3 Months with the Marin Rift Zone 2

I’ve had my 2020 Marin Rift Zone 2 for about 3 months now. There’s a lot of thing I like about it. There are also some things I don’t like. There are some things, like the SRAM SX Eagle drivetrain and the Vee Tire Flow Snap tires, that I thought would make it better than the Rift Zone 1. Now I’m thinking maybe that’s not the case. Watch me battle the gnats as I go over all of it.
UPDATE: The Vee Tire Flow Snaps are actually only 1043.5g each. Still slow rolling though due to the tread pattern and lack of a center row of knobs.
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[@shaquilleoatmeal2654]

can't go wrong with marin, they straight up make great affordable high spec bikes with bulletproof frames

[@TProStudioCreate]

Looks like a great bike for handling anything the trails might throw at you! Awesome work on the review man. It turned out great

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks! Yes it is a very versatile bike and a solid platform for upgrades too.

[@stevemuzak8526]

This is how you do a proper review. Awesome!

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks Steve!

[@SuperSnipehunter]

I just ordered a 2022 rift zone 1 and I will get it by the 12th. Looking forward to it, as I have been a cross country racer for years, but have only ridden hardtails. I got the 2022 at a substantial discount. I can't wait to try it out. I ordered a dropper post, new saddle, and clipless pedals. BTW, your backyard looks like an urban bow hunters paradise.

[@downtoridemtb]

Cool, I think you’ll like it. Especially once you install the dropper. Regarding the yard, we have had plenty of deer over the years. One year a pack of 8 of them came through very regularly. I prefer to just observe though. Anyway enjoy the new bike!

[@Albertow7]

Good review, I´ll change inmediately the tires, i had the same feeling.... The weigth of the components you showed was perfect now i now what i should change with time

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks. Yeah it’s kind of a checklist for me too as things wear out or I just feel like upgrading. Lose those tires and enjoy the ride regardless of weight!

[@Phlizz]

I agree. The Riffy really is a bike you would buy because of it’s geo numbers. For less than the price of the frame of like a SC Tallboy or Norco Optic you get a complete bike you could just ride from the start with even more upfront geometry. But really the speced parts, even on the highest level Rift Zone 3, don’t do the bikes intended use justice. Especially the wheel set and front forks. For anyone who has the basic skills to install and adjust parts, ideally bought on discount or used, the Riffy 1 is the best deal. We have two in our shop and I’m really tempted to order one for myself. Get any working dropper (brand x like you mentioned) and then really spend some money for high quality wheel set, Stans Arch or Flow or build one yourself with I9 or Hope Hubs, and it’s really crying for something like a RS Pike or Cane Creek Helm Air in the front. You’ll end up spending more than for the RZ2 but still less than the RZ3 and it should be a blast!

[@Sk8SaM47]

I'm planning to get the 2022 Rift Zone 2, thanks for the review!

[@downtoridemtb]

Nice, hope you enjoy it!

[@guol1806]

Thanks for the thorough review. I ended up with the RZ1 and ordering a dropper and better rear shock. I’m using other extra parts I have to improve the wheels and drivetrain. The price worked out better that way.

[@downtoridemtb]

Nice! Hope you’re enjoying it. I saw some killer deals on them lately since they came out with a new version. I still think this version is really good though.

[@guol1806]

@@downtoridemtb I’m still waiting for it to show up. But the price couldn’t be beat.

[@iffy_too6465]

First vid of yours I have watched and you got a sub. Great presenting to camera and so simple. People buying these priced bikes just want real world opinions, thanks for the content. Personally, I just pre-ordered a Merida 140-600 online for roughly same money, bike for bike, here in Australia. It got a bit older geometry but components are better and i wanted more travel. Anyway, i cant wait for it to arrive as its gonna be my first dual sus

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks for subscribing! Enjoy the full suspension. Definitely less punishing on your body and encourages you to do more crazy things!

[@mtb_noobie1230]

No matter what bike or price range there will always be something you will not like is what I have found. I have the rift Zone 1 and a ripmo AF. I had negative feelings about both bikes. Great video

[@NickMacDonald]

Interesting hearing your thoughts on the rift zone2 . I just bought a rift zone 1 and i hear you on the recon fork, very stinky and i also run lower pressure then i normally would. The Vee Tee Crown Gems are fast rolling but traction in wet conditions is limited. The Deore drivetrain is alittle glitchy aswell id say from my experience. Have since put a dropper on riftzone1 and overall pretty impressed with the bike as a whole for the price. This riftzone is my short travel bike for smaller trail systems, as i also have a GT Force Enduro bike that i used at mtb parks in my area. Anyways enjoyed watching the video and just thought i comment my experience with the riftzone1 as you were comparing in the video

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks for your comments. Basically exactly what I was getting at. You have a solid bike for a little less money. That’s strange about the tires though, Marins site says wire bead on the crown gems. Maybe they have changed something or had to substitute better ones at some point. Rims are tubeless ready though for sure. And I’m sure it’s a bit annoying for you, but it kind of makes me feel better to know that the Deore drivetrain isn’t perfect either.

[@mdbrewer]

They are good bikes. That being said, my friend has replaced the wheels/hubs due to failure and has had two frames break completely. Marin and the local bike shop have been great with helping him so far.

[@downtoridemtb]

Man that doesn’t give me a little confidence. Hopefully the frame issues weren’t catastrophic. What part broke?

[@23vicjoe]

@@downtoridemtb I'm curious to know which part broke too. I have the RZ3 in size L and ride at about 230 lbs and have been hammering enduro grade trails with lighter rubber and the bike has been a tank. No lack of confidence in the sturdiness of this rig. My bike was making similar sounds and I was going to have shop diagnose it. But now I'll see if just was bar/stem grit as it definitely was coming from that area. Curious if you ever considered the RZ3? I got my dealer down to 2200. The fork has been great (Bomber Z2) as has the Fox DPS shock. Bigger front rotor (203) and better brake. SLX drivetrain has been awesome. Used to riding GX Eagle and it's right there. Swapped tires for Bontrager XR3/SE4 and bike weighs in at 32 pounds. The tires are actually holding up suprisingly well out here in SoCal. But we've had some good dirt. Now comes the dry and loos condition. Bontragers definitely hold their own in toughness and lightness combo. Roll a bit differently but very predictable

[@downtoridemtb]

I never really considered the RZ3 because my budget was $2k. Actually I initially only wanted to get the RZ1 so even the RZ2 was kind of splurging for me. Thanks for the tip on the Bontrager tires. I haven’t ever looked at them but I am thinking about replacing that WTB Vigilante to shed a little more weight. Good luck on that noise, hopefully it is a simple fix like mine was!

[@mdbrewer]

The welded support toward the rear of the top tube. Both frames broke in the same spot.

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks!

[@arilandedflat]

Thinking on buying one, thanks for the advice!

[@downtoridemtb]

Glad to do it, thanks for watching!

[@jamestaylor6491]

thinking on buying the rift zone 1 and u helped me decide thanks you make great vids

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks. I’m sure you’ll love it!

