3% BATTERY LEFT! My Porsche Taycan Turbo S Rapid Charging Experience

[@Shmee150]

I think this is going to work! It's great to experience a rapid charger and how feasible it will be to get on the road with the Taycan in due course. It'll only be a case of time before I'm trying the journey to the Nurburgring and some laps when all opens up again. What do you think an EV Ring lap will be like?!

[@Nord_Mann]

FAST and more compliant than a 911 or a McLaren

[@futte2303]

The heat must take a lot of Range out of The battery

[@Nord_Mann]

But I think unfortunately it might take a while before you’re allowed traveling to the continent due to COVID-19😞

[@snivytepig3372]

I'm looking forward to EV's but I'll miss the sound of a pure engine great video

[@jesperhvid9667]

Schmee, press the 4.40mi/min with your finger and it changes to kwh

[@mrle0719]

"loaded with all of the convenience features, such as the door handles" I'm glad you took the option of the door handles

[@Shmee150]

Those are actually an option on the Taycan xD

[@volvomicke999]

@@Shmee150 Whats the price for that option?

[@Shmee150]

I'm not sure precisely but otherwise you'd have normal handles not the ones that fold in and out

[@memsybabe]

@@Shmee150 ...so if you don't option door handles, I guess you just dive thru the windows, Dukes of Hazard style.... 🤭😁

[@TheSenfwurst]

Porsche Even offers some cars without floormats. A base Porsche probably feels like a rich men’s Dacia. Apart from the driving part. Actually thought you made a brillant joke before shmee came in. Then it became a more brilliant piece of irony.

[@lhecker15]

13:00 it does. You just have to tap on the “mi/min” and it’ll show you the charging power (kW) And you should use the onboard navigation because it’ll preheat the battery for charging and speed up the charging-process

[@maximiliand2939]

Correct, hopefully he’ll see your comment.

[@lhecker15]

@@maximiliand2939 GIVE ME MORE THUMBS UP🤬😜

[@maximiliand2939]

@@lhecker15 Can’t give you more than one ;)

[@maximiliand2939]

But also that’s something you can/should expect from a dealership to show their customers, specially those that are new to EV’s.

[@lhecker15]

@@maximiliand2939 But not in the current times. Just picked up a new car for my younger brother last friday and the only things done at the dealership were: Sign the last document, hand over the keys and show us where the car was parked. So it's not really possible for them to tell you more about your car

[@mexicanspec]

I find it interesting the range icon is still a gas can.

[@NaVesTafaRian]

Just like the save icon is still a floppy disk

[@fatihdundar8359]

That’s because of the turbo charger

[@61akm]

It‘s a charging station symbol as you can find them on official german street signs, e.g. nearby a city charger or on the exit to a charging stations on the autobahn

[@981porsche3]

@@fatihdundar8359 lol

[@Patrick_Schaefer]

Describe a fuel pump... „Boxy device, about as tall as a person, with a cord/ hose connected to it. You put the other end of the cord/ hose into your car.“ Now describe a charging station for EVs...

[@wuchengranschiiet9992]

If the battery is warm you should get

[@songsbyvitali899]

Soon it will turn into a love / hate relationship between you and the Taycan.

[@cmpillred277]

Mostly hate I imagine the way he is already defending the indefensible, I mean over an hour to charge it fully, for people who don't have anywhere to charge at home and that's a lot of people it would be totally impractical as a car to take on any kind of long trip it would drive me mad having to hang around for at least 40 minutes every 2 to 3 hours.

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

@@cmpillred277 If you have off-street charging EVs are a no brainer going forward. We need charging to be available at supermarkets, shopping malls, work car parks etc for those who don't. Imagine you park your car at work for 9hrs and you have a full battery for your journey home. Normally you wouldn't charge an EV to 100%. It's not good for the battery, but also it's not an effectient use of time: much better to spend 30 mins charging to 80% and to make your way. Personally it would not bother me to stop for 30 mins every 3hrs say. It's probably safer to take a break every 200 miles of driving anyway. Have to agree the Taycan's range is dissapointing compared to a Tesla with up to 400 miles. I guess it depends on how often you do long trips!?

[@Neojhun]

@@cmpillred277 Taycan is an impractical car BY Design. It's a crazy fast sports car with lots of compromises for High Performance. It has a freaking 90kwh battery the Ford Mach E would do 280 Miles on the same amount of charge. Range is a non issue when it's that high especially on the UK Isles.

[@aggiewoodie]

It’s definitely less convenient for anyone without the ability to charge at home. I had a Model 3 Performance, and a 220V/30A outlet in my garage, so it was great- I set it to charge to 80%, or about 240 miles and plugged in whenever range was less than 100 mi when I got home from work. Whenever I knew I had a longer trip, just top it off overnight beforehand. And in central/south Texas the Tesla network is more than adequate.

[@cmpillred277]

It's certainly that, I don't think many people would buy it for it's practicality most would probably have another car for the more boring things and keep the Taycan for fun. (if they were rich lol)

[@981porsche3]

Nothing like filling my 14 gallon tank up in 3 minutes, and getting > 300 miles out of it. I’m really not interested in an EV at this point, but the torque is amazing!

[@VelvetEars_]

Same for my daily that I can get 600 miles out of and fill up fortnightly.

[@mrcapello]

I probably would be annoyed too by stopping for charging but in reality how often do I even drive those distances and wouldn't it be safe to take a break after 3 hours of driving? It's just like my powerbank for my phone. I am annoyed that my phone doesn't last longer than 1 or 1 1/2 half days but in reality it isn't really a problem and I hardly ever need the extra power that the powerbank gvies me. I think right now you get used too chargin your car just like you got used to with your phone and in a couple of years the battery, charging and the station network have evolved enough that you can drive 99% of your distances without even thinking about it.

