3 Problems in Super Mario 3D All Stars that May Need Patching (Sunshine)

[@SwankyBox]

What has your experience been like so far with 3D All Stars? Run into any weird issues yourself?

[@asra-5180]

Your video title has an issue. You may want to proofread it.

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Ok

[@Cliffordlonghead]

@@asra-5180 HAY YOU STOLE MY FIRST CHEATER

[@Cliffordlonghead]

@@asra-5180 SHAME ON YOU

[@Cliffordlonghead]

@@asra-5180 SHAME ON YOU

[@kaiser9321]

Don’t worry guys, they’ll patch it on March 31st.

[@loloshua]

Literally

[@devantails6818]

Hopefully they'll do that.

[@opfryingpan9770]

@@devantails6818 March 31st is when 3D Allstars will no longer be available.

[@Mickeyink]

I hope cause i have this game but i know about these problems

[@cliffturbo2146]

Yeah. Patch its existence away.

[@Charriii5]

I... I totally forgot that those Data Blocks weren't supposed to be there. The last time I played Sunshine before 3D All-Stars was on Dolphin and the last time before that was well over 10 years ago on console. So I just thought, "Yeah, that makes sense." Also, check out Zardy's Maze; people who love a challenge will love this game!

[@harrypettit0]

Hi Charriii5

[@viruzangel]

yo charriii

[@mewtwoish4673]

Charriii5 u didn’t get liked by swanky. Your friend did u wrong

[@GatorOne-in7hk]

Nice Halloween profile, Charriii.

[@blueknight4274]

So...... everyone is gonna change their profile pics?

[@thatonepali0]

"This is 3 great games, not a great collection of 3 games" - Some guy on the internet

[@The_Holy_Wooomy]

I thought of it as a collection of 3 fantastic games, not a fantastic collection of 3 games. I apparently heard days later that someone on Twitter said something similar and everyone credits them. Oh well

[@orbsorbs8465]

True

[@armygamelover]

Sounds like Scott the Woz. Definitely possible that it isn't though

[@thatonepali0]

@@FanofGuardianTales I found a comment on KZbin referencing this post. Not sure who originally said this, though.

[@TheRealRidley12]

Truer words have never been spoken, lol.

[@gaminghashbrown6083]

"Press *the button* to refill the F.L.U.D.D." I was actually lost on what button that was for the first hour since they changed that line

[@TCCO]

Oh hey nice that's my tweet at 1:57 The game files also reference VR Pikmin, but nobody seems to be talking about it

[@polloswagger5127]

Oh hello TCCO i love your video

[@meta9492]

Did you just say VR PIKMIN!? That seems like the best thing ever if it’s real

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Hi

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Never thought saw you here So When are you doing TCCO Sonic 2?

[@loganwhatnot3698]

Hold on picmin in VR?! I gotta check your channel for this now

[@superluigi018]

I was playing through the first mission of Bianco Hills and realized that if I stood on the rope by the bridge I could jump up to the Windmill. The Pianta there remarked about me being there early and asked if I had something else to do first. I then proceeded to get the Shine for "Down with Petey Pirahna" in the mission "Road to the Big Windmill". I just wish Mario Sunshine let you do more Shines out of order if it's clearly possible, like how the red coins only appear in the red coin mission or how the secret stages are locked off unless you select that mission.

[@librtyordeath1214]

Vincent Carver yes. I liked how Mario 64 let you do things out of order. In Sunshine, you HAVE to do the shines in order and if you get particularly frustrated with a mission, your progress is stalled out on that level .

[@TheSorrel]

@@librtyordeath1214 Yeah, but you have to do the mission anyway. Do the first 7 Missions of each stage and you're done, no need to do the other ones, unless you really want to.

[@gamecubeguy01]

The durians are bugged out in 3D All Stars. Mario kicks them at full speed at all times, even if you walk slowly into one. That made the already challenging blue coin in Delfino Plaza, even more challenging!

[@Radiosilenced]

Getting the Yoshi on the docks was a pain too

[@Venemofthe888]

Resetting the level works but i found it out when doing the game 100%. It does feel like this version on sunshine has more problems than the gamecube one

[@eviltables8510]

I did not have any problems with the durians

[@filipisotter5114]

I didnt have any problems with the durians

[@itsd2003]

I had the same problem, this was my first time playing/ 100%(ing) mario sunshine and i thought it was fun but stupidly hard at times to the point where it isnt a challenge but more of a chore, like "oh cool only 3 stars left those will be a fun little adventure to get! Now lets see one of them you get by riding boats with yoshi..." yeah the poison water mini game alone almost ended that completionist run

[@Genya2008]

There is another big problem in Sunshine. When you got hit you often fly a bit away wich is normal but if you get hit again and again you have no longer control and can fall out from stage or get hit till you no longer have health left. That´s an problem i don´t remember from the Cube Version where i beat Bowser right by the first try but on switch i even got an game over because of that and i had over 10 lives at that point. And i lost because of those control errors not only there many lives on many levels those control errors nearly kills the fun of playing the game. On Super Mario 64 i havn´t found such problems and in Galaxy is the same there is only the control sometimes a bit strange by the changes of gravity but that was also in the Wii Version. So yes most patches has to come for Sunshine.

[@SPZ-gv2on]

So that's what happened to me! I have played sunshine 20+ times and never died to bowser until allstars where I died twice. It felt like I had no control after being hit.

[@Genya2008]

@@SPZ-gv2on Yes that´s the problem it´s like they ported an early beta to the Switch instead of the completed game.

