2x72 Grinder Review

[@kierstenidzorek6532]

First one showed missing parts. Second one was complete. It's a working bench grinder kzbin.infoUgkxxC8HPnl24fu0XhMU_nbmWNEUoK1RMHXk . One thing I like alot is that it's surprisingly quiet. I don't feel like I'm sacrificing any rpms or power for the quietness either. All in all it's a very nice machine. No vibration whatsoever.

[@yamspaine]

The little humor blips... They make me smile. The need to comment comes from actually laughing out loud... Your dialog is so elegant... then there is a little spike of dischord... Is that your son's doing? You guys make a great team. keep it up.

[@HandToolRescue]

The tilting is genius!

[@jontheroofer1968]

I've been wanting a 2 by 72 for like 5 years! I used to be envious of your old 2 by 72. Now I'm REAL envious of your new one :-)

[@canuspel]

Love the content guys! I’m an apprentice Electrician in Canada. Getting familiar with your channel in the last year has taught me the value of craftsmanship within the trades, a value which is overwhelmingly overlooked in our industry today. Keep up the content, would be keen to look you up in my travels this summer.

[@davidhill7952]

I have had a Pheer for several years . Early version . Jose is an awesom guy , very helpful.

[@falconeer99]

"I needed to make swords" may just be my favorite EC line

[@mikecaffery8832]

Thank you Scott and Nathan.

[@killerkane1957]

I looked and thought long and hard. I am so happy with my Pheer! Quality for the price can’t be beat.

[@karl1949]

I'm blown away, super motivated & beyond pumped! EC&Crew A1!

[@christophersines8238]

I am envious. Thanks for the great information on a superior tool. I have a WEN 4x36 table top belt sander with a 90 degree tilt. It's a classic example of a good tool for the price and works great for what I need, and use it to accomplish. Still, there is always a mind set of wanting greater and better tools that can help you go above and beyond what you currently do. I have learned from you however, that you often have to make do with what you can afford. It is the individual's creativity and willingness to grow and learn that makes for excellence. I know some day in the future i will have something this nice, being a young 31 year old there is a lot of room to grow. Your videos always make my day and me smile. Thanks.

[@outsidescrewball]

I just purchased a Northridge, currently working on a mount for an engine stand so it is stout, mobile and can rotate.....your tilt bench top is simple/smart...great idea!

[@richardharris5336]

I bought my first grinder last year and it's 6x78" grinder with a 3HP motor. It eats metal without hesitation. It runs really smoothly and every part of it is simple, like you say. It's got tons of mass and I get zero vibration. It's not at all common for knife making as there are limitations, such as the the 8" contact wheel being fixed (or not easily changed). But I think there is a lot to be said for getting the best made grinder you can find (this one was delivered to me next day - less than 12 hours after ordering) and then *learning* how to get the most out of it. Every grinder has it's nuances and details, and learning how to grind efficiently and effectively is a skill in itself. 2x72 seems the go-to for knife making but I really feel no limits with mine (Beyond my own learning curve), making kitchen knives.

[@danfelack3351]

Powered by variable frequency drive, nice.

[@ernhrtus]

Love my Pheer 454. Use it all the time in my knife shop

[@HoneyGlzedHam]

I really enjoy the little tidbits of humor like the ta-da! Cat. Hahaha

[@MD-cd7em]

THATS ONE OF THE BEST INDUSTIAL ELECTRIC MOTOR....THANKYOU..WE ARE TUNED IN!

[@swordfish1120]

Nice grinder. I went on the linked website and for the money is seems like you get a lot of grinder with a Pheer. I've been looking to get a 2x72 belt grinder and so I had set out to build my own and I started to collect the steel I would need for the job. Before I could get all the steel together, and settle on a design, I came across a Burr King model 960 on Craigslist for $200. It turned out to be a 1975 model and it works great. Very impressed by the quality of Burr King, but you are correct these grinders are too expensive.

[@matthewmarting3623]

Yeah, bought a grizzly 2x72 for my first grinder. It was a good decision but not the best decision. Thanks for the heads up on Pheer, I’ve had grinderlust for a while now.

