3 RARE & DISTURBING stories that everyone forgot about⚠️

[@mrsary7868]

I have been a woman waking alone in the woods who encountered someone unexpectedly who seemed to be acting strangely. I became very paranoid, began having panic attacks and hid for several hours, even though it was probably nothing. Fear is very powerful, especially when you feel completely helpless and trapped.

[@nataliabusko1432]

As a woman who likes gathering mushrooms (my family members won’t participate unfortunately) I always be in the woods alone when it’s season for mushrooms. Always feel scared, every little noise makes my heart ache.

[@DPM-dp9on]

Stay home.

[@llyn5759]

@@mrsary7868 you may have very well avoided trouble, it's not necessarily true that you were just paranoid. There's a reason why the "freeze" response exists!

[@Wildflowers516]

Better to trust your gut ! Glad you’re ok !

[@honeybadger3570]

I'd have gone bug eyed and started speaking in tongue repeating weird obnoxious chants for rain for my crops of corn 🌽 look around 🌽 can't you see 👀 them? 😂😂😂

[@jessicahannah2522]

I was hiking a common trail with my 7 year old daughter. Just a short day hike on a popular, well-known and well-traveled trail of about three miles round trip. As we were returning, had one of those "suddenly everything went quiet" moments in the woods, the kind that sets you a bit on edge when you realize it. As we came around a short turn in the trail, heavily wooded, there was a man sitting on the side of the trail. Between the silence of the woods and him sitting in an unusual spot, it was red flags flying everywhere. We stopped. He had his pack between his knees and was staring at us intently. He asked: "Aren't you going to ask if I'm okay? I could be hurt." I said nothing. Then I noticed the knife on the ground. He wasn't holding it, it was just sitting there. I quietly turned my daughter around and we started back the way we'd come. He stood up and I was getting scared, really scared. He was in the same spot as we walked semi-quickly back up the way we'd come. About ten minutes later, and a lot of looking back, we came across a trio of male hikers. I approached and asked if we could walk with them back to the parking lot, that we'd had a strange encounter. "Sure, no problem". My daughter and I were a bit behind them, and as we came to the spot where the man had been, he was still there. With his pants off. The men made a huge deal about it, disparaging comments and more. The strange man just stood there, genitalia out. They quickly surrounded my daughter and I and we all started walking a lot faster, with the men yelling at him. When we got to the lot and cell service, they called 911. Things happen on trails, in daylight, to women, all the time. The men went back up the trail to make sure no solo women hikers came across him, while I waited in the lot for 911. It def happens. I believe her.

[@olgamirocha6537]

Omg so scary 😳😳

[@KarenThaler-x8v]

Happen to me walking down the beach. A guy totally exposed and masterbating and I ran. I took another route home.

[@wizardofahhhs759]

What did you think of his genitalia?

[@jessicahannah2522]

@@wizardofahhhs759 Every man has one. Nothing unique. A pe is a pe is a pe is a pe.

[@nutmeg5]

@@wizardofahhhs759fine as long as you have a tweezer and a microscope. Oh and Thorazine in a hip flask.

[@waterfall_brook]

I have heard so many other stories from women who have had similar experiences to the young woman in the second story, the only difference being that they were able to find their way out of the woods before a search was called. They all swear they were being chased, or pursued, and they could sometimes hear their pursuers. All I can say is that we need to listen to that instinct. If it says run, run. :(

[@Kristenoyinbo]

I agree 100%

[@kayingthao5072]

I second that, I’d rather be seen as a wacky paranoid lady than a naive dead lady.

[@eller3452]

Women get pursued, hunted, and stalked for heinous reasons all the time in the cities and counties. Of course it happens in the woods.

[@winterkind1772]

Part of my family used to own some land with thick woods on it. I've seen so many strangers on those wildlife cameras my uncle had. I hate it when people say that women are just scared or paranoid. They should just be happy that they never felt this deep deep fear when your body tells you to run.

[@ontheroad684]

I agree. As an avid outdoors person, I trust my instincts very well. I also know that there are people out in the woods watching. I don't think people understand how there are human predators out there who hide out from society. As women, we also need to be aware that fear can play tricks on us when we are lost. Both can be true at the same time.

[@RamrodSmothers]

I’m a 6’4” 250 lb dude and I’ve been spooked on solo trips… I couldn’t imagine what would go through a 22 year old woman’s mind in her situation. Poor decisions, yes… but no judgement here. Just glad it turned out as well as it possibly could in this case

[@jenniferindigochameleon6680]

I did months on the road as woman in 80s. Never got scared

[@RightsForZombies]

Thanks for being more compassionate about the kind of fears women contend with than many have been in these comments. There are some psychos out there, women are just usually the targets but men are absolutely not immune to violence from strangers in these situations either.

[@Saffron-sugar]

Good point. People are always talking as if men are bullet-proof, bear proof and immune to all poisons. They also speak as of all men are your size when there are plenty of men that are about 5”8 and 150. The entire “women are unsafe“ thing is far overblown. Most motive victims are actually men. Statistically, men kill more men than they kill women. I’m not including war. It just doesn’t make as good as a story.

[@Saffron-sugar]

@@jenniferindigochameleon6680 agreed. I have been in the woods and I’ve travelled the world by myself, since the 90s. Still going. The idea that being a woman automatically makes you a victim is very fashionable right now. So many women are in a constant state of anxiety. Shame. I would rather be free and get killed than live my life locked away in terror. Are we supposed to believe all men are 1980s Arnold Schwarzenegger and loaded down with weapons and years of self-defence training 😂?! I wish! In reality, I can outrun most men, certainly America, where most of this debate is based

[@shannonhoffman7873]

​@@Saffron-sugarshaming other women is targeting the wrong group. Hell, no one should be targeted. But why such a loaded comment? Yikes. Go be you. No need to judge the rest of the world.

