
@cleanerben9636
@cleanerben9636 Жыл бұрын
@@zman9811 Yes well I imagine that is usually the circumstance where you'd find yourself reaching for this little 2L
@mgarciadep99
@mgarciadep99 Жыл бұрын
2.5 L??, the common volume of air in normal breathing is around 0,5L
@madshoisgaard
@madshoisgaard Жыл бұрын
Please wait 24 hours before flying after diving.. generally accepted rule
@MrInterpriser
@MrInterpriser 5 ай бұрын
Why
@madshoisgaard
@madshoisgaard 5 ай бұрын
@@MrInterpriser Difference in pressure puts you in danger
@MrInterpriser
@MrInterpriser 5 ай бұрын
@@madshoisgaard interesting
@stevemarks9360
@stevemarks9360 4 ай бұрын
​@@MrInterpriserlet me answer that question properly, instead of "puts you in danger". When you finish a dive you still have a higher than normal level of dissolved nitrogen in the blood. When you scuba dive people generally know that you surface slowly to avoid nitrogen bubbles forming in the blood, commonly called the bends. When you go up in a plane, the rise in altitude is the same as going up in the water, nitrogen bubbles can dorm in the blood causing the bends. We don't dive 24 hours before a flight for safety. Imagine your blood is like the liquid in a bottle of coke, the gas is dissolved in the liquid. When you open the top, you lower the pressure and bubbles appear, that's what we have to avoid.
@MrInterpriser
@MrInterpriser 4 ай бұрын
@@stevemarks9360 thanks for explanation!
@jamesgraham8386
@jamesgraham8386 Жыл бұрын
You should have the pony bottle visually inspected. Make sure you have the O-rings in place and fill the tank with a compressor that is suitable for breathing gases.
@toryknotts8026
@toryknotts8026 4 ай бұрын
I need this and a weight belt so I can clean the bottom of my pool! And your pool bottom finds are much nicer than what I find ( dead frogs and lizards)
@carledinger3422
@carledinger3422 Жыл бұрын
15 minutes. 1/2 of the claimed dive time. Make sure you have a filter on your compressor. Also make sure you're compressor is oil less . I don't think it possible to get 2600 psi without a 3 stage compressor.
@noferr
@noferr 2 жыл бұрын
big thanks for the explaining. i bought it and i used it in my pool aswell! love your videos, keep the good work up.
@canukillacs7022
@canukillacs7022 7 ай бұрын
did the pool have a life guard to save you too
@craigdawson7632
@craigdawson7632 4 ай бұрын
This seems good for looking around shallow water, close enough to surface in a breath sort of stuff. My main concern is people dealing with compressed gas that have no real idea. I have seen oil on fill valves with a carbon 4,500psi tank while being filled, its exciting. People mucking around with the regs or filling around contaminants, exceeding fill capacity. With paintball we always had a bulk fill bay then a top off bay, in comps we used nitrogen. Same idea. My other concern is loosing track of depth and then you black out by the time you surface, take on water and sink down into the depths again
@stevescubas
@stevescubas 2 жыл бұрын
Am glad to see you posting vids again, will be very interesting to see you compare tanks with people with no diving experience
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
Going to try to post more now that I'm back from the accident.
@stevescubas
@stevescubas 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian_Wedoy Am glad you are feeling better and posting again, but don't rush yourself if you feel not up to it
@xpearrow5697
@xpearrow5697 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian_Wedoy rotting for your full recovery. By the way, what did happen to you?
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
I broke my head in December. Got a skull fracture, bleeding in the head and concussion. I will make a video about it.
@xpearrow5697
@xpearrow5697 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian_Wedoy God Bless because you're in a little bit near full recovery 😇 Stay Safe always
@LittleZakie
@LittleZakie 2 жыл бұрын
Decompression sickness can also occur from fast ascent speeds, not just from exceeding the time limits. It's a way better review than the last time with all the safety advices.
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but nitrogen still needs to have time to build up in your bloodstream. You won't get decompression sickness at 10m in 12 min no matter how fast you go up.