[@svnbit8408]

@@downtoridemtb where you located? What would you expect to pay for last year's model? (This could be it, just began researching, trying to get a used fs mtb for around 1k. Thanks

[@downtoridemtb]

That’s a tough one. I actually began my search with used ones thinking about the same as you, maybe 1k. But they were so close to retail that I decided to just go new. Plus there were very few available. Check out Pinkbike for used stuff. Or if you’re government/first responder/military then check out GovVelo.com for a pretty significant discount on a new one. I get nothing for referring but tell them I sent you anyway!

[@orangejuicepony6881]

I have Shimano MT-500 twin pistons 180mm front and rear on my trail bike and they are perfect, no issues, great feed and no change to feel in over 700km. I am riding a Merdia 120 which is VERY similar to this bike, similar rear shock (select+), but Sektor RL front debonair and your description is the same.

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks. If I ever do upgrade the brakes I will definitely go for twin piston. But I’m happy with them for now. I’ve never seen a Merida around here but that does look pretty similar on paper. Are you saying that you don’t really like your fork either?

[@NateFastBikes]

1k Subs!! heck yeah man, congrats!

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks Nate!

[@eriksdodges853]

That's why I now buy frames only and build what I want. Just finished my san quentin 3 build, it rocks !

[@downtoridemtb]

Yeah if you’re specific what you want, that’s the way to do it. Cost is usually more upfront but worth it if you got it!

[@eriksdodges853]

@@downtoridemtb it is but honestly not buy much, especially if you do your shopping around. Plus you'll end up with a killer bike that's already "upgraded" and new at the same time !

[@stuartarmstrong4650]

thanks for the upload, i was considering the rift zone 2 but i am a person who likes to tinker with my bikes so would be swapping out the drive train for shimano 11 speed and replacing the fork to a rockshox pike and defo change the tyres for a high roller 2 and a rekon on the rear. i have to say the color of your bike is awesome, Marin have always done fantastic paint jobs. Congrats on the 1k subs keep up the uploads im interested in what upgrades you do to your bike

[@downtoridemtb]

Yeah the paint job has grown on me. Usually I’m not a fan of the red, black, gray color scheme. But I do like how they have done it. Anyway good luck with whichever one you get!

[@johnbiondolillo5188]

I have a 2019 Rift Zone 3 and I love it. I agree the stock tires, while very fast rolling, aren't really great for the trails here in CO. So, my first upgrade was some Maxxis rubber and tubeless conversion. I think I might be riding Marin for a long time and have an eye on the new Hawk Hill since I have progressed enough to the point that a little more than 120mm of travel is desired. It says right on the bike that these are "Made for Fun" and I think they nailed it at a great price point. I've followed people on their $7K Santa Cruz's and many times have beaten them up and down the trails. I am a pretty aggressive rider and even with the shorter travel, I don't think this bike will ever leave my quiver. On that note...I think the geometry of the Rift Zone, combined with the single pivot rear end, make a lockout virtually useless. I've done some long climbs (1700-2000 ft) without the lockout on and was surprised at how capable it is.

[@downtoridemtb]

I’m guessing you meant the Alpine Trail because the Hawk Hill - now called Rift Zone 27.5 - is only 130/120mm travel. If so, yeah that thing looks nice! I’ve ridden more expensive bikes than my RZ2 and wasn’t very impressed but fitness and skill far outweigh bike spec if you’re comparing to other riders.

[@johnbiondolillo5188]

@@downtoridemtb Yes, sorry...meant to say Alpine Trail.

[@downtoridemtb]

@John Biondolillo yeah that thing looks rad!

[@ButerFiv]

Great video! Because of your original video I decided to go with the rift zone 1 because I planned on upgrading and adding my own parts and wanted the blue frame. However, if someone asked me on what bike to buy I would say to get the Canyon Neuron AL 6.0 SL for $2k or on sale right now for $1,600. But I really wanted the Marin purely for sentimental attachment to the brand and its history. Rift Zone 1 probably does as you think a better job of shifting in the drivetrain, I ride fairly hard, (I live down in Charlotte) and about a month ago I smashed the derailed on rock and took the entire paint of the side of it and the thing has still shifted perfectly since then. I ended up going with the Fox transfer dropper for $300 given it being the highest quality and slapped on an unused 2019 Fox float DPS performance shock that I found for $150 online (same shock used on the Rift Zone 3) and the shock is perfect for the bike. So for effectly the same price as the Rift Zone 2 you can get a kickass dropper and shock for the same price, however you give up the 12 speed drivetrain. So far I have done: carbon handlebar, fox dps shock, wtb rims, i9 101 rear hub, wtb rims, Trail Boss 2.4 front and rear, sram gx cranks Definitely, have put more money into it, but I wanted specific parts on the bike so I went with the Rift Zone 1.

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks! The blue frame is nice. That Canyon Neuron looks solid too. It’s one of the few bikes that I still wonder about, like hmm maybe I should have got that instead. Grass is always greener on the other side mentality. What you have done with upgrading the RZ1 is exactly what I was talking about. You can get more for the same cost if you do it right and you’re fine spending the time tracking down and swapping parts.

[@jacobgodfrey4447]

Andrew, on the RZ1 when you got new wheels did you have to get new dropouts or adapters? I’m doing the same thing, I ordered the RZ1 at the end of March and am just waiting for it to arrive. In the mean time I’ve already purchased a seam nx drivetrain, dropper post, and I have Shimano slx brakes to swap onto it as well. I’m gonna wait until i kill the rear shock before replacing it, but I’ve been looking at getting some halo wheels and saw that the RZ1 has a QR axel that can be converted to 148 TA, just wondering how the conversion actually works.

[@ButerFiv]

@@jacobgodfrey4447 It's very easy. There is no adaptor or dropout needed to convert it. All you have to do is remove this small piece that comes on the bike. Imagine a standard 12x148 axel, how it has threads on it that fit a 12mm threaded hole. Essentially the RZ1 comes with a small metal adaptor that screws into that 12mm thread to make it a 9mm thread. All you have to do is unscrew that piece and it becomes your standard 12x148. Hard to explain but very easy. You could do it by hand, no tool required. I highly recommend on changing out that rear wheel if you plan on ridding hard. It makes the bike feel more put together having that extra stiffness in the rear.

[@geoff650r]

An FYI, a finicky rear mech can be caused by a bent derailleur hanger! Park Tool has a great video on checking for that, or you could ask your LBS.

[@downtoridemtb]

Yeah I checked it by a very crude technique and it looked fine. Might be time to purchase a proper alignment tool. It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve needed one.

[@3stanmb201]

I also had that noise for quite some time on the stem of my marin san quentin, and it just disappeared just the way it suddenly started.

[@downtoridemtb]

Ha that’s funny. Dirt must have dislodged itself.

[@jimh3665]

I’m having a terrible clicking from the stem area... with only 100 miles on the bike I doubt it’s dirt. Other than that great for value.

[@downtoridemtb]

Check the stem and all the controls that clamp on the bars. They get some sort of oxidation underneath that can cause lots of noises. I have a light layer of grease between all those things.

[@diegoreynagarcia6294]

Tires are sloooooooow rolling jajaaj Im totally agree with you, I replaced them to Continental TrailKing and they have incredible more rolling. Greetings from México.