[@Mqstodon]

That was in the original game too clearly. The games are emulated, so the problems were in the original games too

[@Genya2008]

@@Mqstodon They are made with improved graphics and such things so they are a port and not an emulation. In a port can new bugs and such things appear that hasn't been in the original version. So no it isn't clear that they are in the original.

[@sonic_jukebox]

@@Genya2008 they are emulation. Just because they have improved graphics doesn't mean they aren't. If they were ports mario 64 would be widescreen. They can also adjust stuff like the camera and still run it through an emulator. It's not only easier but it also cost them less to emulate the games so they did it.

[@justadragonnamemarcus1751]

They just emulated the game And selling it limited time with high price *WTH NINTENDO?*

[@asra-5180]

It sold. Soooo... they only give a fuck about money.

[@therealmariofan]

@Cyber Console wolf But they are using the roms legally.

[@xerzy]

@Cyber Console wolf no one at Nintendo said there was any problem with them doing it, and at least I guess they did make their own

[@Feethoven]

You forgot to mention the hours of pain staking labor they did to upscale some textures! Definitely a collection worth $60 and not the more reasonable 40-50

[@firecreeper2249]

backward logic: what they are mad at is people playing their game without paying, they don't care if you emulate a rom or put it on your actual console, they're only asking that you pay for their game and nintendo were one of firsts to use emulator, remember the virtual console on the wii?

[@OrbisAetherum]

Never forget that corporations are not your friend, Nintendo included.

[@jaborsey_joseph]

But at least Nintendo can be more genuine about things Edit: Jesus this got a lot of comments, did anybody not pay attention to the point I said *CAN* , I know Nintendo isn't perfect, no company is. I'm just saying they aren't always after your wallet, there are exceptions but it's not all the time and it's not always extremely blatant. Can't say the same about recently cuz they've been pretty bad but still.

[@victorford5047]

@@jaborsey_joseph Not really, they can be more stingy.

[@VerbDoesStuff]

Sir JJ No, the artists are genuine but the executives are money-hungry

[@victorford5047]

@@jaborsey_joseph You're not paying attention to Nintendo, are you? They're basically acting like EA or Activision. Have you seen Mario Kart Tour?

[@cathacker13]

Wendys' twitter is trying to convince me otherwise ...failing miserably

[@jafe860]

I’ve gotta be honest, I’m almost 18 and I’ve never played super Mario sunshine before. Playing it for the first time on the switch has actually been really fun. I didn’t know a lot to the game prior, so learning the mechanics and levels has been a blast. I actually really enjoy super Mario sunshine, and from the stance of a new player, I have never noticed these bugs.

[@jumponeverything]

Nice to see someone appreciating sunshine and not hating on it pretty unfairly like a lot of people

[@Cheerybelle]

I'm in the same boat: first time with Sunshine, not knowing of any problems in emulation. I 100%'d the game over a few days, with occasional help from a guide later on to mop up the last of what I was missing. It may be kinda lacking in polish, and I understand why the game is pretty divisive, but I don't regret my time with the game. ☺️

[@PeaceBeTheJourney.]

Do you not find the controls too sensitive, as in the 1st half of analogue range gives full run?

[@nicosalsa21]

Yeah that’s the same with me, sunshine has been really fun too

[@gubbins4944]

Bunneer he isn’t talking about the full collection mate he’s only talking about Mario sunshine

[@gabexdragon1418]

I'm not gonna lie i get that the grey boxes aren't supposed to be there but damn im kinda happy they are because those stages are the worst and seeing the path just helps

[@AxeCatcher]

I owned the gamecube version of sunshine but NEVER realised the Gray cubes shouldn't be there, they feel like they fit since they show hoe the platforms will move

[@CrimboCombo]

I actually watched a stream of All-Stars Sunshine a few days ago and when the streamer did the first mission of Bianco Hills, the level loaded the Petey Piranha mission instead, but the little preview of the level still loaded like it was Mission 1 so Shadow Mario was just standing in the hill. Idk if thats a new thing or if its been around but I found it so bizarre.

[@Mmmeeee4]

Who was the streamer?

[@CrimboCombo]

@@Mmmeeee4 Small guy called EsperoPlays on Twitch, should be the first Sunshine stream vod

[@jaborsey_joseph]

I personally don't have a problem with the collection, as a person who's never been able to play Sunshine, I'm glad I now can legitimately

[@RoboIsCool]

Smithy Chris no you couldn’t sunshine is $60 and then you have to take in the cost of a GameCube also

[@es5845]

if you watched the video Sunshine in the collection is as legitimate as playing on an old unpatched emulator.

[@farisakhtar4824]

@Smithy Chris I don't see the point really. The switch version will be in HD and portable. You also get two other great games, which are definitely worth playing if you haven't already. And if the price really bothers you you can sell the game second hand and make some money back. So technically I could pay less than what you did if I sell later, and have the other benefits I mentioned.

[@polnajeff]

The 4th problem that needs patching: Not adding Mario galaxy 2..

[@Matanumi]

The biggest problem with this game...it'd he worth the full price if galaxy 2 was included

[@gubbins4944]

What? The reason they made the collection is so people can play the old Mario’s that a lot of people didn’t play, WAY more people had super Mario galaxy 2 so they added galaxy 1 because not as many people had it.

[@Goddot]

replaying Mario Galaxy II I honestly understand this decision better, that game is fantastic if you're into senseless challenge and time limits everywhere. It's much less immersive than the first one, and it's a lot more hit and miss. At times it's the best experience I ever had, at others I turn away in disgust.

[@gubbins4944]

Johann Karpp Mario galaxy is way too straight forward. Other Mario’s just tell you to go and figure it out yourself which I like more

[@jbsnowball]

Polnameth Agreed. Galaxy 2 even runs on the same engine as Galaxy 1, so it would’ve been very easy to bring over, but they didn’t, because they were lazy.