[@damien3689]

actually, when coming home after a full week of driving with my EV, all I need to do is put in the home charger which takes 1 minute and the next morning my car is ready to drive the next full week. So if you can charge at home it's not a big deal, I can say it's even easier as filling up a gas car. An extra advantage is the price, electricity still is way cheaper...

[@HoltAlex]

You won't have much choice soon

[@GeneralGreek]

charge at home over night.......

[@css172]

Imagine getting to the charging staton with only 3% left and only one charger available........which is out of order!!

[@Shmee150]

Yep that would be unfortunate but the apps do tell you that in advance

[@css172]

@@Shmee150 did the app tell you the charger you tried first was out of order 🤔

[@Shmee150]

It did, I only paid attention to the fact that nearly all of them were working and upon arrival didn't think to check which ones might have been offline. That one was actually up and running when I finished so I don't know what went wrong there or if I did something wrong.

[@KristoferOlsson]

if you have a Tesla you can see how many chargers is working how many is occupied. Should not be that hard for Ionity and Porsche to do the same.

[@2rs69]

@@Shmee150 if you close the charging door while the car is plugged in will it close or will it sense that it's still plugged

[@guinnessharvey4476]

It’s fine using your own satnav in petrol cars but for electric ones, you really should be using the cars system for optimising routes/charges/efficiency and thus reducing range anxiety.

[@furmanodell]

This is like watching the dawn of the automobile on KZbin.

[@Genuiini]

This video will be so fun to watch after 15 years. ;)

[@Shmee150]

I'm actually going to be fascinated! Even my ICE stuff from 10 years ago is way out of date now

[@andrewkeith5]

And in 15 years time people still won't know the difference between kW and kWh! In reality rapid charging isn't going to get much better than it is in terms of speed - there is only so much potential to force energy into batteries. What will be different is way, way more chargers - both slow ones wherever you stop overnight and faster ones for really long journeys.

[@damedusa5107]

@@andrewkeith5 maybe a solution would be hot swap battery’s, but you would need considerable more power in a smaller package. So you put your old battery in a charger and take out a new one. So it’s like a communal system. Sadly a battery that could be handled by hand wouldn’t give much range with current capacity. Technology isn’t available right now for long distance travel in a convenient manner.

[@andrewkeith5]

@@damedusa5107 extremely unlikely. It's been tried at least twice - and frankly it would be slower than just plugging in to charge. 30 minutes is not a significant time to wait every 2 hours of driving. And frankly nobody should be doing more than 2 hours driving without a break anyway purely for safety reasons.

[@cmpillred277]

@@andrewkeith5 2 hours!! try telling that to an HGV driver.

[@STANLIZ4]

The novelty of charging at distant stations having spent a fortune on the car, is not my idea of unmitigated joy

[@AZ-tu4wm]

Looking forward to all of the journeys with the Taycan!

[@Shmee150]

Me too, I'm actually quite enjoying it

[@Nord_Mann]

@@Shmee150 there’s actually nothing that comes close. Glad to hear you enjoy it.

[@SegerGiesbers]

Yessss

[@barryausten3578]

Let’s be honest - for most people, owning a Porsche will never be a reality. I’ve also never really ‘wanted’ one, even as a dream car. But that Taycan is something else. The combination of luxury, technology and performance makes it so...alien...that I can’t help but covert it. It’s like a drivable lightsaber - it awakens a child-like awe in me.

[@luckvoltia7316]

Taycan won't be around for long, the whole charging thing seems stressful for tim

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

Makes for more interesting videos! Also, by having an EV he has a foot in the next evolution of cars and attracts a new viewer mainly into EVs. Imagine how difficult it was when cars first launched and there were no petrol stations. Infrastructure takes time.

[@lemongavine]

If he gets home charging, he will find charging to be very convenient.

[@Zed_Zone]

Flipping heck that seems a right faff on. The technology really needs to be improved if plans for 2030 are to go ahead.

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

You'll still have hybrids until 2035 and 2nd hand cars until at least 2050. Unless ICE cars are banned from roads at some point!? By then technology and infrastructure will have massively improved.

[@shayflipz9098]

I hope so because that was a right load of shit

[@TravelwithPavel]

tech is fine, but only for those cars above 60k Euro

[@shayflipz9098]

Agreed which the average household won't buy

[@TravelwithPavel]

@@shayflipz9098 exactly and those that cost 30k Euro are still expensive, but its a huge compromise and life with one will suck. (Zoe, e2008, Ioniq and etc)

[@superfast30]

Seems like a huge hassle unless you have the ability to charge in your garage!

[@paul1978g]

Add to this, that to have the ability to fast charge, you need to have a Three Phase supply to the charging point. Houses are almost 100% single phase supplied, meaning your equivalent 45 minute charge on one of these would take you about 8 hours on a 13a home socket. If you have a higher range, (like the 500 mile I would need to replace my car for work) you're getting closer to 10 hours to charge from empty.

[@Neojhun]

@@paul1978g Umm vast majority of Level 2 Chargers are Single Phase. 240 @ 35amp Single Phase is around 7KW. Charge time entirely depends on the SIZE of the battery. This has a 90kwh battery thus 90 / 7 = 12hrs. Taycan poorly uses the range only does like 220 miles. Other 90kwh BEVs should do 280 Miles for that over night charge. But in the end it's if you don't have somewhere to privately charge like at Home or Work. Currently BEVs are not suitable. Plenty of people have a place to charge more than Automakers can build BEVs.

[@Retrobeemer]

Herkimer Snerd The nearest I usually get to park to my home is 2 streets away so I'll need to super long cable.

[@batandball617]

Every EV driver I know charges at home, some overnight with off peak electricity. Find the app named ‘A better route planner.’ There are numerous Ionity Rapid chargers between London and the Nurburgring on the route via Dover, it shouldn’t be a drama unless you want it to be. Why not reach out to some fellow content creators with EV experience, you could have a Ring Road trip with various types of sporty EV’s?

