2ND BUFF HIDDEN WAVE TRIUMPH // WAY HARDER.. | Roblox Tower Defense Simulator TDS

[@BriAstrea]

So glad they’re removing stomps from the game. Full map stunning is so annoying

[@Eanthe]

What how did I not know .

[@BriAstrea]

@@Eanthe there not actually removing them (not officially from what Ive heard) but there replacing most moves like the stomp with smaller aoe moves (like fallen kings spinning slash aoe )

[@Eanthe]

Oh ok . The new stunning moves are not as bad and not as annoying.

[@okay2048]

Well wr got medic

[@NobleKnight14]

Nah not really, though they have been made less frequent. Patient Zero has a stomp, new Fallen King has one when he dies (for hidden wave) and finally Awakened Fallen King has a stomp when it goes rage mode.

[@leafytable]

all that for a barricade is crazy

[@andrewzw]

I say we both reproduce

[@Combustor21]

50 gems

[@68..58]

barricade is op fr fr

[@andrewzw]

@@leafytable you would you rather have inf bacon but no games or inf games but no bacon

[@RufflesOnCoke]

​@@andrewzw would you rather have infinite bacon with no games, or infinite games with no games

[@YTDW-zl8ds]

Bro. Now that’s just upsetting. I got stuck with stupid teammates and spent hours trying to beat it and now they just buffed it

[@MangoGalaxyYT]

fr

[@thanhan7879]

Getting teammates in discord is the best option overall I suppose

[@XtremeWarrior1]

@@thanhan7879 they don't always listen i told them all to bring rangers and only 1 listened the other 2 did their own strats and the hidden wave didn't happen

[@Zelo-Official]

Isnt it is supposed to be hard?

[@ineedagoodname2410]

I remember old hidden wave where you would need electroshockers or (pre nerf) toxic gunner to win and you needed gladiator or gold scouts to even trigger it

[@mcpigeon6908]

I thought you needed shredder or enforcer???

[@SupSup-mj1qc]

Shredder sucked wdym

[@mcpigeon6908]

@@SupSup-mj1qc no? it was used for speedruns....

[@serily4524]

if u mean the old old hw idk but the hw i did was the one during frost event 2021, and i dont think electro was used there, we used instead sledger when the tower was usable and good

[@fefpef]

@@mcpigeon6908nah it wasnt

[@Phantasmic_Player]

Fallen mode with hidden wave is now harder then hardcore mode

[@spiroulaxeni640]

Fr

[@TMMilezs]

No, I wouldn't say so. Void reaver still has 3 phases, and hardcore mode is very outdated still.

[@Phantasmic_Player]

@@TMMilezs They will need to do a rework

[@TMMilezs]

@@Phantasmic_Player For sure.. Better grind for engineer before that happens or it'll be a living hell

[@indoorrecipe1122]

Hardcore is Outdated

[@Woah9394]

The fact that fallen mode now is harder than fallen mode pre overhaul(which makes it the hardest it has ever been) is insane

[@antumbraaaa]

This makes me feel glad I beat it pre buff

[@noobgaming_yt8481]

me too

[@RICHRASDF]

I like that they actually made fallen mode and hidden wave a challenge, but 1 million health is way too much

[@aeniza-i6u]

1 mil on nuclear monster and event bosses are valid due to their custom maps, but this? This is on par with hardcore difficulty wise

[@BloxBric]

so basically, they turn awakened fallen king into the budget version of void reaver

[@FARES_X1]

*18:37** OMGGG THE MUSIC MIXED WITH DJ*

[@fulmine1412]

This is bs, first they make fallen way too hard to beat with more casual loadouts, now they buff hidden wave twice and the rewards are still dogwater

[@Feddy009]

Actually the First buff tò the fallen king health was balance cuz they also made the time from wave 41 tò fallen king debut much longer and you had more time to kill the enemies that came with AFK, i dont understand the second buff tho

[@gemaba4651]

Thats why tdx is better

[@user-ds5co9pq4p]

