3 Different Ways to Create Dilla's Drunk Drum Groove | Ableton Live 10

[@WillHatton]

Too much talking? Skip to what you need to know below! Timeline: 0:00 - Intro 2:22 - Method 1 - Recording Live 4:32 - Method 2 - The Septuplet Midi Groove 7:34 - Method 3 - Chopping a Sample/Quantize Hack 10:56 - Question!

[@kage-fm]

a key element was missed here - if you’re going to program drunk drums by shifting things early/late, it’s essential to keep some element consistent/in-time, such as the down-beat kick, so that the listener has a reference point. if everything is jacked up and nothing is reliably in-time, you don’t get the effect and it just sounds incompetent. not that i learned from experience…

[@ThePdeHav]

Your absolutely correct. I would add repetition is essential too.

[@tommythecat4961]

Yeah, I'd also say the hard part is not getting the wonky feel, but the instruments to work together. Not that I got it wrong a zillion times before understanding...

[@Elliott.Revell]

This

[@SamSilk]

You're absolutely right @kage. Extensive research on KZbin led me to a book called Dilla Time, it's a goldmine and J Dilla himself defined what he did more or less just like that. Most of the time, he didn't use quantize. He usually started replacing the metronome of his MPC with a hat on the 1/8 pretty straight, then after that, it was human feel and nudge command all the way on select notes. I guess it's important to remember that the MPC couldn't quantize based on quintuplets or septuplets. Those had to be played live. Another part of the drunken feel comes from an offset between the rythm of the drum track and the rythm of the chopped sample. From what I gathered, pitching down the sample was a common trick of his to exaggerate the actual swing of the original sample (for example, a sample played one octave down has all it's timing error doubled).

[@andreteistura8488]

Awesome! I also would like to see how you add groove to 2-step/ukg tracks.

[@WillHatton]

Thanks Andre, I did a video like this not too long ago, see episode 1 of making a UKG track! BUT I’m more than happy to do another video going more in depth on this subject if it’s something the community want to see more of!

[@1of500]

Yes please

[@PabloDeModeOfficial]

I recently discover another method which could be complementary to the third method: sampling a 4/4 sample but then playing it like a 3/4 one. Off course you’ll get the 3/4 swing and not the J Dilla style, but if you slower the 3/4 tempo, the sample will have an unique swing. Great video! ❤

[@rickmason6157]

You just gave us the keys to the holy grail! I done made 2 bangers already this morning using your technique!!!!! After being in the wilderness all these years someone finally dropped true game.Salute and I just subbed!!!!

[@WillHatton]

This is such a kind comment! Thank you, I’m so glad you got what you needed from it!

[@SzaboLevente]

Always appreciate your wise tips. Never stop making your content, and you’ll 100% blow up and can make a living from this, man!

[@WillHatton]

Thank you so much for your kind words and support! Appreciate you!!!

[@_mariacarolina]

Boy!!! Thank you for your perfect explanation!! I'm learning A LOT from your videos. SHOUT OUT FROM BRAZIL

[@WillHatton]

@@_mariacarolina happy to help! If you haven’t seen it already there’s an extension to some of these techniques in my huge sampling video from a couple weeks back! Welcome to the club!

[@ziggy___moon]

I'm late to the game but you are my new favorite youtuber--thanks for the great high quality vids

[@WillHatton]

Oh jeez! That means the world, thank you

[@kingchemist]

that septuplet is fire hadnt heard of that before will def use on my lofi shizz thanks bro

[@WillHatton]

Nice one brother! Yeah it works a treat!!

[@Liam-pk3oz]

Great video man, loved it. To answer your question at the end, I think going in depth on an individual element of production is a really good idea, but maybe something a bit more unique would be better. There's millions of videos talking about the portion of Dilla's discography which has very "drunk" drums, but I don't see nearly enough on how he chopped samples or made basslines - I'd love to see a video on this, so keep up the good work man.

[@WillHatton]

Thanks so much for your kind words and your in depth reply Liam, really appreciate your time! Stay in time!

[@mmaboxing5378]

Amazing video Thankyou sm

[@brsl7401]

Maybe you could make a video talking about the Ableton's swimg/groove option. It's another way to write drums with some flavor in it.

[@louiebeatty3667]

Great way demonstrating how to turn 6/8 to 4/4

[@WillHatton]

Thanks so much for stopping by!

[@snaredrum954]

Levels 💪❤️ - going through a whole track would be great!

[@WillHatton]

Thanks as always! What are you listening to at the mo?

[@druthadude]

I pref the 2nd method. Good stuff man.

[@thesputnikhd6220]

Concise and easy to follow, thanks for this!

[@WillHatton]

Thanks youuuuu! 🙌🏼

[@mrmoccaccino4217]

You sir are the real MVP! sadly youtube doesn't notify me when you upload new videos eventhough i subsribed and hit the bell.. but reddit helps a lot ;) i'd like to see more videos like this, i think it would be nice if you'd keep on doin videos just about the drums but also some about the melody :) this inspired series is genius !!

[@WillHatton]

No - Yooooooo the real MVP! I’ll bare that in mind, thanks so much for the support and kindness friend!