@LittleZakie
@LittleZakie 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian_Wedoy i wouldn't be so sure about that
@DernRern
@DernRern 2 жыл бұрын
@@LittleZakie i would be... im sure if it was possible to get deco sick from that, less than pressurised atmosphere, there would be a safety stop implemented for those stats... there isn't.. sooooo
@LittleZakie
@LittleZakie 2 жыл бұрын
@@DernRern safety stop has nothing to do here, as soon as you have some nitrogen inside your body you have a chance to suffer from decompression sickness after ascending too fast.
@DernRern
@DernRern 2 жыл бұрын
@@LittleZakie sorry man, you're wrong here.. the whole thing about decompression sickness is due to the volume of nitrogen in your blood... you dont "on gas" at any significant level at that depth, due to the lack pressure.. ascending fast from that depth may cause a lung injury in very rare circumstances.... but it still wouldn't be likely ... again becuase of the pressure ratio "edit" - and the time spent there being so minimal.. like less than 120 mins..
@Bkilfoil747
@Bkilfoil747 3 ай бұрын
Quick note from someone who fills tanks for work as a diver. Please be careful about at home compressors. I don't know this guy's setup but it should be aviation or medical grade filtering to make sure the air you put in the bottle is not toxic. Also the device he is using to get air from the full scuba tank to the mini bottle is called a cross whip (with an adapter for their system I think). If you are looking for a smaller regular scuba bottle you might want to just look at getting a pony bottle. Make sure you get licenced and trained in scuba, it can be dangerious if you don't know what you are doing. Good on you for talking about breathing out, using more air, etc. For everyone wondering the air compresses at about +1 atmospheres/10m or 33ft. That means you will consume about 2x at 10m, 3x at 20m, and so on. Your regular consumption rate at rest on the surface is called you SAC rate and can be used to calculate how much air you will use.
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 ай бұрын
My setup is good.
@Eltaccos
@Eltaccos 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review man. I’ve heard people use toothpaste for keeping goggles from fogging up so that’s probably what that’s from.
@odeltarkhan3033
@odeltarkhan3033 2 жыл бұрын
Toothpaste, saliva or any grass is good to prevent fogging.
@zahimiibrahim3602
@zahimiibrahim3602 2 жыл бұрын
Toothpaste is to get the oils from the manufacturing process completely off before you start using the mask. After that you can use plain old dishwashing liquid but make sure to rinse off the soap before use! Or baby shampoo that doesn't sting the eyes.
@odeltarkhan3033
@odeltarkhan3033 2 жыл бұрын
@@zahimiibrahim3602 the best way to remove silicon on a new mask is heating the glass with a lighter. Dish washer, spit and grass work perfectly
@ppo2424
@ppo2424 2 жыл бұрын
@@odeltarkhan3033 No bloody way you could damage it, just use some toothpaste.
@davesradiorepairs6344
@davesradiorepairs6344 2 жыл бұрын
Toothpaste is used only to scrub the factory film off the inside of your mask BEFORE you use your mask, when it's brand new, and it should be repeated 2-3 times... Rinse and repeat... I don't always have spit when needed, (who does), and I use the commercial anti-fog spray, found at most dive shops.. Most dive boats have a bucket of soapy water to dunk your mask in and that works not bad, if you can't find anything else..
@russwelday
@russwelday Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😀
@PepinoMichoacan
@PepinoMichoacan 3 ай бұрын
The perfect companion for my next unmapped solo cave dive !
@KeLzsz
@KeLzsz Жыл бұрын
*Your lungs may explode* Okay I’m never scuba diving…
@ArthurvanH0udt
@ArthurvanH0udt Жыл бұрын
AT 4m00 mark. About filling the smaller tank with a big tank. Even the 1st time will never fill the small bottle to 100% because of the equilibirum. So full large bottle will 1st time fill small bottle to about 80-90% IMHO. And then of course as stated it gets worse starting with large bottle not from 100%.
@ISOSAILING
@ISOSAILING 2 жыл бұрын
can think off a few times this would have been handy, mainly clearing the boat prop when we got a big sheet off plastic wraped around it!!