[@downtoridemtb]

I need to look into Continental for my next set of tires. I like my Maxxis setup but it seems like they are getting more and more expensive. You have the TrailKings front and back?

[@BentSpokesMTB]

I know this video is a little older but I really think the big difference is the through axle on the 2 and 3. which to me definitely makes it the better buy. Upgrading the 1 would probably cost more then Upgrading the 2.. thank you for this video. I'm ordering the 2 🤙.. Subbed

[@downtoridemtb]

Hope you enjoy the new RZ2! I’m still riding and enjoying mine. The frame on the RZ1 is compatible somehow with boost thru axle. Something about spacers or something you have to remove. But your point is well taken because you’d need a new wheel or at least hub and the axle which definitely isn’t cheap

[@jamessbca]

Great video. I'm thinking of getting a Rift Zone 1 to use as a base to change components as I find the weaker spots, then just really "go for it" with those components.

[@downtoridemtb]

Yeah it’s definitely a good base for upgrading. Nearly 3 years later and I’m still enjoying mine.

[@jamessbca]

@@downtoridemtb Nice!!! I'm struggling with a size to get. I'm 5'9" tall. No close bike shops to try them out, so I'll order online. It seems some people tend to go "up" in size with these. EDIT: I'm looking at the Rift Zone 27.5

[@deanlanglois8185]

There 2 small screws on your derailer that sit side by side that you can refine your gears with watch a video or 2 on adjusting gears and your gears will be 10 out of 10 again i hope that helps you 🙃

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks. Those two screws are really just for setting the upper and lower limits. I’ve messed around with the indexing and setting the b limit screw which has seemed to help.

[@nathancouse3596]

Some helpful tips I immediately put volume spacers in my rear shock. U can fit up to 4 and I have my maced out (it's my mini enduro bike) but for starters try the knar dog. It's super simple to install and u will notice pedal bob way less. Second u can upgrade to gx cranks and a sram dub bb for fairly cheap and save a ton of weight . 3rd ditch thos heavy wtb tires. I have a maxxis high roller in the front and a maxxis aggressor in the rear 2.5 wt( normal eco casing) and both tires still weigh under 900 grams and roll faster than your wtb. I would do all thos to start and u will notice your bike transformed for under 300 dollars. I also went ahead and did some bardering lol and got some stans arch wheelset and a xx1 cassette (dirt cheap) and insane difference with rolling weight. And lastly I got a used front rockshox pike of ebay. I have roughly 3500 into and if I could do it over I'd probably go with something different. But it definitely helped so much. I wouldn't go getting a wheelset and a fork but I do suggest swapping the cranks and bb out getting lighter and faster rolling tires and especially tokens for rear shock

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks for all those tips. I do plan on messing with some volume reducers when it’s time to pull the shock apart and replace seals and stuff. Similar situation with the tires, I will replace them with something lighter when they wear out, probably Maxxis. Do you know if it’s possible to keep the SX crank and just swap in a Dub bottom bracket? Looks like the GX crank won’t do much for weight savings but the bottom bracket definitely will.

[@nathancouse3596]

@@downtoridemtb no u cant fit a dub bb to the sx cranks the sx cranks power spline bb so it's all connected. Sram gx cranks are 2 piece and a dub bb is just 2 sealed bearings on either end. And as far as the volume spacers there like 15 usd for a pack of 3.... super cheap upgrade that is definitely worth doing and u can find super helpful tutorials on the rear shock to put them in about 30 min job start to finish

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks for the response. Bummer that I have to get a new crank too but it seems probably still worth it to shed that amount of weight.

[@OLKIEMTB]

Congrats on 1k subscribers!

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks!

[@PainfulFateX]

Congrats on 1k subs! Would you say the 'GT Avalanche Comp 2020' is worth the money for a beginner bike?

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks! Yes if you can get the one that has the 1x drivetrain.

[@toanmaxdark7]

Congrats on 1k bud. The other difference is the thru axle and the brakes. As far as the shifting, I've noticed every time if problems like you explain, it ends up being a hub. Then again, I have really rocky trails in Arizona. Good videos my dude. Looking forward to 5k subscribers

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks! Good point on the thru axle. Thing is I doubt many people would even notice the difference from purely a riding experience. But yeah it is quick release and I think it’s some sort of 141 hub with spacers to fit 148. As for the brakes, I think it’s just the smaller rear rotor on the RZ1. Another thing that most people wouldn’t notice by riding it. Probably. Question about what you said about the hub causing shifting issues... how do you diagnose that officially? I’ve already had one hub failure so maybe it’s another just not as catastrophically.

[@baddriversofcolga]

@@downtoridemtb The SX drivetrain is notorious for being problematic and cheaply made so I can only imagine it's just a problem with it and not the hub, and I don't know how the hub would have anything to do with the shifting anyway.

[@LiveNeverSummer]

I just found out on mine that it's the rear derailer. Shram is warranting them out because the first batch or something like that had to soft of springs.

[@toanmaxdark7]

@@downtoridemtb on my San Quentin 1, there was a broken screw in the freehub that had to be replaced. Caused my rear wheel to wobble a lot. My 2017 Cannondale Cujo (same hub) needed the freehub replaced. Could also be a bent hangar from shipping.

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks everyone. I just checked and the hub seems fine. The wheel doesn’t wobble at all. I checked the derailleur hanger with a crude method I found online and it seems fine. I’ll look into that rear derailleur warranty stuff, maybe it is soft springs that have lost some tension.

[@olliehines3021]

You should try using fork juice on the front and rear sus as well as dropper before you ride, feels like new every time!

[@downtoridemtb]

I do use it occasionally. Usually after washing the bike.

[@matsbrigade55]

congrats to another great video and 1k subs! you´re right about the sx, it really has its issues when it comes to precision.. another thing that somehow annoys me is the low engagement of the hub, especially in technical terrain (which we have a lot here in bavaria).. other than that, and after putting a pike on, it really is a very capable bike! .. well, mine would be, if i wouldn´t be sitting at home recovering from a crash (broken ankle plus torn ligament) XD stay safe, wherever you are! :)

[@downtoridemtb]

Yeah the hub engagement isn’t great either but I really wouldn’t expect anything more on a bike in this price range. Hope you’re healing up well! Hopefully the bike made it through the crash better than you did!

[@matsbrigade55]

@@downtoridemtb you´re right, it´s really a lot of bike for the money. thanks, i can´t wait to slowly start riding again in about 2 weeks. the bike took that crash without any damage, yes.. :)

[@downtoridemtb]

That’s good, enjoy it when you can get back out there!

[@aaronbarneswmu]

Regarding the drive train hunting for sprockets, check your rear derailleur cable where it seats into the derailleur. My Rift Zone 3 2019 was doing the same thing and the cable keeps getting pulled due to the rear suspension movements and will partially pull the cable end out of the seated position causing the cable adjustment to change.

[@downtoridemtb]

Hmm yeah I’ll keep an eye on that. I’ve got it adjusted to a point where it’s actually working quite well. But of course I’ve thought that before and then it will get all funky for no clear reason.

[@jeremydwyer2724]

Have a 2021 RZ3 on order. Also riding in eastern Virginia. Appears to address the majority of the dislikes you mentioned with the exception of the tires- I do plan to replace the rear w/a Maxxis Ardent or something like that but just roll w/the "Slow Snap" in the front.