[@rickprice407]

If you ever need reversible, just set a switch up to reverse two of the phases. That's one of the real nice things about a three phase motor. Variable freq works on single phase but the current draw is all on that single phase. Three phase divides the current across each of them.

[@EinamUzKampo]

When we are going to see more about your house building? Miss those videos ! (Though my work is administration/finance related, but boy ohh boy I'm addicted to your videos)

[@Chopwoodcarrywater]

I was scoffing till you tipped that grinder 90 degrees. Mind. Blown.

[@kellyheld66]

love your description of elegant. "everything you need, nothing you dont need." that sounds a lot like my definition of elegant. "the simplest(mechanical) solution to a complex problem." i always use oil pumps as an example of elegant. the way that cable wraps around an arc with the centerpoint being the pivot point of the arm...elegant. :)

[@Brendannolan1986]

5:20 when he says he got power run over there by an “electrician friend” meaning he did it himself but doesn’t want to yell KZbin that

[@josh88113]

Just ordered mine. Can’t wait to try it out

[@josepimann7384]

My friend uses a "Bee" 72 inch belt grinder for making knives, lots of knives. All kinds of real nice knives. The 72" belt grinder is a very valuable tool. I wish I had one.

[@josephadams5993]

So sweet. You're gonna love it.

[@scruffy6151]

If i used a grinder alot this is what i would buy the price for this tool is not bad at all. Thank you Scott

[@gabrielsturdevant9700]

i think i'll stick with an angle grinder for now. that thing costs more than my truck and all my tools combined

[@josegomez6549]

gabriel Sturdevant for a person that uses it to make a living, 2k, at its most expensive, is not a lot

[@scruffy6151]

Jose Gomez i agree with you. I have alot of tools in my life. I have over 4,000 dollars in wrenches over 5,000 in wood working tools plus many other tools also. Very nice grinders if i had more uses for the grinder i would buy it. Maybe Chirstmas present for myself just because lol.

[@gabrielsturdevant9700]

yeah, but i think it says something when you can literally have a truck for 1/3rd of the price. the market is so incredibly inflated on these things.

[@MrB82901]

Great review and then the table tilts .... I've got grinder goose bumps. Thank you

[@ollie4dad]

I would love to see a blacksmith video with you and Alec Steele. You both have such a great outlook on making and shop set up. I know I am not the only one that would love to see the young and old meet for some learning and fun.

[@watermain48]

I looked long and hard at the Pheer, but I went with your (and Jose's, I think) fellow Oregonian Brett Matthew's Esteem 2 x 72. Haven't regretted it for a minute. It's very similar to the Pheer I think. Thanks for sharing Scott.

[@walterbeech]

Nice grinder, I had not seen that brand. I hope you don't regret not getting the reverse, I didn't think I would need it either but it sure has become a great option for me. I always enjoy your vids, thanks for the nice work.

[@TottenCreekFarm]

I have an Origin, and they make a tilt grinder. I didn't get that one, it was a little over my budget. But the table you made is perfect! I definitely plan to do the same. Thanks for the excellent video, very cool

[@mbmcclure3579]

Thanks for sharing this! Cut down a lot of hunting and searching for us newbies

[@jonrooten]

Love my Pheer 454, one of the best investments I have ever made.

[@paulmanson253]

Scott you speak of vibration. A dampening agent you may not know of. I refer to Marine Sealant Adhesive. 3M has it in 520 or 5200 ,product number. Can never remember which is woodgrain,which is either black or white. There is also Sikaflex,similar or identical chemistry,not sure. I am not exaggerating when I say this stuff is capable of replacing the rubber in the motor mount of a truck engine. Amazingly good adhesive,very strong when cured. Multiple applications than just gap filling adhesive. You spoke of vibration. Using this stuff between two metal plates would go a long way to seriously reduce transmitted vibration. Should also do well in absorbing vibration . Depending on where it is placed of course. The stuff is not cheap,but a couple of cartridges for experimentation would be a good investment, I think. Well worth the time invested in finding out what it can do for you. Cheers.