[@elrioviolino3549]

I remember a case from the Appalachian trail where a woman went missing for a couple weeks and contends she was being chased and stalked for many many days by feral men in the forest. She went almost a week without sleeping....etc but was eventually rescued.....

[@ontheroad684]

I believe it, but I'm shocked she was able to evade a group of men in the forest? Good for her but seems like an impossible task.

[@RH-tv9hk]

Is that a different case than the one in the video?

[@eveslady100]

​@@ontheroad684desperate people. Desperate things. If you feel like somebody is following /watching you with intent, that is not good and they do not announce themselves. That is a scary experience for sure. Women need to worry when they go places like in the woods by themselves because there are some real sickos out there even on the Appalachian trails that will take full advantage of a woman by herself.

[@ontheroad684]

@@eveslady100 Oh I never go by myself. Which is probably why they didn't approach.

[@nutmeg5]

Sounds like she’s psychotic from lack of sleep

[@gotahgemini6415]

the last story - boys being boys? Hell no, they could seriously have offed someone. Hope they are being watched because that is just messed up!

[@lisalally]

Boys being boys I think of as 11-12 yr olds, or younger, not 19 and 21 yr olds! I think these guys had something else in mind other than animals being hurt. Also, even them wanting to hurt or kill animals for absolutely no reason, are still signs of something being off with them two.

[@ThePondCrusader]

Kinda crazy. I live in Arkansas and me and 2 of my friends hike a lot, on one of our hikes we came across 2 deadfall traps with what we believed to be facies on sharpened sticks in them, and a very large log being held up with a stick that had a trip wire attached to it. We left and informed the park ranger they filled it all in and disarmed it but also closed the trail for close to a month after. I no longer jog on trails do to this.

[@pollypockets508]

It's infuriating. Such BS.

[@kelsey9203]

& that’s A LOT of work for a “prank” 🙄

[@MrPhillip-o5m]

This blows my mind how people think this is a human trap. The rope and spiked thing are clearly visible from outside the hut! WTF it's clearly an animal trap and not a good one at that.

[@angiadcock8196]

I have no idea why I’m so obsessed with your channel. I hate the outdoors and my biggest fear is being stranded in the wilderness. I’m constantly baffled that people choose to spend time hiking and such. But anyway, your videos are always high quality and the stories fascinate me as much as they scare the hell out of me. These were extra entertaining because they were so weird.

[@dawnboese6613]

You and me both 😅

[@canterburytail2294]

It's a vicarious thrill and I will take it any day over trying to climb K2. I was lucky enough to get my worldly adventures over with before I became scared of dying and painful injuries, I feel a bit of a stick in the mud, might have to climb a knoll or something soon,haha!

[@SilverToes756]

You are weird.

[@KidarWolf]

@@canterburytail2294 If you lived near me, I'd gladly go with. I was a very outdoorsy person, but disability sidelined me for a long time. I'm finally fit and sound enough to get back into my outdoorsy stuff (though probably not to the same intensity I used to be involved with it). I have no desire for taking big risks these days, I'm too old and busted to survive the ordeal, but a climb up a nice easy knoll sounds like good fun. If you do decide you want to go for a hike, start with a nice, easy, flat, well-travelled trail first, and start early in the day, and keep it light - no more than a couple of miles. Just take it slow, and enjoy the world around you. If you like that, go do it again, but add a bit more distance if you feel up to it. Don't forget to make a planned route card and leave it with a trusted friend, and if you go somewhere protected by park rangers, leave a copy with them too. That way, people know where to start their search from if you do get waylaid. Sure, it's an easy trail, but you watch this channel, you know bad things happen even on easy trails - always always leave a route card, and sign in and out of parks and trails if they have sign-in books.

[@canterburytail2294]

@@KidarWolf🌻🩷 Thank you.

[@philmccraken]

I feel like the woman’s fears were warranted. The amount of stories of people her age going missing or being attacked while on trails is scary. Her mental health got the better of her that day but she shouldn’t be embarrassed about being scared

[@KoolKats5]

I agree. I used to hike alone all the time until I had an incident involving an If'y "fellow hiker" (yeah, he was no hiker). Thankfully another person, an Actual fellow hiker, came upon us and saved me from what I'd feared might be my last hike. I've never hiked alone since and neither should anyone else. Take a friend or a very big, protective dog, a mastiff is good

[@rawnoon1616]

Statistically speaking that's wrong. The large overwhelming majority of Stories or experiences don't get news reports or KZbin videos about them when nothing goes wrong. The # of people that hike alone and run into other people aren't murdered or attacked. You can try to rationalize your fear as much as you want but your listed reason is 100% empirically and statistically incorrect.

[@lisaburt7936]

Women especially should ALWAYS listen to their instincts if they are getting the feeling something isn’t right.

[@KoolKats5]

@@lisaburt7936 absolutely. We're conditioned to be "polite" to put "edicate" before instinct and that's Wrong. Always follow your instincts. We have them for a reason; to keep us alive

[@djgarcia5209]

There is a story where a couple actually walked into one of ted bundy victims on a trail but it was dark so they didnt know there was a dead body there bundy said he watched them while he was hiding and they walked into the body but it was so dark they just turned around and left i guess one day they saw the interview with ted bundy telling the story and realized it was them that night and had no clue how much danger they were actually in

[@elizabethmcglothlin5406]

The woman in the second story may well have been being hunted by a bad person/persons at first and then was so traumatized that she was evading the searchers. Men in groups can behave badly. Down in the forests of Southern Ohio, they are often drunk as well. I've been menaced outside my own home.

[@christopherthomas6783]

14:53, their was ,NO EVIDENCE, of her being "stalked" much less hunted. People who can't walk through the woods alone and stay on trail shouldn't go into the wilderness. Their carelessness and or over confidence puts other people's lives in danger; namely the searchers.

[@Jules-bf2wu]

No evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen​@@christopherthomas6783

[@carlacook5181]

Not to mention people hiding drug dens or moonshiners. Ooh, the boobytrap story is an example of what could be.