@petrsedlak4761
@petrsedlak4761 2 жыл бұрын
Talking about decompression sickness using 2L tank is so much fun :D Having open water diver certificate, you would not have any sort of decompression training anyway. But, go and do the OWD training. There are another dangers awaiting in the water. And after training with propper gear you would not play with such toys anymore if you love your life.
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
I agree you should get a certificate. But I have been working as a commercial diver, and I use these all the time. So much easier to travel with.
@adragon
@adragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian_Wedoy How in the world are you working as a commercial diver with no cert? Certification is not only about permission to dive, but almost entirely about your own safety. You should get one ASAP.
@bradley3549
@bradley3549 2 жыл бұрын
@@adragon Where did he say he wasn't certified?
@FinnMcRiangabra
@FinnMcRiangabra 3 ай бұрын
Did you miss the part where the OP said that decompression sickness is not an issue when restricting usage to the 10 meter depth suggested for this tank as the primary source? Are you trying to impress people with how cool and knowledgeable you are? Because it is coming across to me as being a jerk who did not even pay attention to the OP.
@petrsedlak4761
@petrsedlak4761 3 ай бұрын
@@FinnMcRiangabra Do you know what happens when you inhale in 3m depth and swim to the surface while holding your breath? I tell you. You will die! And there is nothing that could save you. You would know if you would be properly trained diver. That's my concern about people using this "few breaths till death" device without any training. There are also another safety issues. Do you want me to continue?
@markdavis4318
@markdavis4318 10 ай бұрын
Great information all around. Thanks!
@JohnSmith-bz9be
@JohnSmith-bz9be 2 жыл бұрын
I like the length of the video, as well as the review of this item. Cheers and subscribed!
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙂
@Kartoshkin23
@Kartoshkin23 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christian_Wedoy hello I ask you is it scuba tank is safe?
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kartoshkin23 it is safe for down to 10m if you know how to scuba dive.
@skzion2
@skzion2 2 жыл бұрын
You like ... the length of this clownish video? Maybe you should get certified to do real diving.
@wormgaming3807
@wormgaming3807 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't filling your tank with a hand pump allow moist air into the tank leading to rust
@devanfunderburk9373
@devanfunderburk9373 Жыл бұрын
So would this be safer to use for snorkel depths? I enjoy snorkeling but always hate not being able to stay under the water longer to soak up more of the beauty.
@jbone9491
@jbone9491 Жыл бұрын
Just get SCUBA certified. They will teach you how to react to emergencies and explain how to stay alive in certain situations. This contraption IS a SCUBA device. You should be trained/certified to use it!
@schmarrenheimer80
@schmarrenheimer80 Ай бұрын
Very informative, thanks. Practical question from a newbie: do you wear any type of buoyancy compensator in this video? Or are you wearing exactly the weights you need?
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser 2 жыл бұрын
This video was so awesome. All I did was click at the very end and found the answer. I didnt even have to watch!!! You are the best!!
@ivuldivul
@ivuldivul 2 жыл бұрын
Not bad, but I think that for similar price you could get a stage cylinder with a regulator.
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
I already have that, and I rarely use it because it is to much hassle
@wildeyestudios5
@wildeyestudios5 Жыл бұрын
This is cool, is it very different from the 5L tanls we have in dive centers for kids? I don't see it dangerous, I'd just be concerned about the sealing of the bottle and then making 200 bar in it
@backfromcuba
@backfromcuba Жыл бұрын
Clarity of that pool water is 👍 excellent.
@RealGrox
@RealGrox 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Which compressor are you using?
@TushhsuT
@TushhsuT Жыл бұрын
Max pressure 200 bars. Volume 2liters. Tidal volume is about 0.5 liter, breathing - about 15 times a minute. At a not deap diving, accordiingly - 2*200/(0.5*15)=53 minutes. Deeper dive will reduce the amount of possible breathings accordingly. 10 meters - 2 times, 20 meters - 3 times, and so on. fast movements would lead to deeper and faster inhaling. Let say another factor 2. So 2 L bottle should give you 10-20 minutes at 10 meters dive.
