3 Generations TESTED! - AMD 7900X vs 5900X vs 3900X

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Many thanks go out to #Georgios over at #quippr for getting a hold on these CPUs for my review. #NotSponsored 🤗🤩 Are you happy with where we're heading with these CPUs? 😅

[@TrevorSullivan]

I love my 3900X. It has served me extremely reliable for more than 3.5 years, when I first built the system. It's paired up with 64GB of RAM, and blazes through everything.

[@Stallzyx]

They only launched in November 2020 though so maybe your numbers are a little off or you mean the 3900x? I got a 3900x myself in July/August 2020 and can agree it's great with 64GB ram but I believe gaming performance could be a bit higher now I have a 3080 if I upgraded to a 5900x. no motherboard swap either is nice

[@TrevorSullivan]

@@Stallzyx sorry I was wrong. 3900X

[@JustAGuy85]

@@Stallzyx Yeah, you have some gains to be made with a CPU upgrade considering you have that 3080. HOWEVER, I'd recommend going with the 5800x3D. That'll put you up there competing with plain Zen 4 CPUs, even beating them out in some cases in gaming lol. This is coming from someone with a 5900x. It's "hard" to do, but I've been debating on selling my 5900x and replacing it with a 5800x3D. If only they'd have made 5900x3D's instead of those damned 5600x3D's. 6 cores/12 threads aren't really enough in my book. 12c/24t has been absolutely overkill. I think 8c/16t is the "sweet spot", meaning no game is gonna max it out for awhile... and the 5800x3D will really let that 3080 scream.

[@Stallzyx]

@@JustAGuy85 yeah 5800X3D seems very solid indeed! I am not someone who sells my old parts though so would probably want somewhere to put my 3900x or maybe I'll have to part with it :D

[@lilPOPjim]

​@JustAGuy85 that's what I'm thinking. Only thing is, I do use the 24 threads on my 3900x to great effect every so often. Will most likely get the 5900x as an intermediate upgrade tbh.

[@eshelmen]

I love my 5900X... I'll upgrade when it begs me to. For now, it smashes anything I throw at it.

[@sasuke20989]

60 fps gamer detected

[@eshelmen]

​@@sasuke20989If you even knew what you were talking about.... Either way, I got other shit in life to worry about than sitting around worrying about framerates. 4080, 5900x and 64 gigs of ram. I'm perfectly fine for whatever.

[@sategllib2191]

​@@sasuke20989 1080p gamer detected

[@sategllib2191]

​@@eshelmen Same for me but a 7900 xtx gpu, handles my 1440p ultrawide at 144hz just fine. Still limited by the gpu at times because I like to crank the graphics and still try to get a solid 144 fps

[@yodison666]

​@@sategllib2191weak

[@Xamiakass]

damn, a nicely done review! thanks buddy. first time seeing your vid, but defo subbing. keep it up! as for 3900x. got it on a day of release and was INLOVE (quite possibly, mostly because it replaced my heavy OC'd 3570k). but after almost 3 years of using it... i still love it. yes, it is a lot slower than next gen 900's but.. for my usage, this thing still performs beautifully! do not feel the need or even a simple wish to upgrade. at this rate, i feel like i can happily run this bugger for another 1-2 years without considering an upgrade.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you so much!

[@ObsidianB8]

same i bought mine with my covid check and ive never looked back, will happily run my 3900x and 3070ti well into the late 2020's! i use it for light work and creative on occasion so it has plentty of power for that, and the rest of the time its a full time family, media, gaming pc with incredible uptime. When can run multiple games at once, never close any tabs, have unlimited programs open, mine crytpo, basicly if you can think it it will run it, have been very impressed with my 3900x and i doubt amd can convince me to throw my x470 board away to get a new zen (number) anytime soon. they would have to pull out a 100% faster chip or something.

