The Anthony Joshua Debate

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#danieldubois
3 idiots debate Anthony Joshua and his defeat to Daniel Dubois, What does he and Eddie Hearn do now?
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[@whrlds]

30 seconds into the video, and there's already arguing. That's why I love this pods keep it up lads

[@97TheWatcher]

He cost me £40 so he’s finished

[@Nik-rj5kc]

same lol

[@devanman7920]

💯 😅

[@JaydenJohnson-v1j]

Try £240 for me 😅

[@rememberitsallagame]

haha, for me it was a tenner on dubious within 7 bosch....... £80

[@devanman7920]

@@rememberitsallagame great shout! I honestly thought AJ would whoop him 😅

[@Kurlach]

They look like typical labourers who regularly go to Spain and get pissed up and sound like it as well 🤣

[@TheDreamer1980]

First time ive put a face to the voice , i assumed you was late 50s/60 😂

[@philipcrewe540]

Lol 100% me too 😂

[@MAT-wn5fr]

I never thought he was that old lol but I didn't expect him to look like that. Idk what I expected him to look like tbh 😂

[@baabaabaa-El]

Rounder! The 3 of em... the other wk when they showed their heads, l was going..naa that ain't them!!

[@TechnoLawyer]

I seriously thought it was a few guys in their 40s or 50s. Not early 30s. 😆 No hate - I’m 46.

[@LunaticTheCat]

I think everyone did 🤣

[@user-we1sv5ud3h]

Johnny B did predict it, he just felt pressured by you guys

[@khhaos865]

Soft

[@JonathanVegaa]

Found Johnny Bs Burner account

[@SweptDust5340]

real funny guys, time to stop with the AI videos we know those voices can’t match 😂

[@williamdante7470]

Lmao they really do sound like old builders trapped in young men’s bodies

[@alfaomega5532]

😂😂😂

[@Kuwaitisnot_adeployment]

😂😂 I know I just can't accept it

[@logoutofmyaccountweirdo]

​@@williamdante7470idk the main guy looks older than i thought, middle guy sounds older, last guy age matches his age unless his face is older than his age.

[@stevegander920]

No defence, hands too low, poor footwork, terrible performance from AJ. I didn’t know Dubios had that in him, never seen anything like that from him before. Shane McGuigan was spot on.

[@rcfools]

Predicting the outcome of heavyweight boxing has made a fool out of all of us over the years. Great fight and can't wait for Bivol vs Beterbiev.

[@gardensaladdude90]

Same I don’t follow either of them so I’m assuming it’ll be 50/50 lol

[@archivey-h8e]

Beterbiev knocks out Bivol in 60 seconds, lets go.

[@baabaabaa-El]

​@@archivey-h8eHahahaha!! Naa mate, not rnd 1... surely!! Good fight though!!

[@alihughes5516]

@@archivey-h8ePut the crack pipe down mush. Bivol on points.

[@kinganton616]

@@archivey-h8ebivol peices beterbiev up

[@nickg2117]

Quality as always lads! What a fight. Big up Turki!

[@OdetoRon]

Cool to finally have some faces to the voices, been listening to the podcast for a few months🥊

[@TechnoLawyer]

Dubois really did sort of look like a giant version of Mike Tyson in there.

[@Leonidas6674]

At the beginning of his career that's how they were touting him that he was the UK version of Mike Tyson. But that was when he was fighting and Nathan Gorman he hadn't gotten his man strength yet now it is clearly on display. When he fought Joyce he was like 21 or 22 the guy was a few years older than a senior in high school for crying out loud he didn't have the power he has now.

[@TechnoLawyer]

@@Leonidas6674 it’s a bit weird we’re making the comparison of a 6’5” 250lb dude to Tyson I guess. For me it was the pressure, the way he seems to duck into the pocket against a taller guy and throw rights over the top. He really looked great.

[@llanero4069]

Uncle Propa. Your vids and humor will never be the same after i have seen you. For that reason. I had to rewatch several of the vids. Now it is more insane 😂😂😂😂😂

[@paulhelsby]

First time actually seeing 'Propa Boxing' creator on camera and i'm propa shocked.... From his brilliant voice and narrative I thought he'd be a mid 50's East End geezer who had a comedy night going on down the local club.

