3 Bell Ends Talk About Usyk Beating Fury Again

[@PropaBoxing]

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[@datgameus]

TYSON FURY: THE MOST OVERRATED HEAVYWEIGHT IN HISTORY!!! 🤣

[@datgameus]

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[@datgameus]

tyson fury kept locking usyks gloves or grabbing usyks gloves in the 1st round using his fore arm and his side to lock usyks gloves then he'd punch him aka mug him ..tyson fury is a dirty fighter ... I've only ever seen this done in a movie called gladiator 1992 boxing movie with Cuba gooding junior

[@datgameus]

fury extra weight made him immobile and slowed down his punches ...I think usyk was slower too because he put on muscle so lost some flexibility

[@datgameus]

why does tyson fury keep making fun of usyks eyes ????? dysfunctional eyes etc.....

[@Rumpleforeskin77]

Dubious was a total sausage for getting in there and mouthing off ..Hope Parker irons him out

[@Daz912]

He has autism throw him a bone

[@luker.6555]

Can't be too mad at him, it's a convention of the sport after all. They're encouraged to be sausages.

[@LKeet6]

Come on, he was made to do it. So fake.

[@LKeet6]

Come on, he was clearly made to do it. So fake.

[@johnmichaelson9173]

He's a proper dickhead but Frank probably put him up to it. Yes I also hope Parker gives him a hiding.

[@Crackpunch]

Guy on the right looks like the lost Klitschko

[@peterruff5810]

It's lucky they are talking about Usyk then isn't it.

[@datgameus]

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[@EJBoxingLive]

🎉 spot on 🎉

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

Hes jewish?

[@aliegg4]

😂

[@chrisjenkinson7059]

The UK sports media seem to conveniently overlook the huge physical advantages enjoyed by Fury. Three and a half stones in weight, seven inches in height and eight inches in reach! Fury and Usyk are not really in the same weight division and yet still Usyk won. Twice! Well done Oleksander.

[@stevenglass2629]

Yeah I saw someone say in a comment that the stats don't show that Fury's power shots were a lot more powerful than Usyks, no shit he weighed 60 pounds heavier.

[@Frip36]

Agree. That's the point I emphasize as well. If Fury were legit he should beat a guy Usyk's size decisively. I don't want to say fairly easily. But for sure decisively.

[@brianbell3836]

Wow, Chris! Didn't they tell Usyk that his opponent was bigger? He must have been surprised.

[@Dukestboy96]

​@@brianbell3836missing the point massively

[@annmahn6091]

It takes a lot more energy at his size, come on. Not many men that size can last 12 rounds.

[@johnboyginger]

50lbs heavier. 6 inches taller. Grew a huge fuck-off cushion on his face. Shorts up to his neck. 3 months isolation in camp. And he was still massively outclassed.

[@SzaszaG1]

Rabbit punches and all the tricks in the book and still....

[@hellohello-qo5vq]

Huge cushion 😂😂😂 come on don't be silly

[@johnboyginger]

@ if Fury wasn’t being pandered to, he’d have been told to reduce his beard like any other fighter.

[@drayzorn]

Fuck-off cushion 🤣 you got a bit too much cushion in your skull if you think it matters! Uysk, cornerman Russ Anber and God knows who else were not bothered with it, why are so many people making a point of it? Anyways, much like that kid who threatened Santa, he punched his beard off!

[@boxingmonkey8621]

Fury had an airbag on his Chin Still couldn’t help him Laurel & Hardy shorts Probably the biggest in boxing History

[@rosewoodsteel6656]

The robbery I saw that night was the Fisher/Allen fight. Allen won, hands down. The judges were either blind, bribed or stupid. -Disgusting.

[@LewiiiG]

For real mate I can’t believe the decision

[@Thetache]

Fast Eddies last cash cow so the judges were fully briefed on not derailing the rickety thin gravy train....BOSH

[@redemissarium]

do they do AI judging/scoring fisher/allen fight as benchmark?

[@michaelthompson6885]

Well said.

[@Shaunymac10]

Stop the cap dave didnt do anything for the first 5 rounds then he cought fisher and dominated for 4 rounds fisher won the 10th simple really clearly dont know what youre talking about

[@patrickwhelan8118]

Jeez, been waiting 24hrs for you lot. Best boxing channel out there

[@ZSTOREY]

These 3 boys are the best. Promoters give them tickets and hospitality for all the fights. We need this content in our lives.

[@bendybruce]

Tyson's legacy is not intact. Had he been willing to show even a little bit of class after this fight I would have felt very differently. But all he has done is confirm exactly why so many of his fans have abandoned him.

[@pennyhobbs7267]

Tyson is a great boxer no question, lucky he doesn’t need you to validate him !!!