[@Saffron-sugar]

Absolutely, it can happen. But she said that they saw her. If a whole group of organised people who wanted to get her (men or women) had laid eyes on her, they would have gotten her. But she was unharmed. It’s possible that it was a hidden drug organisation. In which case they may have just wanted her out of the area they were using. But, nothing was found. She also admitted that she was hiding from the search party because she thought they were after her too. It sounds like a psychotic episode. Not because it’s impossible, but because there was no evidence. I have had patients who believed there were people following them. They have insisted that there were people in the room with both of us, whilst I was examining them, and there was not. It’s not impossible that people could be in a room. But it wasn’t the case. They were in the midst of her psychotic episode and medication made the people disappear. Of course men can get together and hurt a woman. But a person can also have a psychotic episode. It has nothing to do with whether or not something is possible.

[@Saffron-sugar]

@@christopherthomas6783 yeah but people don’t know they can’t hack it, until they can’t hack it.

[@wbelle_author]

After watching a number of shows describing serial killers in National Parks who got away with their murders, her story may not be so off kilter..

[@harduphiker]

especially when those hunters never came forward....that's highly suspicious.

[@katarinatibai8396]

💯💯💯 Human predators are aut there. No one should be naive about this.

[@fatherofmimes4236]

Gonna Call BS on that last one. looking at the design of these traps, obviously designed to seriously injure or worse... Glad to know a forest ranger found them instead of a kid.

[@thevoiceofreason8240]

I hate that I'm so jaded that my first instinct was to suspect the forest ranger (who just so happened to be an expert in these things) built the trap so he could "find" them.

[@cboyles84]

​@@thevoiceofreason8240It's not your fault, mate. You're jaded for a reason as an I. At least we're able to recognize and acknowledge that fact 😸

[@drkdale]

​@@thevoiceofreason8240quite coincidental he found it. I wonder if he was practicing what he studied, you know... just to see how its done.. But if he took multiple days to build the thing, maybe he went back and found it disturbed in some way like someone unknown had found and snooped his spot. Perhaps he got paranoid they took pics and reported it, perhaps they set a trail cam that's watching him as he is back looking at the setup.. Awww shoot! Guess he's gotta say he just found it and play it off in case they told on him rather than getting hammer spikes to the head..😂

[@lindawilson4625]

#1 Poor guy! #2 Poor girl! #3 WTF is wrong with some people? Glad the forrest service guy found it, knew what it was, and what to do. I hope karma really gets those guys. What the attny said? B,S.! They knew what they were doing. That sentence was way too light! I think we will hear more about them in the future. They are not right in the head.

[@Brandoncye]

Oh yeah, one or both of them will be hin the news again. Or behind bars in the future. The one with long hair looks crazy and the short hair dude looks like a total follower. I can see these two being like a match and sticks to eachother. Bad combo.

[@LorienInksong]

A lot of strange dissappearance stories involve people having something go wrong with their mental health and getting lost forever. There's no shame in that happening, and I suspect either something unrelated really scared that woman or her mental health was having a moment. Just really glad she was okay.

[@frisk151]

I absolutely agree.. However, I really have reservations that this was the core of either of these people going "poof".. NO, I don't at all.. Especially the first guy... The silence (at this point - and without research) is kinda deafening.. There should have been an instant notification if a new phone was added to an account.. You DO NOT get on airplanes (outside of GA / Private) without an ID.. IF the cell company that sold him a new phone.. Used his d/l name, it would have instantly popped up.. I do not do the conspiracy crap.. I don't think this was one. i smell games and douchebaggery.. The cloths are seriously irrelevant....

[@Stephanie-hq6py]

That ist exactly what I often think in cases like this. There should BE more people talking about stuff like this! Psychosis can happen to everyone!

[@WhitneyDahlin]

​@@frisk151 yeah I 100% agree with you! The only explanation is that this dude was lying. Maybe he tried to leave his family to be with someone else who ended up rejecting him or he may have even wanted to disappear to start a new life and then regretted it. So then he had to pretend he doesn't have a memory of it so he doesn't have to explain anything. I think that's the most likely. He's a liar.

[@Starry_Skye22]

I’ve been in the Adirondacks hiking up a trail, that we thought was a short fun hike. Well we were on the wrong mountain and it started snowing. The trail was literally up the side of a mountain in a dried creek bed. It was insane but also kinda spooky bc it started getting dark. Your eyes play tricks on you there like coming down the mountain exhausted I kept thinking the rocks in the woods around me were like little cabins. But no they were rocks. Bring a weapon hiking, never go alone, tell someone where you are going and get one of those little trackers so people can find you. Stuff gets weird in the woods very quickly.

[@kimmcdonald8443]

Personal locator beacon....they save lives!

[@Kristenoyinbo]

A satellite beacon always!

[@kulsoomahsan4440]

Just a couple of boys messing around? At 19 and 21? If they wanted to play army they shouldve gone to the recruiters office.

[@kirstybrown1185]

People like that have no business being in the military.

[@kulsoomahsan4440]

@@kirstybrown1185 Good point.

[@thebluehotel426]

No. 3 is the worst case of delayed frontal lobe development I've ever heard.

[@mmkoogler]

I fully relate to the woman in the woods. God bless her heart. I hope she is safe now or is at least getting any help she needs. ❤ I share my story a lot, even if its just in comments, in hopes of spreading more about mental health awareness. Seven years ago, after a seizure that lasted for hours, I woke up in the ICU and they asked me how many days I thought I had been there. I thought 3 days. It was my 10th day. I was semi- aware of them trying to insert my IVs and my brain thought I was being embalmed and I couldn't understand why my mom, who was sitting right there, was "letting them kill me." So I ripped out IV after IV. The next 2 weeks I spent hallucinating that all the nurses were out to get me. My mom tells me now I made multiple calls to her daily explaining their "plans." In my head, my board in my hospital room where they put the patient info looked like codes I was supposed to figure out and I was convinced if I cracked everything it said, the nurses would let me go. I was in the hospital for almost a month. Luckily the last 4-5 days was just for observation. But it truly gets terrifying when you find yourself in a situation like that. That shit is real! Even when everyone else doesn't understand what is going on or how you could be acting like that, in your head, you're just scared. And much worse things than this happen to people every day. Mental health is real, too. (I've been told it's not a few times). Please know that everyone has a story and all I hope to gain from sharing mine is no harsh words and also spreading more awareness. ❤ Again, much love for this unnamed woman and I hope she's doing okay today.