[@nerbyteetops4035]

Sunshine is a great game, but the 3d allstars handles like hot garbage. SMG was a delight and felt like this was how it was supposed to have been. But sunshine handles so badly, that I dare not play it lest it be on Ye Olde Cube of Game

[@cin2110]

I’ve seen galaxy it has a lot of graphical bugs especially with reflections this is a lazy emulation job and yup galaxy isn’t a port either it’s half emulated half port

[@GatorOne-in7hk]

@@cin2110 What the heck are you talking about? Galaxy is near flawless. The only problems I encountered are ones from the original game. It looks great, there’s no drops in frame rate.

[@jenkem69]

It handles just fine! You must be one of those “omg i need my inverted controls” lmao

[@GatorOne-in7hk]

@@jenkem69 The changes to Sunshine’s controls are bad because of inconsistency amongst the collection. They removed the inversion from Sunshine but kept it in 64?? That’s so confusing! Why change Sunshine in the first place if it’s not universal?!

[@jenkem69]

Brady Marchant who really cares thats such a petty thing to be upset about lol it plays just fine i have had zero problem and i use to be trash playing this game on gamecube now its just fine so that says enough lol

[@CometCatcher]

I encountered a strange bug in the first mission of Bianco Hills when starting up this game. The hill that’s supposed to rise when you defeat the Polluted Piranha was already raised and I couldn’t defeat the Piranha even though he was still there. I had to exit the level and renter to fix it. Has anyone else experienced this strange anomaly or is it just me?

[@uplaysucks5625]

Just you

[@5onik101]

This happened to me as well and this never happened to me on the Gamecube back in the day

[@orbsorbs8465]

SleekGoose I think you overreacted a bit there lmao

[@Cheerybelle]

I personally didn't experience any bug of that caliber while 100%ing the game. ...Just putting my experience forth as data for the query.

[@garvensman]

I didn’t have any issues with the game, and I completed it 100%

[@Bludkon]

Nintendo "We hate emulators and any of our games being used by emulators" Also Nintendo " We gon use the emulators for our games and try to pass it off as us doing remastered versions just for the switch"

[@zoemare1014]

The strange thing I've noticed is that shadow mario when chasing him normally he is supposed to stop and paint the ground now he just stands there do nothing and move again

[@sonsesshomaru]

Mine doesn’t do that 😂, that’s a bug I’ve never witnessed even on the game cube, guess the emulated version introduced some new ones

[@AppleCherry108]

I’ve done nothing but play Sunshine since All Stars came out, and I never noticed anything, at least not anything game breaking. I clipped through the ground once, but it was on those damn steps in the amphitheater, and I was nosediving into a watermelon repeatedly, so I didn’t think much of it lmao. I also totally forgot the little grey blocks aren’t meant to be visible, but I kinda dig them-they make those frustrating levels a little less terrible when you can see the tracks certain objects move on.

[@thevenom2731]

I honestly did not know those data cubes were not visible in the original game. It's been so long. It doesn't bother me either way, in fact they helped me a lot.

[@covlf1999]

Zardy's Maze is awesome! Swanky this game is probably my favorite game by a KZbinr .

[@ErickHatesBMC]

*by a youtuber*

[@adambarbosa4179]

Boneworks and Duck season were made by the youtubers Node both very great games too you should check them out

[@misterzygarde6431]

They also should’ve either put in Super Mario Galaxy 2 or Super Mario 64 DS and 3D Land.

[@jruler93]

Yeah, Galaxy 2 would've been a great addition to make it an even collection of four.

[@booberfraggle]

I really wish they had used the DS version

[@javierquevedod.8240]

@@FanofGuardianTales They didn't even mention it in the Mario history part of the direct alongside Super Mario Land 2

[@thatonepali0]

The thing is, if they added those games, the bugs in the games would be understandable, and so would the $60 price tag.

[@NickFamzi]

Yup true!

[@FlergerBergitydersh]

I find the presence of these bugs ironic, because as far as I can tell, Sunshine had the most remastering put into it graphically. I should point out that the reason the map slowdown is present, despite being well documented emulation issues, is probably that it look entirely intentional, much like the debug blocks. It is entirely natural for different parts of a game, and even different things on the same screen, to run at different framerates, and the map transition, while slow, does not hitch at all. If you didn't know any better, you'd assume that it was supposed to look like that. The programmers wouldn't know that the bug was happening, because they don't test the game, the testers do. And to a tester it would look normal, so a bug report would never be filed, it's as simple as that. It doesn't matter how "well documented" the emulation issues are; these people are paid to do these two things, and they clearly didn't have time to look through the entire history of Dolphin development in order to see if these were issues. Hell, it doesn't seem like they had much time to make this collection at all. I haven't experienced much slowdown, just a tiny bit while walking around the plaza. I should point out that the slowdown occured, and intensified, after having the game on for a very long time, so I'm guessing a memory leak or something like that is causing it. Such a leak would also cause the crashes that some people have experienced. I would suggest closing and reopening the collection after playing the game for a while.

[@marcar9marcar972]

Flerger Bergitydersh yeah also why would they read the documentation for a different emulator? Why don’t they read the documentation for the PS5 while they’re at it

[@otaking3582]

I've read that a lot of Sunshine's bugs are due to the fact that they pulled a PlayStation Mini and are using the PAL ROM, albeit modified to run at 60 hz.