[@bendybruce]

@@pennyhobbs7267 Nice straw man. Where did I say Tyson wasn't a great boxer.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Fury showed respect to Usyk, gave him a hug, raised his hand. Anthony Joshua threw Usyk's belts, swore at Usyk's team and falsely accused Usyk of racism

[@loratomothudi4985]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandmaregardless Fury got his ass beat

[@bendybruce]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma I don't see how pointing out someone else's bad behavior excuses Tyson. That's called whataboutism. And raising someone's hand while you are with them and then stabbing them in the back when they are not there is two faced scumbaggery.

[@bluemarvelous]

"Legacy intact"?? He gave AJ a fake deadline and went on to fight Chisora charging his fans a record £35 to watch it. He ducked undisputed by moving the goal posts every time Usyk agreed to the deal. He would've kept on ducking him if the Saudi's never got involved!! He spent the majority of the Klitchko fight running away and doing jumping jacks. Then he ducked the rematch and popped dirty!! He beat Wilder who got exposed as soon as he came up against top ranked opposition!! Fury is a good boxer but very overrated!! The people who dont want him to fight AJ are afraid he'll get knocked spark out.. Which will make them look clueless for backing him for all these years!!

[@Barney-ii1no]

I didn't think he was a ducker before but its obvious

[@andrewpaterson2270]

Why do you not like travelers

[@keepmesecret]

It was joshua blm speech that caused this all, no way fury wins. Fury can't take a punch anymore, his movement overrated so if he comes in light he'll just get punched about. If he comes in heavy , his movements even worse, and he still can't take a punch anyway, so still the same situation.

[@tobiorola5318]

​@@Barney-ii1no he was it was so obvious okay then why didn't he want to fight usky in the beginning????

[@schnozz87]

Spitting straight facts pal

[@fabianhermsen1225]

Love you blokes as always. Agree on Wilder, never wanted the AJ fight and turned it down twice, once he admitted it himself for everyone to see on Twitter. Greetings from germany and happy holidays

[@Dukestboy96]

And there's still a massive group of people thinking it's all AJs fault

[@noctislucis5862]

I think the vast majority of people have Usyk winning both fights by a wide margin. It’s only the biased British media that are saying it was razor close and Fury should have won. Fury was the challenger this time and he needed to take the fight to Usyk and take the belts. He didn’t do that, so if you have swing rounds they would lean in favour of the champion. Fury also had all the advantages in this fight, in height, 4 stone weight advantage, reach advantage and even nearly 2 years in age. He had his shorts pulled up to his nipples and he still couldn’t defeat the much smaller man. The punch stats show that Usyk landed more punches and was far more accurate. The judges had it unanimously in favour of Usyk and so did the A.I bot. If these facts were in Fury’s favour the media wouldn’t shut up about it. It’s ugly and disgraceful.

[@chrisfairfield1198]

This is spot on mate.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

LMAO! It wasn't just the British media. According to CompuBox, Usyk and Fury landed similar number of punches on each other in the first fight. The rematch was similarly close, 7-5 to Usyk

[@redeyexxx1841]

I'm not British and I think both fights were very close but I still got Usyk winning both fights convincing by 7-5 scores.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

You are acting like a Fury hater by bringing up Fury's weight, height, reach advantage and position of his shorts, as if any of that has relevance in terms of judges' scorecards

[@lllllahwhwg]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma Nah he is just stating facts

[@Elnont]

Usyk has cemented himself as an all time great imo. Undisputed cruiser and heavy weight champion, dominant win after dominant win and zero losses. GOAT feats.

[@user-we1sv5ud3h]

Fackin hell let's have it, been waiting for thess three geezers to talk usyk vs fury 2

[@TFN_Venom]

I got so excited when I saw this, merry Christmas, and HAPPY NEW YEAR

[@salvitoripopadillo4539]

Love listening to you guys. All the way from the middle of America.

[@BoyeeSmudger]

Mexico?

[@Frip36]

@@BoyeeSmudger Lebanon, Kansas. Say a prayer for Salvitori.

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

Saying Dubois is the best british heavyweight currently is premature

[@SuperMikeFraser]

Yeah to me it seems very similar to the Joyce hype a year or so ago. Dubois is good but I can see Parker beating him. Even if he does he needs to step up a couple of levels before I think he's near Fury.

[@acliffy7939]

I agree with your Joe Joyce comment 100% ​@@SuperMikeFraser

[@Portekberm]

The only one with a belt…

[@thewanderingalbatross8371]

I think they mean because hes got the belt

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

@@internal_force_fitness781 By getting dogwalked by Usyk? At least Fury was competitive

[@rufus1346]

Fury would rather dodge AJ whilst telling everyone how he would have beaten him over taking the risk of being exposed again. Overrated load mouthed clown.

[@Cwill-q3c]

Well said bro....fury been ducking aj for nearly a decade...fury so overated it unreal

[@MyattWaxwell]

Gotta acknowledge the fact that Fury failed a drug test before and after the Wlad fight that “win” should be turned into a NC

[@nmarcus7233]

Everybody forgets that

[@Barney-ii1no]

coke tho wasn't it? that's a bit different lets be honest, him having or not having coke in his system had 0 effect on the fight

[@throwdownthenhoedown9074]

​@@Barney-ii1no coke in your system has zero affect? shhhh, buddy.