[@Stallzyx]

@@ObsidianB8 yeah I was someone who ran an i7 2700k (sandy bridge golden era) from 2011 to 2020, and then built from scratch with the 3900x in the summer of 2020 as it looked like the upgraded counterpart. the 7900x or what comes next on that platform is looking like an upgrade option for me though in the next few years if I want to get serious about gaming again. Currently 3900x + 3080 and 64gb ram is decent for casual play

[@ObsidianB8]

your still good for years to come lol, just keep what you have till it dont run no more@@Stallzyx

[@erixIsOffline]

​@@ObsidianB8hope your GPU will not Burn his chipset from mining. Otherwise happy that you happy with your build wish could have same 😅

[@DXcellence718Returns]

Looks like ill be holding my 5900x. Zen 4 doesnt seem worth with my current position. Probably better to see what zen 5 can offer. Hopefully am5 socket will start to mature.

[@Reflectivityy]

I have a 7600X with a 3080 and it runs everything at 1440p right around a 100 FPS or better. AM5 seems to be aging in my case like fine wine

[@lego_minifig]

Seeing as there is not much game performance boost for the 3900x when upgrading to the 5900x I am content with what I got till I am ready to switch platforms sometime after the next generation drops. The 3900x still shreds all productivity and multitasking tasks I have for it so I am happy. Once it is retired it will become a beast of a home server and VM machine.

[@michaelmctigue2982]

Great video!!! Were do you get your background music from?

[@kevinlynch8614]

My current system is based around a Ryzen 5 2600x and it's served me very well. The 5900x is looking especially attractive to me now, they can be bought used for around the £220 mark, and would drop straight into my existing motherboard with only a BIOS update and a switch over to an AIO cooler required. For that I get a two generational jump and a doubling of my core count. This is why AMD has always been such an attractive option for me... 🙌🏾

[@JustAGuy85]

Be careful. What's your board? The 5900x fried a mosfet on my B450-F Gamin II (Asus STRIX) with the stock 142 watt PPT. Took about 3 months. I had a 3600 in it for one year before the upgrade and had zero issues. But 3 months of 5900x life... popped something under the VRM heatsink. You may want to consider a 5800x3D, instead. You really need a B550 board so that you have the VRM capacity to actually handle a 12 core CPU.

[@anuradhamahajan1229]

This is the best video I have seen so far, motivated to do with your script in my language for people in my state. ❤ Just confidence is not enough 😢

[@Andrew_M_Ward]

5900X all the way... Very lower power consumption 20+% improvement in gaming inexpensive motherboard and RAM compatibility The 7900X is a full platform overhaul with an expensive price tag and expensive to operate with insane wattage draw all for 15% gaming improvements

[@Diac13]

You only say that if you can't afford it. If you got the money, you always go for the best.

[@Vialli100.]

I agree with you, My 5900x is an amazing CPU and won't be upgraded for another 2-3 years..

[@xkais487]

@@Vialli100. Is a 5900x for 300 euros / dollars good right now?

[@Shishio]

@@xkais487 hell naw, rn they cost like 200€ in germany used and for 400€ u get the 7900X

[@gamingadvisor002-1]

​@@Shishio you also have to add motherboard and ram upgrade to that for 7900x

[@CMDR_MAJIC]

How could you have "made sure the RAM capacity didn't affect the test results"? It's already been shown that 32GB RAM in quad rank has a massive impact on 1% lows for Ryzen 5000.

[@TheFruitingChamber]

Fr bad test

[@phoenixvette]

Well that answers my question. Keep my 3900x, get the 7900 XTX, then when Windows 10 dies in 2025, get the best AMD Processor at the time and move to AM5. Bye 5700XT, it's been great!

[@rattlehead999]

I'm curious how well the 7900X performs at the same power draw as the 3900X and 5900X

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Hmm... that's an interesting thought. I might do a video on this topic sometime in the next few months. Thank you! :)

[@Metical1312]

Yeah would be interesting to see how efficient the new gen stuff is and also a good look at IPC. How would u do such a test ? Down clock the 7900x and lock it at 105 watts?