[@Omnishredder]

Wrong, GameCube was out at a time where region was just that, a region, there's no difference between pal and NTSC-u/j because TV's was sold with 60hz step up technology that is now industry standard for pal region TV's, and was so prior to the GameCubes release, it wasn't stated that, but it is exactly the case, so they couldn't do a PlayStation mini since it existed at a time after region speeds was uniformed, 50hz is just clock speed, just means there's 20% more loading

[@marcar9marcar972]

Otaking Mikohani eh I doubt it

[@TheLegoNation]

With the new update that was just release they fixed a lot if not all of these bugs that were present

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Have you tested the Shine in the video?

[@OctagonalSquare]

Since it hadnt been confirmed to be emulation when the game came out, I got to Bianco 3 and was like “yep”. They threw me for a loop the first time I played on an emulator because I was like, “were those there before?”

[@sparky6757]

I’ve been thoroughly enjoying the collection. I hadn’t played 64 or Galaxy in about a decade and never played Sunshine, so nothing really stands out as different from the originals - I just know that they look good and play well, other than 64 which is too outdated to be anything more than a nostalgia trip.

[@FreDEV_OFFICIAL]

I read that people having slow down issues were because they had hacked switches. When you update your switch to the latest firmware it also installs a JIT module that is needed for emulation. I have had 0 slow downs, so that is possibly the cause of the problems. I did actually also read that the JIT module got patched into the new CFW release, so it should be fixed now

[@SPZ-gv2on]

Nope. I have a clean switch with still lots of random lag. Old glitches and bugs that can be used to create lag cause much less lag than the original but some random pieces of collision and certain random camera angles causes massive slowdown.

[@FreDEV_OFFICIAL]

@@SPZ-gv2on yeah, i imagine the emulation not being perfect. then again my comment was based on something i have read from someone else, i believe Nintendo Prime also did a video on it. i would recommend checking it out.

[@ganondalf8090]

nope. I have a clean rev0 switch on 10.2, and it chuggs a lot with the menu.

[@FreDEV_OFFICIAL]

for everyone having problems i would recommend taking quick look in the settings to make sure your switch FW version is 10.2.0! this FW update installed the JIT module. i hope this helps :)

[@marcar9marcar972]

carl wheezer I think the guy is saying you need to update it.

[@lachlanmadden2185]

Ive noticed with Super Mario 64 the low poly model of Mario pops in and out quite often

[@yoshibeara3446]

Even though the glitches in it aren't so bad it just makes me sad that they ported over the shindou version because bowser isn't gay

[@jaredballoonboy7944]

Mario doesn’t actually say “gay.” You do know that, right?

[@AmalGum001]

Balloon Boy Oh dear. You take things to seriously

[@yoshibeara3446]

@@AmalGum001 Don't pay attention to him he is trying to distract you

[@marcar9marcar972]

Tyler Harper yeah I know. I want to see Bowser zsuffer

[@Biologicalerror]

Bye bi

[@Wiimeiser]

Accurate emulation requires a lot of resources. With BSNES/Higan, the less accurate performance versions still experience the seizure flashing in Tetris Attack. Even my fairly recent PC gets lag spikes in Dolphin. This is why opening the map causes issues: It screenshots, splits the screenshot, and performs a very resource intensive effect. And in my opinion Bianco 6 is more fair with the debug cubes visible.

[@marcar9marcar972]

Wiimeiser this

[@TopTierGames]

I really want to know how many man hours were actually spend working on this game. And I will have to check your game out Swanky.

[@uniqhnd23]

Less than the amount of time it will be available for.

[@UltraHylia]

ORO 0147 Oh, that's without a doubt.

[@astralstorm8859]

ORO 0147 Oof

[@TopTierGames]

I just can’t shake the feeling a group of amateur devs could have slapped together something better.

[@user-mi4kg4jl3f]

@@TopTierGames Mario 64 PC port (plus SGI mod) would like to say hi! And HD texture packs for Sunshine and Galaxy on Dolphin. So yeah, amateur game developers could 100% make a better collection then Nintendo...

[@calebbowsman822]

I actually really like the gray boxes in the secret courses, it makes it way easier to tell where the platforms move to so I know where to jump

[@jojojo5872]

I've been enjoying the collection so far

[@elfiebranford9330]

Honestly, my biggest gripe with sunshine is the weird use of the R and ZR buttons to shoot water. Like, I know it can't be patched, and its just how the Switch controllers work, but man it's just so satisfying to play sunshine with that Gamecube R trigger. I guess you never realize how much you miss something until it's gone :/

[@71Ranchero500]

That was my only gripe with it as well. You kinda can get used to it on the Switch, but I agree. The GameCube trigger control was the best for Sunshine.

[@elfiebranford9330]

@@71Ranchero500 Yea, you do get used to it, but for me, it's pretty much a knee jerk reaction. It's especially difficult for be when using Joycons since the L & R Buttons are less prominent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe using a Gamecube controller (either plugged in through an adapter or a replica wireless) allows you to play it more normally,

[@71Ranchero500]

Elfie Branford I haven’t tried using a GameCube controller, so I’m not sure if that would remedy it. I agree with you though.

[@ChristopherMoom]

Oh, don't worry about any of these bugs, Nintendo said they'll start working on fixing them sometime after March 2021! Wait...

[@Thevidgame]

Right...

[@a.kzockt4546]

I have never enjoyed a switch game as much as this one before! It has been 7 years since I played sunshine and playing ot to 100% after 4 days was ALOT of fun. Even galaxy brings back soooo many great memories. The 3d Collection is the only game that made me cry tears of happiness after starting it up. It may be rushed, but that is a fact that I may overlook

[@deykuzor]

Im glad the collection exists even if it's not perfect.

[@onometre]

I agree with the consensus that it's kind of a lazy pack, but honestly all I wanted was to play these games on the go and that's what I got

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

Feels like that just enables more lazy and imperfect products. I mean i got to play it when I was on the road last month which was cool but it wasn’t exactly comfortable or fun to play.