@jacobuszwanenburg1629
@jacobuszwanenburg1629 4 күн бұрын
I thought that too 10-15 minutes max for most that are new to diving use much more air than an experienced diver
@blecgaming9069
@blecgaming9069 2 жыл бұрын
These tanks may not be superb for standard diving. However! For pool maintenance. They are a God sin, because you don't need a 30-40 foot rod to reach the bottom and running back and forth. You can take the vacuum nozzle and dive to the bottom and suck up all of the nasties. It's much faster and it allows you to get a close look at the intakes and more to service at the bottom of some pools. It also allows you to get a through job. You can cut a hour long job in the sun, in half and your not having to stop to avoid heat stroke, sun burn etc. They have there place,
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. You should not go deeper than 10m with these. So to compare it to a full scuba rig would be wrong.
@skzion2
@skzion2 2 жыл бұрын
So you think this is targeted at pool boys who can spend hundreds of dollars on hardware? I visited the website. No pool boys there.
@blecgaming9069
@blecgaming9069 2 жыл бұрын
@@skzion2 ideally, a professional pool cleaning business or summer time husseler will spend roughly $1,000 on good equipment. 2L tank kit is between $400-500 + $400-500 for your vacuum, adapters, scrub brushes, chemicals, poles, mechanics tool kit, and the other basics for pool care. I prefer actually going go small scuba tank route for cleaning deep pools because you can physically stay at the bottom
@skzion2
@skzion2 2 жыл бұрын
@@blecgaming9069 Well, you might actually be a good customer for this device. You'd need to add the price for a speedy scuba-certified compressor, though, for all those refills. Even for you, though, why not just get a cheap scuba rig with 40 cu ft or maybe 80 cu ft, with a cheap regulator and bcd? And some weights. You'll be able to get these cylinders professionally filled (fills are pretty cheap). This would be much safer and less burdensome for serious use, or so it seems to me. You'll need fins and a mask regardless of system.
@blecgaming9069
@blecgaming9069 2 жыл бұрын
@@skzion2 Unfortunately where I live, the closest professional sucba shop is a 4-5 hour ride. So getting refills is quite a out of the way task unless I'm in the area. The cheapest scuba set from what I looked into, was $1,100 for everything. I do already have a certified air compressor, fins, mask and regulator as I do scuba for a hobby and clean pools for some extra cash. It's a great hobby either way , for someone that doesn't care to buy the full scuba rig and lesson anyways; this is a good; however more dangerous way to scuba.
@StormRaid417
@StormRaid417 5 ай бұрын
If you're freediving, you could just breathe through the tank for 1 minute and continue your freedive. Would that still be dangerous? I'm just curious because, as a beginner freediver, I can only stay at 14-foot for 1 minute, so technically, with this tank, I could be under for over 20 minutes or more.
@compuholic82
@compuholic82 4 ай бұрын
At 14 feet, you'd have to do a lot of things wrong. But if you fill your lungs and don't exhale as you go up, then yes, it is dangerous. If you inhale underwater through the regulator you are inhaling air at the same pressure as the water around you. When you surface, the pressure around you drops and the air in your lungs will expand.
@2412Bec
@2412Bec 4 ай бұрын
I like it. I've my advanced open water, so i think it's safe for me. If you've no experience then this could be fatal
@arturoborski5909
@arturoborski5909 Жыл бұрын
And the sealing rings supplied, where they spares ... ?
@Christian_Wedoy
@Christian_Wedoy Жыл бұрын
Yes those are spare parts
@evolvedmonkey9978
@evolvedmonkey9978 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video, as always they are informative, detailed and you do warn for the risks of using these bottles with no training, it is an interesting product, but... to expensive, so let's do some maths, this equipment as bail out system is capable, and I was looking for a pony tank and looked at the prices, this setup would cost me between 500 to 600 euros without a compressor.. I bought a 5 liter scuba tank for 150 euros, a metalsub regulator first stage for 55 euros, a metalsub second stage for 60 euros, regulator's hose of 25 cms for 15 euros and a mini preassure gage for 17 euros, also bought tank harness to connect to my bcd, all in all 340 euros, all new material, they ask 500 euros for a that? hmmm
@MikeSantis
@MikeSantis Жыл бұрын
One thing you haven't mentioned is buoyancy. It must be hard to maintain the right buoyancy without a proper BCD. And that will cause using a lot of energy and thus using a lot of air.