[@dinkvjr]

Wow, what an experience! Ty for sharing!! I'm guessing the seizure messed with your brain and put you into a fight or flight state of mind. I'm glad that you didn't make it worse on yourself by leaving the hospital or anything. One lady had something like that happen to her so she snuck out of 3rd story stair system which led to an outside stair system but Noone checked it out and she died there!!! I'm glad you made it out of there and obviously got your mind back to not being fearful or paranoid. Paranoia is a life saver yet also a curse. Thanks again for sharing, I hope you are doing well.

[@themikecranston]

My daughter developed schizophrenia at 22... Same symptoms, everybody was out to get her. All I can say is, better living through modern chemistry!

[@angiadcock8196]

So a lot of commenters are saying Danny intended to walk away from his life which is possible, but I really don’t think that happens as much as people think it does. But you know what does happen a lot? People being weird af after a head injury. I remember one story about a man who was shot in the head while sleeping and he got up and started getting dressed for work instead of calling for help.

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

I'm pretty sure his injury was from an axe. His wife survived, barely. He didn't realize he needed the hospital. My question is, How did he shave after so many blows to the head?

[@angiadcock8196]

@@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206 Might have been. I think I got that guy confused with the one that was shot by an intruder as well as his girlfriend who died and the cops hauled him in for questioning assuming he shot the gf because he was acting weird and mid interrogation they notice he has a bullet hole in his head.

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

@@angiadcock8196 Oh I remember that guy too! I think they noticed a hole in his nose?! He was wearing one of those white onesie things, probably to make sure all the evidence stayed put?!

[@Ron-d2s]

I keep thinking Danny has too much in common with Steven Kubaki, disappear and show back up again with no knowledge of what happened. Also the one-eyed weatherman that was an archery champ and had gone missing from his FIRST family in a boating incident... You know when one black-ops gets discovered they always say it's been shut down for years... then decades later you learn it kept going under a different name... how many names does Project Bluebook have, and what is the current name of MK-Ultra?

[@Ron-d2s]

@@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206 There is one where a gal shoots her husband and he asks her to take him to the hospital, she takes forever but gets him there and they saved him, another was a kid that axed his mom and dad and the dad was on auto pilot until he got outside then he dropped.

[@albtckl]

Kyle, I just have to say you are a genuinely good dude and I really appreciate how kind and respectful you are of those in these stories and in all of your videos. I look forward to your uploads and can't wait to see you hit 1 mil!!

[@icanfixthislater963]

I believe her. Hers is far from the only story of hikers being stalked through the woods. She was a young woman hiking alone, the perfect victim for hiking trail assaulters and killers. I've heard several over the past couple years of watching/hearing these kinds of stories. I'll choose the bear over a strange man every time.

[@ungenbunyon5548]

Go live in the woods with thebears then

[@hurpaderpp]

She was clearly schizophrenic, plainly obvious to anyone who knows people with the affliction

[@Samichski]

not the bear shit again... get on with it !

[@pigvig]

@@BradD1997 god damn dude it’s not that serious 😭😭 kind of telling if you are this offended

[@JohnLoogleman]

No way. If these alleged hunters were after her, and she was close enough to hear their radio comms, they would have got her and nobody would have seen her again. She just lost the plot when she lost her way in the forrest.

[@PassingThrough-p3l]

If it was for animals, they wouldn’t have made it look like a fort.

[@MrPhillip-o5m]

No, if it was for humans, you would put it in a place where you know humans will go, like across a trail. You would hide if as well. In the photo the trap is clearly visible from outside the hut. Look at the bear traps the NPS use. The resemble a hut. The bait is put in the hut. The bear must walk through the door to get the bait, triggering the trap. With all of the survival shows were people compete to survive the longest it is not surprising that someone would build this.

[@clydemobleyjr30]

I graduated high school in 89 Deerhunters even back then would use walkie-talkies to talk to each other!

[@stevengagnon4777]

Also they were certainly talking to each other about her. Most would have been concerned about her. In all probability they may have known about the situation for hand and were possibly trying to get her attention and lost sight of her. In the woods visibility is often limited so that's easy enough. The fact that searchers did eventually find her that is probably due to them reporting seeing her. A known sighting would certainly have given the search effort an a location to concentrate efforts in. Having made wrong turns in the woods myself that panic thing can get magnified rather quickly and needs to be managed as quickly. I was seeing " bears" that were clumps of brush. I wasn't totally lost and reason was at hand and prevailed remembering that all I needed to do was go in the right direction and eventually come out at a known landmark. Anyway that first realization of being lost is obviously the most critical and going from that point in panic is always going to complicate the situation. Unfortunately she was relying on her instinct as a "deer" 🦌 and not really knowing what that actually is having not been a deer 🦌. She really needed to put that aside. Deer have a routine and a network of well known trails that they can easily find. As a human we don't have the same set of tools to work with. I suspect she wasn't looking back during her hike so she didn't have any mental pictures of the land marks going back to where she came from . That really makes a difference because that happens on a subconscious level. That does aid you in returning to where you came from, because those matching pictures also happen at a subconscious level and are brought to a conscious level to reassure you that you are heading in the right direction.

[@shoulderstrapadventures5883]

How bad would that suck. Be lost in the woods and scared the people trying to help you are out to get you. So much you hide from those people trying to save. What a nightmare scenario.

