the thumbs up counter is how many times he hit his rim in this vid
@famuse2573 жыл бұрын
How can you tell?
@micarbine77223 жыл бұрын
Could be pedal dead zone & his rear hub Usually rear hubs with less engagement you will get that clacking noise, even when you go to engage pedaling. I’m guessing over the bumps and jumps, he lessened the downward force on pedals when jumping/popping up, then the “rim” noise happens when he is landing or again putting force down on the pedal and once his back wheel touches dirt again, the pedals hit that engagement point and that is the noise we hear?
@topspot48343 жыл бұрын
@@famuse257 the sound
@TheJofrica3 жыл бұрын
Possibly they might have used the same audio for some of the clips. Or actually just the same clips repeated
@johncoons1666 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like wheel to me. I’ve had the worst hubs ever and my shits never sounded like that! I know I’m late to the party.
@Tannervmtb4 жыл бұрын
Someone get this man some cushcore or just a few extra psi
@cartermacrenaris7054 жыл бұрын
Lmao ikr
@colebrimhall56124 жыл бұрын
lol I was thinking the same thing
@JoJoLaPompa4 жыл бұрын
that sound in the first video sequence.... poor rim !
@topspot48343 жыл бұрын
LOL thought the same thing!
@noeserd4 жыл бұрын
He is the guy that destroys alloy rims every 3 months on pinkbike
@vitalmtb4 жыл бұрын
You're on Vital here, in case you hadn't noticed... ;-)
@meesterbingbong56414 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that this video isn’t 28 minutes long. I see a lot of other comparison videos out there and I’m curious about some this stuff but when it comes to watching a video that’s over 25 minutes I could’ve just done basic research online and come a similar conclusion. Thanks for the great vid
@KurtisPape4 жыл бұрын
So true. It felt like a long video but it wasn't! I don't like watching 20 minute videos time is limited hahaha
@mlee605011 ай бұрын
@@KurtisPapemore so, here is 19 minutes of filler and last minute we will give you info you wanted
@brianwood96104 жыл бұрын
Your really putting that rear wheel though the wars. Maby need a few more psi or tyre inserts
@hpkiunzy4 жыл бұрын
@Marko Borovyk well carbon wheel warranty is generally amazing.
@ousqa4 жыл бұрын
@@hpkiunzy it really depends where you buy them from
@hpkiunzy4 жыл бұрын
@@ousqa most of them have at least 4 no fault warranty or lifetime.
@ousqa4 жыл бұрын
@@hpkiunzy idk how many would consider bashing it as no fault
@hpkiunzy4 жыл бұрын
Not sure, should check the reviews and the policies. I know that Santacruz, we are one, nobl, Enve , Ibis have great warranty. I Don't know much about other companies.
@evanblackwell39204 жыл бұрын
Amazing how you could visually see the added control of the Float X2 over the DPX2 just by watching the POV GoPro footage!
@topspot48343 жыл бұрын
How could you tell? Not being snarky, genuinely wondering.
@evanblackwell39203 жыл бұрын
@@topspot4834 With the lower volume air shock, you can see the bike ride a little more 'chattery' and less planted, whereas with the coil and larger volume air shock, there is less chatter visible in the footage and the bike deflects less. That doesn't necessarily mean the coil/high volume is faster or better, but its cool to be able to see the differences in the footage!
@adventuroustrio74584 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect time. I’m choosing between the three.
@fcbotieno4 жыл бұрын
What have you concluded?
@haydensupple72254 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@MrMarko3694 жыл бұрын
Dont write off the Ohlins TTX
@adventuroustrio74584 жыл бұрын
I’ll get the dpx2
@justinwbohner4 жыл бұрын
Look at the Cane Creek DBIL. It's the same weight as the DPX2 but works oh so nice. I have one. It replaced the DPX2 on my Intense Primer.
@BikingwithJP4 жыл бұрын
Watching even though I can’t afford these upgrades...
