I've seen a few people asking for a warden version of this, so this is what we've come up with pobb.in/jvp-twNK-9na I don't see it being league startable but it looks like so much fun maybe I do it as a 2nd build 😄 It also doesn't have the unbound more elemental turned on.
@badgerbush35564 күн бұрын
Found this build while searching google, been working on it for about a week now from scratch, it's fun.
@Ddupan4 ай бұрын
hello im poe player from korea. I often follow korean steamer’s starter build. But this time, i decide to start with your build because your builds every league were so good and your explain about build is pretty easy to understand. And now i feel very comfortable and it’s suit for this league content i think. thank you for introducing this awesome build!!! goood luck!!!
@jagojuice91334 ай бұрын
thank you! tornados looks awesome! gona try this build out now!
@Kolzigstudio4 ай бұрын
1st PoohKake - The only reason I am not league starting this is because it is actually good. I need to struggle. Plus, Tornados are not good news on boats.
@tZork3k4 ай бұрын
you just need a bigger boat, is all.
@vKrayToR4 ай бұрын
ive taken this to 95 and this is an amazing build. i made some changes in maps but the leveling guide is superb.
@U.x.a.4 ай бұрын
In your POB you want to set your vitality to level 19 so you have 2400 Unreserved Life but only 2390 life recoverable. This will allow you to to basically have slayer overleech so your leech is not removed even if at "full" life.
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Great catch!
@KALClFER4 ай бұрын
In ssf ruthless did a poison assassin tornado when this gem first came out. 10/10 fun. Drop 3 tornadoes 🌪️ and a decoy totem when appropriate and easy peazy.
@LittleGiant2253 ай бұрын
I love this build. Got me my first level 100 character
@Pawpcorns4 ай бұрын
Just in time for Twisters movie! Great build, was fun to watch all the T17 clears.
@ItsapaulChannel4 ай бұрын
That intro POGGERS
@kizzagaming65234 ай бұрын
Haha, was gonna wsay the same thing
@rocksfire43904 ай бұрын
i was going to league start as turbulence tornado but then i made a melee ignite build with the tinctures and will be playing that instead. both the builds are using warden so i can always change if things don't pan out and hopefully respecing is a reasonable amount of gold.
@darchonyo4 ай бұрын
Another great video, cheers Blelyna!
@gabrielmattos84014 ай бұрын
Hey I cant find the - Forbidden Flame Crimson Jewel with Arcane blessing - Forbidden Flesh with Conviction of Power Is there any other jewels to use?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
I recently changed the pob and it no longer uses flesh/flames. Check poe-vault for updated pob. I'll have an updated video soon.
@gabrielmattos84014 ай бұрын
@@Velyna Cool im following it through got most of my items and cluster jewel. You changes the charsima attribute too? I'm still dying at lvl 17 maps even with all res 75%+ not sure what im doing wrong here hahah
@fg05022 ай бұрын
Any help on getting rage stacks? Im not able to get any for some reason.
@AdulAhmad684 ай бұрын
Having played this skill last league as Energy Blade inquisitor all the way into T17s (Was too lazy to swap to tri-stack for like a whole week) the skill has a lot of small problems. The fact that it's essentially a minion with a dumb AI can cause annoying situations, the 3 tornado limit also feels weird to play around, you're kinda forced to use a supplementary ability. They also feel quite slow even with 20% quality. I can't comment on the damage as that would be more reflective on Energy Blade than on Tornado. Also the visibility is horrible with any AoE scaling, (even without), the Tornado's are infinitely tall so it's 3 fat cylinders covering the entire centre of your screen, get used to not being able to see...
@Arcticun4 ай бұрын
The overall best way to build it is likely either Dialla's or Crest of Desire. Frontloading tons of quality make them quite fast actually and the playstyle ends up being a lot more comfortable as the Tornados tend to intercept things before you can get to them unless you teleport into them.
@AdulAhmad684 ай бұрын
@@Arcticun My main problem was the lack of consistency and not feeling in control, sometimes they clean up every monster, sometimes they get stuck or stupid. Sure if you scale quality they will fly faster, but I don't think they'd feel good even with 40% quality.
@Arcticun4 ай бұрын
@@AdulAhmad68 I played it as an elementalist so I had more than enough area to not really notice stragglers, and it definitely felt good at 68% quality, as Crest of Desire can have up to 50% qual + 20% on gem.