@tcurdt
@tcurdt Жыл бұрын
Might take some learning but when diving without neoprene this isn't really an issue.
@DanielHunterUSA
@DanielHunterUSA 2 жыл бұрын
Nice I’m thinking about buying one
@jasonhurdlow6607
@jasonhurdlow6607 9 ай бұрын
I was interested until you said it had to be replaced every two years! If it was < $100 maybe. But at that price?! It would be nice to keep one on the boat in case you needed to work on a prop, do a quick hull inspection, or dropped something overboard in shallow water.
@946towguy2
@946towguy2 4 ай бұрын
Looks like a paintball tank and regulator. I typically use about 1.1 Cu'/min at 18' and this tank is about 15 cu'. Personally, I have both 13 and 30 CF pony bottles which I use with Conshelf XIV and an SPG on 6" hp hose for safe 2nd. The 30cf can also be worn in a streamlined harness on the left side front for working under boats or in a pool with less entanglement risk
@igmshop
@igmshop 4 ай бұрын
Great video, where did you got underwater scooter? Can you add the link. Thanks
@naziraaidaralieva6801
@naziraaidaralieva6801 Жыл бұрын
This is really helpful video i was thinking to buy little scuba tank like this i don't think ill buy thank you for sharing this video
@chrisbuck2918
@chrisbuck2918 2 жыл бұрын
What compressor do you use? I’ve wanted to look into buying a compressor but I’m kinda hesitant.
@wishbone5785
@wishbone5785 Жыл бұрын
Get a Bauer Junior.
@sombojoe
@sombojoe 4 ай бұрын
Holy smoke. I didn’t realize you pressured that to 3000 psi!
@WaschyNumber1
@WaschyNumber1 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video 👍🖖 Do you have a video to your air compressor, the small gray one you showed? 🤔 🤗
@JasonSpring-k3j
@JasonSpring-k3j 5 ай бұрын
What was the first adapter you put on the big tank? Doesn't the SMACO adapter just fit onto a basic tank fitting?
@tsuchan
@tsuchan 4 ай бұрын
I enjoyed watching your video and learned interesting things. Thanks.
@feynthefallen
@feynthefallen 5 ай бұрын
That thing is a really dangerous grey area between snorkeling/freediving and proper scuba. It is in essence a mini scuba setup like a pony bottle, but it is not marketed as such. The problem is, greater depths and longer dives suddenly SEEM accessible to people lacking the proper training, which then promptly get themselves into trouble. Therefore you should only buy such a setup if you have the proper understanding of its limitations, and with a specific use case, like defouling a boat or cleaning a shallow pool, in mind, never as a recreational or sporting device. If you are interested in diving, take a proper scuba course and learn to do it safely.
@artloftmallorca3958
@artloftmallorca3958 4 ай бұрын
Did you also try to use fins instead of your leg scooter? I assume if you have to use your own legs your air consumption will rise significantly and this tank would last less than 10min @ 5 meter
@Lkshfglkh
@Lkshfglkh 4 ай бұрын
The thing with small tankt is that you have them on a small boat or something when you dond have a compressor so the only thing I wanted to know was how long it tock to pump it up😢
@ZeRox024
@ZeRox024 Жыл бұрын
Okay so, im a really good diver, can go down quite deep wihout s tank and stuff. But i want to use this just to extend a little my snorkeling time and i would like to buy the 0.5l one, is that okay i mean just to extend like snorkeling time if i see something interesting?