[@AlmightyGTR]

This is exactly what I was concerned about, so I ran these tests with 5900X at 200Watts on D15S Aircooling, and posted the results above. 5900x, comes at the same, or in some cases better than 7900x. Not sure how, but it does.

[@JustAGuy85]

@@AlmightyGTR Interesting. And then we can't forget about the 5800x3D. I have a 5900x right now, and at the time, I don't think there was a 5800x3D. That or it costed way too much, I honestly can't remember. So, I always figured that this 5900x would be the final CPU for this rig and I'd upgrade the GPU along the way until the CPU was just too slow IPC wise. But now? I'm gonna slap a 5800x3D in here and sell this 5900x. Thread-wise, it's been overkill. And, listen, I KNEW it would be overkill, I just underestimated exactly how much overkill it really is for gaming. I mean, I expected massive overkill... but it's even more than massive. It's gargantuan overkill for gaming lmao. Most games? 8-12% average CPU usage. The highest CPU usage game I have is BF2042 in a 128 player server and even then... 40-42% average CPU usage. So, while I do compress files now and then and encode a few vids here and there to save space, and it is nice to have those extra threads, I spend far more time just gaming. So the 5800x3D is what I need. I think the only thing (besides compression/encoding/tasks that can utilize ALL threads) that the 5900x can beat a 5800x3D at is using the CPU to record and stream gameplay. And even then, it'd have to be high CPU usage games like MW2/Warzone/BF5/BF2042. And still... I'm not even sure those games + recording + streaming would push a 5800x to 100%. I do know a 3600 cannot record using the CPU while playing Warzone. That pushes the 3600 to 100% and the game stutters and the recording is jittery as all get out. So that's why I'm not sure if 8c/16t is really enough, either. BUT... I don't do that anymore, I just game. And for pure gaming, the 5800x3D smokes all these CPU's in this benchmark. EDIT: My rig is - Asus STRIX B550-F Gaming WiFi II R9 5900x with CO per core peaking at 5.05ghz on the first 6x cores. No PBO, I get worse clocks in gaming with PBO. 2x16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3600 C16 in the only dual rank kit of the bunch with finely tuned sub timings. XFX Qick 319 6700XT 12GB Got a lot of HDD's/SSD's, but I'll list em: 2TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVME M.2, a 120GB SSD, a 250GB SSD, a 500GB SSD (they all do 550MB/s read and 500MB/s write), then I have 2x Seagate 7200.14 (I think .14) in RAID 0 that does 380 MB/s read speeds. And lastly a 3TB WD Blue 5400-5700RPM drive for games I don't care about and back up files plus I record my home security cameras to it. It's slow... like 90MB/s read speeds slow. Oh, I also have a 64GB SanDisk USB UltraSlim USB 3 flash drive I throw games on now and then. It acts like an SSD at loading games. Something like 120-130MB/s read speeds and 30ish MB/s write speeds. But as we all know, seek times are MOSTLY what load times are about. Or have been about. Now with DirectStorage moving over to PC (like Forspoken uses), NVME M.2 drives will finally get some use in load times. That game loads from one spot to ANY place in the map in less than 1.5 seconds. Practically no load time involved. DirectStorage is AMAZING. I can't wait until more and more games begin to implement this. Not sure why they haven't, yet, as Xbox Series X|S have been using it forever. All we have is Forspoken using it. And, yes, I enjoyed Forspoken. Then, again, it came free with my GPU, along with Sniper Elite 5 and Saints Row, two games that I find boring as crap.

[@kelvinsakala]

In 2023 about to build 3900x a 4k editing pc using premiere pro

[@erixIsOffline]

How is this build workin, im kinda curiouse

[@kelvinsakala]

It works perfect no regrets but I would recommend 5900x

[@randolphblack2554]

I ran my 3900X for 5 years of transcoding before I noticed a slowdown. That led to receiving a 5900X for Father's Day. I now enjoy greater speed and over 15 degrees lower operating temps with an Artic 34 Duo Sport air cooler with a Silverstone 120mm Sharkas the front fan.