[@pakpala1]

I'm sure 100 years ago when gasoline cars started there was range anxiety to the next gas station..

[@simonroyjonesuk]

Thanks so much. I’ve had all kinds of trouble with Ionity. The official video tells you not to connect the cable first. Worked like a dream. Thanks.

[@fintan2830]

The re-charging seems like a right pain! A nightmare if you are in a hurry and all chargers are occupied. More needs to be done to reduce the re-charge time nearer to a petrol / diesel re-fuel experience.

[@damedusa5107]

Technology isn’t available yet. They are only good at local journeys where you can charge at home.

[@RUCROCK1]

Think that’s why it better for cats to have a charger at home, think if Tim had one we might not be seeing these small hiccups. 🙏🏾😌Be Safe;-).

[@Dhoing]

Not the best advert for EVs... Process seems tedious. Charge at home: no problem. Charge while underway: no way!

[@Wajang1]

Reminds me of the time we had very slow internet, trying to download something.

[@TasX]

Back when it took 10 minutes to download KZbin on your phone and 1 minute to open... Good ol days

[@TsLeng]

Like doing a torrent and towards the end, seeders drop out lol

[@tombarac8253]

Literally. One day this charging speed will be a joke to us.

[@Ronny_van_Gerwen]

I remember buying a lightning fast USRobotics56k6 modem. Same hell as Shmee is going through right now 😂

[@mclarenspeedtail8988]

"Mommy, why is there a guy taking a photo of his car while charging?"

[@TheEwanMC]

Mum, why is that American kid saying, ''Mommy?''

[@mclarenspeedtail8988]

@@TheEwanMC welcome to America my friend

[@Il_Biondo]

@@mclarenspeedtail8988 the famous America where Shmee lives and where everybody drives on the left, right?

[@mclarenspeedtail8988]

No america drives on the right side. Oops

[@lucianovicencio8763]

which minute?

[@harshjani1357]

There’s a long way to go for EVs. Unless and until manufacturers figure out how to churn out 300+ miles of range and government implements fast chargers at all fuel stations, there will be always anxiety while taking them to longer road trips

[@DrivingGod21]

Very refreshing to see somebody who loves petrol engine so much be so fair and understanding of electric cars. It really is impressive how fast they charge and the amount of stations.

[@johnfarris5439]

This has made so many people not want an EV

[@bagster8660]

He is making it sound stupidly difficult. In reality you turn up, plug it in and its sorted. Tesla have it sorted with their supercharging network. Other brands just want to sell cars.

[@shayflipz9098]

We don't have charging networks in the UK or if we do they are few and far between, this is rubbish

[@tbn22]

@@bagster8660 Lol, if anyone "just want to sell cars" it's Tesla. They literally want you to throw your car away if it gets a small dent. Just like Apple. Get a new one if the old one isn't working like it should. Porsche builds cars to deliver a good product. Tesla builds cars to play with tech.

[@ma77hia5]

So cool, that you let us participate your learnings. The battery was way to cold to charge faster, for sure. If you drive in an energy saving way for a couple of miles, the temperature is still very low. You can check the HV-battery temperature by customizing the right instrument in the dashboard. It's supposed to be at 35 Degree Celsius for a proper charge. Good news: you will achieve this for sure, when you charge on a long roadtrip. You can also see the kW you're charging with, when you press the miles/minute spec in the middle display. Are you sure, preheat/cool is conditioning the battery, or is it only to preheat/cool the interior of the car?

[@simonlapwood3999]

I really hope that people like shmee buying these type of cars will help speed up the process of putting the chargers out in the world

[@DJJumpdancer]

it would be a good thing if the Batteries would be removable so you can take it in your house or apartment and charge it there. it would need another smaller one for keeping the car locked etc

[@simonlapwood3999]

@@DJJumpdancer true. But carrying a car battery won't be easy or small.

[@MrBrettmpollard]

I don’t think the Taycan is one of your top ten cars but your electric car videos are the most intriguing.

[@irish485]

The question I wanted to know which you didn’t answer was, how much did it cost you to charge it????

[@Shawn-ne6ld]

I’m glad you are taking us on the EV journey. I don’t like EVs but the Taycon Turbo S is my favorite EV if I had to choose. Thank goodness I will be dead before EVs are the norm but appreciate you showing us the life.

[@ynothump2566]

Unless I have a charger at home it's a big no no :(

[@artureff3046]

install a diesel generator 😁

[@bradenmchenry995]

@@artureff3046 then what’s the point of going electric if you’re buying diesel

[@cmpillred277]

@@artureff3046 Some people would actually do that as well.

[@cmpillred277]

@@bradenmchenry995 I think you've been had.

[@BakersTaste]

@@artureff3046 I still think the Fisker Karma had the best solution...

[@kimgreen8800]

Hi, it was nice to meet you at Cobham services when you filmed this. Thank you for taking the time to chat. Loved the video! From Riley and his mum

[@Jimmythefish577]

I know it’s still fairly new technology but hanging around for 87 minutes on a ‘rapid’ charger makes it seem hugely impractical.

[@coldworld5]

I think the Tesla is much less than that.

[@potatochobit]

it is his dumb fault for doing this on purpose, most people will charge their car in their own garage so it's fine.

[@robinellard]

And that’s if you can find a charger, wait until 50% of the road fleet is EV. Ever waited for fuel at a motorway station? The average full up is 5-7mins. Now think about people doing an 80% charge in 45 mins. The car parks will be full and people will be queuing hours to find a charge spot (even assuming every spot has a charger that’s working). And for those that say “charge at home” try living in London/greater London and having a spot outside your house.

[@FlyingFun.]

@@robinellard defo got a long way to go. Maybe car ownership wont be a thing though and we will just drive a different car depending on the days requirements but it's a long way off I think. I for one love the idea of an ev instead of ic but not till its pticed better.