@ZeRox024
@ZeRox024 Жыл бұрын
But i never used a scuba tank before
@lidewijvos
@lidewijvos 2 ай бұрын
Don't use this when not scuba certified and definitely do not mix with freediving otherwise you'll die or get long overexpansion pretty quickly. Freedriving and scuba diving are two completely different things
@leechapa7279
@leechapa7279 Жыл бұрын
I like this video. I had an Uncle that was a diver. However I've never been scuba diving and I want to learn.
@jonetyson
@jonetyson Жыл бұрын
Take a class. Just ordering one of these tanks and trying it yourself without a license is extremely dangerous in a number of ways.
@DongeGrace
@DongeGrace 2 ай бұрын
Good evening Can this be use in river, were the depth is 10m deep and how much
@mattharvey8712
@mattharvey8712 Жыл бұрын
Bravo.....dive class.....alwise exhaul when ascending....going up.......I see no Google's......did u get the high pressure hand pump.....2500psi....cheers
@lupitaosnaya8843
@lupitaosnaya8843 Жыл бұрын
can you give us more Details on the compresor ?
@ram64man
@ram64man 4 ай бұрын
Yes agreed, always use certified compressor agents , also if left charged can led to liquid oxygen build up, increasing impurity’s and rust , leading to a dangerous tank .
@JackieChinJR
@JackieChinJR 10 ай бұрын
The moisture in the air filled by a normal compressor or hand pump is going to lead to corrosion or growing of bacteria, fungi or other microorganisms from the inside of the tank. I’m just going to stick to a normal scuba system.
@reality-cheque
@reality-cheque Жыл бұрын
Looks like the suit inflation bottles we used in the Navy - buoyancy in the drysuit! You couldn't breathe from it, though. Anyone remember ABLJs? (Adjustable Buoyancy Life Jackets) - pre-cursers to the BCD. These had small inflation bottles like this and could be used in an emergency, by breathing through the ABLJ's mouthpiece. Actually, I think they were even smaller than this!
@RiverRobinhood
@RiverRobinhood Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video as I just got one myself
@BigO4185
@BigO4185 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding Video, I just ordered one!
@Flesei
@Flesei 5 ай бұрын
how do you rate
@intrepidsouls
@intrepidsouls 2 жыл бұрын
7:16 there is a seal swimming in your pool
@rossbrigolimusic
@rossbrigolimusic Жыл бұрын
How did you stay underwater without weights and bcd?
@meneerke
@meneerke 4 ай бұрын
what type or brand of compressor are you using this video?
@dalefunk2709
@dalefunk2709 Жыл бұрын
or to save time bring both. refill small with large. while diving use compressor to top off large.
@Jordi_the_onewhoknoks
@Jordi_the_onewhoknoks 2 жыл бұрын
I was peacfully watching the video Until u Said the price I had a hart attack💀but no hate thanks for the information! I expected it was gonne be like 30€☠️ love Your video’s🥰
@jerrymoney1479
@jerrymoney1479 12 күн бұрын
Did he says the tank can no longer be used after 2 years ? It’s such a bummer .. it’s a deal breaker to know that ! 😢I wanted to get one to keep in hand as I probably use it once a blue moon.
@poppetrurazvan3900
@poppetrurazvan3900 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Just present this to Bahau people. I think it will be a great seller. Wonderfull kit. Thanks.
@nicod8041
@nicod8041 Жыл бұрын
Really nice Video! I only have 1 Question left. What mini compressor do you used in the Video at 3:17 ?? Friendly greetings from Germany
@MrGrantgoulding
@MrGrantgoulding Жыл бұрын
Could I be ok to use this simply to dive under my boat to clean the prop of the regular fouling it gets?
@kelalamusic9258
@kelalamusic9258 6 ай бұрын
That was a very informative video. But how deep were you diving in that pool?
@carstenschops7797
@carstenschops7797 5 ай бұрын
It was 5m deep he said. Using a "scooter" to move which likely saved air.
@BRYKS22
@BRYKS22 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you on youtube old friend.
@Dannysoutherner
@Dannysoutherner Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure a hand pump can make 2000 psi or more can it? Pumping up a bike tire can be taxing enough.