@thunderbot57082 жыл бұрын
It's cool seeing these shocks tested on my local trails
@lucacadianalbert4 жыл бұрын
Brandon went on quite a diet since the Pivot feature on Vital...170 to 153. Lean and MEAN!!! Oh and coil will always win for me.
@superawesomefuntimego4 жыл бұрын
I just recently swapped over to a DHX2 from a DPX2 on my 2020 RIP 9 RDO. So far I am impressed. I can feel the sensitivity difference over chatter and the traction climbing is great. I was sort of led to believe that coils do not pop as well on jumps, which may be true, but I just about launched myself off the trail, so the difference seems subtle.
@meteormedia70213 жыл бұрын
Watchers should keep in mind, that the feel of each of these shocks will also greatly vary depending on the leverage curve of different frames.
@LuLeBe4 жыл бұрын
I think the best one for me is the dpx2 since it's what came on my bike and I don't have $500+ for this xD
@j_a_k_o_b48614 жыл бұрын
poor rim
@alextokmakoff65214 жыл бұрын
Get this man an insert 🥴
@Nit23154 жыл бұрын
30% sag on the tyre :')
@h82fail4 жыл бұрын
7:45 Is that the sound of the rim or shock bottom out? My bike makes that sound sometimes in g-out ravine with rocks at the bottom or something and I think its my rim but I can never find any marks in the rim. Got some cush core coming because I want to try lower pressures (currently run 22/25psi). I keep wondering If that sound is my shock bottoming because I do use all its travel allot...
@Ethanator-fy3cm4 жыл бұрын
@@h82fail shocks don't make noise when bottoming out, its definitely the rim.
@sebastianlukevillaruz33973 жыл бұрын
@@Ethanator-fy3cm some shocks make a huge clunk when they bottom out.
@NickBosshard4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to compare them to the DHX2 wit a progressive spring aswell, feel like it would blend the characteristics of the Float X2 and DPX2 even more.
@gpearce114 жыл бұрын
DHX2 with SLS spring, and a Fox 36/38 is the sexiest suspension combination available, especially if you spring for the Factory forks (even more so if paired with a Transfer Factory dropper).
@BowzKnows3 жыл бұрын
Just went from X2 to DHX2... now if the snow would go away so I can test it out!
@raziasrazias77614 жыл бұрын
I like that blue paint. It remembers me of an YT with Blue Camouflage paint.
@petertyliszczak34114 жыл бұрын
That first line is sick
@gregcavanaugh62594 жыл бұрын
cool video comparison! Gotta say, I just cringe every time you ping that rear wheel. Killer riding though!
@lukesteele50134 жыл бұрын
I love the switchblade. Such a good looking bike
@nicom49964 жыл бұрын
just want to say that the bike feels so fast and the trail is amazing. so go on with the shock review
@colinwatt004 жыл бұрын
I wish Fox would add HSC/LSC and HSR/LSR to the DPX2 so you can get the small-volume benefits without sacrificing some of the more complex tuning adjustments. I think with these adjustments you could push the DPX2 closer to that middle-ground like the DHX2.
@justinwbohner4 жыл бұрын
I don't bother with Fox anymore for my trail bike shocks. Manitou Mara Pro, Mara IL, and CC DB IL coil are all better options in this class.
@johncoons16662 жыл бұрын
They do!
@eliasdanieli54614 жыл бұрын
Nice one Vital!
@theshortestcharles68864 жыл бұрын
Who else here is drooling over these shocks even though they own a hardtail?
@oscarjolt18804 жыл бұрын
Very nice manual at the end
@Antjan462 жыл бұрын
This is a great review. I’m looking at buying a frame that comes with the DHX2 coil so I think you told me what I wanted to hear 👊🏽😉
@The_GreenMachine4 жыл бұрын
just road that trail a few months back, so tough yet so fun!
@ucsbewildered4 жыл бұрын
Great video! The tune ID on your DPX2 shows it's a 2020 model. I think the 2021 DPX2 is tune ID D5D7
@spencerimre Жыл бұрын
Those trails look so sick!