[@sv650nyc7]

@@robinellard Once 50% of the fleet is electric, you will be able to charge at each and every current gas station. Selling electricity rather than gasoline will be much more profitable for gas stations (there's barely any margin on gasoline), so I assume they will jump on the charging business sooner rather than later. The free market will sort this out. I predict the "gas" stations will fight to have your business to maximize utilization of their chargers (since they'll likely have a huge electricity purchase contract at rock bottom prices, especially for off-peak evening and night charging or when there's too much electricity available on a sunny and windy day, as will happen often with more renewable energy). They might even pay you to park your car at their station and make your battery capacity available to stabilize the grid during times of high demand. Lots of options for new profitable services in this market. Add to that internet connectivity and AI and you'll be able to reserve your charging spot at the currently cheapest station in your area as you're driving to it. This will be leaps better than the current system of wildly fluctuating gas prices between gas stations and quality issues with different fuels (at least that's the case in the US). An electron is the same anywhere in the world.

[@Geintje22]

shmee, I love that your adding timestamps in the video’s, more KZbin’s should do that!!! Thx!

[@pereldh5741]

Even if they put x10 chargers throughout Europe its still going to be a HUGE amount of waiting for spot even

[@Neojhun]

WRONG, You are not supposed to use DC Fast Chargers as your main charing method. Level 2 Chargers are basicaly just high amperage 240v plus that can be placed in many more location. There already exist 10x DC Chargers in the form of Level 2 parking spaces.

[@tbn22]

No. Most of the charging is done at home. Regardless of the lies that people who don't like the EV idea will tell you, you very very rarely get anywhere near draining your battery. An electric vehicle of any kind, is supposed to be plugged in when you leave it. It will then always be ready to go. Fast chargers are mostly used for longer trips.

[@user-od9iz9cv1w]

So quiet and serene, nothing to distract from worrying about range. :)

[@frankfranco8470]

Welcome back. Big fan from the states 🙏

[@Shmee150]

Thanks, can't wait to be back in the USA

[@antoine.dufresne]

I don’t find the spec controversial at all, I think you have great tastes in specking your cars and this one is no exception. Love it

[@hanlille1395]

Im just thinking about the rc cars i had when i was a kid that took like 6 hours to charge up😂

[@dustintravis8791]

ugh that was the worst... 10 minutes of fun, 4+ hours of waiting to do it all over again!

[@OLahh29]

This is where NIO shines with its battery swap system especially on long trips. Next gen stations coming out in 2021 will only take about 2min to swap battery for a full one.

[@adamciampa8697]

Two words... F that. Tech, infrastructure and reliability just isn’t good enough when dropping that money on a car.

[@scuderia747bhp]

Heck yeah, just imagine 2 kids in a car waiting 45 min to charge my god 😳

[@tbn22]

What a load of uninformed bs. The infrastructure is more than here already. There are Taycan owners who daily drive long distances in their cars without any problems at all. And the car can show you when and where to charge, and guide you along the best route to maximize range when you arrive at a charger. The 2021 updated Taycan is now plug in and charge. No card or apps needed. The car will communicate with the charger once plugged in, same as a Tesla. The world is rapidly running out of excuses to hate on this technology. It's the future. Embrace it and stop crying.

[@kompkar]

starts @9:47

[@controlmold]

Yes it's a new experience but shmee is definitely underwhelmed if not disappointed by the current situation

[@Neojhun]

Then he shouldn't of bought a Taycan, which was massively compromised in Range for high performance.

[@TheTechGiantYouTube]

@@Neojhun I suspect most car enthusiasts are drawn to the performance of such EV's,and not saving the environment or getting loads of miles for a bargain price,so a long range milk float just ain't going to cut the mustard for people like Tim. It shouldn't really be a case of pick performance and expect to waste your life away at a charging station.

[@Neojhun]

@@TheTechGiantKZbin Taycan is in own case where they lacked the technological ability thus was massively compromised. It does not represent other BEVs. E.g. it is over weight by like 300kg, default does not aggressively use Regen, overkill way too wide 285 tires. They could of made the car more efficient closer to 3.5 Mile per Kwh giving 270 Miles. It is currently one of the worst at 2 Miles per Kwh. Making Charging Per Mile much faster. While still be a fun rocket ship with more oversteer playful rear end. This was Not a Trade, this was unfairly compromised.

[@EdvardKhil]

@@Neojhun They could *have

[@benjamin7114]

EVs simply add zero advantages but challenges many normal car users. Saving the planet is the only point of appreciation, everything else just hype you realize you didn't need.

[@galaxiedance3135]

When I see how difficult it is for you to operate a charger, be very thankful for KZbin because I am positive now that there are many basic jobs which you would not be able to do. Thank your lucky stars!

[@doppio66]

I already did 16k with my Turbo S. This car charging over night at home and staying within the range is a great thing. For anything else use your petrol car

[@leored79]

Despite hanging around approx. 90 min in the cold and it going dark, he still managed to say "i'm quite impressed by that..." Easily pleased, this shmee fella

[@stubones]

I just can't be dealing with this if I'm on a long trip. Even a Tesla is too stressful compared to just refueling a petrol and or diesel and being on my way in a few minutes.

[@NunoCamposana]

Tesla Supercharger network is far better and give you a lot more confidence on road trips.

[@stubones]

And it still doesn’t come close to filling my cars tank with 61 litres of fuel in 5 minutes and then not worrying about refuelling for the next 700 miles. Tesla is definitely heading in the right direction though.

[@DjTonioRoffo]

Same thing was said about mobile phones, I'm sure.

[@DjTonioRoffo]

@TFUSION Enjoy your bicycle, a few years from now.