[@downtoridemtb]

Good choice! Even the new RZ2 addresses most of my complaints. I think continuing to run the Slow Snap up front is a good plus you’ll basically a new front tire just waiting for you. Ardent is a good rear tire. So is a Recon which I’m running. Of course now I’m kind of looking at the Dissector too. So many choices! Let me know if you’re ever in the Richmond area, would love to do a little comparison video.

[@jeremydwyer2724]

@@downtoridemtb Just got home from first trail ride at Harwood's Mill in Newport News. Was relieved that the clunky shifting I experienced in my driveway went away pretty quickly w/some tweaking to barrel adjuster and just from putting some miles on to work everything together. Coming from a Deore 10-spd, I was able to appreciate the added gear range. No way I'll ever need more than 12-spd though and I actually think that 11-spd might be the sweet spot as far as I'm concerned. I agree w/your assessment on the weight, it is fairly heavy but that said, it is still faster than my HH1 ever was- even with the 'Slow-Snap' out front.(I ended up swapping out to a Maxxis High Roller 2.3 at the rear which is still gets a ton of grip but rolls a little faster) I turned in my best time on the B trail w/out even really trying. I was pleasantly surprised at how I was able to climb with it. Video reviews tended to call it a crappy climber and maybe it is for really extended ones but thankfully, I don't do those. I was able to get things dialed just right. I think that is in large part due to the better Fox rear shock than my HH1 had (X-Fusion) combined with the bigger 29" wheels which once rolling, tend to keep forward momentum better. On the topic of those wheels, they are near silent- a negative in my book as I am among those who prefer noisy hubs. Similar to exhaust pipes on a motorcycle, I guess. Anyway, my plan is to keep the current stock wheelset w/trail tires for the fall/winter months and next spring put on some aftermarket wheels w/some xc tires to really fly around the local trails. One last little niggle, I had a couple of issues with the paint right off the bat. When I loosened seat clamp to adjust saddle position, I had a couple of paint flakes fall off the seat tube, leaving some unsightly areas around top of seat tube.- Perhaps they over-torqued it at the shop. At least the collar covers that area up but doesn't inspire confidence about the paint everywhere else. Seat clamp was also stripped at the bolt and I had to find another from my parts bin. One other blemish was noted near the rear shock which is probably the result of it taking a knock during assembly at GovVelo. Not the worst thing ever as it's a mountain bike but a little sucky to already have two blemished areas during unboxing. My first experience buying complete bike online so perhaps that goes with the territory. They'll probably send me some touch up paint or something. Bike performed well. I sized down to medium at 5'10" and aside from wanting to maybe lengthen the stem to 40mm (would like to be a little more stretched than I was today) and move one of the spacers from above to below stem to raise stack height, I think it is pretty dialed in for me. Already not as cramped as I was on the HH thanks to the longer reach on the RZ. Brakes were good as was the Marzocchi fork. Dropper works great- I've put X-Fusion Manic on other bikes with good results. Grips were fine, as you mentioned, but mainly out of a desire to add a little more color up there, I'm going to pop some orange Ergon GE1's on. I will also be putting a true SLX rear cassette and chain on once I get new wheelset w/legit Micro-Spline rear hub. All that should lighten things up a bit. The Sunrace that comes w/stock wheels (and apparently a standard Shimano driver) will do for now though.

[@downtoridemtb]

Glad all went well on the first ride! I’m right there with you that a 10 or 11 speed would be just as good for most trails. I’m actually thinking about getting the Microshift Advent X for mine in the coming months. Cheap, wide range, lightweight and will work with my standard free hub body. Interesting that yours being a 2021 RZ3 doesn’t come with the microspline hub since the 2021 RZ2 does. How many clicks do you hear if you rotate the wheel around 1 complete revolution?

[@jeremydwyer2724]

@@downtoridemtb I could be wrong about that but I was under the impression that the Sunrace cassette found on the stock wheels was meant to go on standard Shimano freehub, not Micro Spline. Marin is known to do some jerry-rig solutions on the back wheel. My HH1 had a QR rear hub w/proprietary spacers added to make it fit into through axle frame. When I upgraded to Race Face Aeffect wheels on that one and made it a true thru axle, it was like adding Nitrous- or at least produced an equivalent placebo effect. Anyway, to answer your question, 15 clicks. My hardtail is also a 29er so I think my next investment will be in a quality set of wheels from Industry Nine out of NC. Between the two bikes(mainly this Marin), I'm sure I'll get sufficient use from them. I also just pony'd up for a set of PNW Range bars and 40mm stem. I still felt a tad cramped on size medium at 5'10" with stock bars and stem. Made similar mods to my old HH and that worked out great. By this time next week, should have it just the way I want it.

[@downtoridemtb]

Oh you’re definitely right about the hub, that is what their site says too. So strange because the cheaper 2021 RZ2 comes with Deore microspline hubs with double the points of engagement. Anyway still a great bike and tons of fun regardless.

[@TheBicycleRider]

Fantastic video! You really do a good job at this and are very talented! I really enjoy your style and honesty I also like the fact that you actually ride this bike to get your opinions. That's kind of funny but I did not know that the v tire crown gems were not tubeless ready. I've had mine set up tubeless for over a year now with no problems at all I only have to top offer there once in awhile and I've never had any sealant leak out of the sidewalls. Just a quick fact from someone who has made the mistake and set these up tuples. Keep up the great work on the videos You're awesome!

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks, yeah it’s all real stuff. No sugar coating. Also thanks for pointing that out about the Crown Gems. They are wire bead (at least according to specs) so they aren’t “intended” to be tubeless but with some wire bead tires you can still do it. So that is awesome that you are able to do it successfully! Makes me like them even more and makes that RZ1 an even better value.

[@NathanDobbinsthelordscheeps]

I’ve got a nail trail 7 from Marin with crown gem tires. They say tubeless ready on them and I have the tubeless, but maybe they stock a cheaper version on the rift zone.

[@downtoridemtb]

Yeah they say wire bead at least on the specs so o thought that always meant not tubeless ready. But of course manufacturers change things up sometimes depending on what is available.

[@norrisfodder]

I'm still on the stock vee tires and yes they are heavy and will be replaced when they're worn out. Same experience with the SX mech not dropping down from the 50t. Constantly adjusting cable barrel. It will be replaced with an NX mech along the way. I was pleasantly surprised with the Recon fork and I have read somewhere that low end rock shox all perform a little differently depending on what way the wind is blowing. Lol. Nice review, I was the same, looking for a trail bike with a 2k budget and now after owning it for 6 months my thoughts on it are very similar to yours. Having said that though, no regrets and it is fantastic fun. Overall a great bike for the money, just gotta spend a little to get it how you want it.

[@downtoridemtb]

I’d suggest swapping out the rear tire even if it isn’t worn out. The stock one is pretty decent for a front tire though and I recently weighed mine and it’s actually just under 1050g. As for the drivetrain, I was thinking about going full GX. Now I’m actually looking at the Microshift Advent X. 10 speed 11-48t that weighs less than GX and is like half the price, maybe even less than half. Pretty enticing.