[@ivanpetrov5185]

This looks like schyzophrenia for me.

[@ursodermatt8809]

i find it hard "to go easy" on that woman. she caused a lot of trouble big time. and she should not have been in the woods in the first place. i mean if you are so scared of everything, why would you even think of going there.

[@TomasDahl-zr3pj]

That's literally what happened to a woman lost in the jungle in the Panamanian jungle, the people who were supposed to rescue her ended holding her captive and using her as a sex slave until she eventually managed to escape

[@WhiteWolfSpirit]

Wake up…missing 411 every institution is the exact opposite of what it says it is. It sucks but that’s how the world and the media work. Be good, don’t go where you should not and observe those around you. Nothing is what it seems. Edit- there is no test for schizophrenia. I thought we weren’t supposed to be offering medical advice this nor diagnosing one another? Or did that only apply with Covid?

[@sachab6098]

Rapists in the woods

[@Kristenoyinbo]

That poor woman that hid from her searchers; I believe she was being followed in the beginning as so many attacks happen on trails especially to solo women. Guys PLEASE always ALWAYS carry an emergency becon with you as u never ever know when u will need it! They save lives! Be safe

[@eveslady100]

Or carry a serious boom gun

[@TonyB2279]

I feel like that first mystery is more "Why did this dude decide to take a powder and hitchhike (if that's what he did) clear across the country" than"OMG what could've happened???" We mystery buffs need to start being a little more willing to call shenanigans on people's stories from time to time.

[@nannyalberte]

I saw an in-depth video about the second story, I think it was by The Lore Lodge, and the situation was less of a "paranoid woman has a mental breakdown". Apparently, she was a very experienced hiker, and with all the stories you've told, I'd think you'd be less quick to dismiss her fear of being followed or stalked, especially if she went off-track. Of course, this could have very well been a mental breakdown. Or she could easily have just got scared to death and, for a woman lost in the wild? Pretty reasonable. It would be reasonable if it was a man alone lost in the wild, too. It must be so terrifying

[@jenniferindigochameleon6680]

Bare minimum research, not bothered to learn how to pronounce place names

[@lisalally]

I was thinking this also…maybe there were people following her initially, then afterwards, she couldn’t tell friend from foe. Doesn’t sound unreasonable after listening to numerous of Kyle’s stories about what can happen when hiking.

[@Nithinithinith]

He is a man still. Those are usually very blasé about women. Probably thought she was on her period or something.

[@KoolKats5]

Getting lost is always terrifying, it's a non-gender specific event.

[@RightsForZombies]

The first story has always seemed suspicious to me. There are many red flags but with how much national press and even international attention the case received it seems very odd none of the drivers came forward, nor anyone else who must have interacted with him during his time missing. It makes more sense that he went missing of his own volition, kept a low profile (hence a lack of witnesses), got a new phone so he couldn’t be tracked and so he could do various things like check on the search for him, and then when he felt ready came back. Maybe there were things in his life he was struggling with and he needed to get away, or he had a mental health crisis, maybe he wanted to start over and had a change of heart. It’s just the lack of corroborating evidence/witnesses, the fact he supposedly suffered a severe TBI but was able to travel safely cross country and even obtain a brand new iPhone (suggesting he probably worked at some point or brought cash with him) and the fact that his amnesia is medically dubious according to several doctors makes me highly doubtful that he’s being truthful. Not for nefarious reasons, but perhaps because he’s ashamed or embarrassed or scared of repercussions. The second case on the other hand? I absolutely believe she was being stalked on the trail initially. It happens to women all the time, and it’s very usual for lost, frightened and weakened hikers to become paranoid and hide from rescuers, but I do think she had a reason initially to be frightened that wasn’t anything to do with mental illness or an overactive imagination.

[@LeL-q9e]

I am not completely comfortable with the Fillipidis story but that seems to be the only thing that make s sense, a head injury, not having any corroborating evidence either way. A CT man, a married father, went missing. Ten years later his body was found in NY under an alias. He died of natural causes. So maybe as was suggested DF intended to start a new life but changed his mind.

[@samarnadra]

I had a friend who was supposed to meet us for a D&D game online and while he was often late because he was flaky and would often lose track of time or fall asleep in the middle of the day or forget, he missed it entirely and couldn't be reached, which was weird, because the DM had his actual cellphone number and it rang. Over 2 days later we heard from him. Turns out he had arrived at a place he was going to but didn't remember going there, and had lost 18 hours of time due to a blackout while completely sober. He spent the next day trying to figure out what happened in that 18 hours and was left even more confused (because he had taken a train at one point, among other things). When we finally reached him we were like "dude, if you are blacking out for that long and still able to do all those things, you really need to see a doctor." We ended up using getting to remain in the D&D game to pressure him into getting checked out. He had a very high iron content on his blood test, to the point of iron poisoning, and in looking for a cause they found a very old and rusted tip of a knife broken off in his shoulder, that as it broke down was slowly poisoning him. They removed it and treated the iron poisoning and he stopped losing time and sleeping randomly and having blackouts. He was, with the help of friends, able to estimate approximately when he may have gotten mildly stabbed, and he didn't remember because he would have been very much not sober at the time (he knew he woke up back at home after going out somewhere, with his shoulder hurting, and just figured he stumbled into something. While not a TBI, the fact that while in a blackout my friend managed to travel by public transportation and only come to at the final train station, indicates to me that either both these men need to be given a fiction award, or that it is wholly possible to do certain fairly habitual tasks and not remember it while suffering amnesia. My guess is he mumbled something jumbled about skiing and Toronto, and someone, (assuming he had an accent or a couple beers) just assumed that meant Sacramento and asked and he thought they were right. That may have even come into play later. Maybe someone thought he meant a place closer by and he realized this wasn't right and someone else assumed another place. At a certain point, Sacramento is going to be a more likely interpretation by a trucker or road tripper than Toronto. He may have even implied he had to go northwest at some point and had someone interpret that as to the Pacific Northwest. I have a bad sense of direction and I have given people less coherent directions than these, and had to correct them, which he couldn't have done.