[@curtwhite876]

Beautiful piece of equipment. I ran my hand through a serpantine engine belt when I was 17 and nearly lost a couple fingers. All that unguarded belt scares the crap out of me.

[@americanaxetoolco2076]

Those grinders are used by us! We have 6 of em! Smart purchase

[@63256325N]

Nice acquisition, a plus for your shop. Thanks for the videos.

[@construction-productscemen4935]

I really like your machine.

[@gabrielsturdevant9700]

thought i was watching Chucke2009 for a second and got really excited when i saw you, i thought it was a collaboration

[@AgainstOdds]

8:28 You need to be inside a bulletproof lead box to turn on a tool from Harbor Freight Tools from a distance and then run as fast as you can once it's running.

[@jrix2041]

Blasted sirens on the highway!!!! Great Video!

[@cailrobbins]

Looks amazing! 👍🏻thanks for the video. I've been working with a shop make one as well. It was my first welding project.

[@alexwood020589]

I love that the mucky finger prints on the buttons tell their own story. On - mucky. Off - mucky. Faster - that's mucky too. Slower? Perfectly clean.

[@johnhoyle1647]

Totally unrelated topic to your video, but I’m a Stone mason here in western North Carolina and would love to see your experience with stone masons in your area. You obviously have a great deal of experience in building, and would be interested in your take of the trade. I’m a 36 year stone mason who uses traditional techniques I learned in the mountains from a man, who worked with the ol timers.Love ur videos, the best on KZbin...

[@stevehansen5389]

I bought my Burr King on eBay and got it for a very good price. Older, pre OSHA California made. Like new. Paid about what a single speed Pheer sells for. I am happy with my Burr King, it is three phase, but now you have me thinking about phase control. As a note, if I had known about the Pheer 454 I would most likely bought one rather than wait for an affordable used Burr King.

[@stevecallachor]

Steve Hansen i

[@robroy5729]

The motor and VFD are really what make these so expensive.They are completely worth the money!! Although its a fairly simple build IF you have a set of cutting torches or a light duty plasma cutter to make the frame of this specific unit. If you copied this design anyways. Great looking tool and I love the durability of the frame. Definitely appears to be well built. A must for any type of work that requires an edge or a modified profile that isn't obtainable by forging.

[@alansloas777]

Thanks, that is one of my dream purchases.

[@DrThunder88]

That does look like a nice grinder. Great review! Back when I was getting into knifemaking, I lusted over the similarly-proportioned Beaumont KMG. Not sure I've heard of a 2x72 at Harbor Freight. I've been suggesting they carry one for a while. Grizzly has one in the two-wheel configuration like your shop-built, as does Kalamazoo, though the price of being made in the USA seems to be an additional $260 and an even more anemic motor. I've seen some interesting (though shockingly not dissimilar from American original) designs pop up on AliExpress from time to time as well. They're usually listed as "2x82", but the toolarm and receiver design would make them compatible with 2x72 belts as well it seems.

[@johnlcallaway]

Thanks for taking the time to introduce a really great piece of equipment. I'll watch for it at garage sales because I can't justify that price :-)

[@blayton1212]

Very nice TOOL ! i noted the buttons on the VFD show wear and i have seen over time the membrane on VFD the control fail. You may wan to consider remote start and stop. also a hand E- stop would be nice too !

[@DHC-jw8qs]

I have an Esteem Grinder awaiting a shop. I ordered the optional tipping function to get a horizontal capability. Hoping to get the shop built this summer. Love your channel. Never would have figured you for a sword man... :-)

[@JerkRice]

There's nothing like buying quality tools that you know will make your job easier.

[@45414]

You don't know how much time this will save me before I prepare my men's swords and battle axes for the sieging Mongols. Thanks! On a side note, nice review, as usual.

[@lawrenceogden8682]

great machines also running at propper speeds nice to see

[@syringconstruction9825]

I appreciate the cat more than I knew I could

[@xX1GuNNy1Xx]

"SAE bolts, gotta love that" i can just imagine EC shouting out "MERICA!!!"