[@adamford007]

The precool / heat button on the console is for cabin heat and cool precondition not the battery , You have to use the navigation system and tell it your going to a charger to precondition the battery. The charging speed is directly related to the condition of the battery when you plug in to charge (proper temp / state of charge) . I recommend you try again using the nav and allowing for proper pre conditioning. I love my tacan and I can get from 10 to 80 in about 23 minutes @ 150 KWH or faster if preconditioned. Love the color you chose. Cheers from the USA !

[@juleswilko]

It does appear that the charging stations suffer from the cold too and are laggy as hell... it really shouldn’t be stingy on the CPU or the weather shielding!

[@MrDarrenNice]

I'm loving these "real world" videos. Well done 👍🏻🙏🏼

[@emmettsheridan4695]

Have not seen a charge station with a roof, overlooked in the rush!

[@vprwave]

Well, since you give pay information before chatging, may as well wait inside the car. Besides, do all bus stops in your area have a roof?

[@jamesf8864]

@@vprwave My experience of charge points is numerous angry EV owners fighting over the one and only functional charger while the other nine chargers are out of order, and trying to work out which adaptor to use and how to get the charging process to begin, because the chargers all have different interfaces and no common payment system etc.

[@WeAreSMC96]

@@vprwave Yes, all of them. Now unless the plug'll automatically plug itself to the socket w/out you ever having to get out of the car, they should really account for the fact that it rains in most part of the world, and for the poor bastards that left their umbrellas at home when designing a charging station. There’s no excuse for that.

[@vprwave]

@@WeAreSMC96 Your comment about automatic plug-ins made me remember: they are currently operating a charging test track for lorries here. It's about 10km on a public Autobahn where lorries can charge overhead, _while_ driving (much like electric trains). Just to say, going to be interesting how charging is evolving - post-umbrella. ;)

[@paulnaylor2656]

Tim you shouldn’t have any problems doing your European road trip. I live near Düsseldorf in Germany and went to see my parents back in the UK near Lancaster in my Tesla and it was simple. Car worked out all the charging stops for me and with autopilot on it was so relaxing. Looking forward to seeing you come over here and by the way you could visit Europe’s biggest charging station which is near where I live in Hilden.

[@MrFizzbox]

Best series you're doing at the minute

[@Shmee150]

Glad you're enjoying the learning journey with me

[@hosannam]

Shmee, I am loving your content and am so impressed with how you have developed the channel and the brand! I am a long time subscriber and was thrilled when you got your Taycan Turbo S. I drive a Jaguar iPace, had it for a year now and love it. I have only done one long road trip which was to Sandbanks from where I live in Surrey. I used the Ionity charger at Cobham service station on the way back and got from 5% to 80% in about 23 minutes, it was incredible. What was even more amazing was that it was free! I think this was because they had just been installed. What was missing from this video was how much you had to pay for the charge?

[@albengeorge]

Next day : taking my Porsche taycan towards the nurburgring The next next day: leaving the nurburgring in my Porsche taycan

[@xmetal280]

I’m sure that this will be repeated, and I apologize if this is predictable, but the Tesla supercharger network really is an amazing thing and why I couldn’t go with another brand. The superchargers are reliable, fast enough and there are so many that it’s not once been a problem to do a long journey (50,000+ miles in my Model 3). Not having a home charger is hard, though, as the ability to plug in each day and always have your car full is a huge difference to overall usability.

[@the72inc73]

Pretty screwed if you get somewhere and the charging bays are out of order

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

yes or which are working are occupied, how do you plan for this?

[@prasannjitsidhu3359]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 imagine waiting an hour to get a vacant bay lmao

[@df238]

Brilliant idea to take us along for the full experience of owning an electric I shall be watching closely as always. Cheers 🥂🤙

[@noughtpoint1gaming247]

Incredible charging speed !! Great Video :)

[@Shmee150]

Thanks a lot!

[@noughtpoint1gaming247]

@@Shmee150 Thank You for replying to me. Can you please do more 675LT and Vantage GT8 :)

[@musicmanbc9613]

These videos are great, Tim! As a person considering an EV in the States it does help with perspective. Plus the Taycan is beautiful!

[@ShawnTheTrail]

I was literally watching as the notification of this video popped up clicked on it immediately and there's already likes and comments 😂

[@Shmee150]

Welcome!

[@futte2303]

The notification come some time after The video starts. In UK time it’s normaly 20.00 In my timezone it’s 21.00 I Think US time is 6 hours delay so 15.00 aka 3.00 PM

[@IKnewMickey]

Same here. Clicked immediately upon being notified. 8000 views already

[@simflan3013]

Shmee says its never been at 100% and the first time EVER it's been 100% but when it was at the barn he showed the battery which was at .....100%!

[@GreenDiesal]

Watching your issues and anxiety with this is giving me some as well. I couldn’t own an electric car without a home charger.

[@megumit2322]

I’m looking forward to seeing your Nurburgring road trip with Taycan!

[@shayan.a]

Always the highlight of the day, a Shmee video!

[@Shmee150]

Thank you for the support

[@yussieb2276]

Ive been watching you for years and I really hope you respond to this comment. Given what a “petrol head” you are (as am I) I can’t understand why you seem to be ok with EV’s and ultimately fully automated cars. We both love the sound of an engine, the feel of actual gears shifting, the freedom of piloting your own car. This is all going away if the world continues in this direction. I can’t do anything about it, but why aren’t influencers like you and many others not up in arms over this. I haven’t heard a single negative comment about the impending doom of cars as we know and love from you or anyone else I regularly watch. It’s like you’ve all accepted it and are ok with it. Could that possibly be true?

[@bigmike6030]

Range Anxiety is very real, you're constantly thinking about it.

[@DJJOOLZDE]

I have that with my cellphone... it randomly shuts off at 35% or lower... hah...

[@HENAEZ]

no you’re not. if you can charge it overnight at home. of course it’s difficult for Tim because he can’t.

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

I've had range anxiety plenty of times in my Honda civic. If I had an electric car I would always be able to wake with a full battery. However, for those regularly doing long trips the charging infrastructure needs to improve.