​@@gemaba4651tdx players trying to not mention the game in every tds video challenge ( impossible )

[@EndyPlaysRE]

1 thing that makes Fallen so hard is how the cash system works. In the old Fallen if you kill enemies you'd get 100% seperate cash of the damage you deal while your teammates get 50% each, Right now if you kill enemies the cash is *shared* so you'd get 50% and your teammates will share the other 50% (50% ÷ 3 = 16.66%) plus zombie drops decrease with more player like the fallen necromancer would give 1200 in solo but only 1000 in teams

[@Ghtareas]

​@@gemaba4651tdx is definitely not better

[@Somedudeonaiphonechilling8971]

They should give you the hidden wave nametag for beating specifically this buffed version of hw. Back during the old hidden wave, I bought accelerator at lvl 120 and was too invested into the frost event before even considering hidden wave, it was removed and I was too late tho. rip.

[@Somedudeonaiphonechilling8971]

What nametag does spike have tho?

[@CrazRex]

pretty sure its cloudy nametag

[@TamimPlays]

no i wouldnt say so. just because the new hidden wave is very hard doesn't mean its equivalent to triumphing the old hidden wave (be it easier or harder than the current one). that one is an achievement for people who started playing it before it was removed and triumphed it. maybe another reward, sure, but not the same nametag

[@y_Brz]

nope

[@vovanchidfy]

28:05 *_proceeds to place the whole air support of the United states_*

[@Hypernova7777]

XD

[@voidcreature__]

adding tank^2 is wild, I couldn’t even trigger it before the buff

[@UIU-Is.realA-354]

I think they got Mad because People did this On Duo Lol I still haven't beaten it because Bad rng with Matchmaking (Keep getting level50-150 player who just immediately left the game 💀)

[@Connor25784]

Try asking in the lobby you can get rid of the chance with matchmaking I did this and we won hw on about the 4th try

[@serily4524]

tds when players beat hw fair and square with pure skill and macro: lets buff hw how dare they!

[@5uspicious_Person]

I think it’s pretty interesting that the game mode reworks make stun-immune towers the meta. And even though turret isn’t stun-immune, it’s got enough range that melee stun attacks don’t affect it AT ALL, and that’s basically the entirety of fallen mode, melee stun attacks. For reference, Accelerator & Engineer have 20 range, while Turret has 26, and with DJ, those numbers are 27 & 35 respectively. That means turret has either 6 or 8 more range than accelerator & engineer. So how do we encourage the use of accelerator & engineer? While the easy solution would be to give them both 22.5 range, which means 30 range with DJ, we have to acknowledge that both of these towers have the highest DPS in the game. Accelerator has ~2950 DPS with commander, and engineer has ~2640 with commander, while pursuit only has 2550 DPS with commander. If we were to make them practically stun-immune in fallen, these towers might be too OP. So, accelerator with its high DPS should become primarily a boss killer (you already have turret for regular enemies). We’re only going to change the max level. This can be done making it deal 50 damage every 0.1 seconds, but it also has a 6,000 overcharge, a 6 second charge-up, & a 2 second cooldown, so the DPS doesn’t change, it just has a 6 second charge-up, has 2.5 extra range, & attacks twice as long now. And don’t tell me it’s going to struggle on fast enemies, since when did I say that was the intent? It’s supposed to struggle on fast enemies as to not encourage the use it for regular enemies. As for engineer, I feel like giving it the extra 2.5 range would be balanced, as it would be partially stun-immune, but not totally stun-immune. And even though 6 commander buffed engineers deal more DPS than 10 commander buffed pursuits, it’s only by 90 DPS. Meanwhile, pursuit has total stun immunity, while engineer doesn’t, so pursuit would still probably be the better DPS option.

[@novaialm2832]

Below Seeing this: Hmmm it looks pretty easy to beat...