[@wcbscout]

Love me some power tools, they are so empowering. Thanks for sharing and imparting your knowledge of what one could state is a simplistic powered implement. Nate, the Bassmaster reference is epic!

[@JDeWittDIY]

Scott, you should look up Jeremy Schmidt's 2x72 belt grinder build here on KZbin. It's what I would call legendary as well. He'd probably have to charge more than $1500 for them if he sold them! EDIT: He's a young guy, but it seems he's thought of everything-- it tilts and and has replaceable tools, jigs, and tables. It's precisely built and way overbuilt. I'm sure it will last longer than any of us will, and I think you'd love to see it.

[@benjaminrobinson3466]

Scott love all your videos ! .... I am an electrician with a lot of VFD experience and it appears to me that you have a forward reversing option on that drive.

[@philochristos]

I got a "Little Buddy" from Wilmont which is around the same price as the Pheer, but it doesn't have a variable speed motor. It does have a little more flexibility, though.

[@MrPatdeeee]

There are many "2 X 72" manufacturer's. I went with the RPI company. It stands for Reeder Products Inc (ReederProducts.com). After watching many many videos about these grinders, I decided that RPI is among the very best; in design and building them. Not to mention that they have 16 videos from the beginning to now; that really gets into the hows and what not to do and what you need. In any case, if you want a quality complete 2 X 72 grinder, you are going to be bumping $2,000.00. Yes you can get it for less. But.........

[@joeschlotthauer840]

Should be in every livingroom.

[@darkknightmonk]

Can't put it in the living room, that's where I keep the motorcycle.

[@stanervin7581]

Dark Knight Monk Keep my bike in the bedroom. Only window in the house with a ramp outside

[@joeschlotthauer840]

Dark Knight Monk Yup, and we're both single.

[@stanervin7581]

joe Schlotthauer My wife died pancreatic cancer June 2011

[@joeschlotthauer840]

Stan Ervin I'm sorry about your loss, I'm fighting stage 3 type "A" melanoma right now.

[@guillemquiroga8081]

If i ever build a shop for me, I can assure you that I'll be using a lot of your tips and ideas...

[@geckotamer13129]

Lovely piece of kit. Very jealous

[@kale.online]

Shoutout the editor who likes memes heh

[@goodgirl99us]

1500 plus dollars!! just bought a Bridgeport milling 3 axis machine for 2 grand. think I'll stick with the ones I make. as a small operation(1 person) I cant justify that yet.

[@jimzivny1554]

Looks like a nice machine, the reason I haven't pulled the trigger on one yet is the prices are crazy, ill look into this. First thing that caught my eye was the printing on the label on the motor is the same font that Harbor Freight uses!

[@thebigmacd]

Jim Zivny That's a Baldor motor (high quality). HF likely copies their look.

[@USNERDOC]

Great review!

[@jamesbrandon8520]

I like the pheer but I ultimately went with the oregonblademaker all one word off eBay bought the vfd and the motor separate close to the same design but still different and I saved a bit of money over the pheer I’m happy with it

[@MichaelRusso]

Nice tool, nice solution!

[@marvincarvin1846]

I *think* that is the first VFD that reads out in Surface Feet per Minute. Is it common for the VFD to be config'd based on drive wheel diameter?

[@ianconn951]

That's just skookum as frig.

[@MyKonaRC]

Ian Conn watch so it doesn't eat your pant antler!

[@nicolasjan1584]

It miss tigo bidies !

[@coltonwancho6571]

Always feel like the outlier with not like sae bolt or much of anything sae. While being born and raised in the USA. Metric just feels good and right to me. Always has, and I believe always will.

[@NH3rrm4nn]

Pretty sure that's an off the shelf vfd. You can probably reprogram or rewire it to go in reverse if you want. As well as changing any number of variables. Startup time, jog, all kinds of options in those vfd's. If you're feeling frisky open it up, get some numbers, and get on the Googler. Nice

[@tacticalant3841]

Fortunately i watch ed bassmaster and Im researching belt grinders, must be why i found this video right after watching ed bassmaster!