[@AlmightyGTR]

Sorry bud, but your numbers seem to be way off what 5900x can do without too much work. To compare apples to apples, first thing we need to do is feed both of them the same power. My 5900x at 200watts (to normalize the power consumption with 7900x), with decent C16 ram at 3800MHz is hitting over: -154FPS vs 93FPS (shown by you) average AC:Valhalla with 1080p Ultra high -155FPS vs 143FPS (shown by you) average BL3 1080p Ultra DX11 -176FPS vs 99FPS (shown by you) average CP2077 1080p Ultra -226FPS vs 195FPS (shown by you) average SOTR 1080p Highest -200FPS vs 165FPS (shown by you) average HZD 1080p Ultimate Quality All of this was with built-in benchmarks, 100% resolution scaling, no adaptive fps, no fps locks, no DLSS, no FSR, no nothing... And on Aircooling with D15S!!! I think we need to get better at power normalized testing before we tell everyone to throw 5900X chips into the bin. All my results are either in spitting distance of 7900x, or better than it. EDIT: Added HZD result.

[@saricubra2867]

Zen 3 is AMD's Sandy Bridge moment. Before Alder Lake, it was the biggest IPC i ever watched in 5/6 years, that's why the perfomance per watt of the 5900X is better than Zen 4.

[@NedjoKovacevic]

Awesome comparison, that would be perfect with the inclusion of the new Ryzen 9 7900 X-less model at 65W. Minimal performance difference with immense power savings.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you very much! :)

[@Metical1312]

That would be a good comparison !!

[@aihamalrish716]

Ryzen 9 7900x 170w

[@WinterMute99]

Hey, might be a silly question, but can you do a comparison for all am4 generations, 1800x 2700x, 3800x, 5800x?

[@O.Shawabkeh]

Exceptional work and review

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you so much!

[@zacharymorrison4298]

I am debating on buying a 7900xtx for my 3900xt system I think it’ll be great for 4K

[@misterpinkandyellow74]

You will have a CPU bottleneck

[@garyc7569]

great video. I wouldn't be too disappointed with the power draw on the 7900x, its boosting higher and therefore needs more voltage to achieve this. It uses way less than most i7 and i9 chips

[@raevod6361]

I'm upgrading from Ryzen 5 3600x to Ryzen 9 5900x What performance increase should I expect with an RTX 2080ti?

[@JJFX-]

Depends on the resolution. You'll see similar gains to what's shown above unless you're GPU is holding it back. Count count helps some games more than others but it shouldn't be that significant unless you have a lot of things running. Just keep in mind you want to push the RAM as much as you reasonably can on Ryzen.

[@raevod6361]

@@JJFX- the performance boost was insane the frame rate got a noticeable boost I'd say about 10-20% and the frame times got exceptionally better, I never get microstutters, lag anything like that, just smooth as butter. Btw I play at 1440p.

[@JJFX-]

@@raevod6361 Nice, that sounds about right. Can I ask what memory speed/timings you're running and if you've done anything else (PBO, FCLK...)?

[@sinakianfar]

If i want to play on 3k cap at60 fps cpu matters?

[@AndmacInfo]

Great vídeo. 3900X owner, seeking for 5900X cpu upgrade for gaming.

[@HuntaKiller91]

I just saw both ur and hwu review on ryzen5000 vs 13400f I can conclude that Valve can use zen3/3+ cores in 6nm for next Steamdeck2 since most game engine like gta V will do well Cheaper to produce as well They can ditch that zen2 ryzen 3100 like cpu for their nxt custom APU

[@zherox1523]

Y la grafica usada? No veo que lo ponga en ningun sitio.

[@Asstronauts93]

My shit is old again lmfao. Oh well. I guess I'll get the next cpu gen in 2025

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Same goes for my personal rig(s).... :D

[@plamenpurvanov5451]

You spent a lot of time doing those tests , but why the hell on earth you are testing CPU’s at highest GRAPHICS settings? That way the limiting factor is the GPU not the CPU.