@rimbonker4 жыл бұрын
It would be interresting if a 60 and 100+ kg rider did the same test, i think maybe the result would be different.
@topspot48343 жыл бұрын
I went X2 over coil for the adjustability since I go from bike parks to beginner trails riding with family/friends ... Since I got my FS though about 90% of my riding is DH, so might've opted for coil had I known I'd be riding so much park ... They close in October though and don't open again til late May, so I'll probably be happy I opted for air during the 6-7 months I'm riding local trails . Aesthetically the coil looks sick, especially on the stealth Mach 6 w orange fork.
@jonathanangieri1534 жыл бұрын
haha those rim dingers made me cringe... hahaha! Going to coil completely changed the way my YT handled my local terrain. Such a huge improvement over air. I don't think i could ever go back to air in the rear again.
@jirirada52762 жыл бұрын
I did the same on my Reign .. CC Helm coil fork and CC DB IL shock and i dont want air any more 😅
@afdv63934 жыл бұрын
0:03 2:33 5:22 5:48 6:53 6:58 7:00 7:45 oof
@GTurbski4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@noahmeinhold783 жыл бұрын
What’s that
@afdv63933 жыл бұрын
@@noahmeinhold78 the rear rim
@justinwbohner4 жыл бұрын
Coil is still best for progressive frames. Just needs a wireless lockout control.
@evo53494 жыл бұрын
The coil can have the harshness tuned out if not revalve. I hope the body failures I had last year will be improved.
@evo53493 жыл бұрын
No on my 4 body fail on my coil hope they have add more meat to the cast body on the new as the pre 2021 coil DH has spent more time off the bike. The latest is a pin hole next to the bleed port.
@KDoba3 ай бұрын
Which one for the rider over 100kg?
@johnbehneman154622 күн бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH. A TOTALLYA WSOME UPGRADE!!!!
@filmbynatelachmann85104 жыл бұрын
my mans be pinging his rim on each rock
@topspot48343 жыл бұрын
Somebody get this man some Cushcore and psi ... Great review!
@mau1324 жыл бұрын
Can you do this exact video comparison but with a fox 36 vs 38?
@alstar3002 жыл бұрын
I definitely would love some more plushness in the rear-end over the square edge chatter, but how much I want vs how much climbing efficiency I am willing to give up remains the question. I guess for the simple minded like myself, if the DPX2 were a 100 in climbing efficiency, what are the X2 and the DHX2. And for downhill plushness and control, if the DPX2 were 70, what about the other two? Of the X2 and DHX2, which one stays more poppy and playful?
@BlitzMekanika3 жыл бұрын
Mountain bike shocks with variable valve control😮. Vtec just kicked in yo.
@MikeLopez-v2q Жыл бұрын
The firm circuit not affecting the open-mode tune? Meaning if you forget to flip it DH, the shock still gets opened?
@heiheimtb4 жыл бұрын
he's running like 2 psi
@jamesmeezan12544 жыл бұрын
Lmao what up Hadrien, everyone wants ur sponsors. The aurum looks so sick
@Coerced3 жыл бұрын
those trails! Man, I'm so jealous
@Kev.in-Bike4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great vidéo
@edouardrenaud55174 жыл бұрын
this channel is so underrated
@miktub15554 жыл бұрын
So you're saying I need a new bike next year? Ok if you say so.
@mtbjump7142 жыл бұрын
very good comparison !!!
@vic80334 жыл бұрын
For the DHX settings you have OPEN in brackets beside the HSC. Does that mean you adjusted only that setting from the open position instead of closed? Thx
@OverTheHillMTB4 жыл бұрын
1) i thought he retired 2) i didnt realize Durango is a Moab/Sedona combo just brown 3) i think the DPX2 for all the reasons Pivot got the Switchblade right!
@vitalmtb4 жыл бұрын
he did retire. this was filmed before he decided to smash bikes and wheels for fun only : )
@marinberndt40494 жыл бұрын
Next video pls: rockshox vs rockshox va rockshox
@gpearce114 жыл бұрын
Would be a worthwhile video. SIDlux or Deluxe, Super Deluxe and Super Deluxe Coil (all Ultimate).