[@johnjustice127]

The just look at it guy,had me laughing way to hard. Had to go watch it again

[@MrPatdeeee]

One other major thing. Be VERY careful of ANY VFD (Variable Frequency Driver) that is not dust free. For these grinders are mainly for metal. We are talking about micro metal particles that are shooting at high speed in every direction. And unless your VFD is not dust-free, those "filings" will get into your controller and possibly destroy it. I know of NO VFD that has that feature, except for the KBAC (Generic) series. Yes you can locate the controller away from the machnine by using remote controls (higher cost). But then you can not roll it around the place as well as outside. Check it out.

[@TeardownToolsNuPcycle]

Looks like the tool arm aka " stinger" is upside down. Give er a 180 so those bolts that hold the tool rest are facing down. Looks like the holes for the flat platen are all the way through so you should be good to go. Give you a little more height up from your tool rest if even only 2"

[@gregorsidler3962]

Thank you! Thank you!...... did I say THANK YOU!

[@gapster46]

Neat grinder. $$$ Toys for adults. By the way, thanks to your video on those OX Gloves, I have 3 pair of them now. So far I like them, but I did get stuck by a tiny salmonberry thorn which ended up just laying on top of the glove. Didn’t stick in my thumb, but it did stick me.

[@ForgeKnife]

That is a knock off of my Bader grinder. Every option shown except the table attachment is a direct copy of the Bader attachments.

[@rickrudd]

Love it! Excellent review. Switching gears, did you actually get an electrician friend over to run a simple 240v circuit or were you just trying to keep the safety patrol at bay? :) I'm just John Q. DIYer, and I haven't called an electrician for interior work since...never!

[@blipco5]

EC, off topic but, are you going to do an update on the new Skilsaw? How are you getting on with it?

[@runwillrobinson]

Great review! Oh, and I can think of a few additional reasons for not mounting a grinder to my coffee table. Ha.

[@mikedippel4986]

Looks like a solid tool, but I'm glad I went with a Steele grind instead. 😜

[@kengamble8595]

Well Scott, to me the word elegance means that it can do a variety of things, and all that it does, it does it very well! Looks like this machine falls in that category ! Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

[@abenzuoo]

Hello hello how is the build site going, wish to have some report and what is comming next! How you gonna frame it and insulate? Have you desided that or is that obvius for you already. Greetings from finland! -Aleksi

[@nraynaud]

are you sure about sending all your conductive grinding dust into your VFD when in vertical position?

[@redwhiteblue7831]

Awesome tool...

[@motor2of7]

Scott, I’ve been needing a belt grinder in my shop, for general metal working not for blade smithing. Do you have any thoughts on 2x72 versus 2x48? Is there any real difference in performance, belt life, etc?

[@MattsAwesomeStuff]

Jeremy Schmidt has the best DIY build tutorial on an amazing 2x72. Here's the playlist. If you like Essential Craftman, you'll love Jeremy's work. Meticulously filmed and narrated: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5C1nX9nhJKVgZY

[@wetherabble8031]

4:23 good job putting that meme in there.

[@w.l.parrish629]

Who makes that blue jobshirt you are wearing?

[@billwalker6946]

Now that you have had the Pheer Grinder for a couple of years what is your long term evaluation?

[@essentialcraftsman]

Top notch!

[@billwalker6946]

@@essentialcraftsman I have watched a ton of your videos and I trust you. I will order mine Monday

[@ellieprice3396]

I suspect you could do just fine without the variable frequency drive plus save a nice chunk of money.

[@philipwebb960]

VERY nice!

[@RoseUnseen]

Is essential craftman foreshadowing a sword building series ?

[@keats182]

I was just thinking that I'd love to see a build video on swords.

[@bennettjoseph9970]

4:04 Scott: "I don't know what I'm gonna call that." Nate: "Swinger." Scott: "'Stinger', thank you." LOL!