[@lrockyfan5106]

@@Barney-ii1nodoesn’t matter. Mike Tyson’s win over Andrew Golota got turned into a no contest because he had weed in his system, WEED, if they are that strict then cocaine shouldn’t have been any different.

[@iwanvickery6547]

@@Barney-ii1no shouldn’t even be released to the public unless he fought the actual fight on Columbia marching powder.

[@pldcarn37]

Regarding Tysons legacy, I feel as though it's more tarnished by who he hasn't fought as apposed to who he has. Going 24 good rounds and coming up short against the clear best fighter of this generation in Usyk is much less of an embarrassment than defending your world championship belt against the likes of Chisora when tougher, more deserving opponents were out there. Still the second best heavyweight of this generation for me and a once in a lifetime athlete.

[@itsinthetreesitscoming7431]

A "once in a lifetime athlete". Evidently not.

[@pldcarn37]

@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431yeah fair enough maybe twice in a lifetime. I just meant a bloke his size moving how he moves he’s unique. none other like him

[@WhyHelloJill]

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how much of an absolute monster Moses Itauma is? For a lad who's 19 years of age his hand speed and punch power is ludicrous.

[@DeuceMS]

25:58 Still an asterisk with the Dubois fight? Mate, do me a favour... FFS you lot just cant get over the fact that Dubois won 1 rnd. The ref called it low and the rules were followed for up to 5 minutes to recover. Usyk ended it with a Jab TKO.... Asterisk, piss off. All seriousness, Dubois really only kind of won 1 round. And did get TKOd. Not really questionable at this point. But, his last few fights have been wildly different. I just dont think Parker is going to be as easy as some have made it out to be. Parker by UD.

[@brianbell3836]

Dubois knocked Usyk out.

[@DeuceMS]

@@brianbell3836 uh.... if I remember right, the ref called a low blow. Then given the 5 minutes to recover, stated in the rule book. Usyk won nearly every round then KOd Dubois. Dont get it wrong, I said after that fight DDD could be the future of the HWs. But he lost that fight. You cant get a KO when the ref doesnt stop it. Delusion is what is wrong with boxing. People dont know the rules.

[@Dukestboy96]

I get why people can't get over it. Never seen Usyk hurt so bad, it wasn't an act. Yes it was an illegal blow but the punch didn't actually hit him in the balls it was to the body. Had Usyk shaking in fear close to his hometown. And while Usyk won convincingly dubois did better than most expected and still had success in a lot of rounds just not enough to actually win the round

[@DeuceMS]

@@Dukestboy96 DDD did enough in 1 round to win the round. The Judges gave him 2. But Dubois still got KOd... Yes, he landed some punches but there is no argument for that version of Dubois in that fight. None. The punch still was on an upward motion, you can see it pull up on the shorts, which means the protector, which means balls. Its not hard to put that together. Hitting the pelvic region with the kinda punch Dubois has I bet does hurt. Also, Dubois had already hit Usyk low a few times, very clearly. I guess the ref had enough of it. Good on him, to many refs just verbally warn way to many times before taking action. Also, I expected DDD to do better than that. I though he would be the toughest fight Usyk had (to that point) at HW. Not that night. Maybe in the future.

[@brianbell3836]

@@Dukestboy96 Dubois won by a knockout. Low blow? Don't think so.

[@noctislucis5862]

Should you really be giving Fury so much respect for the fight being competitive? The man has all the advantages over Usyk. Massive height advantage, massive weight advantage, huge reach advantage and he had his shorts pulled up to his nipples.

[@user-xm9ms5dl8d]

Height and reach are equal to speed it's how you use one against the other

[@mattsavage9960]

Yes fury was about 275lbs as he was definitely wearing a heavy leather jacket he had 2 or 3 layers of tops on for a start. He isnt that much heavier than AJ he is 250-260lbs. And fury is normal 260-270lbs and has weighed as low as 253lbs in the second wilder fight and has weighed as low as 245lbs before. But there's between 10-15lbs between fury and AJ. Even Usyk himself has said twice after fighting fury that he is and has been the toughest fight he has had. This fight was a clear usyk win 116-112 and at best 115-113. Either way fury as much of an idiot he is, has showed he is the 2nd best heavyweight we have seen this era. And is dam hard to knockout completely cold he always bloody rises. But he has better footwork, shot selection, movement a better jab than AJ and all except Usyk. And Usyk is a special all time great boxer and that is cemented way beyond doubt.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Anthony Joshua had the height, reach,weight and age advantange over Usyk but he got humiliated by Usyk twice. Turki, media, sanctioning bodies, judges and the ref were biased towards Anthony Joshua but he got knocked out cold by Dubois 😂

[@badgasaurus4211]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.GrandmaNo one is talking about AJ

[@BoudicaJ]

@badgasaurus4211 He is, literally everywhere...he's utterly obsessed xx

[@happyChappy96621]

Tyson can’t be the second best HW of this generation, he’s got 3 wins against Del Boy, 2 of those fights didn’t need to happen. He’s ducked out the rematch with Klitschko, popped for PEDs, ducked fighters like Zhang,Parker,Joshua to a lesser extent. He’s an excellent boxer but he’s an even better promoter. Usyk is the best HW of this generation. A champion in the ring and a champion outside of it.