[@SamRegan610]

I loved 3D All-Stars! I got all 120 stars in Galaxy and I just got my 120th shine in Sunshine today, but I dunno, something about 64's controls just doesn't work for me. I guess I've seen so many people play it well and I already know the game like the back of my hand, that I just couldn't get used to the controls and it made me lose interest. Sunshine and Galaxy are amazing though and any bugginess doesn't really bother me, I find it funny

[@yobobby9]

In sunshine and 64 the lack of optimization for the control stick is the issue. The 64 and gamecube controller had gates on the analog sticks, 64 was an octogon, and gcn was a hexagon. The devs for the collection didnt account for the circle gate on the switch controllers, leading mario to accelerate early than he should be when tilting in a direction, or some directions being inaccurate, and the stick being in places were it shouldn't be originally. Both of this games have fixes for this made by community, xbox 360 controller mods that fix it. Nintendo sadly didnt notice when play testing. Since the 64 stick is an octogon its worst than sunshine since more gates.

[@majorpeepo]

Honestly I'm happy with Mario sunshine not being touched I'm having a blast playing my childhood

[@Echidneys]

mY cHiLdHOod

[@marcar9marcar972]

Echi yeah his childhood, sure it’s shared but that doesn’t make it any less valid

[@xelaranger3880]

That first bug is actually helpful because it shows you the track of the floating platform, kind of reminds me of the floating blocks from SMW. I did run into 1 bug where I clipped through the floor of delfino plaza. By the lady pina that gives you a blue coin for 3 pineapples with the basket that is suspended on the wall near the BIG shine. There is a box there right on the platform right next to the water in the center of town. I was messing around spin jumping and turn around jumping and I ended up glitching into the wall and fell down beneath the sewers and hit the death barrier. I always enjoy your content, thanks swankybox for the vid.

[@jpramsey2873]

I absolutely love it, I get to replay sunshine, and i never beat 64 or Galaxy. I only hate that it's available until March.

[@vanthefurry]

I like the collection and all the bugs that you mentioned it wouldn't even harm the game like that first one with the dots I thought it was useful

[@kingangelo3838]

Being “rushed” implies they tried. This collection is deliberately made lazily for a quick buck.

[@cjaawesome616]

Wow how do you know they didn't try? Does you uncle work at nintendo?

[@JugularJohn]

Or giving Mario 64 an actual good camera, or fixing many broken glitches sunshine had, or at least updating the graphics a bit (sure ok they updated the UI, and the graphics are supposed to look the same for the exact same charm years ago, but at least y’all could try.

[@cjaawesome616]

​@Griseus Lupus circumstantial evidence at best.

[@cjaawesome616]

Not saying they didn't or did try just saying you can't say you know they didn't try because you don't

[@cjaawesome616]

not defending or detracting nintendo but I just think the lack of content was due to the the game not having a normal development cycle due to the current pandemic and the set release time being in september.

[@cecillewolters1995]

Do you know how to kill the piano in Big Boo's Haunt? It was said in a magazine that it should be possible.

[@marcar9marcar972]

Mathinus Wolters XD

[@theleft-handedartist2754]

Nintendo could have just recompiled the game for the console.

[@marshmllodragon]

I was really excited to hear that you had made a game, so I downloaded it to play on my Halloween Stream-A-Thon! I can't wait to play it! Also I am stoked for 3D all stars, because I never got to play Mario Galaxy, so I might play it blind on stream too! Crossing my fingers that it doesn't have too many issues due to the emulation!

[@kobizarre2003]

Honestly, I've had a great time with it.

[@imspecial5503]

Same

[@cjdubzs]

I’ve only had trouble with sunshine

[@cjdubzs]

the no name person yeah I’m still getting use to it’s controls

[@merickbrother2122]

A few audio issues in Sunshine for me, but I think the collection has been a lot of fun

[@edgelord8337]

The 4th problem in super Mario 3d all stars that needs to be patched *The removal of the so long gae bowser quote*

[@edgelord8337]

@@FanofGuardianTales understood my friend. I also think writing gae browser makes it look funnier even though it's gay bowser.

[@luckysix1015]

It’s suppose to be So long-a Bowser but everyone just had to be immature

[@edgelord8337]

@@luckysix1015 wow that one person that can't take a joke.

[@donkeycheese8098]

@@th3_ne0__ I thought it was cause they used a edited Version on the Shindou edition which was basically and revision of the Japanese Sm64

[@alistair4909]

Donkey Cheese yeah it’s using the better shindo version which fixes some of the bugs in the og release. It’s also a version we never got in the west until now essentially making it an inclusion of lost content. As much as I find this collection disappointing I do hope they’ll continue to include lost and region exclusive content in future collections. I also hope future collections have more content and/or better quality...

[@TomOblocki]

Imagine bringing back a GameCube game on the switch then not letting people use a GameCube controller for it

[@They_are_Arthur]

3D All Stars was the first time I played Sunshine, so a lot of these issues never bothered me. It especially never crossed my mind that those squares in that secret area were not supposed to be there.

[@Prs722]

Dont forget the delay when using FLUDD. The GameCube version had virtually no delay when pushing R while the switch version is given a second of delay likely to simulate the transition between the the GameCube's analog R to its full button R. This change makes underwater levels a nightmare as it delays movement while Mario is limited by his supply of oxygen.

[@spadezap9728]

I’ve been playing 64 and the camera is horrendous! The exclusion of widescreen and 60 FPS is annoying and it is the most frustrating Mario game I’ve played. I remember really liking 64 ds, but the original is just ok. If Nintendo actually put effort into these ports I would probably like the game more. I have 108 stars and almost done, so I’ll be seeing how good/bad sunshine is next.