[@waynewoz]

The clock in the background says 1:30 and the lamp is on so I presume it's early hours of the morning how the hell do you all sound so sober I'm usually talk s%@t in the kitchen at that time 😂

[@michaelhill2300]

I won 190 so I’m happy lol… Anyway Daniel also had the ref against him, the maturity level of him to ignore the ref and just stick to his plan, without complaining I thought was also impressive, he also seemed more exp than AJ, when he stumbled from AJ shot many guys would of stood and banged but he backed off to clear his head and got AJ to come at him, very impressed, 2026 DDD vs Itauma for undisputed I reckon

[@rakim126]

Congrats on the win. Don't prop bet that 2026 prediction lol.

[@michaelhill2300]

@ rakim126 honestly just look at it, Frank has both men, he can get Mosley a title as long as Usyk beats Fury because he will retire and vacate and Franks no idiot if he has not DDD and Moses he will not crack under pressure and listen to people tell him put them in there now, he will see the bigger picture of how huge a Undisputed fight will be lol, I might send my idea to Queensbury hahaha

[@Alex-cw3rz]

I think this again shows that activity is very important look at the development Dubois has gone through and he's had 4 fights in 18 months. I think it could be a smart move to fight Parker and then the winner of Usyk vs Fury. Keeping up the activity will be useful against guys who fight once a year, especially against a great experienced boxer with a unique style. Interesting fact James Braddock The Cinderella Man, was considered retired in the 1930s because he didn't fight for 9 months, they thought he'd never be able to compete at a top level again because of that extended time off.

[@automaticacidemer]

This was the best hour of boxing discussion I have watched, great work boys.

[@murphybartle592]

It was the commentator who first mentioned he looked like a young Mike Tyson

[@alfaomega5532]

One of my new favourite podcasts!! 👍🏾😉 Keep up the good work lads..👊🏾 New sub..👌🏾

[@Zen_Not_Zen]

Usyk beats Fury = Dubois v Usyk Finally, we get Joshua v Fury , then possibly both Fury and Joshua retire

[@jackfrost239]

No shot, Dubois vs Parker, then winner vs Usyk/Fury winner. Otherwise we'd be waiting ages for Dubois to get back in a ring, needs to stay active.

[@Rosseboi]

Usyk already beat Dubois. No need for a rematch, Joshua is shot, Dubois isn't better now than he was vs Usyk. That's the illusion. Usyk needs to retire if he beats Fury again. Sooner or later he will lose and tarnish his legacy if he does.

[@richardmurphy8350]

Fury Joshua has really lost its appeal.

[@binladen2990]

⁠@@Rosseboiyou’re another one who thinks losing tarnishes legacy, Joshua isn’t shot, he was just beat by the better man and usyks legacy is set. 😂 people like you are the reason boxers want to protect their 0

[@binladen2990]

@@richardmurphy8350yeah if you’re someone who thinks losing means your careers finished

[@CyberChatBox]

The best analysis I’ve heard about the fight. You guys are awesome 🎉🎉

[@arthurarsekey6634]

I usually get these right but couldn't see Dubois improving that much and Joshua fighting like he was in a trance. Hands down by him waist, chin in the air, going back in straight lines, no effective defence. He over thought it and froze got bashed and the gameplan disappeared.

[@silviupaceagiu9918]

good one lads, waiting for the beterbiev vs bivol prediction podcast, i hope you keep it minimum 30 minutes :)

[@Insommer]

i got so much crap off my mates for saying dubois had a good chance of winning the fight, felt like i was defending the guy for 2 weeks straight, its exhausting. Now the fights over everyone is acting like it was always gonna happen, it's proper frustrating. Dubois just got a bad rap over the orbital break, end of the day that can be life threatening, and you dont know how bad it is until you get an xray so i understand why he quit, if he goes blind or something even in one eye his career is over instantly, i don't think he beats usyk but i think it would be a much closer fight this time around, bring it on i say

[@eon001]

Ruiz, Wilder, Dillain, Big Baby. If AJ still wants to fight, throw them at him.

[@plainluke722]

Love the new format lads

[@ramsden35]

These fellas are brilliant and the Propa boxing videos are the funniest yet factual entertainment. I’d love to see them do a fight companion.

[@jimmyroberts9528]

Great podcast again lads. Gotta say I'm not surprised with the result,in my opinion AJ is the very definition of a flat track bully,the minute he's cracked he just seems to fold. He's done..