[@johndoe9142]

And furys ran him very close twice so ye guessing despite all that he is the 2nd best heavyweight of his generation after all

[@dontaskme7004]

He looks like a novice. A punch is a clenched fist landing with the knuckle section of the glove, most of Fury's strikes are open handed forehand slaps and backhand flaps. Watch in slowmo, go through frame by frame, he can't punch.

[@ikechukwuvictor4233]

@@dontaskme7004😂😂very true. Heavy man throwing slaps instead of punches. Absolute bollocks

[@supplementinfowars1577]

@@dontaskme7004 I am looking at this comment section specifically . I think this must be a channel for special needs people to discuss boxing, the 3 guys on the video and the people watching would get bullied so bad on proper boxing channels lol

[@billdoor3140]

​@@johndoe9142fury had 8 inch reach advantage, height advantage and 4 stone on Usyk and got bullied. Fury is 2nd best? So he's beat 3rd best? Whos 3rd best then mate Peneta? Walin? Shwartz? NGANNOU! 😂

[@projam7534]

The propa curse is becoming a reality, first Ben Whittaker now Johnny Fisher

[@travisgotch161]

14:08 Furys legacy is one of the most inflated in the last 20 years, stands only behind Wilders. He definitely has good/great skills but is his legacy is wasted missed opportunities. Old Klitschko, Deontay and who…… Sad because if he chased the fights instead of ducking he possibly could have a great legacy

[@Frip36]

The Brits want SO BADLY to elevate Fury to legend status. You can sense the pain in their voices trying to justify it. 😆

[@BoudicaJ]

@@Frip36 I effin don't, that is frankly not true, at all. I'm not blind. Fury has always been a ducker, totally overrated, disrespectful...boring. Never ever liked him, so you're wrong.

[@FearNot777]

Got to be honest, never liked fury, even when he became champion. Found him an intolerable narcissistic abusive thug. I was always waiting for this moment, and usyk, what a champion of a fighter and a man.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

narcissistic abusive thug? Fury is a humble and good natured man off camera. Usyk said after the fight," Fury is my best friend, He talks a lot but it's all for show. He is a good man"

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Legends like Ali and Mike Tyson would give casuals heart attacks with their insults and abusive language 😂 Fury does the trashtalk to sell his fights. He has never said a bad word about his opponents after the fight. Chisora, Wilder, Klitschko etc tried to talked ish about Fury after losing but Fury ignored it

[@FearNot777]

@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma ali and mike tyson (apart from his lennox lewis rants) have nothing on fury. They didnt get as feral, abusive and expletive filled. Nor were they that delusional to not concede defeat and give respect to the winner. Fury is a madman and disgrace, most unlikeable fighter of modern times, and im not alone. Oh well, hopefully good riddance to the thug

[@ChingChangWallah.]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma Are you saying the born again christian plays the devil for coin?

[@Bevzthejcs]

Oscar De Lay Hoya was interviewed later and said he thought Usyk won lol so bricktop was just talking shit. Dubois would have been told by bricktop to go in there afterwards which is disrespectful to Usyk AND to Fury which just goes to show how much he really cares about Fury. Usyk is a legend and proved it, Fury boxed really well and was trying everything but just couldn't really land cleanly no Usyk and he was knackered by round 5. Usyk did all the quality work and just kept that pressure on throughout. One thing that struck me... Usyk clearly learnt a lot about Fury from the first fight as this one was a lot easier for him.

[@nikikipullan8355]

Yep saw that! Frank it's embarrassing..!

[@Frip36]

"Fury boxed really well and was trying everything." But he wasn't trying everything. He fought a bit timid.

[@dublin7]

Fury's legacy is beating Wladimir Klitchko, beating Wilder who cannot box, and then hand-picking opponents until he got to Usyk and then he got shown that their is levels to the boxing game.

[@unbabunga229]

40 year old Klitchko*

[@lukasdeak3885]

​​@@unbabunga229who beat Povetkin 2 years prior and Haye 4 years prior, yeah

[@unbabunga229]

@@lukasdeak3885 Klitchko was a great boxer but 40 is 40

[@PJBlick]

Like Usyk. Our Bert CANNOT be denied! BOSH! (Also Dubious need to watch out for Parker before even thinking of a rematch. Merry Christmas all!)

[@bomberbolton]

People forget what happened after Usyk got up in the Dubois fight

[@paulfolan69]

Tyson robbed dubois robbed ..... usyks a thief !

[@BernhardBernard]

Yeah, they also forget the mat was soaked with water from the pouring rain... Next time Usyk will absolutely school Dan... Again

[@danceswithferrets]

Dubious was getting pasted in every round, Usyk will take him to the cleaners if they fight again.