[@brad6546]

The camera sucked in the 64 version too

[@spadezap9728]

@@brad6546 that's what i was saying not the ds version

[@gapedandamazed6988]

I actually love the debug cubes. Helped me alot with knowing where the platform will end up Also 3:53? I successfully did that glitch when i sprayed the most right part just a tinni tiny bit. Then talked to the pianta. I was shocked asf

[@TheLegoNation]

The menu lag doesn’t lag when your in the secret stages at least for me

[@jajathenewking6131]

One glitch in sunshine that I hate was in piñata village were in the bridge if you dive just right you clip in and when doing 100 coin shine you can understand that it sucks to die at 70 coins.

[@JFGermann]

Just finished Mario 64's 120 Star, nothing to complain so far.

[@Cyrus_got_verified]

But Mario 64 isn’t full screen and the jump sound is changed

[@BabyYoda-jp2ov]

@@Cyrus_got_verified who cares

[@wrongrabbit]

So long, gay Bowser...

[@onninno8028]

I have like 44 stars and have completed the other 2 games

[@meteor9099]

i got all 120 in galaxy no problems

[@blainetate743]

In all honesty, I liked those cubes. They showed where each panel would go, and it made my time there much less frustrating than it could have been.

[@emidemi7211]

The only issue I've run into so far is Sunshine's controls. Yikes.

[@lffronkanimation4743]

Delfina Studios What do you mean lol

[@emidemi7211]

@@lffronkanimation4743 I mean Mario literally isn't fun to control in Sunshine.

[@TheGalaxyWings]

It was 64's camera to me

[@orbsorbs8465]

I haven’t had a problem with them, I actually like them more than 64’s and a little bit more than galaxy

[@marcar9marcar972]

Delfina Studios I mean if that’s the only issues it’s not the end of the world. Kingdom Hearts had the same issue

[@soundoff6937]

I probably won’t play Zardy’s Maze because I don’t like playing horror games, but honestly it looks sick, and I wanna say congrats on releasing it!

[@Mark---W]

There are three issues that has to do with this Collection. The fact that it's the bare MINIMUM they put in this game. They charge $60 and not making them all 60 fps, 1080, wide-screen. The worst has yet to come that it will be EXTINCT in less than 5 months, also applies to the Digital version as well. You will have no choice but to deal with the Scalpers.

[@bakedbeans9392]

the debug cubes helped a lot when I was doing the mission for the first time, so I was quite surprised to learn they weren't supposed to be there

[@cjac2844]

One thing I ran into while playing the game is sometimes Mario just runs around in circles in SMG.

[@gnarly.bulblax]

That’s because of the gravity

[@cjac2844]

@@gnarly.bulblax that never happened on the Wii version though

[@orbsorbs8465]

Oh thank god that’s not just me, it happens all the time

[@villageronps5317]

This keeps happening too me as well. It’s almost killed me a few times.

[@liwo8998]

joycon drift

[@robertrussell2585]

I kinda liked the gray boxes, it helps me figure out the path of moving platforms quickly and I’m able the predict their movement better

[@supermario_49]

I got that Sirena Beach error by accident. I was like “I’m done?? There’s still a mess all over though...”

[@librtyordeath1214]

SuperMario49 Gaming I was done in like 10 seconds. And, I was confused but happy😂. I haven’t been able to replicate it, though.

[@seekingfreedom9020]

I have been thoroughly enjoying all these games again

[@walkwe1737]

I love this collection, and dispite the glitches, it is still what they intended to be

[@TheScienceguy77]

A cash grab.

[@marcar9marcar972]

Cowboy Dan you’re not helping your view. You’re only driving people away.

[@losermonkey666]

I think they spent more time trying to stop us from loading different roms than trying to make the emulator run normally.

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

sometimes i feel like im the only person who prefers mario saying “bye-bye” over the original he sounds so smug doing it and probably had a goofy look on his face while saying it

[@RaphBlade7]

To be honest, I just started playing Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine in the Switch collection, as I mainly got it so I could finally play Super Mario Galaxy as its one of the few 3D Mario titles I never played back when it was originally released (currently the only other one that I haven't play is its sequel). I haven't really had any issues, though I did notice an odd arrow during one of the Secret levels, as I hadn't played Super Mario Sunshine in years so I never really noticed the cubes weren't a thing in the original GameCube version. Though to be honest, I probably would have just assumed it was added to make it easier for casual players to recognize the routes for moving platforms, rather than a problem with the emulation. Also haven't really noticed anything wrong with the heat effect, though then again I've been playing it exclusively on the Switch screen rather than my television as my TV only has two HDMI channels and HDMI2 is hook up to my PS4, while HDMI1 is hooked up to the DirectTV, so I just play Switch games on its screen rather than bothering to unplug the PS4. I'd imagine they have cables and such that would allow me to hook both up to HDMI2 and just switch between them, but to be honest ever since I found out how to charge the Switch with the cable rather than the stand, I kinda prefer playing games on the Switch's screen as I'm a little old school, so I don't really care about HD quality. I'm also not really bothered by the Map menu lag. So if you want the heatwave to work as intended, I'd suggest going old school playing it on the Switch Screen (reminds me of my old GameCube peripheral that was a small TV screen that attached neatly to the GameCube system which made it great for when I lived in the dorms at a vocational school I went to years back as I wouldn't need separate television to play it on).

[@rawkinghorse]

Imagine all these people complaining about the title when they hear that Pittsburgh exists

[@purplegill10]

What do you mean?

[@Willowposting]

Only real Pittsburgh people understand this joke

[@TheRealRidley12]

Pittsburgh Steelers?