@mattharvey8712
@mattharvey8712 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo.........I have hand pump 2200psi........the gauge on pump 4500psi......water cooled ......cheers
@martintursic238
@martintursic238 7 ай бұрын
So you pay 500$ and it expires after two years? I was considering this as a handy thing to have on a sailboat if my anchor gets stuck or I have to do small underwater inspection of the boat, or free the propeller if a rope or other trash gets stuck there. But 500$ every two years seems to be quite expensive. EDIT: On SMACO website it says the tank should be inspected and serviced by a qualified professional every two years, so I guess that means it can last much longer if it's serviced regularly.
@LuciTulcea
@LuciTulcea 6 ай бұрын
Are you deaf? The guy is the video said three times the lifespan of the tank is three years, not two!
@odomn
@odomn Жыл бұрын
I'm certified. I see so many issues with this little tank. 5 meters seems safe enough, but it is pretty easy to dive to 20 meters without even realizing it. The guy using this is not going to have a depth gauge or a pressure meter and will not know how deep he is or how much air he has left. He won't have a BC. All of a sudden he is 20 meters down and run out of air. That is a time for panic. Hopefully he can make it to the surface. Much better solution for shallow dives by amateurs would be a hose with a floating pump. The tether limits you to 10 meters and you cannot get yourself in as much trouble. And as an added bonus you also have a diving flag.
@Tjkruse9889
@Tjkruse9889 2 жыл бұрын
Been looking at getting one of these tanks to collet fishing lures at my peir witch from the top of water to ground i like 12 feet would i have to still take a class to safe
@clemontclemont
@clemontclemont 2 жыл бұрын
If you would like to use diving equipment you should definitely do an OpenWaterDiver certification. You can get easy hurt or die if something goes wrong.
@odomn
@odomn Жыл бұрын
I'm certified. You really can't get into too much trouble with this tank at 12 ft because it won't let you stay down long enough. But it is easier to go deeper than you think, and then trouble, serious trouble, can be found very easily. If you refuse to get training, which by the way is a lot of fun and less than this tank costs, then get a SNUBA. Much safer. Also cheaper, as you don't have to buy a compressor. Nobody will fill this tank for you, and you can't use your garage compressor.
@prod.byjrnbeats1336
@prod.byjrnbeats1336 2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the compressor please answer me i need that
@danjcla
@danjcla 8 ай бұрын
Read up on this topic, I took was going to get a PCP Airgun Compressor for a tank like this, but it turns out for science reasons even slight contamination of compressed air can be really dangerous, esp. If done often. Dive Shops and FDs have all kinds of filters and stuff on their fill stations, and get tested all the time. Getting a safe setup even used was on the order of like $3k. I'm currently looking into getting a large cascade tank to get filled (something bigger and higher pressure than a normal scuba tank) and then use that, plus maybe a booster pump which are far cheaper (let's you pump all of the air out of the bigger bottle). This will still not be super cheap but should be less than $1k used.
@prod.byjrnbeats1336
@prod.byjrnbeats1336 8 ай бұрын
@@danjcla alright thanks mate and yesss it seems very dangerous to buy just anything
@P.S.009
@P.S.009 Жыл бұрын
Great review. I have one question. In general, does wearing a scuba tank increase or decrease a diver's buoyancy, assuming no BCD? Or more to the point did this Smaco setup act like weights on your buoyancy?
@emeraldvirgo
@emeraldvirgo Жыл бұрын
Using the full-sized tank, I find they don't make me more buoyant. The air is so compressed in that tank that it increases the air density exponentially. Coupled with the metal material of the tank, I would think that they wouldn't make someone more buoyant.
@peteskyrunner4845
@peteskyrunner4845 Жыл бұрын
When it's full with liquid gas it will be heavier than water so will decrease buoyancy but as you use the air the tank gets lighter so will become neutrally bouyant. When the tank is empty it will increase bouyancy.