[@celicasaur]

Uncle Propa & Team....please don't ever stop your style and keep making these videos!!! 🤩

[@BucephalusHume]

Even TNT commentary was so biased, they had absolutely no clue. Scored it Fury. Won't be buying on prime again lol. It was a close fight. But Usyk just played it so smart, really aggressive start, fury had some success, then Usyk really unleashed the tank in final rounds. Youd need to be blind to think Fury won.

[@Lostitalready001]

Merry Christmas lads 🎉 pods should be longer, could listen to you guys chat shit about anything .

[@Alvo-dj4si]

Just about to go bed now I got to stay up an extra hour, cheers lads

[@oliverjames7315]

Tyson's legacy is a tainted win against an ageing Vlad and 2 wins against Wilder who obviously was never world level. He fought two genuine world level fights and lost both of of them clearly.

[@mm2801]

Exactly furys a cheating fraud

[@benscott1982]

So true I don’t know why people are so hopped up on the farts of this lumbering oaf of a man, no skill whatsoever it’s a grand delusion I swear

[@thanevakarian9762]

Congrats on the new king of England. When’s Usyks coronation?

[@danielrichardson7151]

Dont know about you lot, but i thought that Propa was about 60 years old from his voice !

[@luker.6555]

I thought all three of them were 😂

[@elitecombine5373]

Agree they just don't look like how they sound.

[@Steve1821]

You lot watch too many movies. Loads of regular people from London talk like this.

[@elvikingobarbaroja]

I thought he'd be a balding plumber with a paunch, not a fucking Love Island finalist! 😂

[@rageagainst5728]

I thought he's black lol

[@tennisone6376]

This channel been growing fast, nice you managed to switch it up with podcast as well

[@hewhoshallnotbenamed5168]

Thank God there are people with actual functioning eyes and brains calling out all the midwits claiming Fury was "robbed". I salute you all!

[@Frip36]

Fury is a very likable unlikable guy.

[@guinessdrinker_azc29]

I can never tell Kaya and Johnny Bs voices apart , glad to see you all in person

[@sakketin]

I'm not from UK my self but I'm happy to see the reaction of most of the UK boxing fan community to this fight. Just like these geezers most people from the UK give Usyk the credit he deserves even though he's beat three of their best fighters. Goes to show they value the sport and humanity over tribal thinking.

[@IFAMILYIH]

TYSON FOUGHT SCARED THIS IS THE TRUTH HE WAS REALLY TIRED AFTER THOSE BODY SHOTS AND DIDN’T LEAN ON USYK AS MUCH AND NEVER WENT FORWARD

[@conorgillespie7832]

He was terrified of Usyk form the beginning... the 70-30 contract shown that.

[@luker.6555]

You must have been experiencing the dodgy DAZN streaming issues if that's what you saw.

[@danceswithferrets]

Fury came forward plenty. The problem was every time he did Usyk found his chin with a straight left. Usyk can come forward and keep his defense tight, Fury can't protect himself against a quicker man.

[@olegkarpovics9429]

Thank you guys for giving all credit to Usyk he deserved!

[@popojaga7312]

It was definily low blow, but by the way the break Dubois got from that was also huge, cause he looked out of breath already

[@annmahn6091]

The fact that Fury is even standing after twelve rounds at 280 lbs is crazy! This was a good fight and he was way more focussed than his previous few. So I agree, his reputation as being a great fighter still stands, even with the loss. Can’t imagine him 30lbs lighter. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@joshbudd7206]

Itauma Vs Hergovic would be a great fight. Let's see what Itauma can do

[@jordanraphael-biggs243]

Bakole is currently going through the same thing as Hrgovic, Bakole is number 1 with the IBF and has chosen that route. They're going through the top 15 to find a challenger, I believe it's so hard to find someone because IBF rules are secondary challenger for a final eliminator is only 35%

[@xfoolsgoldx]

How are there people still thinking Wilder didn't duck AJ.

[@lukasdeak3885]

cause it's not true

[@teaa_x]

fuckin’ get innnnnn, i’ve been waiting for this vid! love the pod boys!

[@notsogoodat]

i think parker beats dubois and on fighting styles parker now vs usyk is the fight i want to see. yes dubois got semi lucky with that shot but its still torn on that one shot what about the rest of the fight? people forget that

[@badgasaurus4211]

Dubois beats Parker comfortably and Usyk has target practice with Parker

[@brianbell3836]

That one lucky shot knocked Usyk out.

[@J.M.Stigner]

Nice one lads, solid scoring, fair assessment of that battle

[@zim-zf7mq]

Fury was, and has been, too heavy. He let his body go.