[@omegawario7479]

I live right outside of Pittsburgh and I still don’t get it

[@marcar9marcar972]

rawkinghorse are you suggesting Nintendo is stealing because they’re not

[@ambientcoot8715]

Honestly the game is fun, I hope they fix some stuff with it. Would like to see something similiar with some of the games from Legend of Zelda, like possibly a 3 game pack including Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask, and maybe Wind Waker.

[@marcar9marcar972]

AmbientCoot87 that could be cool

[@yobobby9]

They would probably chop majoras mask for oot, ww, and tp

[@ambientcoot8715]

@@yobobby9 Still not bad. TP is a really good game.

[@Hynotama]

EA forgets to change some low rez textures on a stadium, in an area where players don't generally look, and the internet has a meltdown. Nintendo neglects bugs that have been solved by the community years ago and even introduces other bugs and all the fanboys (such as NintendoPrime) come out of the woodwork to defend this cash grab. This collection is an embarrassment.

[@marcar9marcar972]

Has the three best Mario games of all time and people really seem to like it including the guy who’s video you’re watching. ThIs CoLlEcTiOn Is An EmBaRiSmEnT People wouldn’t come out of the woodwork to defend it if you guys were actually fair with the game or your criticism. It’s one thing to criticize the collection for flaws but calling a game an embarrassment is not only false but you’re doing your side no favors.

[@Hynotama]

@@marcar9marcar972 1. I said the collection is an embarrassment, not the game themselves. 2. Wanna discuss flaws? They left bugs in the emulators, that the community solved years ago. They fixed NOTHING in the original games. They couldn't even be bothered to make Mario 64 in widescreen, but they sure put a lot of effort to shut down the beautiful and improved PC port that the fans have made without access to the source code. They slap together 3 roms and sell it at 60 bucks for a limited time. Meanwhile even f**king Activision put in more effort into their remakes and sold them cheaper. Sure this collection wasn't made to be a remake, but the effort should reflect the price. The effort is minimal and the price is 50% higher. Yes, I know these individual games are more expensive on Ebay, but Nintendo competes with other companies, not the second hand scalpers, who are only selling these games so expensive because of Nintendo's incompetence. And don't even think of arguing that Mario is a bigger IP because that just makes he lack of respect for this release even worse. And yes, I enjoy these games (well actually I don't, but others do and that's fair), but that doesn't mean Nintendo should get away with this behavior. Just because someone enjoys a product, doesn't make that product exempt from criticism.

[@steelraids]

Hey the debug cubes make it easier to spot where the platforms are goin😂

[@marcar9marcar972]

SteelRaids honestly probably why they were left in. Even if it wasn’t intentional it probably got past playtest because it looks right

[@GaminGlaceon3707]

My thoughts on 3D Allstars- 64- awful and feels way to slow, long jumping is weird and I feel like back flipping is harder. Sunshine- honestly beautiful, better than the GC version in my opinion, easier to control, just SO NICE! Galaxy- pressing Y I feel is slightly delayed and makes BSJ harder to do.

[@NarutoUzumaki-kp5dv]

sell it if u don’t like it lol

[@GaminGlaceon3707]

Dead Meme of course I won’t - the main reason I even got it was because it is exclusive, and even if it wasn’t I would have bought it anyway because it is Nintendo.

[@marcar9marcar972]

GaminGlaceon3707 I mean if you knew you were going to hate the game why did you buy it? I won’t ask but if you buy something you know you’re going to hate don’t go around complaining about it and definitely don’t expect pity

[@GaminGlaceon3707]

Marcar9 Marcar9 I knew it wouldn’t be that good, I’m still happy I got it because I play AND collect games, so I had to get the game anyway, but don’t get me wrong - I still LIKE the port (but I like every Paper Mario, so take that with a grain of salt).

[@MauriceGS]

Problem 4: No proper GCN Controller Support

[@VestedUTuber]

It doesn't seem odd to me that Nintendo didn't check the Dolphin documentation at all. The only business that company is even willing to have with the Dolphin devs is finding a way to somehow shut them down. (They can't, because Dolphin doesn't use any code from the Gamecube BIOS itself and only emulates the hardware and API pointers.)

[@marcar9marcar972]

VestedUTuber yeah. I mean it’d be like Apple reading Microsoft’s documentation

[@VestedUTuber]

@@marcar9marcar972 More like Microsoft reading ReactOS's documentation than anything.

[@kyethememer9836]

These problems dont bother me, I'm just happy to finally play the game.

[@pebblesoupp]

I'm not sure if anyone has had this, but at the beginning of the game when you enter Bianco Hills for the first time, I started the first episode. (In this one, you have to kill the weird paint piranha plant, once you kill it, it reveals the hill along with a shine.) When I started this episode, The piranha plant was there but covered by the hill that is suppose to appear afterward. I couldn't kill the piranha plant since the hill was over it, so I was forced to kill Peter Piranha as my "first shine".

[@PhillyCh3zSt3ak]

While the games themselves are great, it's a rush job and you can tell. If you want me shelling out $60 you better not be giving me something that I can play for free on my gaming rig for the low price of free and just giving it a new package. That's what it feels like. You're basically getting a Linux distro version of Dolphin/Project64 and slightly updated ROMs but paying for artwork and a main menu splash page. Nintendo, I know you have the funding to make a proper release, we know you can do better on these types of jobs.

[@marcar9marcar972]

PhillyCh3zSt3ak I mean by that logic why buy any games from Nintendo when you can just pirate them all?

[@StarTropicsKing]

Just beat Sunshine on the collection today. I encountered pretty much all of these, some without realizing until I watched this video. The serina beach one was the most surprising to me.

