3 DK Tanking Builds Designed for 25man Raids (Classic Wrath)

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@brunoalmeida4063
@brunoalmeida4063 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, great vid. Can you possibly do a full tanking guide, including leveling as a DK? gear, talanets, prof etc. thanks mate - keep up the good work!
@TimHjort
@TimHjort 2 жыл бұрын
I think someone ha already said this and since this video is a couple of months old it's probably something you've noticed as well, but the glyph of Unbreakable armor is not adding 30% more armor, it takes the 25% and bumps it up to 30%.
@imu4869
@imu4869 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks rugs got all you videos saved for wrath can’t wait.
@SuperNaturaali
@SuperNaturaali 2 жыл бұрын
after 6 months , the last spec is the spec everyone uses =D
@liricopetanco6257
@liricopetanco6257 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, if you take the extra dot in unholy tank you can heal 15% of your total healt the same as a blood tank. You only need 1 point and it stack with the unholy dps extra dot
@TheRealBlade_TV
@TheRealBlade_TV 2 жыл бұрын
are u talking about unholy blight or crypt fever?
@Artynos_YT
@Artynos_YT 2 жыл бұрын
Mining is BIS for tanks in WOTLK due to the +60 stam boost. Then run engineering for movement cd.
@Cryptexzz
@Cryptexzz 2 жыл бұрын
Jc = 63 stam from gems Bs = 2 extra sockets which is 60 stam Enchanting on rings = 60 stam Leatherworking also has something like that on bracers
@Artynos_YT
@Artynos_YT 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cryptexzz 2 extra sockets from BS is only 40 stam tho
@Cryptexzz
@Cryptexzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Artynos_YT Mining is initially good but is only good for tanking. First blue gems are 24 stamina each which is 48 stamina. Later epic gems are 30 each but BS gives you flexibility for other specs while with mining you're kind off locked in just tanking
@thomasskrydstrup
@thomasskrydstrup 2 жыл бұрын
btw the improved unbreakable armor states it increases the armor to 30% not by 30% so it's actually only a 5% increase in armor if it does what it says it should do. Is the tooltip wrong?
@ambiwar7915
@ambiwar7915 2 жыл бұрын
"The Glyph [Unbreakable armor] is increasing it by an extra 30%, so it's actually 55%" The glyph increases it TO 30%, not BY 30%. It's 5% more armor, which is respectable considering the uptime, but there are better options.
@mikek3638
@mikek3638 Жыл бұрын
What are some better options?
@crumornus1
@crumornus1 2 жыл бұрын
It almost seems like frost tank would be best really early on as it loses so much as gear gets better. But when tanks don't have a ton of armor yet the 55% could be pretty crazy in %physical damage reduction.
@vinniemannino6546
@vinniemannino6546 2 жыл бұрын
I killed LK 10n on my dw frost dk. Made me switch from my 25h shadow priest. Played dk (unfortunately blood when they made me :/) through tier 1 legion before quitting. On shade tbc for now. Can’t wait for wrath classic.
@Texinga
@Texinga 2 жыл бұрын
This is backwards. Armor doesn't diminish in this manner. Each additional point of armor is worth the same EHP as the last, which is based on your armor-less EHP. And, UA scales directly with armor. The more armor and HP (and Strength) you have, the better UA becomes.
@Slade1135
@Slade1135 2 жыл бұрын
@@Texinga While the statements you make are accurate, they're not relevant to the problem. The issue became that as gear levels rose and more pieces had bonus armor with less avoidance, you were starting to push too close to the armor cap (75% reduction in physical damage) without cooldowns. Early on when your armor levels are lower, Unbreakable Armor will provide a lot of armor without going over. Late in gearing, much of its effect was just tossing unhelpful armor on that didn't do much unless you were relying on it interacting with Bladed Armor talent for more offense on top of the 20% strength.
@ihavenoidea4727
@ihavenoidea4727 2 жыл бұрын
frost prolly ok for the start of the expansion? get def cap easily etc w dual wield.
@diaboliklord
@diaboliklord 2 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, - would you do a full in depth blood dk tank for main tank in dungeons - raids and buld for those !!
@Mayan2
@Mayan2 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if I missed it but I’m guessing stat wise they’re all the same? Defense, expertise, etc?
@maroshrobak2972
@maroshrobak2972 2 жыл бұрын
Glyph of Unbreakable Armor increasing armor TO 30% not BY 30% so its 5% boost to armor not 30% at total (~15:05)
@dominikfiguli8763
@dominikfiguli8763 2 жыл бұрын
TRU
@Rugsz
@Rugsz 2 жыл бұрын
TRUUUUUUE
@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 2 жыл бұрын
DK single target tanking is god-tier in Wrath. I remember early on being able to solo tank the VoA25 frost boss with good dps. Fortunately your early 200-264 trinkets will take you all the way through ICC too. Just stack armor and stamina (I think)
@WizeguyGaming
@WizeguyGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Frost tanking is not a meme. It is legit. Until such time as they do the talent shift where blood really does become premier tank spec, frost is solid. 1 other point of contention...you talk in last build about 1 purple gem and over exaggerate the benefit of that nano sized benefit but then you tell people that dual wield vs 2H doesn't matter. It is the exact opposite. Choosing agility over dodge, parry or strength on 1 purple gem is of no importance while choosing dual wield is a much more important mistake. The misses on dual wield are far more significant if you are min/maxing. Why throw away hits like that? A tad more dps = a tad more threat and a tad faster that the boss dies.