[@jasonbrown9644]

He’s abused his body for a long time, his lack of professionalism was always going to catch up with him

[@mattsavage9960]

Usyk was the clear winner either 115-113 or 116-112 but it definitely proved that fury is the second best heavyweight of the past 10 years. But Usyk is the best and he is one of the best if not the best I've ever seen as a heavyweight in the second half of a fight those last 6 rounds. Fury is the second best of this era at heavyweight but usyk is a different beast. Well done to Usyk a true class act.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Usyk is a humble, kind gentleman. A true sportsman. Anthony Joshua falsely accused him and Lomachenko of racism and threw away his belts but Usyk is always respectful and good-natured

[@mattsavage9960]

@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma I agree dude, and like your username lol

[@ojogbaneamedu2501]

How decently you do against number 1 does not automatically make you number 2, is Oliver McCall right behind Lennox because he knocked him out once? No. Fury big fights outside Usyk are a win vs an aging Wlad & 2 versus Wilder. No fights vs Joshua, Parker, Dubois, Zhang and more. If you were to list the top 10 fighters of this era how many has he beat? 1 maybe if you’re kind to Wilder.

[@mattsavage9960]

@ojogbaneamedu2501 I listen to the most skilled boxer in the heavyweight division Usyk himself says fury is the best he has faced at heavyweight twice he has said that. As much as I don't like fury, you are an idiot if you dont think he is a highly skilled heavyweight boxer

[@ojogbaneamedu2501]

@ Who said he’s not a highly skilled boxer? I didn’t even deny that he performed the best vs Usyk. The point is just performing the best vs the best doesn’t automatically make you number 2. Ken Norton vs Ali is another example, Ali is considered the GOAT, is Ken Norton 2? Or even top 10? No. Because Norton resume beyond Ali is unimpressive. Tyson Fury certainly has it in him to give Usyk a good fight but matchups make fights, how would he do vs Dubois, Joshua or Parker? Vs Zhang, Bakoli and such, we don’t know.

[@AZBCDE]

I rewatched the fight and the score card was spot on

[@Davinchi-Ventura]

Propa out of nowhere moment of year award goes for fury saying happy new years 8 months early

[@Glasschin2.0]

Islamic new year isn’t the same as our new year. The whole world doesn’t use the same calendar.

[@marcs6338]

Just wanna say appreciate the Propa/Propa podcast. Quality addition to the boxing scene. Not really sure what else to say. Have a Propa Crimbo I guess 🎅💩

[@quinndavid-h7g]

Allen and Fisher was the fight of the night. It was like watching a Rocky movie. Both guys were giving it all they had and although Dave edged it with the Knockdown, it nows demands a return and hopefully they both earn big money! I will be buying a ticket!

[@machidaman]

How do you pick holes in Usyk's record? Cleared out the welterweight division, moved up, cleaned up in the heavyweight division by beating literally the best in that division. Short of fighting every possible contender I struggle to see what else he could do. Fury and AJ, different fish altogether but at least in AJ's favour he didnt do his best to duck everybody.

[@timxavier8922]

These presenters are amazing totally honest nice to see this it’s refreshing to be able to avoid the nonsense we get fed usually

[@manuwilson4695]

Fury is nowhere near even second best. He wasted far too much time dishonestly avoiding the fights the world wanted to see. Only the Saudis really got him off his chickenshit arse.

[@johnfisher4872]

Moses has some Iron Mike Tyson aspects about him. Questions - Can he take a punch? Can he continue into the later rounds? I look forward to his next fight.

[@jezzdavis9059]

Great stuff. Happy Xmas/Newyear lads👍😎

[@tau-ceti]

Remember when Tyson got done for being on the juice? Everyone likes to forget that…all that fake bollocks about wild boar meat n whatever. That to me was dodgy.

[@joestuttard1495]

Something one of you said is really true. It's a pleasure watching Usyk

[@notthisguyagain8557]

Fury looked like crap! He did well in the 1st 4. Had usyk on the back foot. The last 8 he was moving back. All 300lbs. His slick head movement and footwork is gone! Those wilder fights took it all from him.

[@GeorgeLista]

The best of his legacy is the Klitschko achievement and the Wilder trilogy… the rest is hyped pantomime. Usyk was the reality check.

[@SurreyBasements1]

@@GeorgeListayeah but who’s Wilder ever beat? He’s fighting a better a better standard of opponent now which is why he’s taking a few beatings.

[@notthisguyagain8557]

@GeorgeLista he couod've honestly beat him. In the 1st fight he was having massive success with the bodyshots and uppercuts. Got away from it and started head hunting. 2nd fight he throws maybe 6 uppercuts. Reach adavantaged and spent all that time running from a small man with no real ko power.

[@notthisguyagain8557]

@@SurreyBasements1 wilder. Despite his lack of talent. His power more than makes up for it.

[@SurreyBasements1]

@@notthisguyagain8557yeah when he’s fighting bums, when he’s fighting top class fighters he gets found out. Has he ever beaten a top 10 fighter?

[@allanculbard165]

Brilliant boys, All I Want For Christmas Is U...syk! Pissed myself!