@petermichaelgreen
@petermichaelgreen Жыл бұрын
@@peteskyrunner4845 The air inside a scuba tank is still a gas, just a gas under high pressure. Oxygen and Nitrogen don't become liquids at room temperature under any reasonable pressure (this differs from the likes of Propane and Butane and even CO2 which can be liquified at room temperature with feasible pressure).
@petermichaelgreen
@petermichaelgreen Жыл бұрын
Roughly speaking a litre of volume gives a kilogram of buoyancy. This tank is adverstised as having a capacity of 2L and a weight of 6.5Kg. The external volume is probablly a little bit bigger than the capacity but I would think the tank overall would stil have negative boyancy.
@dbfuentes
@dbfuentes Жыл бұрын
​@@petermichaelgreen also take into account the material of the cylinder. Aluminum tanks are negatively buoyant when they are full, but become more positively buoyant as air is consumed. This means that by the time an aluminum tank is empty, it will float to the surface. Steel tanks also start off negatively buoyant, but they typically remain so throughout most of the duration of the dive
@wishbone5785
@wishbone5785 Жыл бұрын
Loved your video mate, good stuff. I'm amazed at people having a go at you for presenting some simple facts such as get scuba training before using such devices. And did you find any used plasters or condoms on the bottom of the pool?
@Christian-vc5qv
@Christian-vc5qv 3 ай бұрын
I had a d deep and i lost it underwayer for a few days the dive shop said it was crap and not safe because there was aluminum flakes in it.
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ 24 күн бұрын
You need to use a compressor designed for breathable air, very important detail!
@jumpship88
@jumpship88 4 ай бұрын
They should make them 300 bar with tl5 to 7 litres of capacity. The vest should also have a mini jacket-wing bcd. Id definitely buy it if that were the case.
@TheFrogfeeder
@TheFrogfeeder 4 ай бұрын
I’m looking for something for wildfires, I live in a high fire area, and I’m looking for those few extra minutes if I ever need them. I have a 40mm mask for smoke filters as my last resort, but I was thinking this unit would give me an edge if I ever have to battle an encroaching fire with my firefighting trailer I made.
@chrisphilhower6029
@chrisphilhower6029 Жыл бұрын
I have a 6CH Spare Air. Which is Way Bigger than 2L. It's a bit Bulky. Like the idea of the Air Hose and Separate Reg. My Pool is Overcrowded. Never asked if I could Test it. I'm Not Scuba Certified. Can't afford the classes now. I could probably pass the Book Work without issue. Even I know about the Breathing on Ascent. Boyle's Law. Gas under Pressure. And the Risk of Popping a Lung. And DCS. I do a Modified Freedive. 90ft Breath Holds across the pool. Swimming along the floor. Then straight up the wall. I have to Watchout for CO2 Buildup mostly. I Wait about 1 1/2 Minutes between them. A few breaths to remove the excess CO2.
@enchantededition6879
@enchantededition6879 4 ай бұрын
I’ve ordered two ready for my first cave dive 👌🤣🤣
@XtreeM_FaiL
@XtreeM_FaiL 3 ай бұрын
Next week. Mini parachute, is it worth it?
@tonystites2134
@tonystites2134 Жыл бұрын
How do you know you are not getting water in your tank or oil with that little compressor?
@WorkBob-m5h
@WorkBob-m5h 3 ай бұрын
Was the answer about two breaths at 60 feet?
@olagisrarikis
@olagisrarikis Жыл бұрын
No one should use this or similar setup without a diver's license PERIOD! 2L at 200bar is 400 litres. A person in good condition and relaxed uses about 20L/minute at the surface so will use 40L/min at 10meters. That gives 10 minutes or maximum 7 minutes using the rule of thirds, that is always exit with one third of what you started with. If you are under stress, cold and/or physical exertion you can easily go in panic mode and use 10 times the air and then it's gone in under a minute.... and never, ever dive alone. You should always dive with a buddy and both have a spare regulator (and a spare brain)....
@CubanCigarAndSandwich
@CubanCigarAndSandwich 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Informational. 👍
@Zippy0George0Bungle
@Zippy0George0Bungle Жыл бұрын
What kind of sea scooter are you using please? Thanks.
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