@AdulAhmad684 ай бұрын
@@Arcticun Not bad I guess, though it still has the other issues to where I'm not gonna touch this skill again, it wasn't a horrible experience and the damage was honestly great compared to a lot of other skills, but the clunkyness + the visual horror was enough to experience once lol.
@vaalkhana66184 ай бұрын
@@Arcticun got a pob ?
@neuro19214 ай бұрын
Im actualy thinking about a Warden 3 Elements Tornado build, what do you think about this?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Maybe? I think the ranger area might make it a pain to do a pure spell build.
@neuro19214 ай бұрын
@@Velyna Yea, Inq seems to fit much better.
@bboy4583 ай бұрын
Can you swap to Tornado of ET whenever you get it if you get it early?
@Velyna3 ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply, yeah you can use it once you get it. It's sooo good to level with, I love it!
@Sonofhroft4 ай бұрын
Play on manastack hiero last league and it was good till t17 and i got bored so didn't know what in min max inqui seems much easy to start but less potential in aoe. Nice vid anyway subscribed 👍
@kernergades4 ай бұрын
Hey question does avatar of fire make all tornados fire damage??
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
It will only convert half.
@leagueplays21004 ай бұрын
Couldn't you use ascendant for this too? starts out around good nodes
@kingconair1964 ай бұрын
What is the reason for killing all bandits and taking 30 life mastery over siding with oak?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
tbh, there really isn't one. Just forgot about the change, thanks for pointing it out. You could potentially have both.
@dyderikm58194 ай бұрын
I just found out about this skill (ToeT) and I've been looking into a bit, but I wanted to play it with traps, would it be viable to do so? My thoughts were playing it as Assassin power charge stacking, however I do not know the mechanics well since I've only ever played Tornado Shot or ED/Contagion. Any tips?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
@dyderikm5819 you can only have 3 tornados up, so traps wouldn't be be great
@toba58784 ай бұрын
are you squishy just in the beginning or always? -like - will you feel tanky at some point?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
When are you feeling squishy? when you switch over to petrified blood early it can feel squishy
@toba58784 ай бұрын
@@Velyna not "switched" yet had a rough leaguestart - played lacerate bleed - what was rly a struggle for me - feelt bad dmg and hated the playstyle rerolled tornado - but to my shame - used the mathil "leaguestart" one - found yours after i reached maps mathil builds/"guides are most quite low info + i dont like the 1000 buttons you have to use XD so i guess it try to grab some money -and switch to your variant - not so easy - this necros keep the body armour price up XD i know - you have some "starter" gear etc. but i rly dont wanna go from leaguestartgear -> rerollleaguestartgear-> switch into "startergear"
@tonysmith77084 ай бұрын
It's very very very squishy, i had made some minor adjustments and gotten it to same dps with 50k EHP at level 78, playing it in hardcore
@viniciusbignardi46803 ай бұрын
Can this build be done as fresh ssf?
@Velyna3 ай бұрын
Honestly it would be a bit difficult
@Scheckler274 ай бұрын
What gem to use before empower?
@Meisen19774 ай бұрын
You end the video saying we want the one spell block notable on the vanity, but if i understand pob correctly, that gives us 5% spell block, and we're overcapped by 9%... So that node only gives us the increased defences from the shield?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
I'm over by 9% because if I lose the 5% from the node than I'm actually undercap by 1% due to glancing blows lol
@Meisen19774 ай бұрын
@@Velyna Makes sense :) TIL
@pilot73504 ай бұрын
I watched Ziggy D play around with Tornado a while back looks fun but i duno if it does enough AOE damage with tons of mobs or like ya said will be good vs bosses cause of auto target
@vazik_cze4 ай бұрын
Hi, can this gem be obtained in normal lab?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Yep, but it's better to farm merciless lab for it since you get more options therefore a greater chance in turning a non trans gem into the trans version.
@Horcsogg4 ай бұрын
Isn't Crest of desire gonna be better for this build? Otherwise the tornadoes may be too slow, no?
@kippakeppa17314 ай бұрын
Did you kill ubers with this build? Is it a glassncannon, or how would you rate it's defense? I would like to lvl to 100.