[@FScaler]

Tds devs should do this: Hardcore rework, void reaver is stuck at slow speed, to balance it he gets 15% defence (based on his health) Fallen king rework in hardcore Add patient zero after molten boss Invisibles at wave 12 so we can get better hidden detection (spawning them in wave 10 when everything is so expensive is just unfair) Winning hc will always give 300-400 gems (i don't like how we sometimes get 250 gems) Make robux crates affordable with gems Brawler buff: hidden detection

[@delus1on-pidi]

if John was still working on tds afk would have 2m fr

[@Atmosphere228]

Did john left the game?

[@adamsadik4487]

​@@Atmosphere228hes developing tdx now , its realesed by like 9 months now

[@delus1on-pidi]

@@Atmosphere228 he left the dev team bc tdx

[@MangoGalaxyYT]

He never worked on tds himself, he was just the trailer guy and below's friend

[@delus1on-pidi]

@@MangoGalaxyYT ok i just said that john was main dev

[@Cyro559]

2nd hidden wave buff is ok but reward need it to be buff and giving the hidden wave skin.

[@SuperBenBoy5886]

I hope they nerf this by lowering the zombie density. Every time i do this in a trio with my friends we instantly get overwhelmed on wave 41. Not only that, we keep dying to a 10k hp enemy with the TANK MODIFIER.

[@CrazRex]

yeah the tank with tank modifier is so stupid lmao

[@SuperBenBoy5886]

​@@CrazRexAlright I did it. Me and my other 2 friends had to resort to using the rejoin glitch though (we regret nothing).

[@maelavecgg9133]

i'm happy i've done this before the buff... do you think duo or trio is possible ?

[@CrazRex]

trio yeah duo with rejoin bug maybe duo with no bugs no

[@IHeartTecca]

So, now we have to deal with that intermediate and pw2 type spam in the beginning, AND a 1m hp boss just for a stupidly bad reward? I think I’ll pass 😭

[@thegoonslayer69420]

Hey sorry for asking again, but was it hard for you or did you do it in few tries? We got aw fallen king to half hp, also its extremly laggy for me so I barely micro and coa chain (I do but not that much as I could cuz I just got 20 fps). I think about waiting for nerf.

[@CrazRex]

we did it first try but it was not easy

[@thegoonslayer69420]

@@CrazRex oh, thank you for reply. They should really nerf it a little bit, at least for laggy players.

[@okay2048]

Yeah it was about time they add something hard for pro players

[@thegoonslayer69420]

Hey there, I'm trying to beat hidden wave with my friends. We have already triggered it but we lost to spam at the beginning. Could you please just quickly type down all the things you did (your custom strat)? It looks like it works well, I would like to try it.

[@CrazRex]

we stalled out enemies with electroshocker and freezer, spammed as much dps as we could, and microed

[@thegoonslayer69420]

@@CrazRex thank you so much! Wish me luck, this is gonna be hell🙏💀

[@Legends_piggys]

Do you got any tips on killing the enemy that is in front of the awakened fallen king? I keep losing cuz of that even before the buff

[@CrazRex]

try to stall them with electroshocker and some freezing tower, while spamming as much dps as u can

[@Legends_piggys]

@@CrazRex aight thanks

[@WosheMan]

Is it only me who thinks the music in beginning of new Fallen and Hc is remix of Raze The Void (Void Reaver Theme)?

[@hudsonpeng4782]

The fact that the for beating the awakened fallen king is 50 gems is horrible, while they buff the boss to 1M hp

[@hudsonpeng4782]

And it also crazy that hidden wave is harder than hardcore and give terrible rewards

[@user-ds5co9pq4p]

It gives 100 the first time you beat it but yeah they should really buff the rewards

[@MiguelPiscopo-cd7tu]

I suffered as much as you, but I won hw when the boss had 600k, would be 100% dead even if it t had 700k. At least I did it stratless

[@LunarBloxer]

Ok now awakened fallen king is one of the strongest bosses now in terms of hp

[@_M4yday]

void reaver

[@LunarBloxer]

@_M4yday welp i now know that awakened fallen king isn't 1 mil hp anymore

[@RedGoji]

it was bad enough when you had to do the hardest challenge ever JUST to get to hidden wave, NOW A BOSS WITH A MILLION HP AGAIN?!