[@binladen2990]

“He’s done” this is why mma is becoming better 😂

[@T.C.-st8uz]

Do rock the house. Anthony Joshua should do whatever he wants. I’m on the couch. Anyone who says that Anthony Joshua should retire can shove it. Let them go watch reruns of pretty boy Floyd’s career. The public needs to let the champions lose sometimes, without so much pressure.

[@binladen2990]

All the people saying he should retire are why boxers don’t take big fights

[@Alvo-dj4si]

Warren can’t make fury Dubois because he thinks Dubois will win. Fury makes warren ten times the amount Dubois does.

[@scootaymildo1070]

But if he chins Fury (not convinced he does btw) he could possibly become the new Warren cash cow, especially if they push the narrative that Dubois really beat Usyk. Fury is 1 foot out the door now I reckon so could be the smart move...

[@LeftMindedThoughts]

Joshua vs Hrgovic winner fights Dubois. 👍🥊

[@LeftMindedThoughts]

Forgot to add a s to fight....😅

[@paulshepherd6482]

Problem with aj he learned to run before he could walk,good business man thats about it 9:04

[@pablonunez137]

First time seeing your faces. Funny that I thought you guys were in your fifties and there about 😅 Love the show! And the vids. And that Dubois won 🤘🏼

[@colinwyatt-goodall4632]

🤣🤣🤣These guys doing the voicover while putting their kids in the vid. Im loving it 🤣🤣

[@JonathanVegaa]

Give me AJ Vs Wilder and Dubois Vs Parker

[@ianwestwick4381]

Love this channel. Proper London Accents instead of the fake put on ones that the kids these days affect. The real McCoy. Love it.

[@murphybartle592]

Johnny B deserves more credit, he basically said he thinks Aj would win but that at the end of the day it was a toss up, and that Dan had a fair chance and the other redaculed him! Now the bastard on the right is acting like that never happened and that he was just as wrong as both of them. Smh. Justice for Johnny

[@PPX14]

The old toin coss

[@loneface]

Might aswell change name of the channel to Propa Aj fanclub haha

[@TheKamar2]

AJ panics every time when he gets under pressure. And when he panics his brain turns off and hes 100% on autopilot. Makes rookie mistakes, gets stiff, slow and hesitant. Doesn't matter how much he trains or how well he prepares, as soon as the panic kicks in its all out the window. Watch how calm fat Miller was when he got under pressure vs Dubois and then watch AJ vs Dubois after that.

[@intrepidbun5002]

yep, go and watch ultra tech analysis for a similar view 👍

[@binladen2990]

If this was true then he wouldn’t have came through against klitschko who put him down, povetkin who cracked his nose and Whyte who had him all over the place, all fights he won 😂

[@rakim126]

Big laughs. Great pod. Love from usa

[@benmartin8172]

If Dubois and Usyk hadn't already fought, everyone would be saying that Dubois is the guy to overwhelm Usyk with his size, strength and aggression. No one touches Usyk in this generation

[@greatthoughts9025]

Dubois probably would. He improved massively since Usyk beat him last time

[@benmartin8172]

@@greatthoughts9025 he lost every round and quit in the 9th. Just don't see it personally

[@Rosseboi]

Can't wait for the Propa boxing Bivol Berterbiev discussion/prediction!!!

[@BLACNWYTE]

It was an bad fight from AJ, his hands were low, he couldn't seem to defend a left cross and he looked out of his depth!!

[@AS-pug]

Wtf I finally know what proppa looks like!! Didn’t expect that! Thought he’d be older and bald for some reason 😂

[@thetony5474]

This is going to sound weird..but the way AJ has been speaking and acting the last couple of years it’s like he’s trapped in a permanent concussion. Something’s not 100% up there methinks.

[@WisdomTeet]

Could be... He does seem to get more and more bizarre. But on the other hand think he's a nasty piece of work who struggles to hide it. He's always acting when he's in public.

[@arthurballs9632]

He's got far too many hangers-on. Although they might be eyeing up DD as their next victim.

[@jjsavior]

I'm glad you picked up on it. I noticed it too ever since BEFORE, the Ruiz fight. Even in the Ruiz fight, if you watch the ring walk, he looked just like he looked in the ring walk to this fight. I think there is some form of neurological damage going on, which also explains his timidness.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Identity crisis maybe?