@syahidirhassan48464 ай бұрын
Theres another varient of this build from kr that pretty much reach 30m dips with like 90k hit point when the gem came out... So yeah it can be pretty tanky.
@soulstealer56254 ай бұрын
Ive seen talk of tattoos, didnt see em on the patch notes so how they dropping this league?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
I think they're going to come off the ship. I'm not 100% sure but I saw them listed in the new market
@turbol60023 ай бұрын
What about the bandit mission? :P
@Velyna3 ай бұрын
So sorry I missed this, you can either take oak for 40 life and ignore the 30 life mastery or just take a point. Up to you
@FluffmanPOE4 ай бұрын
This was my 2nd build of the league, invested roughly 70 divine into it and it is really bad for the amount of currency u slap into this. even with a lvl 30 tornado I was not able to get a somewhat comparable damage to other builds and map clear speeds. and the constant mana issue when u spew out more tornados because they go into a diff. direction than u need them makes u go crazy. it was fun for a couple hours but thats it.
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
I've been changing and updating the pob for this build over the last week. I don't think I've spent anywhere near the amount you have and I'm having a great time. I didn't experience any mana issues at all until I recently took out inspiration but it was a ez fix.
@tZork3k4 ай бұрын
Interesting build! did not even know this transfig existed. deffo on my all to long list of possible starts now xD
@Frankertons4 ай бұрын
What map mods do you avoid with this build?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
No regen, no leech, ele reflect (well it can be done but you need to get the pantheon and either wear Sibyl's Lament), reduced block. I mean - max isn't that great either it's very rippy but you can do it.
@Frankertons4 ай бұрын
@@Velyna Thank you, I appreciate it
@Holborovv4 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with the Life, What is making it stay at 50%?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Petrified Blood
@Toothbooths4 ай бұрын
Hey would this work as a warden?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Warden PoB now pinned in the comments
@dovahkindragonborn98274 ай бұрын
do you think this will be good with warden?
@matthieusavary9834 ай бұрын
Warden will probably renew some interest for trinity builds, but, if I understand well how the ascendancy works, you'll have to be fast on inflicting ailments, and you'll get a big scale by inflicting several ailments at once. I don't think Tornado will meet this requirement (since Tornado, like hydrosphere, gets full elem convert of one kind, not the others). But elem hit+barrage support+chain+sacred wisps could be very strong there :) (but this build needs to activite wand nodes, and they are far from warden skilltree starting point, that's a cons).
@nathan30654 ай бұрын
I understand the assignment.
@Killingifrit4 ай бұрын
Can you transfigure for this gem in your first lab?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's what happened to me last league
@icewindz4 ай бұрын
can 3 tornados hit the same target?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Yep!
@syahidirhassan48464 ай бұрын
What about warden tornado of turb? With avatar of wilds and those elemental sht
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
I could see it, but ranger league starting a spell? I would rather my league start to be as effortless as possible.
@jordanhamelin93154 ай бұрын
I was honestly thinking of going Scion with Inquisitor/Warden
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
The only benefit you get from warden is the 20 spell suppress and the tincture which would be pointless on this skill. 8% pen and 20 spell suppress doesn't seem worth it to me.
@Horcsogg4 ай бұрын
lal u wanna hear HU HO HA HE HO HU HA every time u cast the skill? :P For that reason alone I would never play a Scion caster, no matter how good it could be.
@tonysmith77083 ай бұрын
I made a HC viable version if anyone would like a peep, like 120k EHP with just under 2m DPS with 5d invested, about 1k life regen/s 1k leech on hit 75block 78spell block
@Velyna3 ай бұрын
you got a pob for that bad boy?
@tunderbeard92794 ай бұрын
ima try ur build :) this league
@heiligeskreuz4 ай бұрын
im still mourning my raider...
@Melancraze4 ай бұрын
I was thinking potential glad tornado as second char. Facetank and stand there. Weapon master for AoE or crit and longer fights attrition. Meme as fuck though
@Nairobi13134 ай бұрын
Wouldn't Warden work well with this in theory?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Potentially, I feel like ranger start would be a pain for league start since she's not really a spell user so getting scaling for the skill would be rough at first.
@shi_crow4 ай бұрын
later im gonna drop aegis for a shaper %life and %es on block because im recooooming
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
God I love that idea!