@rodrigopages10544 жыл бұрын
I mean it was obvious, at least to me, that the best all around shock would be the coil one! There’s a reason cars and motorbikes use them for the rear suspension specially... in my opinion, other than bikes with kinematics not suited for coils, there’s no real reason for a bike with more than 130mm of travel to use an air shock specially because this new coils have a lock out which for most riders won’t be a hassle to use for their climbs and then just switch back to open for the descents, if you don’t live on a place where long climbs are a thing then you’re probably not gonna need more than 130 mm of travel or you can just pedal your bike wide open no issues regardless of the rear travel so again running a coil shock will not be a hinderance for your rides! Yeah They might be a bit more expensive but they are worth every single penny ! Plus they give you the best thing, set and forget ! Once you’ve set your coil shock properly, unless you are progressing your riding level and skill, you will never have to touch your shock but just to take it of the Bike and send it for servicing !!! Whereas for air shocks you’ll all ways end up fiddling with their setup much more often due to temperature affecting them both from the environment or due to long rides heating up the shock changing the feel of them, plus there’s way more things to fail on an air shock because of how they are. Run a coil and be happy forever !!!
@nortondlcl4 жыл бұрын
Great review, Thanks
@L4J202 жыл бұрын
Does the coil shock make a "thunk, thunk, thunk" sound when returning to the top?
@alexfuckinsteadman4 жыл бұрын
Frick I just bought a DPX2 let’s see if I made the right choice
@stianjarnass3 жыл бұрын
Really great test and right to the point👏. Do you know if the Rochox super deluxe coil is a linear? I'm really a noob when it comes to suspension. But I'm basically really happy with it compared to air shock on my first bike. And my coil bike is even an ebike🤗
@hannes61142 жыл бұрын
All coil shocks are lineat. That's because of the coil constant.
@antrace924 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the dpx since It's the only one I can afford ahahaha. I bet it will do better than my rs monarch plus
@stoneenforcer4 жыл бұрын
Guess this review was” which shock handled rocky dh better” as for peddling the dpx2 would win
@caderidenour6423 жыл бұрын
He def ain't picking up the tab for these durst rims at the end of this test session
@hayabusa272 жыл бұрын
Holy cow crazy downhill is this guy still alive?
@meteormedia70214 жыл бұрын
DPX2 for me. The livelier, the better.
@kx7kx7824 жыл бұрын
Great! Thank you 🙏🏾
@brendanscott89894 жыл бұрын
these are all amazing shox
@cswann83 жыл бұрын
Question: I'm about to pick up a used Specialized Epic Comp with the Fox mini-brain shock that has some issue and needs to be rebuilt. I'm OK with that, but I'm wondering if I might not want to install a current model Fox shock (thinking the DPX2). Does the DPX2 have a similar anti-bob action as the Specialized brain shocks?
@MrChadLedford2 жыл бұрын
Def swap to dpx2 if it fits the bike
@stepheno.27303 жыл бұрын
Coil 100%, although the air shocks are getting good.
@freeridetony4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate :)
@antn83874 жыл бұрын
when one MTB shock costs more than a full set of racing coil-overs for a race car. LOL
@MrPeter9242 жыл бұрын
Great video great . Motor bike ride great show
@juki_sendet21923 жыл бұрын
Strong rims, strong tires
@jonathanguerdrum28633 жыл бұрын
Where are these trails?! they look super fun!
@vitalmtb3 жыл бұрын
durango colorado
@JasonDivock3 жыл бұрын
What trail in Durango was this? Rocky Road?
@tomrasmussen39902 жыл бұрын
which shock was the best for lockout on steep climbs ? thx
@ericmountainbiker3 жыл бұрын
Good video.
@night1ish4 жыл бұрын
Those pings caused me physical pain
@roderick90184 жыл бұрын
Assuming these results will translate to e bike world as in levo right 😬?