[@Gematrinator]

@@jjsaviorthe copes unreal😂

[@RM_3D]

100% I thought AJ looked like he was going in for a Spar with a newbie, super nonchalant hands down head up. thinking he gonna throw some flick punches and move around and dodge everything until that punch rocked him in the first and brought him back to reality XD

[@jamessaltlife]

Great podcast. You all let eachother speak, appreciate it

[@charanjitbanga1743]

Love you guys keep it up boys. ❤

[@petermulhall2564]

Got to say boys,the shot AJ caught DD with couldn't have been full power,he was concussed from the end of round one surely?? Love the channel/pod thanks boys👏🏻👏🏻

[@Strangingness]

Joshua's hand speed has always been around average. His foot speed and leg power has always been top notch. He can throw fast shots but only when He uses His legs and His body weight to step forward with it. He's basically a back foot counter puncher that is comfortable holding a spot in the ring firing jabs from a safe distance to land and like space to be able to lunge into a shot. Hurt You then follow up with a combination. Because, trading has never been a strong point. DDD had enough foot speed to keep up and He had better hand speed and tighter punches He came in and threw looping shots and hooks and short right hands with a great jab upon entry. It was the perfect way to fight AJ. Also DDD pivoted with His shots creating angles on an already open defence.

[@jancyvargheese5351]

Bro, I thought you were much older. The voice sounds deep and epic. I didn’t think you were that young

[@Only-One_peroni]

This is a crazy face reveal for me been listening to the pod for ages.

[@Jjpmac1884]

Loving the success gents! 30:31 bang on. I remember staying up and eventually falling asleep 5 mins into Wlad vs Ibragimov - this heavyweight shoot-out is great viewing

[@jeffk4223]

Can just imagine the laughs these guys must have on a night out. Can't wait to use the phrase "give your head a wobble mate" lol

[@winnerwinnerchickendinner-y4w]

48:35 There is no way for Fury to beat Dubois ; he doesn't have the power to stop Dubois coming forward so he'd need to grapple and lean on Dubois. Can he do that for 12 given the hammering he's given his body? Bear in mind too he'll have another load of damage from the 2nd Usyk fight....Dubois wins.

[@binladen2990]

Styles make fights

[@nUmBskulLL]

Mate people have zero memory. How is AJ the biggest hypejob ever. 😂 As soon as someone loses everyone acts like they were never even that good. If everyone is a hypejob, how would beating them even prove anything?

[@Abs-xl4gb]

Who's AJs best win?

[@Glasschin2.0]

Joshua is good a solid top 10 if not 5 but he has always been managed well. He just doesn’t have natural ring IQ and it’s his biggest downfall.

[@bigdaddy4069]

Fight folk definitely are a fickle bunch

[@TheChadChamp]

Wouldve both loved and hated to see how the internet would've reacted to Tyson losing to Buster Douglas back in the 90s

[@jcwork85]

Agreed. If AJ was never good, then DDD's win over him is worthless. I don't think that at all, DDD pulled a solid win over AJ. I still think AJ is top 5 but in the latter end of it.

[@richardmurphy8350]

Something nobody seems to mention: respect to Hrgovic’s chin.

[@screamadelicaprimal1730]

Y'all know it's gonna be Dubois v Parker next! 💯❤️👊👊

[@alextotallytwattss]

WELCOME LADIES AND GENTLEMAN. FOR TONIGHTS STAR FIGHT . Humble pie .😂😂😂 ❤🎉🎉 Love the channel bruh.

[@tSt4RifY]

Good fight! We just need Conor McGregor out of camera shot

[@-xirx-]

All I could think about during the fight was about Johnny B being right on the money about DDD, and getting cajoled into picking AJ by you other two. I heard that exact conversation so many times in the run-up to the fight.

[@LeftMindedThoughts]

The master debaters, at it again....😅🥊

[@boogiebearo3]

Propa )The face don't match the voice 😭

[@g-man4297]

I want to see as many of them fight each other as possible, I don't fan boy or hate on any of them, I just want to see good fights if that means they all get sparked out at some point so be it, we all want to be entertained that's what it's about.

[@LukeHopsonPiano]

I wanna see AJ vs Chisora. Chisora Vs Wilder. Dubios Vs Parker Fury vs Big bang.