[@pw3624]

We hiked up Big Springs all the time with our young sons around that time. Those traps would have been something my boys would have tried to climb into. I'm grateful the ranger was able to find it before anyone else.

[@TPS_Report]

Really? There was no evidence that men were possibly stalking her? What kind of evidence were they expecting to find? And where were they looking? I fully believe that she came across some creepy men, and as a single female lost and alone in the woods, that is TERRIFYING. That would have sent me into a tailspin as well, although I like to think I could tell the difference between creepy strange men and SAR shouting my name. That said, it doesn't shock me at ALL that the men of the time discounted her entire story. She must have been living a nightmare.

[@lucavecsei2621]

I was surprised too, when I heard the "lack of evidence". It has as much sense as the requests by some online sellers, asking to show evidence that a parcel arrived empty.

[@wendystevens5270]

I believe her. The fact that most stories involving women and hiking are usually horrific SA and Mu*der makes me glad that she hid. Then the authorities are mad at a terrified 22 year old? Come on. How many man hours have gone into rescuing men from these trails. I bet they don't get humiliated for needing a rescue.

[@JimmyJamesJ]

What is wrong with you? Give your head a good shake.

[@kirstybrown1185]

They had every right to be annoyed and if she wasn’t immediately put under psychiatric supervision, she was let down. I get fear and I get why she hid but she didn’t hear words that didn’t happen. She had a mental break and likely wasn’t fully mentally well when she went there. She wasted resources. Most people who are found are tipped into a little bit. Others trying to find her could’ve been hurt. Please don’t enable bad decisions and don’t villainise the people who were taken advantage of. What happened was sad but she was either lying or needed professional help. If she didn’t get the second, she’s clearly exaggerated her story.

[@Sirshackleton]

Those two are a couple of freaks! I’ll never believe those two didn’t know how dangerous that trap was.

[@brenda5511]

Something ain’t right with those guys

[@poll2dock]

Back when I was in my 20s (long before I became a firearms instructor) I was walking my Irish Wolfhound in an isolated area. The dog was off leash. Suddenly I noticed a man in front of me. He started making small talk. Then two more appeared behind me. I knew this was very bad. My dog then returned and stood by me. My dog was a wimp but I grabbed her collar and said I couldn’t hold her. Now this is a giant breed dog but not aggressive. The strangest think happens. My dog turn’s ferocious. Growling, pulling, attack mode. She saved my life.

[@mjtegan4839]

Cancer survivor here and intravenously need potassium and magnesium. These drinks have helped me tremendously thank you, Kyle.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@aarontaylor4967]

That last one is seriously the product of a disturbed mind. That fort/ barricade must have taken hours to build.

[@tphills97]

The whiteface one is insane. As a lake placid resident and whiteface season pass holder. It’s impossible to go unnoticed walking from the children’s area all the way to Rt 86 and then hitchhike in ski gear. Most locals assume he was trying to disappear and got cold feet. Any other reasonable answer involves aliens lol

[@c.g.ku.9479]

In another interview that the lady in the second story had given, she stated that she didn't respond to the helicopter and search and rescue because she was afraid to draw attention to herself and give herself away to the men who were chasing her. I personally believe her. How could "authorities" even find any evidence anyway? Stalking and chasing isn't a THING that could ever be found. I know how stalking victims are treated by the authorities, and how poorly they react to violent crimes in many, many cases.

[@eveliinaniilivuo7329]

Love and support from Finland Kyle!!🤗♥️

[@WalterZw]

The scenario you describe strongly resembles a phenomenon known as "fugue state" or dissociative fugue. This is a rare psychological condition in which a person suddenly loses their entire identity and personal history and may travel long distances without remembering how they got there. Here are some characteristics of dissociative fugue: Amnesia: The person cannot remember important personal information that is typically not forgotten, such as their name, past, or significant life events. Travel: It is common for people in a fugue state to travel far and live under a new identity without being aware of the change. Confusion about identity: The person is often confused about their identity or may adopt a new one. Spontaneous return to normality: After a period, the person often returns to their normal consciousness without any memory of the events that occurred during the fugue phase. In the case you described, it is possible that Danny entered a fugue state. He may have forgotten his identity and location, which would explain why he appeared in Sacramento without knowing how he got there and still wearing his ski suit. It would be advisable for Danny to see a doctor or therapist to get a proper diagnosis and investigate the underlying causes.

[@HikingAZ]

The sharpened sticks in the traps look very freshly sharpened. Like within a week of them being found....

[@sabrinatscha2554]

The overwhelming majority of notable “fugue state” memory-loss cases, just end up being attempts at escaping responsibility without repercussions. Out of all the cases I’ve ever heard of (I estimate around 20), there are only two that I found even remotely believable. One of these men was on Dr. Phil, and it was a big deal a few years ago; when genetic genealogy helped him reconnect with his siblings. His story is wrought with dysfunction and obvious mental illness. It was an uphill battle for that poor man, the entire way, and he sought help from multiple sources, like hospitals, and homeless shelters, and there are credible records of his attempts to find his true identity. You don’t just suffer a serious mental breakdown, buy an iPhone, get a haircut, and then move on without asking questions. That’s not how that works.

[@Kari.F.]