[@Neojhun]

It's a non issue for BEVs with close to 300 miles. This one has a combination Slow Per Mile charge rate and Sub 250 miles.

[@jtjtrs8806]

Its nice to think we can see the electric future near ahead , the world will appreciate it

[@octaviolavaselli293]

Imagine being half an hour in the gas stationn and not even leaving with a full tank

[@Neojhun]

Imagine having to go to a gas station, eewww. I can have a "gas pump" at my home.

[@tbn22]

Lithium-Ion batteries should never be charged above 80%. He did this to protect the life of the battery.

[@Neojhun]

@@tbn22 That's only for High Powered Charging. Slow Charging is fine if you go up to 95% and instantly use it drive off. Just do not Store it at 95% long term.

[@robertwoolliscroft5657]

I was thinking of a 4s to replace my macan gts, not a chance, who wants to hang around for so long ??

[@Neojhun]

@@robertwoolliscroft5657 Yep problematic 1st gen car.

[@PyroMotteFullHD]

Very fast charging, wow

[@EVHIRE]

Good to catch up and get the Turbo S’s together! ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@Shmee150]

You bet! What a random coincidence to bump into you there

[@DanCollinsPersonal]

Good choice for a Sat Nav. I’ve been using Waze on my iPhone’s for years and can’t complain about it at all. I’ve got a five year old Focus that doesn’t even have Sat Nav, so the phone goes on my dash as soon as I need it.

[@docslambo2937]

In a previous video the car was at a 100% after being plugged in overnight I think. So not the first time :)

[@robmarchiori]

Interesting to essentially see you figuring out why Tesla is years ahead of the competition:) Consider the Model S Performance can get 400 miles on a charge! That’s double the Taycan. And the super-changing network is worlds ahead in terms of reliability (and you can still use everything else too). Not to mention it will rip off a low 10 Sec 1/4 mile too. And the new Plaid version will have close to 600 miles on a charge. This is not rounding errors. It’s Tesla, then all the other EVs when it comes to practical ownership. Range is just not an issue in the Tesla where it’s still a big planning headache in everything else. It be great to see you address this in one of your videos now that you are getting more familiar with the Taycan. I hear you generalise “EVs” a lot based on your Taycan experience. Just consider that’s like driving one ICE car and drawing conclusions on everything from an economy car you your Senna. Love your work on the channel!

[@fishler1]

I get range anxiety even in my petrol car. This is my worst nightmare.

[@tronderikbrekke8792]

A small tip, if you indeed feel like you're pressing the lift button, all the time, while you drive around in London, you could well indeed setup the individual mode to have the car lifted at all times, and use that while you're in the city. I'm fairly sure you should be able to do that.

[@tronderikbrekke8792]

Not to mention you could actually go into the suspension settings and raise the car there. It will hold that setting as long as you don't change mode.

[@Jay-nk6dm]

Im starting to feel that the extra range of the model S, along with the improved performance of the plaid version, along with the supercharger network, would make ur like dramatically easier

[@KeithAJohnson]

Beautiful car. Thrilled to be able to follow along for your ride.

[@Shmee150]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@JamesWebbFitness]

34 minutes for 150 miles?! That's so impractical for any use outside of a routine daily commute even if you have a charger at your home. No thanks.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

In the U.S. the average daily commute to work is 16 miles (Covid notwithstanding), so 32 miles round trip. If you charge up at home the battery is topped off and always full, so 150-175miles per day is more than enough for most EV owners. If it doesn't fit your needs, choose a different car. That's OK.

[@diddy2612]

Yea they definitely got to work on the charging time for these cars. For the money you’re paying I figured it would be much better

[@martynGB]

In UK where or how exactly can you plug your car in, most people don't have detached houses with garages..

[@lewisvincent7479]

@@deanmcmanis9398 you’ve literally just repeated what James put? Or can’t you read?

[@101realtor]

True enough on if it doesn’t fit you then choose another car. If you can charge at home, I don’t think it will be a problem for 90-95% of people. I’m a real estate agent and do a ton of driving. The only time I really got too low for my comfort is when I decided to go on an unexpected trip, skip charging on the way because I had enough range to make it home and then I cracked a crown on my tooth and had to go direct to the dentist lol. Made it all the way there as Tesla has chargers everywhere but my only range issues in a year and a half.

[@BigEvil55]

Hi Shmee, glad you are liking your Taycan this far and getting comfortable with driving an EV. As stated by another comment you can click on the mi/min in the Touchscreen when charging to change the unit to kW/h. If it wasn't the charging infrastructure in this attempt that was limiting your charge speed, it surely was the battery temperature. The battery temperature is a crucial point when trying to charge an EV fast. You can configure it in the PCM to get your current battery temperature shown in your right gauge of the instrument cluster (where the state of charge is also shown). The optimum temperature of the Taycans battery is about 32 degrees celsius. This temperature will be reached when driving for a longer period of time on the country road or the motorway. It can be sped up by setting your desired charging station via POI Search in the navigation system as your destination. Then the car knows when a charge will happen and will automatically preheat or precool the battery to give you an optimized charging speed. I myself have seen 260 kWh charging speedes in the Taycan multiple times. This makes the charge an easy 25 Minute stay and the car really usable on road trips. Cheers!

[@thezoexperience1]

Me, an American: "How the hell is he going to get in the car?!" 2:30 Oh, that's right...

[@garylawton230]

I’m British and recently spent about 5mins trying to get in the wrong side of the car on Cyberpunk 2077 😜

[@andreas4991]

Hi! Great vids. I have the Taycan Turbo. Great car. A few tips. While charging, if you press the text that says how many miles you get per minute, it will show you how many kw it’s charging with. Also if you tell the cars navigation that you are going to a charging station it will preheat the battery in advance and the charging will be much faster. You can see the battery temp on the third dial under “information”. You might already know. But just sharing 🙌🏻😊

[@eamoman651]

I know it's early days but this is way to complicated just to "fill up" your car and then not be sure that it will work when you get to the charge point. It doesn't seem to be the way forward IMO.