[@PPX14]

Tasty

[@elliottgreenwood8425]

I did not expect uncle propa to look like he walked off the set of Made in Chelsea. Look good bruv. I pictured some bald older bloke with a moustache 😅😅

[@chrisdolan9579]

That's exactly what I thought? Ben Davidson didn't tell AJ to just throw the uppercut from distance? Like many have been claiming online? It appears to me like there's a narrative being pushed, where Ben Davidson is being thrown under the bus, in a desperate attempt to take the blame away from AJ. For obvious reasons? It's what promoters do.

[@roydmercer2019]

I dived into this

[@scootaymildo1070]

Propa is like 20 years younger than i expected! 😂

[@MISTERGREEN114]

I swear the guy at 13:02 is from The Chase

[@Jon-gh9xk]

😂😂😂

[@JamalW239]

A lesson in not throwing the uppercut from two far away. Reminded me of Buster Douglas against Holyfield

[@aakhthuu]

There is no shame in loosing but if you claim to be the greatest and at the same time cherry picking easy fights it is karma that you get KO and humiliated in front of the whole world.

[@macman975]

There's shame in spelling losing, loosing though.

[@KBox1991]

Cherry picking? AJ has beat more top 10 ranked opponent at the time of fighting them then any other current heavyweight.

[@tristhekid]

I’ve never understood retirement talk. I’m far from a fan of AJ, I’m what you might call a “hater” but really I just don’t think highly of his skills. But he’s not 40 yet, he’s young enough for a HW, what’s he gonna do outside of boxing? A man needs to have work and for him, boxing is his work

[@richardmurphy8350]

Well he’s made enough money so he doesn’t need to work again. Or his children. Or grandchildren. And continuing work could mean serious health issues, so it’s reasonable for him to consider it.

[@DordonTheGreat]

Uncle Propa! Even more handsome than I thought you'd be! Propa r'ansum! 😂

[@AO_Rourke]

Get in, this will make my night

[@adrianwilliams4505]

Sterep in boys

[@lukamartic4185]

Now Hrgović doesn't look that bad tbh

[@milocooper9540]

No way I'd have put those voice to those faces. Consider me gobsmacked!!!

[@koldimond1100]

Hindsights a wonderful thing

[@ProperRural]

The British border has better defence than aj

[@maxbullman5925]

Could he not have also taken a timeout when he got banged with that low blow?

[@pastorgainz7230]

Is it just me or does Johnny B look like Tom Hollands older brother 😂

[@IggyGoesPop666]

The 3 old men wearing teenagers masks are back

[@IggyGoesPop666]

"Spider sense" ... see the one in the middle is a Tom Holland look a like that you can rent for party's & Bar Mitzvahs 🕷🕸

[@Rosseboi]

😂😂😂😂

[@eol6632]

All this hype your throwing at Dub now will flip the second he chokes out a bad loss in a fight or two. The fighters haven't changed. There's nothing new. What's changed is the amount of hype,simping whatever you like to call it by fans and KZbin channels. Two talented but deeply flawed fighters with a penchant for shitting the bed matched up. Your shocked when the one does exactly whats in their nature? People have been looking at shit for so long they can't tell the difference anymore.

[@rakim126]

Damn i basically agree with this. British hws get overhyped..

[@drewSmith-il2jh]

I watched the fight and thought AJ looked like an old man against Dubois every punch he was throwing looked ponderous and telegraphed. Congrat's to Dubois his jab was spectacular his performance was superb and everything flowed because of that great jab. I would love to see Bakole given a chance to fight the bigger names in the division because everyone seems to be swerving him at the moment.

[@Alvo-dj4si]

How much better ddd was in the hrgovic fight compared to the miller fight was mad, and how much better he was in the aj fight than hrgovic is insane. He’s going to be amazing in his next outing.

[@mrbipolarmattyhoward6071]

Dubious done a demolition job on AJ but like you say styles make fights and heavyweight fights is the division we’re the massive upsets happen any heavyweight can knock out any heavyweight that’s why it’s the biggest most popular division in boxing and they get paid the biggest purses. AJ getting beat is not the biggest shock is the way he got beat. Only thing AJ can take from the fight is he didn’t win the worse performance of the night that went to Liam Gallagher 😂😂

[@nick0is0ace]

16:45 Having re-watched the fight, and seeing the knockdowns from several angles, I think the referee called that touch down as a push. If you watch it carefully, AJ tries to duck under Dubois's shots and Dubois leans down on him which causes AJ's gloves to touch. Not saying I agree, but I can see why the ref ruled it as a NO knock down.