In many cases, the fugue state is obviously an excuse for people who have tried to run away from something. However: What was this guy trying to run away from? How come he wanted to get back home as soon as he snapped back? People have done weirder things than buying something and getting a haircut while experiencing a fugue state. While I have never experienced this, I have done a lot of weird things while sleepwalking in my life, and never remembered a thing after waking up. My brother called me once, and I talked to him at length, sounding completely normal. I have no recollection of that phone call to this day, and this was years ago. (Scary shit!) They compare the fugue state to severe, prolonged sleep walking. It must be terrifying for people in the real cases! When people have nothing to run away from, and they practically report themselves missing once they come too, because they need help to get home, the "trying to escape" theory makes no sense to me. Yes, there are a lot of fake cases, but "that's not how this works" is just your assumption, not your expert opinion or lived experience. My handful of experiences with short snippets of "fugue light" have given me a little bit of understanding of how it feels. My sleepwalking, times 10 in time lapse and severity? Holy cow! 😱

[@RH-tv9hk]

That's exactly how brain injury works. Brain injury can cause people to do and say things that make no sense. The brain is extremely complex and intricate.

[@tiger_3723]

Someone should check those guys' basements. Thats serial killer behavior

[@MrPhillip-o5m]

Ye, making a human trap where you can clearly see from a distance is seareal killer behaviour.....humans: yes, let me walk under this spiked rock.😂

[@jessicahannah2522]

NO. IT ISN'T. Stop fear mongering. There are known traits of serial killers and setting booby traps in the woods is definitely not on the list. Jeez.

[@Umbra_Nocturnus]

@@MrPhillip-o5m Right. If you go there at night, you're not seeing shit. If it's hoisted up a tree to the side, to swing at you when you trip the wire, you're not seeing shit. Especially when you're a kid and excited to have found a cool fort in the forest.

[@AnaFolkenstal]

0:53 I love this "... to cover your admission", it fits the overall narrative here and it doesn't sound like you'd beg people for a sub. I'm already subscribed, but just wanted to let you know.

[@sharontimmis5543]

That last story is so sick and shows how bad society has become

[@RH-tv9hk]

People arguing over whether or not the woman in the 2nd story is paranoid because it sounds so unrealistic. Then comes the 3rd story.

[@weenacfeegle3086]

It sounds very like the poor woman in the second story had a psychotic break, it's very similar to what people in the gang stalking community talk about. That said, just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean that no one's out to get you. If she was already on the brink, an encounter with a genuinely dodgy individual may well have tipped her over. Unfortunately, many predators are opportunistic, and one may have been up on the trail, saw her, and thought, "While I'm here..." regardless, I'm sure her terror was very, very real. I hope that she was able to access effective mental health care afterwards, and move on to a normal life.

[@ursodermatt8809]

yeah, like a mouse triggered her "psychotic break". or something

[@jenniferindigochameleon6680]

A lot of guess work and supposition on your part. Tell yourself what you need to

[@TPS_Report]

I fully believe that she came across some creepy men, and as a single female lost and alone in the woods, that is TERRIFYING. That would have sent me into a tailspin as well, although I like to think I could tell the difference between creepy strange men and SAR shouting my name.

[@hurpaderpp]

Schizophrenia, strikes in your 20s most often

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

@@hurpaderppcorrect. It rarely manifests later than that. Most often late teens to mid twenties.

[@r01d2]

the first case bring back memories when I read about a dude who's so drunk really drunk he don't have any memories actually get taxi to airport, buying a ticket, flew to Paris, and passed out on their street.

[@pettylove86]

It's called a "blackout" and is common with alcoholics.

[@erictaylor5462]

What if she wasn't wrong? We are assuming that she had some kind of psychiatric break, but it sounds like she was perfectly sane. So I wonder, what if she was sane?

[@scottrawicz7613]

Over the years, I have heard of issues In Mass, Where someone was booby-trapping trails with poachers traps like Nail boards. I believe no one was hurt, they were reported before hand.

[@hurpaderpp]

I live here and people put wire up on mountain bike trails. Horse people who don't like bikers usually

[@scottrawicz7613]

@@hurpaderpp I hope you were not affected by this.

[@hurpaderpp]

@@scottrawicz7613 no just heard of it through my NEMBA group. the only people seriously hurt I know about were on ATVs or dirt bikes. One guy got beheaded somewhere because of it, never found out who it was too.

[@LAWandCoach]

She got lost, scared in the dark yep, it would be easy to think every sound is something and then it mounts.

[@PsycheWildflower]

Super stoked to find out my newest favorite youtuber is a fellow Clarkson Alumni who I might have shared the halls with, what a small world. Keep up the good work and great content bud!

[@shelleyhodgkinson1341]

Kyle, I appreciate your integrity and great stories..keep it up

[@margysfavourites8444]

I think Danny had a plan …. Then a change of heart 😙🤔 The idea of the new phone and hair cut doesn’t add up .

[@Janjones7735]

Yeah. Every one of these missing people who are later found stories they’ve left on purpose.

[@melodi996]

Not quite, if you have a fuge you do act like a normal person, you cna by things and even go on a trip, then your mind just snaps back into your regular personality and you're left with no idea what happened, because you weren't there technically to make memories.

[@SydneyCollin]

My thoughts too. Convenient amnesia, as his cover story.

[@gumballrun9881]

@@SydneyCollin The memories are still there, he just refuses to talk about it

[@nebuchadnezzar6894]

Why keep the ski gear on? If his plan was to start a new life somewhere, travelling across the entire country while wearing ski gear is the least inconspicuous thing you could do. The most likely explanation is just people acting weirdly after a head injury, which happens a lot. There's even a name for this kind of behaviour: dissociative fugue.

[@kathleenmcconaha5608]

I simply cannot stress this enough - NEVER HIKE ALONE, EVEN FOR WHAT YOU THINK WILL BE A SHORT ONE!!!!!!! ACCICDENTS HAPPEN ANY TIME ANY WHERE!!!

[@pennycarlson1943]

Lots of people won't be able to hike if they need to find a partner. Statistically it's really not that big a risk. You are much more likely to die in a car crash, but it won't make for as good a story. New locator devices also make it much safer.

[@verabrueggemann3884]

hi kyle! greetings from switzerland - thank you, I m so passionate about you telling the stories! perfect..

[@forgetmenot5687]

I remember when the skier got missing. I knew his college who was also looking for him. It was very strange. What I know is that they are decent, nice guys and this whole story is extremely disturbing.