[@badlefthook624]

Nice to see corey feldman flew in for the podcast and brought his santa hat

[@johnrobertson8072]

I had it 117-111, competitive rounds but a clear and wide win for the Ukrainian in the end. A.I scoring was interesting, no sympathy or compassion just data, it had it wider than us all and im interested to get more "reciepts" as the lads say but i think its gonna be good Moses is the future of the division, dude has that aura about him, pleasant enough but you can tell he dont play games. Cant wait to see him again.

[@saqib7965]

Fury beat a old vlad and a one trick pony in wilder

[@Elnont]

Btecimir Klitschko on the right ‘der

[@Sonia_Blade21-11]

fury held up this division for years ducking all the propa fights. thank phuck ulot see it like i did 🫡🩷😘

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Anthony Joshua has damaged boxing by ducking Wilder and Fury his entire career. He fought old men, conned the public with his fake humble persona and used PR bots and trolls on social media to defend his duck moves. Joshua lied through Eddie's mouth. He was fighting just 1 mandatory every 3 years for each belt during his time as champion

[@Sonia_Blade21-11]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma totally agree bruv 🫡🩷

[@Jonnysonone]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandmaabsolute bollocks. Wilder was offered a fortune to fight AJ and he swerved it. Fury put fake deadlines on him then ducked.

[@therealbignin]

If Usyk was American or British, people would be saying he was the goat. Because he isnt, he may be lost to history however. Bar some terrible losses, though, Usyk should be considered in the Goat conversation. 🐐

[@BoyeeSmudger]

Agree but It's just the press, not the majority of people. Usyk is class, one of the goats for sure.

[@greva2904]

Usyk is very good, but he ain’t the Goat. Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield would both have beaten him. And prime Mike Tyson before Cus D’Amato died would have demolished him.

[@lukerobinson3983]

Nah anyone who knows boxing knows

[@nishiki7047]

I was ringside with a retired British heavyweight when Fury got beat by John McDermott, Fury got the win , but we were all in shock , that was money that kept his record intact

[@_PatDog]

Some time ago a quiet 18yr kid was beaten to death by a bunch of scummy rats after leaving a quiet family party held in function venue. On the anniversary of this sad event, his obviously still grieving family ask various celebs to simply retweet an appeal as nobody had ever been charged for this cowardly act. The grieving mother received a reply from Tyson Fury, "f#$%off I'm not a grass". He only had to ignore it if he didn'twant to know, after all it was tweet not a summons. That speaks to the class of the man, he has none, and never will have!

[@Sonia_Blade21-11]

@@_PatDog wow. I didn't kno this. what an arsehole of a human Luke is smfh 🫣😢

[@Barney-ii1no]

didn't know about that, he's a bit funny in the head

[@_PatDog]

@Barney-ii1no It was a weird and horrible thing to do. Ignoring the request isn't great but sending that reply to a grieving mother was appalling. Fury is a story of the media brushing his behaviour under the carpet to suit a mental health fairystory. He may have felt low, but you would feel low when serving your nandralone drug ban.

[@kitbarter5334]

Every time propa does a mean tweet interview there is a fraud check. Gotta protect itauma😂

[@raccoonhatcity7627]

I love Dubois, he's a lovable lump. You know Frank told him get in there... but he should have known guy is talking about his kids doing judo, let him finish. Anyways, you can't blame him, but Parker isn't just a speed bump.

[@CC-nj8zw]

Ya I agree, I don’t think Dubois was trying to be an obnoxious prick but he’s just special needs 😂

[@shortblokeonabike]

Paddy Power have decided to honour all bets on Dave as the winner. Fair play I reckon. Calling it a justice payout. 👍

[@terrax194]

The Sky, commentators were their usual Tyson Fury, fan boys. Constantly biggin him up as they ignored so much of Usyk's, work.

[@JM-hp7nu]

Cheers boys, was worried we weren’t gonna get the pod this side of Christmas there! Have a good one gents🎅🏻🍻

[@bg4801]

Cheers from cold cold Canada!

[@capitalcitypunishmen]

It's no cold in victoria bc

[@angusarmstrong6526]

You too lads, have a great Christmas and New Year’s

[@Gblonkers]

Noodle bar ain’t got a chance against Parker let alone man like Usyk

[@Alvo-dj4si]

So happy yous mentioned Dubois because there’s no way he chose to do that himself, they had aj ringside in case fury won and ddd there in case usyk won. Can’t believe the stick big daddy gets

[@jamessexton4288]

It's good to hear some folk talking sense. I've boxed and followed the game all my life and can go back to watching Ali and all the true greats. I'm personally sick of hearing about how great Tyson Fury is. Someone please dissect his record, compared to the true boxing legends. It's crap.

[@minobg79]

Fury is a great boxer, problem is he himself elevated his status to GOATs level, and now he has to pay the price. Worst thing is he could not take a loss like a man, basically talking the same BS as Wilder did when he lost to Fury. This is the reason there is a talk about his legacy, not his skill, rather how he hyped himself up and then could not deal with reality.

[@mikeygallos5000]

Fury is still a beast. He smashes every HW in the world. Usyk is just at a high level of his own.