[@norrisfodder]

Well after again setting up the mechanical limits on the SX mech and having yet another shift causing the chain to go over the top I junked it and installed a GX shifter and mech. Absolute night and day, finally got an eagle 12 set up that works as intended. I think either the limit screws would move on the SX or their is too much flex in the plastic body when shifting under load.

[@downtoridemtb]

Glad the GX has solved it for you! I’ve got my SX working pretty decently now. It goes in and out of all gears well. Very rarely it will double up shift in one gear for a split second before going to where it was supposed to go. I’ll still probably be upgrading it anyway before too long though. Torn between GX or going a totally different direction with the Microshift Advent X.

[@edwardvanwormer6993]

Great review! I just got the Rift Zone 1. I'm not a fan of SRAM,so the Shimano drivetrain was the deciding factor for me. I set up the stock tires tubeless and added a dropper. Love the bike! I'm curious about your air pressure settings though. I had to actually go higher on the pressure as it felt mushy at lower pressures. I'm 5'10" 185 for comparison sake. Congrats on the 1k!!

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks! So I have recently bumped the rear up to 165psi. Although we have different shocks so it isn’t really comparable. The front is just a hair over 75 currently. I never bottomed it out even with my previous lower settings but the sag was too much and I was getting too many pedal strikes. I really liked the cushier feeling at the back though but I guess that is just personal preference. I’m about 180lbs. Can you do me a favor and weigh your bike? Really curious how it compares especially since you have added the dropper. I weighed mine by weighing myself holding and not holding the bike and doing the subtraction.

[@edwardvanwormer6993]

@@downtoridemtb I am coming off a hardtail, so maybe eventually I'll soften it a little. I rode some really technical rock trails and was happy with the firmer feel. I will weigh my bike tomorrow and comment back here with results.

[@downtoridemtb]

Sound good, interested to find out. As far as pressure, I’m warming up to the firmer feel of more pressure. Feels more responsive.

[@edwardvanwormer6993]

@@downtoridemtb So it looks to be 33 lbs. Maybe a touch less. Raceface Chester's and Elite bottle cage. I will be upgrading the drivetrain to Shimano XT and also the brakes. I'll post an update with the weight again after that.

[@downtoridemtb]

Wow that’s not bad. Mine is 35 with the pedals and bottle cage. That SX drivetrain must really be a boat anchor compared to your shimano setup. If you do upgrade your drivetrain and decide to sell your stock one, let me know. My email address is in the channel about info.

[@davidwales9657]

never set up suspension with the goal of "using all the travel". Set it up for sag.

[@NathanDobbinsthelordscheeps]

My Marin Nail Trail has that same noise. I’ll have to try that out.

[@downtoridemtb]

Hope it works for you!

[@hindesite]

Isn't the other big difference bewteen the RZ1 and RZ2 is that the RZ1 doesn't have a 148 Boost rear hub? Has spacers to fit the 148 Boost frame?

[@downtoridemtb]

That is a very important difference that I forgot to mention. The average rider, myself included, probably wouldn’t feel a difference riding. But it is kind of funny the extent Marin went there to save a few bucks on the RZ1.

[@MrGuitarplayerdude]

I bought the rift zone 3. Man those damn tires are slow. Im killing myself uphill. Amazing for downhill though. Did switching tires make a noticeable difference

[@downtoridemtb]

Yes pretty big difference. I’d suggest replacing the rear tire at the very least. Trail Boss, Ardent, Aggressor or even a Minion DHR would all be an improvement.

[@Sam_Jones011]

Great help, thanks mate

[@downtoridemtb]

Welcome!

[@wescollier4521]

Was looking at the rift zone 1 and found your comments helpful. Curious as to the size frame that you bought relative to your height? Found your comments about your terrain useful as well. I'm in Florida and obviously we don't have any long climbs and are constantly up and down short runs and mostly flats so not even sure how much a dropper post makes here much less lock outs. Thanks for the review!

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks for watching! I got the Large. I’m 6ft so I’m right in the middle of the recommended range for large. The dropper is useful even for quick descents and obstacles. Just gets the seat out of the way and you can move around a lot more.

[@spencercupit]

Thanks , great vid

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks for watching!

[@bitumen83]

So real question is why you didn't bought Rift Zone 3? It is around 600$ more, but you get much better fork, rear shock and all components in general.

[@downtoridemtb]

That’s a good question. My budget was $2000 and I had to stick to that. Plus you could keep playing the “next model up is only a little more” game and wind up with the over $4000 carbon version.

[@bitumen83]

@@downtoridemtb I see. Anyway that is good bike with great geo. Happy ride!

[@downtoridemtb]

Happy riding to you too!

[@meteormedia7021]

Thats a nice backyard!

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks. Lucky time to film it in the spring with the grass looking nice and green. It’s never that green by the end of the summer.

[@borangle8585]

I owned the 2019 RZ 2 and also had oil leaking from the rear shock, maybe something common with these shocks? I was advised this was normal, and it only subsided after > 500km of trail riding which I think is a bit strage. I also had an issue with the Rockshox Recon 'clack' noise on compression which had to be repaired under warranty. Apart from that the bike was an almost perfect fast trail machine. Looks like the 2020 model is very similar with some slight improvements.

[@TNTFRUIT1]

i own the 2019 also, i put some good brakes, forks (140mm), shock, tyres and its set some pretty impressive times on Fort William world cup and innerleithen

[@danbob1650]

I'm 5'10-11" ish 180lb found used one but it XL what your thoughts on getting it. Price is under market value

[@downtoridemtb]

I think an XL is going to be too big for you. I’d wait to find a large even if it costs slightly more or is further away

[@edilbertoa]

Hi There! Just bought my Marin Rift Zone 2 about 9 months ago and I am having the same problem with my back wheel hub. Do you know if Marine will replace it if I contact them?

[@downtoridemtb]

You have to go through an authorized dealer. It’s within the 1 year warranty so they should replace it.

[@hfausto7926ify]

Can you describe the issue?

[@mikewhite5794]

Weird you talk about hub failure...my rear wheel is continually coming loose on my RZ1. I have quick release not thru axle however I’m not sending it on gigantic gap jumps that would cause a QR to fail like it is. Would you speak more to the issue you had?

[@downtoridemtb]

Mine had a loud bang after a drop then the wheel moved around laterally even with the axle still tight. So something internal in the hub. Is it just your qr skewer coming loose? Sure you have it going through the correct side (if it’s even possible to put it in the wrong side)?

[@mikewhite5794]

Down to Ride MTB dang that is exactly what is going on with mine. Wheel will loosen and move laterally.

[@downtoridemtb]

Get in touch with whoever you bought it from and try to get a warranty replacement.

[@lukasdolezal8245]

thanks for this video!

[@downtoridemtb]

You’re quite welcome!

[@j.berendtphotography9694]

Congrats on 1000 Subs! Ya just got one more! And yeah I got the Rift Zone 3 and the tires ARE SLOW. I think that's the first thing I'm going to replace for RVA riding. I found that they slide all over pebbles and gravel but bite REALLY hard on soft ground and leaves. Better suited for Poco I think but for downtown... Ima need different tires.