[@vikavolt11]

I'm still wondering why they went with Mario 64 instead of the vastly superior Mario 64 DS

[@MegaNightcore101]

Super Mario 64 Ds was the best. The mini game collection, the multiplayer potential, more playable characters and extra stars were awesome. Plus, I feel like the game would work on one screen if they included it since the bottom screen was mainly a map. Not to mention they could have capitalized on selling more styluses for the Switch if they preserved the DS's touch screen elements of the game. And to reiterate, the multiplayer potential!!! Imagine if they went the distance to make the whole game co-op and not limit it like the original. It'll probably require everyone owning a Switch but that's worth it for proper Co-op play over the "Co-op" in Odyssey. Though at that point I would prefer they make it it's own thing with the proper time and care it deserves rather than putting it in a bundle.

[@kithalie]

A lot of people dont find it superior, and I know a lot of people would be even more angry it that game was put in instead of the original

[@vikavolt11]

@@MegaNightcore101 I was thinking Sort or 'Splode HD but ok

[@farisakhtar4824]

Because it's quite different in many ways, and not the n64 original. Not to mention the fact it was designed for a very small low resolution screen, blowing that up to a TV would require extensive work on the textures and graphics.

[@marcar9marcar972]

Vikavolt because the original is regarded as a classic while many people consider DS to be “trash”. I don’t think it’s trash, I think it’s better than the original (in fact I’m not that crazy about the original) but it’s not an uncommon opinion.

[@InterstellarStarSailor]

I encountered both the debug cubes and the racing Beep. It's been over a decade since I played the original so I just chalked it up to me not remembering them in the original. Now that I know they're bugs, it feels weird.

[@healmore8716]

Everyone knows that the biggest problem with this collection is the fact that they used the shindou version of Mario 64 instead of the original one or at least the DS version

[@punitiveloki]

They used the shindou because it was their latest version of 64 and it patched BLJ, and DS version will not be coming for such a long time, first of all there needs to be 2 screens so the TV/Switch Screen would be cut in half, and even though the models and textures are better, the resolution is really bad for switch

[@trash-lol]

i just thought they were tracks. now everyone is loosing their minds.

[@KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69]

Nintendo patched something all right, they patched Mario Galaxy 2 out of existence.

[@disgusted7187]

For yoshi you need to jump and use the pointer at the same time this would be impossible on the switch handheld mode because you need to use the touch screen for the pointer

[@novustalks7525]

DisgustedProductions no because you can use Y to do that

[@novustalks7525]

Fan of 8 bites so underrated. Really good game

[@novustalks7525]

Fan of 8 bites it was unique and I like the combination of 2D and 3D. I havent played 3D world yet though

[@PIKATHUNDER7]

honestly i just enjoy having all 3 games in one place, because i'd have to set up my wii which has damage so powering it on and off is hard, and my n64 which has broken controllers (joystick doesnt work well)

[@kaithehybridwolf9168]

This collection saves me the trouble of finding the consoles and the games tbh

[@yobobby9]

Just emulate them

[@splattim3180]

typo in the title. get his ass

[@billybobjoe198]

I haven't played sunshine in 19 years. But I assumed those blocks in the secret stage were to show the user where the path went. I didn't realize it was a bug showing the track that's meant to be hidden.

[@Tazerboy_10]

I was really hyped about getting this, but when I heard it was nothing other than emulations and up scaling, that turned me away... - Being released in limited quantity for the physical version... (Seems like something only a collector would want...) - I've played all these games on their respective original consoles and no emulation whatsoever... (No need for me to replay, unless for nostalgic reasons...) - Paying $60 for this collection of these 3 games; I'd rather spend my money on something else than this...

[@SueZQue83]

Y’all should play Zardy’s maze on minus world unless you already have but…

[@blackdot105]

It's sad seeing how bad of a collection this is. Nintendo has had some amazing collections throughout the years and I'm confused as to why this one is so lack luster, especially with its price tag and limited time.

[@eligamerman]

Still love this collection! As for the problems... how about a Super Mario Galaxy 2 update to make up for them :)

[@aahighlights1461]

Never, in a million years, I am buying this. Especially when you have a good enough PC to emulate them yourself.

[@realchris4882]

I disagree, it's legal on The Switch!

[@aahighlights1461]

@@realchris4882 I've already bought and played thoses games in the past, I don't feel bad at all thinking that I'm stealing money from Nintendo when this is clearly a quick cash grab for them.

[@realchris4882]

@@aahighlights1461 its a misconception to believe its legal to download the roms and play them on ur pc when u ow. the titles, which simply isn't the fact, call Nintendo and complain there, fact is, its legal on the switch, and i love the portable aspect of them, and they are great games to be payed for and played otg, respect

[@aahighlights1461]

@@realchris4882 I never said it was legal, I just said that I don't feel bad about it.

[@realchris4882]

@@aahighlights1461 So u don't feel bad about violating copyright infringement. lol hmm okay, to his their own. See ya!

[@ratzzi7301]

Holy Shit! Zardy’s Maze looks sick, thanks dude, keep up the great work!

[@NTSTS0]

Pretty close to unsubscribing at this point. This was a non-video, as was the last one on a similar topic. You take as long as humanly possible to get around to the point you're supposedly discussing, and provide 'information' in as bloated a manner as possible. It shouldn't take seven minutes to deliver information that I could read in a list format in less than ten seconds.

[@James11111]

Well you can go home if you're not having fun...

[@marcar9marcar972]

Fan of 8 bites the idea is that feedback may get the KZbinr to change their ways. People get better usually when they receive feedback. That being said this feedback isn’t very good so I can see why you hate it.