[@ItzEeon]

Ive gotten so close to beating pre-buff hw but now there is no way for me to beat it

[@minh385]

i like how no one uses accel anymore

[@CrazRex]

fax

[@dekokiri9961]

rip accel 😢😔🙏

[@indoorrecipe1122]

Dank is not happy

[@cinopro1021]

When lifeguard had new sfx 😮

[@xhyoix7593]

next up, awakened fallen king has 2 mill hp

[@santproto]

Why they buffed it?? Im still stuck not winning old one, and there this stupid buff, that's really upsetting 😭

[@theawesomedude1731]

what was everyones loadouts?

[@robertholson5058]

Omg somebody dressed up like narrator from the old events

[@iiXxCrispiepie_GamingiixX]

Why’s everyone just mostly playing in Fungi Island?😂

[@playerfool3083]

best map for hidden

[@galette4714]

fungi island is one of the easiest map to play on

[@iamgarry275]

just look how long the map is

[@iiXxCrispiepie_GamingiixX]

Rlly? Not U-Turn?

[@yangliu6901]

@@iiXxCrispiepie_GamingiixXnah

[@loveregis-villafranca5806]

They finna make him as hard as void reaver at this rate

[@BOBTHENINJA980]

The third strongest boss in the game 💀💀💀

[@user-ds5co9pq4p]

5th strongest if you count event bosses, hes tied with umbra and frost spirit at 1m

[@BOBTHENINJA980]

@@user-ds5co9pq4p I know but they're not in the game anymore except for admin

[@redbool1115]

He IS the strongest. Pure hp count doesn’t dictate how strong he is. Even then, because of his defense he basically has like 1.37m hp rather than 1m

[@AlvinlikesTDS]

Wow.... I cant even beat it

[@CrazRex]

you got it bro, ty for the donation

[@AlvinlikesTDS]

​@@CrazRexI can't even beat the unbuffed version Xd

[@Radbloxstar]

Beat it first try, thanks

[@bruh_8129]

sir, a second buff has hit the hidden wave

[@junxianghow3729]

not sure if i missed somthing,but why is there a random with scout and sniper in the team

[@CrazRex]

its bugged

[@phonghealthcliff35]

this is the fallen king that i expected to see

[@iamyourmaster2565]

I thought I was the only one who used freezer on fallen mode 😔

[@CrazRex]

nah its op

[@iamyourmaster2565]

@@CrazRex frost blaster still better thp…

[@nooblybacon6922]

Is using accel/engi viable?

[@Osman-i6x]

What is the strat and the loadouts????

[@user-vv5ez8pollo]

Now, how'll be hardcore rework?( If they make it)

[@CrazRex]

good question

[@indoorrecipe1122]

Void Reaver with 2mil health

[@leroy8888]

Wonder when completing it will actually become worth it. No. 50 gems is not worth it. The badge and discord role are useless. Wasting time on this could've been spend grinding other modes. Neither is boredom a good motivator.

[@kykyma2819]

what are the towers used for each player???? 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@whiteturtle6173]

The fact that you need to use consumables to quickly kill fallen king is bullshit imo

[@silashorne3359]

I ate 12 rich people because i thought thyey were cantaloupes

[@yhliu-p5j]

They should nerf fallen more. I cant even complete the goddamn quest for the skins.

[@zahramessah7299]

Bro i cant beat hw its very hard rex can you help,love you man❤

[@CrazRex]

i cant man its hard😿

[@Fhakhyahbimaha]

And they decided to buff it dgain💀

[@Light-vlight]

2nd buff is crazy

[@superxandynho]

Bro awaken fallen king think he void reaver!

[@galette4714]

i feel like the 800k to 1M was not necessary, is it too hard now ?