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks for watching and subscribing! Those tires really are bad. I think they are even worse at a place like Pocahontas where it is more pedally. Even blueberry downhill, had to pedal in spots where normally I could just pump and flow down. Anyway, hope to see you out on the trails sometime. Also if you ever upgrade your fork/shock/drivetrain let me know, I might be interested in the stock parts.

[@j.berendtphotography9694]

@@downtoridemtb ooof. That bad? Haha I haven't been out on a long ride with it yet... And I just got it so no upgrades any time soon haha (well except the tires of course)

[@downtoridemtb]

Haha no worries, never hurst to ask. Anyway enjoy the bike and yeah save yourself some annoyance by swapping at least the rear tire before you do a long ride. Unless you like torturing yourself and making yourself work harder.

[@jeffloucks2120]

Well dang... guess this is the RVA Marin section. Was just plonking around on a small RZ1 to check out sizing today. Saw an RZ3 up on the stand... which I think I'd go for if I could. Gov Velo sold their last small RZ3 in the last 24 hrs. :( Interesting discussion on getting the 1 and upgrading.

[@downtoridemtb]

Yeah if you want a bike that you’ll probably not even think of upgrades, go with the RZ3. Tires would be the only thing because it still comes with those Vee Tire Slow Snaps. Other than that, you’re set. Anyway hope to see you out on the trails sometime on whichever one you get!

[@ramoer]

I bought one of these in Feb, cant ride ATM nursing a broken elbow. How do you like the rear tire upgrade? Climbing this thing on the socal trails is a slog. Thinking tires is my first upgrade, what do you recommend?

[@downtoridemtb]

The tire change has made a noticeable difference. As I said in the video, Marin sent these to me for free. If it were my own money, I’m not sure I’d choose the Vigilante up front. It’s still pretty heavy. Very durable and lots of grip though. Some combos I’ve thought about trying... 2.4 Trail Boss in the rear and 2.6 Trail Boss up front. Or if I went with Maxxis, Ardent or Aggressor in the rear and a High Roller or DHR I’m the front. I know the DHR is usually a rear tire but like the Vigilante, the DHF is too aggressive and too heavy for my riding. Good luck with your choice and wishing you a speedy elbow recovery!

[@lawsonroesch101]

Very helpful thanks

[@downtoridemtb]

Glad to help!

[@TheNUCKS4422]

I bought the Rift Zone 3 and it is definitely the better value over the entire Rift Zone line. I replaced the rear tire with a Maxxis Aggressor and love it! The SLX drivetrain has also been amazing!! I am starting to have the same issue with my rear hub. Exactly what happened to your rear hub? The shocks (Front and Rear) are night and day better than the RZ 1 or 2.

[@downtoridemtb]

I went off a small drop and heard a bang and then the rear wheel had lateral play with the axle still being tight. There was also lateral play at the cassette. What is your hub issue?

[@TheNUCKS4422]

@@downtoridemtb My hub is getting the same slight side-to-side play and it sounds really dry inside the sealed bearings. I am an amateur bike mechanic with years of experience servicing hubs and I can't figure out how to pull the hub body to service the bearings.

[@downtoridemtb]

Yeah I’ll do a lot myself but hubs and bottom brackets are beyond me partially in terms of skills and partially specialty tools that I don’t have. If the hub is defective then Marin should fix or replace it under warranty.

[@TheNUCKS4422]

@@downtoridemtb hopefully they'll send me a service manual and I can do it, if not I'll probably just upgrade to a better wheelset with nicer hubs that are more simple to maintain.

[@FoCoFlowShow]

Congrats on 1k Subs, Dude! That’s awesome - I’ll get there sometime this year if all goes well! Are you going to monetize the channel (I would) !?!?

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks! You’ll get there, you’re off to a much faster start that me. I’m not sure if I’m going to monetize it yet. I’ll probably at least try it out but I haven’t even signed up to go through the review process to get approved (which you can start long before 1000).

[@FoCoFlowShow]

Down to Ride MTB awesome - LMK how it goes - for me I just think it would be cool to get to a point where I can fund my MTB hobby with the channel - I don’t have any desire to be a full time YTer but if I could offset the cost that would be cool

[@downtoridemtb]

I think you have to get a lot more than 1k subscribers and subsequent views for that to happen. Of course that depend on how much it takes to fund your habit... I mean hobby. We shall see. Anything will help because a lot of time and money can go into just the video production side of it.

[@FoCoFlowShow]

Down to Ride MTB oh for sure - I’m trying to keep the investment minimal on the video prod side if at all possible - def need to grow the channel well beyond 1k to get there

[@robo1989]

Can we use it on pavement roads? Always on pavement kind of roads. Or a hardtail would be better? Like giant fathom 2

[@downtoridemtb]

I wouldn’t recommend it for pavement. No lockout on the rear shock. Hardtail or even a gravel bike if you do mostly paved and occasional trails.

[@joethompson297]

I would never buy a MTB based on the stock tires, they wear out fast and will be replaced anyway. Also, a dropper is mandatory, unless you just ride on smooth park trails

[@downtoridemtb]

I don’t know how people rode before dropper posts!

[@bobbybushey2694]

I’m thinking about buying the frame and build up? Is that more costly?

[@downtoridemtb]

Generally yes but it depends on your goals and what you’re paying for the frame. If you have a very specific build in mind, then go for it, it will be cheaper than buying a complete bike and then replacing a lot of stuff. Otherwise just get the complete bike that has most of what you want.

[@joaquinleon7362]

Hey dude, have you try putting some grease on the stem a small layer so it prevent dirt, water going in ?

[@downtoridemtb]

I’ve heard conflicting opinions on that. The sound did come back after a few rides so I cleaned it again and greased just the stem bolts and it has been good since.

[@atmusic9694]

So I'm hearing a lot of people saying that their hub is failing as well. I don't have one yet but I was thinking of getting an RZ1. Should I replace The Hubs immediately? Or wait until they fail and just keep doing that till the warranty is up. The one thing is, is I'm not sure I like the idea of being stranded with a broken hub.

[@downtoridemtb]

The 2021 RZ 2 comes with Deore hubs so shouldn’t be a problem anymore. Not sue what the other build levels have though. In any case, neither failure stranded me. Just left me with a loose cassette body and wonky shifting.

[@atmusic9694]

@@downtoridemtb the 2021 RZ1 has a: Shimano HB-MT200B, 141 QR, Centerlock, Standard Freehub Body

[@atmusic9694]

@@downtoridemtb Do you know what that one's like?

[@downtoridemtb]

I don’t. But I definitely wouldn’t consider it “replace it right away” part. One thing to keep in mind with the RZ1 is that the back wheel is only boost 141 with spacers to fit the boost 148 frame. So when that hub does eventually meet its demise, you’ll want to upgrade to something with the 148.

[@amsyarazhar7865]

Hey there. How would you compare the Rift Zone 2 to a Polygon Siskiu T7? Geometry wise, climb, descent etc. Suspension travel seems to be slightly more on the T7 it seems.

[@downtoridemtb]

Yeah you get more travel, better tires, and compression adjustment on the Polygon. It is definitely a better package and something that I considered but bikesonline.com was very new at that point. I went with the Marin partly for the brand and partly because there are local Marin dealers to help with warranty claims and service.