[@Shmee150]

It will be in a few years, this is just the process for being an early adopter for sure.

[@tbn22]

That's just a lazy comment, and an excuse to cling to the defunct gas burners. It's as easy as plug in - wait - unplug - GO.

[@eamoman651]

@@tbn22 Edit * It's as easy as plug in. Is it working? Oh no it's not I've to go to another plug in again. Is it working? ok now it's working. I just have to waste an hour of my life on. some inconvenience.

[@scottwills4698]

@@eamoman651 if you can charge at home and don’t do 200miles plus very often an EV is good now as you can just plug in at home when required - my friend charges his model 3 once a week for example. It will be a few years until people without home or work charging will make an EV work.

[@tbn22]

@@eamoman651 People travel many miles daily in Teslas without complaining about it. Also, a lot is wrong with this video. 1. You never charge a lithium ion battery to 100%. It causes accelerated wear over time. 80%, no more. 2. Funny how he didn’t know to preheat the battery before charging. By now it should be obvious that any kind of appliance works best when it’s heated. Same as a combustion engine. 3. Getting to 80% takes half an hour which is not at all an inconvenience if you travel across the country. 4. Without a home charger any EV is pointless. Enough said.

[@mjmirza88]

That was close.😬 Im glad you're in to ev now.more power and more road trip to come.wishing you a merry christmas! 🎄 cheers 🥂

[@TheTerrier]

can see a lot of EV owners getting in to dogging to pass the time when charging

[@kairojya]

Since Porsche publishes the usable kW range they allow users to use, does it mean that regularly charging to 90-100% and leaving the car sit at that “high” SoC for extended periods would not be as bad as doing the same with other EVs? I have a Tesla Model 3, there are endless discussions on this topic but it seems the consensus is to only charge beyond 80% with Tesla vehicles if you intend to use that excess state of charge (SoC) soon after the charging has finished. Many owners like to stay in the 30-70% range daily, and choose to only charge a bit above what you’d need to get to the next DC charger when on longer drives as that’s the quickest. Check out Bjorn Nyland’s channel. It’s a great resource for all EV owners.

[@coldworld5]

Could you tell us how much it costs to “fill it up” from 3% to 100% I’m still confused as to how much it’s costs to fuel an EV in the UK.

[@johnwilliamson8110]

Agreed. Plus what about the “cost” of getting to the charge station and back . Could that be an extra 25%

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Looking at the Ionity website, if you're not on a contract, their super-fast 350kWh chargers cost 69p per kWh - which is WAY more than most 'rapid' chargers at about 30-40p per kWh, so you're really paying for the super-fast charge speed, in the same way you would be for 'super-fast broadband' etc Therefore, with, say an 85 kW charge = 85 x 69p = £58.65 which is about the equivalent of 11.5 gallons of £1.12 per litre fuel, about the cheapest you can get in the UK presently. Therefore, for about 200 miles of range, that equates to an ICE car doing around 17mpg, which sounds terrible, in all honesty, when Shmee's McLaren Senna should do around 22mpg for the same performance. But, at a 'more normal' 40p per kWh rapid 150kWh charger cost, which would take about 40 mins to charge the Taycan - enough for a comfort break and coffee after 3 hours of driving - the Senna would have to be doing around 30mpg to be as cost effective...! You pays ya' money - you takes ya' choice...

[@coldworld5]

@@jonathantaylor1998 cheers. Still can’t really understand the KwPH thing. I’ll have to educate myself on it more. I kind of don’t understand if it’s really that much cheaper or not

[@rynman3905]

Really starting to appreciate the consistency of your channel. By far the best in my opinion! 🇿🇦

[@Shmee150]

I appreciate that!

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Some pro Tipps: - configure your right instrument to show battery temperature: for best charging you want 30 degrees celsius - charge planning with integrated navi might preheat the battery like Tesla for best charge speeds - configure your range mode speed limit to higher than 60 mph - tap on that miles/min middle display to switch to kW indication

[@Shmee150]

Helpful, thanks!

[@cblack772002]

Completed my first long journey with Tesla M3P recently. 450 miles and started with car @ 100%. Total charge time was 40 mins (Bathroom + lunch accounted for 20mins ish) returned home with 25%. So I'd say 10 to 15 mins slower than using my petrol car. Bonus ! it was 1/4 of the cost even using Superchargers.

[@BakersTaste]

Thanks for convincing me I don't want an EV yet, Tim!

[@ashokkumar61118]

actually ev are good not this 😂

[@Dutchforces1]

So glad to hear you're enjoying the Taycan. Going by my own experience (owning an EV) I figured you would like it, but I was still nervous to head what you'd think as there are still many harsh critics and skeptics (which is usually justified to some extent) especially in this car enthusiast scene. Stay safe mate!

[@nicholassmith7048]

The problem with today's EVs is that you have to revolve your life around the car instead of the car revolving to your life, which a petrol or diesel car does.

[@oliverl2172]

Uhm, it depends. I drive an electric car and it works perfectly fine for me.

[@WardenClyff]

I think charging at home is pretty damn good

[@AK-zd6yr]

Absolutely not true, if u actually get a good EV. My biggest concern with his Taycan series is exactly this generalisation u just made, based on a really poor example of an EV.