[@guyjackson1261]

I hear the complaining about the ref not stepping in for the knockdown, the ref during Fury v Usyk was criticised for stepping in for a knockdown. Did you guys criticise that ref too? I don't remember.

[@Glasschin2.0]

If anything the ref should have called a knocked down earlier against Fury , the ropes held him up 2 or 3 times before the ref gave a standing 8.

[@Rosseboi]

I still can't get over the fact you're 3 young guys 😂😂😂😂

[@ccayco]

I want AJ Wilder next. Let's just get it over it. IMAGINE is Wilder somehow lands on AJ with intent with AJ's current chin. That fight is pure shenanigans, I'd love it.

[@shambleslongplay3566]

The only thing i called right about AJ vs Dubious, is that Dubious would land the best early shot. I however also said joshua would then realize he is in a fight and come back and win easily within 3-4 rounds.

[@notthisguyagain8557]

Everyone before this questioned his heart, now we're questioning his skills?

[@WannabePlayer18]

Happy to see AJ fight anyone other than Fury or Usyk, but he definitely doesn’t deserve to fight the winner of that fight. If he fights Fury because Fury loses convincingly, fair enough - I hope they make plenty of money and have a good fight. If Fury beats Usyk it would be terribly wrong for Joshua to get an opportunity. You’ve got Parker there who’s beaten Zhang and Wilder recently, Bakole who beat up Jared Anderson, Dubois who’s the IBF champion and has had an unbelievable year. AJ should be miles off the chance to fight the winner even if it’s Fury. Imagine if Dillian Whyte had come back and beaten Franklin, Wallin and Ngannou, then got battered by Dubois, but afterwards landed a fight against Fury. There was massive criticism when Whyte and Chisora got opportunities previously, with far fewer names deserving of a chance at a belt; we’re in a position now where the top fighters are fighting each other - the ones who have won 2 or 3 50/50 fights should be getting the big paydays. Dubois has shown why that’s the case with his performance against AJ. Activity and quality of opposition will lead to better fights. Joshua and Fury are both past their best - it’s another Mayweather and Manny situation. I think Bakole or Wilder vs Joshua both sell and would be good fights. For me, he gets beaten by Bakole, but he knocks out Wilder.

[@tau-ceti]

Was Ben Davison ever decent? He turned Fury around for one fight...but what else?

[@alihughes5516]

He’s got half the best fighters in the Uk on his roster currently.

[@disband_thebbc5933]

What do you want Ben Davison to do get in and fight Dubois on his behalf because AJ can't be arsed to take a championship fight seriously. It probably would of been more competitive if he did 😂

[@rickydhillon4850]

Completely agreed about the people who say he was overhyped or shit. It’s nonsense. But the retirement talk, he took CLEAN shots of one of the biggest punchers on the planet. Even if he fights like he did for Ruiz 2, Dubois on this form is a steam train and keeping him off for 12 rounds ain’t happening. And seeing the likes of Joyce, Chisora etc slurring words after years of wars, it’s not silly to suggest retirement.

[@PK-jv8ux]

Honestly enjoyed looking at AJ fight for a period, but the amount of people saying he’s over rated I have to agree, people say look at him resume a lot of the notable boxers he fought ended up retiring shortly afterwards and it wasn’t from AJ, even go back to his amateur days a lot of people didn’t think he won that fight in the olympics

[@chrisdolan9579]

I'm with Johnny B, on this one! He did want to pick Dubois? And you guys did lean on him to go with AJ?

[@rungeon83]

John spot on, any time John tried to say maybe Dan is looking good, young and hungry, he's moving forward which makes AJ move backwards... every other argument they laughed at John for giving a fair idea of "hey it's HW boxing" and he was "propa" laughed at. I don't think it was "bullying" but it's hard to tell with "propa" lads, "oh fookin ell geeze I was only joking" as long as their mate backs them up in a shite joke, if they don't then it's what? I agree I thought AJ was gonna win, I assumed 9 round TKO, I put money on for Dan to win by tko/ko as 1 quid for 12 quid back, felt dumb not to bet it... but that was £1 I thought was gone forever gone in my head. Now I got 13 quid to bet with lol

[@ramsden35]

I think we all saw AJ delete Francis and expect that to happen to Daniel.