@supashaker13 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if you can change old du bushings to the newer low friction ones? I have the older ones on the fox dhx rc2 shock and wondering if you can and what difference it will make
@polishguywithhardtospellna82274 жыл бұрын
Mountain Rock Preservation Association already contacted VitalMTB with lawsuit for rock damages in this video :-P
@scotthastings88454 жыл бұрын
I shit you not I had NO idea my DPX2 had low speed compression adjustments (other than the open, mid, closed) learn something new everyday 😂
@ShredReadyFilms4 жыл бұрын
5:40 “I feel like it needs a climb switch” (shows shot of the new firmer climb switch)
@BrandonTurman4 жыл бұрын
Caught me mumbling! "I feel like it needs THE climb switch."
@ShredReadyFilms4 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonTurman oohhh ok
@paradox9634 жыл бұрын
Somebody get this guy some cushcore.
@Phen0mable5 ай бұрын
Whats the maximum weight of the rider for X2 ?
@seagulls4life124 жыл бұрын
coil shocks all day
@ethanrevitch Жыл бұрын
So much clanging off the rim in the into. You need inserts Brandon.
@TheGazavman4 жыл бұрын
depends of the trail
@biertastisch4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I would take the Fox
@atomics67793 жыл бұрын
The air shocks look better , the coils are more durable
@kennethcampingdiary19766 ай бұрын
I dont care about weight i dont do crazy stunt no jump no off road all i do is daily riding for deliveroo for 17 hours a day all i want is comfort like I'm sitting in benz S class when going over normal road bump or hole so really not sure to get for my ebike my bike and it can take 155mm rear air or coil
@RCKING14 жыл бұрын
Guessing you want a steeper seat angle on that bike
@vitalmtb4 жыл бұрын
why?
@justinwbohner4 жыл бұрын
No, you don't. Cocalis explains: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ2sm2WXhLCXpKc&feature=emb_logo
@nathantoney.15014 жыл бұрын
I thought Brandon isn’t with vital anymore
@vitalmtb4 жыл бұрын
he filmed this before making the move to ride and smash wheels for fun.
@pbls434 жыл бұрын
That bike needs an insert on the rear wheel :D
@itsquick8173 жыл бұрын
That por rim 😂
@colemitchmtb4 жыл бұрын
Is there any updates the the 34 or dps this year?
@Oh_Sully234 жыл бұрын
34 gets the GRIP2 damper as an option.
@colemitchmtb4 жыл бұрын
@@Oh_Sully23 I thought grip2 was already an option last year... maybe it was not an oem option? Anyway thanks for the info
@edouardrenaud55174 жыл бұрын
Coil shock forever
@pe31174 жыл бұрын
What’s the point of hitting that way the rear rim? 🤷♂️
@BowzKnows3 жыл бұрын
You running negative tire pressure?! haha
@arvinjohneoy56784 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos 😍 Can i have that one?🔥😱😇
@MT-js6ke4 жыл бұрын
Why is the coil not kashima? Fox missed a trick, that would look insaneee
@Nullking_4 жыл бұрын
Fox didn’t do that because there is no stanchions or external shaft on the DHX2, it just has the internal shaft that doesn’t require the Kashima coating. Even on the DPX2 and Float X2 internal shafts look the same as the shaft of the DHX2.
@MT-js6ke4 жыл бұрын
@@Nullking_ but when you’re paying £700 for a shock I don’t see any reason why putting a kashima coat on the internal shaft would be an issue
@patrikzuest4 жыл бұрын
The chrome shaft is actually supposed to be slicker than the kashima in that situation. so they did it to make the shock better, looks are secondary.
@MT-js6ke4 жыл бұрын
@@patrikzuest oh fair enough, that makes more sense. A little part of me still wishes it was kashima coated though
@Oh_Sully234 жыл бұрын
@@MT-js6ke the shaft on the previous generation DHX2 wasn't actually Kashima, it was a Ti-Nitride coating. As mentioned the hard chrome is more durable for this application.