@ghostyjames3201
@ghostyjames3201 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, why haven't you considered acclimation talent in the frost dk tanking build
@Jvstm
@Jvstm 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think Frost and Unholy are both better than Blood until ICC content. I'd also argue that Frost is better for LK because the amount of damage reduction is way better than the healing from Blood because either you or your healers are waaaaay overheating if you're main tanking as Blood. I like Blood for some content, but I feel like the other two specs are just better. At least for my style of tanking, which favours mitigation.
@Tutel0093
@Tutel0093 2 жыл бұрын
Im having some troubles tanking heroics even with 4k GS First 5 seconds are hard against 3-5 mobs pulls, DnD and It spam makes me unable to make it easy for the healer. I don't have defense capped with such low gear so sometimes I die in 3 seconds
@GirishMiGa
@GirishMiGa 2 жыл бұрын
You're doing something very wrong i had def cap on less than 3.5k gs lmao
@Tutel0093
@Tutel0093 2 жыл бұрын
@@GirishMiGa Yeah, one friend told me about this DkSigil about 50p defense everytime I spam IcyTouch. Also got some truly tank gear and I have defense cap already. However many people told me that is normal for dks to suffer some seconds until agro is under control
@warcraftgoose7920
@warcraftgoose7920 2 жыл бұрын
In regards to your first build: I think your use of Icy Talons is misguided, that only really increases your physical damage throughput and isn't worth taking if you're not going all the way and getting Improved. Instead of taking that, put those points into Black Ice (Increasing your IT threat by 10%). From there 3/5 in killing machine is good enough and we'll have to wait and see if the dodge given from anticipation forces your dodge rating into higher DR and depending on the answer to that, it may make sense in later tiers to put 2 points in Anticipation and the other 3 into Glacier Rot for another 20% threat (Although this may be a waste depending on how threat looks in the beta). Good video.
@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, as a tank, you only take Icy Talons if you’re going all in for the improved buff. Otherwise, I only take the first Icy Talons talent alone for Unholy DPS.
@kimberlyblakley2120
@kimberlyblakley2120 2 жыл бұрын
A while back I PMed you on your server prior to wrath pre-patch. I am fixing to be an off tank and going unholy since I need to only provide aboms might but not icy talons. You mention bone shield struggles early on by itself. What should I target as stat priorities? In addition for the unholy build, would it be better than the blood build if I plan on off tanking the whole expansion?
@Texinga
@Texinga 2 жыл бұрын
That's not the 25-man Frost spec. That's more of a 5-man spec. The 25-man spec is 23/36/(+12). At a minimum it picks up Veteran and UA. Last points can be spent on a combination of UH (Virulence/Dodge), Blood (triple buff), and BotN/Frost Strike (self-healing and dps). You don't take Howling Blast into 25-man unless you are only there to snap aggro trash.
@ihavenoidea4727
@ihavenoidea4727 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could link your frost spec?
@vinniemannino6546
@vinniemannino6546 2 жыл бұрын
Can. Not. Wait. To dw frost tank. It’s so much fun.
@22mpb
@22mpb 2 жыл бұрын
I was unholy tank for t7, frost for t8, blood tank for t9 and 10. Also blood dps in ICC
@elrickweterings
@elrickweterings 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, would you recommand going engineering for a tank dk? or doesnt it really matter for tanking?
@Rugsz
@Rugsz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would! The movement speed is sooooooooo nice. You’ll love it
@imus68
@imus68 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rugsz Oo a video on class's bis professions would be interesting! or maybe you have done it already I need to go check.
@Rugsz
@Rugsz 2 жыл бұрын
@@imus68 yeah that’s a good idea! I could try to do that
@Artynos_YT
@Artynos_YT 2 жыл бұрын
Mining gives +60 stam so is BIS for tanks with Engineering for movement, haste cds are nice for dps OS
@MitchellNabkey
@MitchellNabkey 2 жыл бұрын
@rugs can you do a spec and professions comparison video for prot pally? Including the engineering value of armour gloves enchsnt vs threat, and nitro boots vs stam, amd comparing the gain of both of those if at all in comparison to extra stam from LW or Ench (assuming JC is second profession)
@samphtos
@samphtos 2 жыл бұрын
Heya! Like your videos. I would like to request a video elaborating on the fastest class to tank 5 man dungeons in low and high gear level scenarios. As I remember it from retail (have not played much private servers), death knight is by far the slowest tank for 5-man content while bear druid is the fastest, especially in high gear levels where the healing from improved leader of the pack is so high that a ret pala with a mouseover macro for an occasional FoL is all healing that is required and therefore you can 4 dps dungeons. What are your thoughts on this? Maybe take it to the next step by discussing speedrunning comps for 5 man dungeons. As someone who really enjoys the wotlk dungeons and plans to do daily hc often, this is an important aspect when choosing class for classic wotlk.
@aliskills12
@aliskills12 2 жыл бұрын
At 13:00, damage mitigation by armor isnt something thats independant. EHP is calculated through damage mitigation aka armor into its calculations.
@Artynos_YT
@Artynos_YT 2 жыл бұрын
Im a pally on private servers. Will you be doing PvP vida?
@GANTZGAME
@GANTZGAME Жыл бұрын
i think unbreakable armor glyph cannot stack with your talent & it just change your armor from 25% become 30%/ same as glyph of goul it cannot increase your goul pet stat when you have increase stat goul from talent, i try it before & after use glyph of goul it don't increase your goul stat when you have your goul talent
@FallOut3Guru123
@FallOut3Guru123 Жыл бұрын
why u hate bloodworms?
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