[@samuelnaesen1176]

This is so valuable, it got me reading a lot about tuplets :o Thanks for sharing

[@WillHatton]

No problems man! Glad you enjoyed and learnt something!

[@samuelnaesen1176]

@@WillHatton Is there a way in ableton to change the grid into tuplets?

[@WillHatton]

@@samuelnaesen1176 It gets a little fiddly which is why I use this method but yes, if you go into your midi region and hit command + 3 it'll change the grid to triplet view then right click and hit 16ths depending on your BPM. Or Right click and choose triplet grid and then right click again.

[@samuelnaesen1176]

@@WillHatton oh, interesting. there goes my social life.. :p thanks

[@oederamusic7461]

Would love to see a vid on Dilla's use of a 7 bar loop in Get Dis Money Really smart (and easy!) technique that I don't think enough producers make use of!

[@WillHatton]

The gauntlet has been thrown down!! 😱

[@wm1573]

it's because of the sample

[@desilpierre5418]

Thanks a lot man. Very instructive.

[@WillHatton]

My pleasure, friend! 👊🏻

[@emilyjane7027]

Would love to see videos on Baths or Gold Panda. That kinda leftfield super-textured beat scene stuff

[@WillHatton]

I’m alllll over it 🙌🏼 love both artists, I’ll do some research and look into making a tutorial

[@romey_uk]

Great work

[@ThomasNieminen]

Thank you! Great tutorial 🤘

[@WillHatton]

Thank you, really appreciate you checking it out!

[@FubeXL]

Very good video man !

[@andrewwor7660]

Thanks dude, learned a lot!

[@WillHatton]

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed!

[@wetrot3421]

Great vid, thanks so much!

[@sarkastik_hound_4TC]

great tutorials mate

[@WillHatton]

Thanks brother!

[@nerdcoke4574]

these are really good & informative! cover a lot of detail both high & low :) ayeee

[@Wassambrie]

Thank you ! This was so helpful

[@WillHatton]

A pleasure! There’ll be a new episode later today, hopefully it’ll be of equal help!

[@Wassambrie]

@@WillHatton excited to check out ! ur work has helped so much ! Loyal supporter over here for sure

[@WillHatton]

@@Wassambrie that means so much, thank you!

[@northkaskazini721]

Sun went highest level at 7:48! Mad ill B!

[@huntrrams]

Great tutorial

[@WillHatton]

Thanks for your kindness!

[@danmillward7358]

basically imagine an old donkey carrying a lot weight with a thorn in one of his huffs walking up a mountain...thats the dilla swing

[@JovenDaniel]

nice vid man! keep it up 👆

[@WillHatton]

Thanks Daniel!

[@erolbrown]

Still class. Keep going.

[@WillHatton]

Thanks for always supporting 🙌🏼

[@George-nx8zu]

Are there more examples of J Dilla style grooves that you would play live

[@carloschowell]

Thank you!

[@konczs]

It is amazing how people act like this technique is new when it been a staple of 90's Hip Hop lol

[@jravenmusic]

Love this

[@GrvMUSIC4U]

Awesome

[@mr.fisherman09]

Dope. Any chance you can do this on fl?

[@colinCSGO]

An easier way to get ur sample on the grid is to leave it unwarped and change the tempo. I prefer that method over transposing it.

[@napalimmi]

can you make a method 3 type rhythm midi programming video? Reign Wolf - Son of a Gun is a good example for what i mean. thx!

[@tz1371]

you should do dibiase!

[@SherikaSherard]

Your content is so damn GOOD…. I’ll see you on Patreon! Thank you!

[@WillHatton]

Right back at you!! SUBSCRIBED! Thank youuuuu

[@slowdivisionmusic]

thanks :)

[@ering4651]

Dope

[@neldreamCom]

you, nice)

[@Crowncity]

Sad but thank you

[@finalbreath15]

Ayoo dungeon dwellers

[@alfietaylormusic7511]

Nice tutorial but that’s a very long winded way of doing the hats in the midi roll

[@dark90275]

These honestly don’t work...u a real g for posting this but...the “Dilla feel” isn’t just what u think...Dilla did a TON of grooves...guys do your own digging

[@soular412]

🥾 s and 🐈 s

[@alexandredoyen8227]

Diller

[@KMcirca82]

get inspired to innovate not emulate. no type beats. the 6th element of hip hop is originality. the lost element. how many producers today can be identified without a beat tag just based on their sound? i'll wait...

[@mrfister1899]

Why are people so interested in replication? That's the main problem with the music industry these days. All replication, no innovation.

[@mrfister1899]

The only thing you need to know about Dilla is that he was an innovator. Go innovate yourself. Find your own way. If people don't like it, it wasn't meant to be. Oh well, try something else. Don't resort to copying.

[@WillHatton]

Seems like you’ve put a lot of time into this comment so I won’t rain on your angry parade but imitation is often the road to innovation. Replicating or reverse engineering someone else’s results lead to you learning a lot about your own workflows and what you could do better or improve upon. Everything you enjoy in life comes from replication first and innovation later, y’boy JDilla was literally sampling records that had been recorded by professionals, he wasn’t trying to do everything from scratch! I hope you find some peace Mr Fister.

[@Synik]

​@@WillHatton Well said.