[@amsyarazhar7865]

@@downtoridemtb I see. So judging on the bikes alone, you would've gone with the Siskiu T7 I presume?

[@downtoridemtb]

@@amsyarazhar7865 yes, that is correct

[@BobbyMarko]

Thanks for the review. Been trying to decide on my first full suspension. Been looking at the RZ1, Polygon Siskui D7/T7 and the Motobecane Hal29 Boost. All sub $2k which is where I need to be. The geometry on all seem to be similar so it just comes down to stock parts. I’m still new so have no experience with differences in shocks, brakes, drivetrain, etc. Any thoughts on how those compare to the Rift Zone?

[@downtoridemtb]

Polygon bikes are good and there is a lot of evidence that they are built in the same factory as Marin. The Motobecane bikes offer a lot in terms of higher spec components. I considered both, and also the Vitus Mythique which is a nice package. What it came down to for me was wanting something that had more local shop support for parts or warranty issues. Polygon has only one online US distributor. Motobecane is only sold through Bikes Direct. Vitus is only sold through Chain Reaction Cycles in the UK. Not to knock any of them though because if you look at specs only, they are generally more appealing than the Rift Zone. You may want to narrow things down based on the trails in your area and how much travel you need and/or want.

[@BobbyMarko]

Down to Ride MTB I live in Tennessee so we probably have similar trails to Virginia. I’m still new so I don’t need anything spec’d out like crazy but want a frame I can build upon but also have decent parts to begin with. The geometry of the Rift Zone is what’s appealing. Looks like a bike I can upgrade for years to come. But yeah, the Polygon is right up there. At the moment though there’s no supply of any of these so I’m using the time to decide. Thanks for your videos, keep up the great work!

[@downtoridemtb]

Good luck with your choice. Hopefully they come back in stock soon!

[@redbeardedlegend4362]

Bobby, I’m in the same boat as you regarding budget. Did you decide on a bike? I’m leaning toward a Giant Trance X 29, but I really like these Marins, too.

[@BobbyMarko]

I went with the Fezzari Abajo Peak, it was available within two months after I ordered it. I did have to make some upgrades because I was putting the bike through more than the components were ready to handle. You check out my stuff in my new channel @mtbover40

[@ramoer]

How do you feel about it now? Ive had this bike since February, already thinking about getting a SC Hightower or Ibis Ripmo lol. 😝

[@downtoridemtb]

Aside from the weight and the absolute crap rear hub... second Marin one failed so I upgraded... I love it. I dropped some weight with a bb and crank upgrade. I actually got to ride a buddies 2019 Ibis Ripmo AF last week. The rear shock felt more plush and it pedaled surprising well for having Assegi tires. Weight was comparable. GX drivetrain felt imprecise although that could have just been bad setup. Sram guide brakes were weird. It was like no braking through the motion then immediate hard braking. Overall my Marin just felt more solid. But the biggest surprising factor is that the Ripmo felt like it had a shorter wheel base and like the head tube angle was steeper or just that you were closer to the front wheel. Both bikes were large frame size. I think before you jump ship you should at least try to ride those other bikes because expectation was far different than reality for me.

[@ramoer]

Yeah I don’t plan on upgrading until later in the year. The weight in the RZ is tough. I upgraded to better rolling tires and I installed a go derailleur (enormous improvement from the sx). I want to lighten this bike up, any other suggestions? Cranks and BB?

[@downtoridemtb]

@@ramoer yeah cranks and BB are probably the most bang for your buck weight savings. The powerspline BB is so heavy. I went with Truativ Descendant cranks which are the same as Sram GX and a Dub bottom bracket. Approx 0.7lbs lighter. Short of going carbon, they are about the lightest you’ll find. Lighter than anything FSA or RaceFace that I looked at. The cassette is also heavy. GX will save a bit but means you’ll need a Sram XD driver hub. I swapped seats for a WTB volt for comfort but I could tell it was a little lighter just by holding it. Only other thing I’m thinking, but I don’t know for sure, is that the dropper post could be on the heavy side. Cheap ones usually are.

[@TheCow467]

What happened when the rear hub failed? I had several issues with the bike but the worst one was something loosened in the rear hub that caused the axle to come out. I caught it the first time but the second time the whole wheel came off, crashed and ended up hurting my arm really bad. Was your issue similar?

[@downtoridemtb]

I had a loud bang and the rear wheel was wobbly. The axle was tight the whole time though. Hope your arm is ok.

[@almin9751]

Have like 25 years without riding, last one was a Diamondback... are these Marín bikes still any good or turned out crappy ones compared to specialized and trek?

[@downtoridemtb]

I think they are good

[@almin9751]

@@downtoridemtb thanks pal

[@morbitalok]

great review, thanks! Q:what size are you? what frame size you choose, how does it fits you?

[@downtoridemtb]

6ft on a large and it fits perfectly 👍

[@morbitalok]

Down to Ride MTB Thanks. Im 5’10 (178cm). Im between suggested sizes, but Today I choose L as well, seems to fit nice!

[@barteks7937]

@@morbitalok Hi, and how that size?

[@morbitalok]

@@barteks7937 i like it, for „downhill”, „drops” -going straight it work fabulous, but for cornering it lack of agility due to serial dropper post of 120mm. I changed dropper post to 180mm oneup limited to 160mm and it is waaaaaayyyy batter in terms of cornering ;) of course it is personal dependent

[@endriuu100]

what size did you choose and what is your height in cm? whether it was the right choice?

[@downtoridemtb]

Large. I’m 6ft not sure about cm. Size is perfect for me.

[@joeblack4026]

the deore is lighter and it will definetely be better shifting

[@downtoridemtb]

Bummer for me! Live and learn I guess.

[@davidp657]

Is the rear Shock a coil or a air rear Shock ?

[@downtoridemtb]

Air

[@davidp657]

@@downtoridemtb ok thanks

[@shqdy9861]

Gonna buy a rift zone 3 in about 2 months

[@downtoridemtb]

Nice! Check the stock on them because if you want it in a couple months you might have to order it pretty soon. Just a lot of stuff on back order right now.

[@shqdy9861]

Down to Ride MTB thanks for the tip

[@Arson1980]

Would the rift zone hold a 250 lbs person?

[@downtoridemtb]

I think I saw somewhere that 300 was the max but don’t take my word for it. If so, you’ll just need to run the appropriate amount of air in the fork, shock and tires.

[@richardulrich9001]

I have this bike and I'm over 250.

[@ethanmoore7648]

9:18 My SX Eagle does that too

[@downtoridemtb]

Try adjusting your b-limit screw so the derailleur gets a little closer to the cassette. Seems to have helped on mine.

[@ethanmoore7648]

@@downtoridemtb how many turns in which way

[@downtoridemtb]

Counterclockwise will move it closer. It’s all based on the measurement from the top derailleur jockey wheel to the biggest gear. So shift into the biggest gear first. SRAM recommends a 15mm gap but less seems better for me. I’ve probably got 8mm or so. Keep in mind that on a full suspension bike this gap will grow as the rear shock gets into its natural sag position. You’ll also probably need to adjust the barrel adjuster after doing this.

[@gabrielflores1149]

I just bought a Rift Zone 2 and clearly has a Deore?