[@pennyhobbs7267]

❤

[@ManicMarxman]

He needs to prove it, cos saying it ain't enough.

[@lionel9588]

He can't box he's is pathetic. No style .no power. No muscle he's left hand jab is useless. His right hand is the same .no power in none

[@mikeygallos5000]

​@@ManicMarxman Still time to do it. I still see skills in him that are above the others. I would like to see him fight Parker, DD, Bokale, Flip Hrgovic, and even AJ.

[@SuperMickyChow]

How many of those HWs has he actually fought?

[@cobenblack1876]

I love Dave Allen and happy for him that he’s getting so much love atm. As for Fisher; I think it would have been a different fight if he’d have managed to get behind his jab when hurt rather than loading up on everything. Needed to give himself chance to recover a bit.

[@conorgillespie7832]

Get rid of all the belts in boxing ffs. Their should only be 1 "champion".

[@ronbuckner8179]

Itauma is a real threat! I agree, Itauma is an unknown at this point has anyone ever really hit him? I thought Wache would’ve been a test and he destroyed him. He’s sincere in his humility. We’ll all watch him.

[@RT-hh3vl]

Clearly an Usyk win, UK is shockingly biased, all the pubs in Morecambe are on high alert! 😂

[@liamcollett4537]

Every country is biased, that's just how it is

[@DAVISakaDRIP]

“John is he winding me up?” I’m fuckin cryin

[@woahblackbettybamalam]

Propa looks like Pettigrew from Harry Potter

[@Popmonkey69]

Lukes Legacy Highlights : Beat a past best Klitschko Beat a past best Wilder (with the help of some some sloooow counting first time) Dodged Joshua Beat Ngannou (comicly only by judges fear of scoring it as a loss) Openly admits to giving his mate an easy payday fight Tried to dodge Usyk but got his bluff called and beaten twice (even with the ref helping in the first fight) Best of our generation... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Jedtumble]

Spot on

[@saqib7965]

Fury gas tank doesn't go past 7 rounds

[@noorhussain3127]

Santa fury's coming home Greeeeeedy bellys coming home USYK:I will not leave you alone run belly run belly 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️😭

[@jamesjamieson6181]

Sugar Joseph Parker gonna wiped Daniel Dubious out ~ technically better , better feet , higher ring IQ & experience vs power . Late stoppage ( or DD quits) to Parker . Merry xmas lads

[@badgasaurus4211]

Dubous will iron out parker, he hates pressure, he got beat by Whyte who is a solid level below Dubois

[@jamesjamieson6181]

@badgasaurus4211 That was before Whytes legs went , if the fight had gone one more minute, hed have stopped Whyte. DD quit against Joyce, he was gonna quit against Big Baby & quit to pressure from Usyk. Parker will stop DD

[@thanevakarian9762]

I used to love fury then when he started with the ducking especially against Usyk I lost any love for him BUT he’s still one of the best HWs to do it. He gives any hW from any era trouble.

[@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.Grandma]

Fury-Usyk undisputed was the quickest made mega-fight in recent boxing history. The fight was signed within a year of Usyk-Joshua rematch. Anthony Joshua ducked Usyk for 2 years and only agreed to fight him following his lackluster performance against Chisora

[@badgasaurus4211]

@@Anthony.Joshua-s.lrish.GrandmaIt is fact that Fury ducked Usyk to fight Ngannou

[@saqib7965]

Would of loved seeing Usyk fight in the golden era against the 70s heavyweight Ali, George Foreman Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes Ron Lyle, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Jimmy Young Oscar Bonaven, Joe Bugner, Jerry Quarry.

[@pennyhobbs7267]

At least 5 of them would have beat him in my opinion!!

[@milesbringhams6869]

He wins a few but loses to some as well.

[@milesbringhams6869]

For me he beats Oscar Bonavena, Quarry (close fight), Bugner, and likely beats Shaver's and could out box Lyle. Shaver's has that serious punchers chance tho.... Jimmy Young? He'd give Usyk fits and may outland him but Usyk's volume and aggression would probably sway the judges in his favour. Norton? that's another super hard one to call but I would probably favour Ken's high pressure style to see him out muscling Usyk. Foreman? Usyk has an outside chance... but he would probably be stopped on an uppercut or beaten to the body. Frazier? terrible style match up of Usyk, Frazier by KO. Holmes & Ali? both are better, quicker, and harder hitting than Fury with the stamina to go to war for a full 15 rounds. between the two I think Usyk would do better against 70's Ali. He probably loses to both tho.

[@hughtube5154]

Frazier could handle Usyk's pace, and his left hook would've emptied Usyk's stamina and agility. Ali could handle Usyk's speed, though the head movement would have caused him trouble as Ali rarely went to the body.

[@saqib7965]

​@@milesbringhams6869good knowledge

[@freddiefreeman4119]

For Moses, Ruiz, Miller, Anderson, Ajagba. Jonny Fisher was very lucky. Dave Allen could be the next Chisora if he looks after himself