@metalsteel56314 ай бұрын
i really want to do this build....but this is MELEE LEAGUE. how can I NOT start as melee?!
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
You know it's gonna be expensive
@SMOK3DbySMOK3D4 ай бұрын
Intro pog, build pog, streamer pog. Hyped for 3.25!!! Good luck Vel!! 💃
@Killswitch19864 ай бұрын
Ok so can this be used with the circlet that cast spells with hydro sphere on a tornado shot cold conversion warden?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Yeah but like...why? lol
@Killswitch19864 ай бұрын
@@Velyna it was a question cuz idk wtf I’m doing with it haven’t played in a year or so
@apollodingo35834 ай бұрын
But spectral shield throw
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
Yeah but they killed my raider girl and I don't want to make a brand new bleed sst glad on league start when I have so many builds to update and I feel it's going to be expensive.
@joHnuHor4 ай бұрын
@@Velyna but spectral shield throw..
@Killswitch19864 ай бұрын
Can it be used with cwc cyclone and shock wave ? Slayer
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
I mean it could but you can still only have 3 up at a time
@MWaever4 ай бұрын
Small note but isnt crit dmg reduction 'reduced' not 'less' and as such is additive, therefore not making you crit immune?
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
It is additive up to 100% which is immunity, you'll still get crit but you won't take any extra damage.
@BuzzaB774 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call this "easy gear" or "very little gear" . 11 uniques this rare is beyond anything my poor ass has ever achieved in a league!. Maybe I misconstrued those terms as "budget".
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
They're are no uniques on the league start pob. Unless someone makes Aegis meta it's pretty cheap Dialla's is pretty common. The hardest is spending time getting the colours. Crown is also a cheap unique, the corrupt can bring up the price for sure but you don't need it. Circle of Guilt - no one has ever cared about a circle of guilt... Bottled Faith isn't needed to end content Progen is definitely not needed Fobidden Flesh Flame I talked about in the video as not necessary. Watchers eye - ok the vitality mod is like really really good but it costs 70c to 150 I saw when I looked at offline prices. The vanity is ok an important one but again even with the notables you want, offline people 70c to 1D Stormshroud probably a few D I used none of these items for my 4 watchstones. If you want to push top end content you might have to invest into things like your wand but I mean you should anyway?
@tytusdezoo38074 ай бұрын
Thanks nice build 👍sub arrive🙂
@matthieusavary9834 ай бұрын
Love tornado, and the build seems very solid, but lab-only gem doesn't match league starter needs, imo :). Tornado is hardly ever played as a main spell, and I think it's very cool to change things and show it can be mained (just like Void Sphere, in its lab form). I will surely start with an Elemental Hit Warden (to test the new ascendancy, but avoiding the crowd who will massively try Lightning Strike builds with it :) ) but then try your build as a second character. It seems definitively fun to play. GG.
@snatcher814 ай бұрын
Getting the gems is usually really easy to farm at league start.
@matthieusavary9834 ай бұрын
@@snatcher81 Well... I know a normal lab is about 5-10 minutes to complete (or even less as you level up), but at this point, it's one of the most boring part the game to farm, imo (and I play SSF). Sometimes, I wait till lvl 50 or 60 to start lab, just because I hate this part. Last league, I wanted to get lab variant of Void Sphere (I've got a lovable build around this, even not really meta), but I gave up after 12-15 tries. I'm really fed up with lab ! And, well, OK, lab is easy to farm. But, depending on the build I start and what time I give to the new mechanics, I can go through the 10 acts in about 8 to 12 hours. Don't really want to farm something before endgame. This league, I will play normal, not SSF, because I want to try the new trading system, so that I eventually will pay chaos for my lab gems.
@snatcher814 ай бұрын
@@matthieusavary983 pretty much everyone hate lab, but using poelab and their labcompass tool make it so much better.
@Velyna4 ай бұрын
So I play trade and getting trans tornado is probably going to be super ez, but i was curious how long it would take me in SSF to get it, so I some practice this week and it took about 5hrs to get the turn non trans gem into trans version in merc lab. I imagine though I'll buy it for 1c lol
@mortontony14 ай бұрын
i miss thing. no big stick? no big bonk? we stick league. we burn witch. more bonk.