[@downtoridemtb]

Yep you have a 2021 model. Consider yourself lucky, not only will that Deore hub last longer, it has double the points of engagement.

[@gabrielflores1149]

@@downtoridemtb Yup - great!

[@gabrielflores1149]

@@downtoridemtb Any recommended upgrades? What tire do you recommend for more street-riding versatility? Appreciate it.

[@downtoridemtb]

Street riding I don’t know. But if you want something that’s better on roads but still ok on trails, check out Maxxis Icon and Ardent. Or check out the “race” versions of their tires. Will be lighter and lower tread.

[@crimsongaming185]

Hello, I am very keen on this bike but scared about the weight I would like a bike that climbs very well and descends very well but losing those heavy tires will that help heaps or just a little bit, or should I look or a different bike?

[@downtoridemtb]

I was incorrect on the tire weight. They are closer to 1050g each. Still on the heavy side but not terrible. Tread pattern still makes them slow though. Check out my latest video, the tires in that video made a huge difference to how the bike rides. The other biggest contributor to the weight is the SX Eagle drivetrain. Everything about it is heavy compared to a GX Eagle for example. Problem is, most bikes in this price range will have that same drivetrain.

[@crimsongaming185]

Down to Ride MTB ok

[@crimsongaming185]

Down to Ride MTB, I appreciate the information

[@Mr14041985]

Is the frame of the 1 exactly the same as the 2?

[@downtoridemtb]

Yes

[@teneightypee6999]

what one should i go for? 2020 Merida One Forty 400 2020 Marin Rift Zone 2 2019 Marin Hawk Hill 2 Thanks.

[@downtoridemtb]

That Merida looks nice. If you’re going for a Marin, maybe hold out for the 2021 models. The 2021 Hawk Hill was just released and they’ve gotten rid of the SX Eagle drivetrain in favor of a Shimano 12 speed.

[@teneightypee6999]

@@downtoridemtb thanks man I'll have a look

[@raymartagovida8070]

good day sir! I have a question to you sir. what is the problem that you encounter on the rear hub? thanks in advance ☺

[@downtoridemtb]

I went off a pretty mild drop and heard a loud banging noise. After that the rear wheel was moving around laterally even though the axle was tight. So something broke internally.

[@raymartagovida8070]

@@downtoridemtb thank you sir for your reply I really appreciate it.. i think we have the same issue after I hit a mild drop i started to hear clicking noise everytime I go 6th gear and it's so wobbly to the point that you can even see the cassette wobble when I spin it. although not so sure.. just want some piece of advice of what to do? by the way I just purchase a new rift zone 2 🙂

[@downtoridemtb]

Go through whatever shop you bought it from and have them do a warranty replacement with Marin. You could probably go to any Marin dealer for it.

[@raymartagovida8070]

@@downtoridemtb thank you sir. I appreciate it.

[@downtoridemtb]

No problem, hope they get it sorted out for you!

[@macauley70]

great !! do you have the weight of the frame alone? and what size is?

[@downtoridemtb]

No weight of the frame alone. Mine is a large.

[@macauley70]

@@downtoridemtb thanks. And you have the totak weight?

[@downtoridemtb]

It was 35 lbs stock with stock tires and tubes. No pedals or bottle cage.

[@JoeFlows]

I had the same Hub fail.

[@downtoridemtb]

Their hubs are terrible. My replacement has now failed too. Replaced at my own expense with something better.

[@jc-ev2jb]

thumbs up sub man, thanks for your info I am in the market

[@downtoridemtb]

Thanks. Good luck with your purchase!

[@antstechstuff1784]

What size is the one your reviewing

[@downtoridemtb]

Large. I’m right in the middle of the recommended height for large.

[@montanaeastman8405]

What happened with the hub

[@downtoridemtb]

Check out the last couple min of this video for details on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWjFd2aCgJh2lbc

[@owenr2413]

Do you think the rift zone 3 is worth the extra $$

[@downtoridemtb]

Well for me it was just simply above my budget so it was an immediate no. But if you have the budget for it then probably yes. It has better overall components and it will be lighter too. The weight is my biggest issue with the RZ2 and a lot of that comes from the SRAM SX Eagle drivetrain.

[@owenr2413]

Down to Ride MTB How is the pedaling platform? is there any noticeable pedal bob?

[@downtoridemtb]

It seems ok to me but to be honest I’ve only ever ridden 2 full suspension bikes

[@ibby81ae]

What about r3?

[@downtoridemtb]

Definitely worth considering. It was out my my budget so it was in instant no-go for me but it has some nice components.

[@aaronburela432]

#maringang

[@iliyadavoodipour6366]

i also had a hub fail on my rift zone 1. its a terrible bike for alot of reasons: no boost axle at the back, grips are garbage after 10 months of riding, very weak brakes, the cranks have a very weird chainring fit, and you have to dig deep in the internet for finding the right kind of chainring, for sreet riding you always wish for a bigger chainring, the cable routing is HORRIBLE, because the little plastic parts which the cable goes through on the frame are ripped apart after 5 months of riding, the drivetrain shifts really bad, because it doesnt have a shimano hyperglide chain, the sunrace casette wears pretty fast, the xfusion o2 pro has alot of stiction + no lockout, everything is heavy and manifactured with low quality and i have seen a broken rift zone 1 with my own eyes. marin also doesnt have a good cutomer service. i would never buy a marin again.

[@downtoridemtb]

That sucks that you’ve had such a bad experience with them. At the time of filming I didn’t realize the RZ1 had that non boost hub with spacers to fit the boost frame. So silly to save a few bucks. I mean you can only expect so much from just about the cheapest full suspension bike on the market though. One tip on those brakes is to move them in so you’re grabbing exactly at the end of the levers. Way more power that way. I moved mine onboard of the shifter and dropper lever to accomplish that.

[@iliyadavoodipour6366]

@@downtoridemtb the rz1 is not even almost good for its price. you could buy a canyon neuron and it would surely be way better + it has a dropper even at 1600$ version.

[@clmfilms8103]

So should I get a norco fluid fs 3 instead? I have heard a lot of people complain about problems with that one as well though...

[@iliyadavoodipour6366]

@@clmfilms8103 i mean, norco isnt bad, but overpriced as i see it. i would check out bikes from canyon, propain, radon, commencal and other direct sale companies.

[@clmfilms8103]

@@iliyadavoodipour6366 those are other good options, but I would rather but from a local bike shop because all the bike shops in my area give free tune ups for a year, plus I know that the bikes have been properly assembled.

[@wobllle6526]

Deore is 10 speed tho

[@downtoridemtb]

Deore is now available all the way up to 12 speed. On the RZ1 it is the 11 speed version.

[@sickmak90]

My 2020 Fathom had SX and it’s utter shit. My 2021 fathom has deore and so far it’s much better.

[@downtoridemtb]

Yep I’ve swapped mine out for the MicroShift Advent X.

[@kenzohkw]

SRAM SX is utter crap, all i hear is complaints about it. Plus no one needs 12 speeds on a value trail bike. 10 or 11 speed Shimano is all you need.

[@downtoridemtb]

Yep, I’d be perfectly happy with an 11-46t 10 speed or 11 speed.

[@trailladymtb7700]

😎RZ2 better!