[@CrazRex]

yes

[@javierstar2553]

I did it during the 2nd buff when boss had 1m hp, and I died when he had 150k hp left

[@нефор-х9р]

what bro didnt except to see Spike

[@chadblack6467]

What does ranger max level do I’m so confused

[@chadblack6467]

Damage stacks?

[@CrazRex]

a lot of dmg + splash explosion dmg

[@Pansiero-mrt23]

I gain less gems than losing in grave diggers 💀

[@jadenng8990]

Thought y’all said HW was easy to begin with.

[@jadenng8990]

Also rewards are being cooked as Tyler(Dev) said.

[@commanderguyidk9909]

NAH THEY DIDNT RLLY JUST BUFF THE BOSS FROM 600k TO 1M💀

[@engineetedAccel]

rewards arent worth it bruh

[@ImSimpHinaSorasaki]

Can i use engineer instead turret?:/

[@CrazRex]

yes

[@Helloimadanlinz]

Crazy micro

[@iameqsadgurl]

accel has been overshadow by other tower :(

[@SupSup-mj1qc]

Makes the game less grindy and tedious tbh

[@HJBLucy]

They should just removed the 1 hp requirment imo

[@therealzonkgd]

will be too ez to activate just say a few numbers

[@HJBLucy]

@@therealzonkgd Whats wrong with it being to ez to activate with that kind of dogwater reward its not worth the brain power

[@Woah9394]

​@@therealzonkgdand you need to literally shred the fallen king

[@therealzonkgd]

​@@HJBLucy 1hp isnt really that hard with using rejoin bug so i feel no problem i definitely agree with the dogwater rewards literally die at w20 hc and you get better rewards

[@galette4714]

did you put "way harder" so they dont buff it again ? lol

[@CrazRex]

i hope so yes

[@indoorrecipe1122]

Pray for 5ouls to not put "too easy" again 🙏

[@serily4524]

ofc its easy for good players

[@aaronzulkarnain4375]

Whats wave 1 fallen mode music?

[@CrazRex]

its rng theres a lot of different ones it can be

[@fakenghia]

and now there no way to duo beat hidden wave

[@Nu0bzie]

1 MILLION ?WTF MIGHT ASWELL MAKE IT 1.5MİL

[@axoltoltoltltlto1360]

op

[@duhok-gy8mo]

gah dang

[@BlingStarStudios]

It should atleast give you 250 gems and a deluxe crate.

[@UIU-Is.realA-354]

True

[@indoorrecipe1122]

If u beat it a second time you get 150 gems and 1000 coins

[@MangoGalaxyYT]

BRO I DIDN'T EVEN BEAT IT YET

[@DarkCry5567]

Any doc for it?

[@PhuocNguyen-us8jb]

Any tips to kill fallen king faster

[@CrazRex]

spam rangers on strongest use flags late wave 39

[@Freezer-lc2jm]

He are 25 mins agi

[@yxArtemchik]

So cool

[@Potaot]

Ost is fire

[@zle8498]

İs there doc of this strat?

[@ClydeIsFake]

Allat for 50 gems 😒

[@Jakey66664]

Nice vid

[@TheTTRGuy]

Dang.

[@MatasSavickas-r2i]

3 seconds away

[@Михаил-х1е7ь]

pls buff rewards

[@youtefhy]

fallen tank gaming

[@LazyKoeker]

W

[@King.SMK.100]

CREATOR U PROMISED ME ADMIN WHRE IS IT

[@Saad99578]

do it in u turn

[@sayagantengs]

w

[@jianguochen3692]

I'm quiting tds because of this

[@jianguochen3692]

Unless someone like rex helps me

[@JohnMattew-yo7qx]

It's 120 1 1009?

[@CrazRex]

yes

[@NolifeNosoul]

Dude stop begin ez hidden wave this is all ya fault I can't beat this god damm 1m hp

[@LazyKoeker]

I’ma be blowing 1 full chance to beat hw😂

[@LazyKoeker]

Les get some Ws in tha chat ppl

[@portalstowerdefense]

w