[@martynGB]

@@WardenClyff for most people in UK charging at home is impossible

[@danny-couture]

Thanks for doing that video Shmee, very informative, however it's sadly very much cemented for me that I will continue to avoid EV's for as long as possible, just some very quick maths here.. the charging station quoted £0.69 per KWH if you didn't have a contract, you took 90kwh from that, which would be £62.10 to charge up. if you do the national average of 12,000 miles per year you'd need to fill up 60 times, meaning you'd waste 4,260 minutes, or 71 hours per year waiting to charge. This would cost you £3,726 per year. My daily driver is a 1.8 petrol Honda Civic, it costs me £45 to fill up (40 litres roughly) and I achieve 450 miles to a tank. I would only need to fill up 26 times per year, each fillup taking no more than 5 minutes. That's £1,170 per year in running costs and approximately 130 minutes or just over 2 hours of my time. Not even factoring in that the Porsche is around £140,000 to buy, and my little cheap and cheerful Honda cost me £800 to buy 3 years ago. I would say electric has a very very long way to go, and needs to rapidly drop in price before the everyday person could afford one. and I'm talking sub 12-15k which is what the average little hatchback town car would cost, especially if we are likely to be priced out of owning a petrol powered vehicle in the next 15 years or so with ever increasing taxes and insurance etc. Interested to hear your thoughts on that. :)

[@davidl2048]

You have talked me right out of an electric car. There is no way I could deal with that anxiety all the time.

[@Shmee150]

Is it really any different to a petrol car? My worst anxiety has been a few times with the Ford GT which goes a shorter distance per 'fill' than the Taycan does

[@saheel1850]

yeah.. 60 minutes charging for only 200 miles of range, assuming you're at a super powerful charging station which of course is not that common

[@Shmee150]

You're not being entirely fair with that comment. Realistically you'd do the 35 mins to get 175 miles of range, the rest was 'just because', which is probably less long than you'd stop on a realistic journey of that length anyway for some food and a breather - I know I do.

[@ieditedmyname289]

@@Shmee150 Or what do you think of hydrogen fuel cell? Theoretically similar weight to an ICE system and similar performance to any battery EV. You should contact Toyota to have a go In the new Mirai!

[@blckbldng]

realistically, electric cars shoul be used for daily commutes and charged at home during the day and/or in the office during the day.

[@christpherhill1398]

I like how you changed the Taycan from gray and drab to hot and cool and the SLS is going to sound cool with the new speaker

[@iainbarlow7977]

Still can't imagine keep stopping on a long journey, so much more convenient with fuel

[@KristoferOlsson]

if you drive an Tesla model 3 longrange over 1000km (110-120 kmh motorways at legal speeds) it will be around 10 hours. (fastest ev to do 1000km) a normal hybrid would take 9.15-9.30 hours. If you want to stop and eat once the time would be almost the same over 1000km. If you drive one of the worst EVs like the old Nissan leaf 24kw you would loose 4-6 hours in 1000km. But that car is was not made for long roadtrips. Batterys cant take the heat and rapidgates after 2-3 chargingstops.

[@ronb4633]

@Shmee150 Tim as others have said that you can get the kilowatt display by simply pressing on the miles per minute on the center console. This also works on the Porsche Connect app. Also the preheat button in the car is only for cabin preheating it does not affect the battery except secondarily because current drain will warm it slightly. To keep the battery you have to use the onboard navigation to a known DCFC or you Sport+ mode as you suggested. That information dial on the dashboard can be changed to add a battery temperature, I find that very handy. You want to have 85F+ charging at a decent speed. I have had my Taycan at 1,2,3% for DCFC, I find it's range estimates to be very accurate. Also I get around 250 KW charging quite regularly though California temperatures are not as cold as what you are seeing right now. I think with some planning you will do fine on a road trip to the Nurburgring. On the unplugging thing, when you press the button on the Taycan the first time and the light turned white and the light above the plug socket turned on then the car has released the latch and you are free to unplug the car. I totally agree it is a learning process, I have had my car for 1 month and thoroughly enjoy the learning but especially the driving. You also may want to pickup a Tesla Destination Charger adapter for the Taycan. Then stay at a hotel like Tiergarten which is next to the ring and has Tesla chargers which would give you 11kW so at least you're 100% each morning.

[@JonnyBooth]

A 1 hour stop every 200 miles would drive me crazy if I was on a long road trip. I love the idea of an EV but I don’t think we’re there yet.

[@KristoferOlsson]

if you learn how EVs work then you would never stop for 1 hour every 200 miles that would be stupid. you would stop 30 min every 170 miles. Keep the charge betwwen 10-70% leave before the charge speed throttles to much.

[@JonnyBooth]

@@KristoferOlsson you make stopping for 30 minutes every couple of hours on a road trip sound so appealing when you put it like that. 👎😂

[@KristoferOlsson]

@@JonnyBooth stopping every 170 miles is nothing weird. most people do that in a gas car to. to go to the toilet and take a bite to eat and drink. But EVs are not for everybody. if you drive 8-10 hours with a peebottle in your car EVs ar not for you. in a Tesla model 3 long range you will loose around 30-45 min over 1000km thats 1 stop to eat and your almost on the same time.

[@Mumin121]

You wait for NIO to come europe they have battery change stations :)

[@scottwills4698]

@@JonnyBooth in my Model 3 LR AWD I never went lower than 144 miles available range when road tripping only charging when I wanted to stop for a break and just leaving when I was done, at peak rate a Model 3 can add 1000mph so you are never charging for very long.

[@tentotwo8290]

Tut Tut Tut, did you enter a yellow box junction without making sure your exit was clear? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@dunes7]

Watch the video again, his exit was clear, he just had to wait for a gap to turn across. This is within the law to do in the UK.

[@tentotwo8290]

@@dunes7 “The basic rule is that you are not allowed to stop in the box. To achieve this, you must not enter a box junction unless your exit road is clear. Where you're turning left or going straight on, this means you'll be able to drive through the box and get out another side immediately.” A quote taken from people who know.

[@dunes7]

@@tentotwo8290 This is from our Highway code: "However, you may enter the box and wait when you want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming traffic, or by other vehicles waiting to turn right." Though the condition of entering the box is of course that the exit you are going into is clear enough for the length of your vehicle.