[@SlightlySaltyBrick]

Strange. Another review said the 5900X was getting an extra 20 to 80fps in most games comparing to the 3900x....

[@naclait5331]

hello, please, will AMD Ryzen 9 5900X be enough for rtx 4070 ti graphics?

[@maximiliankinzett2636]

I have a 5900x and a 6800xt with a 4k 144hz monitor, I play in 4k and get over 60fps in every game I play. In Cyberpunk I get 80 fps in 4k ultra settings without Frame Gen or upscaling, just turn down clouds and fog to lowest settings and hey presto another 40fps! :)

[@cap2574]

The question everyone should be asking is need vs want. To be totally and completely honest you should buy what you can afford that accomplishes what you need to do. The CPU has little to do with FPS so for gamming you should put your money into the GPU that gives you the FPS your monitor can handle. Almost none of these influencers tell you that, because they are influencers! For productivity you want a 5900x. It runs all the software, Adobe and DaVinci well and performance gains of 1 minute mean absolutely nothing... Don't spend thousands of additional dollars for current gen machines, always buy the deals for last gen.

[@NoLuv4Hoz]

Nice job here, as always! I am a little concerned, however, that the 3090 is not enough gpu to show the full fps gains of the 7900X over the other two cpu's at 1440p. Still, this is very useful information as not everyone has a 4080 or 4090.

[@sakura33777]

ryzen 9 3900 in my country only cost around 150-200$.

[@kdzvocalcovers3516]

..new mobo..new ram...great!..not worth the upgrade from a 5900x unless money is not a concern...worst thing is it will be older generation in no time...this upgrade game is a cash grab just like the new gpu's

[@RobloxianX]

Huge thanks for testing actual normal Ryzens, no extra 50 on the end, no 3D, and no non X chips, just the normal Ryzens that everybody actually uses.

[@MAR-jq7co]

Overclocked 5900x is a beast. Worst cpu I bought was a 3700x.

[@merkedgg6322]

What do your 5900x have you overclocked to ?

[@petmey5281]

Wait for Zen 5

[@vlad7269]

gpu?

[@poseidon5003]

170Watt TDP! No thanks. I'll stick with my 5900x.

[@vlad7269]

@RAM_845 what gpu you have? I want to update later gpu and psu as I have made wrong choice

[@vlad7269]

@RAM_845 do you think 3900x have enough power to handle new gpus? will be nice if you can later do video

[@vlad7269]

@RAM_845 okay will be glad if you can give update later when you buy if I don't forget to mention you

[@АлександрХорев-с8л]

WDF 4k???????????????????

[@mrbrittas3254]

you neded a 4090 for this max out everything

[@randallbro6749]

Not worth it.

[@sebastien7755]

thx

[@lordnekronow19]

Nice :)

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you. :)

[@michaelthompson9798]

Just the video I was looking for 🥰😇👍. As I’ve upgrade from a 3900x to 5900x rig …. as mainly gaming, but also looking a little into DaVinci etc for editing home movies etc at first …. Then maybe prosumer production ….. I’m looking at maybe either getting a 7900 or 7900x and the 7900 appears to have ~97%+ in all scenarios … with less heat and power draw I feel it’s the way to go for me 🥰😇🫠

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Since you're getting into video editing, etc. you might, indeed, benefit from a 7900(X). The gain in raw performance is pretty noticeable, something I, as a content creator, really appreciate. ;) Thank you, Michael! :)

[@danielvipin7163]

7900 can be oced to 7900x performance

[@merkedgg6322]

@@danielvipin71637900 is non x so no overclocking

[@zacharymorrison4298]

I am debating on buying a 7900xtx for my 3900xt system I think it’ll be great for 4K

[@Diac13]

That's way overkill for the 3900x. you will be CPU bottlenecked.

[@Qwertyfabian]

@@Diac13 that's a myth