[@susiesue3141]

Last story. Those two young men got off too easily. I consider their actions to be attempted murder. Now they are probably secret serial killers.

[@mgm8822]

I agree. The only thing they learned is not to get caught next time.

[@Cindy-c6s]

Love your content and wish you put out more, more often.

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

He's busy hiking! 😊

[@roweng.4245]

The spikey booby trap in the third episode looks rather like something from the film "Beowulf & Grendel" (2005). The item in the film was "armed" with deer antlers rather than wooden spikes, but the method was the same.

[@daveatkins3568]

This is a great channel and Kyle seems like a good dude. ✌🏻

[@Hyst3ricalCha0s]

Everyone thumbs up this video right now to welcome Kyle back!!❤

[@sallyh.6362]

I’ve heard several stories about people who inexplicably disappear from a mountain or snowy trail and are found deceased in a location that makes no sense or alive with no memory, in a place that makes no sense.. I think maybe extreme cold triggers some kind of underlying psychological condition or brain damage somehow.. in some cases.

[@Ondraha]

First story is typical clinical presentation of transient global amnesia (TGA). I've seen it myself (neurologist). Woman was brought by her family for being lost for over a day She just appeared back home like nothing had happened.

[@margaretstrobach6863]

Absolutely supportive of her and understand it's a wonderful but dangerous out there

[@kristiemcconathy7336]

Happy to see you're back from your break. Great video too ❤

[@NathanL-bx8kk]

Whiteface is one of my favorite hiking areas, hope more folks are able to get there to experience it as well 🤙🏼

[@michellecholewczynski6675]

The woman may have had a mental breakdown, or she seriously thought someone was trying to hurt her. I'm glad she is ok, and hopefully, she is living a good life.❤

[@TimFaulkner-qb5kl]

I believe her. I think she was pursued by someone out there.

[@jenniferindigochameleon6680]

Yeah that’s what was said in the video. Were you not listening?

[@TheBritishBRAD]

So in the first story as a person that lives in Sacramento I can confirm that we have people going through like Danny

[@Durrutitv]

Fine Kyle. Fine... You win. I subscribed. 😮‍💨

[@luanagardner1815]

Kyle, the whole world is just as charmed with you as I am!

[@diegoboffa9134]

Keep it up mate. Cheers and thanks for the content!

[@diegoboffa9134]

Just a tip thou... Change the golden particles coming from the background to some sort of dark grafite .. It will looks a lot better! Cheers

[@MelieneGardner]

That last one with the traps would probably have got me personally if I had been there. I am notoriously curious about those kinds of things, and am certainly not trained to look for traps like that. Scary stuff. I'm glad no one was hurt and the right people found it.

[@calpring8771]

Recently found your page ! You make awesome interesting vids mang ! Keep up the great work !!

[@shirleymiller5056]

Love and light ✨️

[@jamesburress2284]

Kyle God bless you!!I always enjoy your content.

[@janefromtennessee]

Glad she was found and helped It was a scary time for her. Happy she is ok. Hope her life has been very good.

[@gjenispeling4138]

I love your videos warm greetings from the Netherlands

[@jenniferbreaux7385]

As a woman alone in the woods, I can understand why she was scared.

[@eS._Te]

because she didn`t met a bear?

[@jenniferindigochameleon6680]

As I woman I say Stay The Fuck home if you’re that incompetent.

[@KoolKats5]

You've nearly reached 500k subscribers, way to go!

[@katherineschriever2892]

Similar amnestic events, like the Danny story, have been termed "fugue states", where the individual goes off track, travels a long distance and does not remember why or how.

[@damonroberts7372]

I think the hiker in the second story possibly watched "Deliverance" a few too many times. But yeah, if she was already feeling lost, in a stressful situation it's easy to freak yourself out.

[@bunnybgood411]

Those 2 guys from Orem, Utah must've been well-connected with high-ups in the Mormon Chirch to get off so incredibly lightly. That said, Kyle, you should really check out the red rock canyons of Southern Utah. I lived in UT for 24 years and the beauty there is breathtaking.

[@1heavyelement]

my god the commercials are insane today. in 17 minutes i've had the pleasure of 5 breaks in this video alone and still got 5 minutes left to go. 8 commercials in 23 minutes. how sad.

[@rosemadder5547]

I always forget that y'all get ads. I've had KZbin premium for so long I forgot about ads lol

[@1heavyelement]

@@rosemadder5547 i don't mind a few ads. but today is ridiculous. you tube is doing this on every video i watched today. just that its a bit of overkill.

[@Janjones7735]

I’m nine minutes in and have had no ads. KZbin definitely has it out for you today.

[@snickerdoodles787]

Just get youtube premium

[@mom.left.me.at.michaels9951]

I had one long ad 😅 but I do notice later at night there's way more, or if I don't get back to my phone to skip it, it will continue to just play more ads

[@FenixintheDark]

I'll do you one better than going easy on the woman. I'll defend her. Honestly, I'm kind of sick and tired of people (men) being so dismissive of women's claims. How many stories have *you yourself* told here about people being killed while out hiking? It is *very* feasible that she *was* being hunted. Just because authorities did not find evidence of it does not mean her claims were erroneous. Lack of evidence is *not* evidence of lack. It's also feasible that she became paranoid *after* she had reason to be fearful. Once you understand you *are* in danger by another's hand, then sure. Your hackles are up, and you mistrust everything. That does *not* mean there was never any danger at all. How about we quit with painting women who make such claims as "hysterical"?

[@JK-gm6kk]

Hey Clarkson! I have a bunch of friends who went there in the late 2000's early 2010's. We would drive up on the weekends because it was super fun and my friend was seeing one of said friends. We would hop from room to room and each had it's own vibe going and was super fun

[@bethbingham8691]

Hey...fellow Clarkson Grad here! Fun to hear on this video you are aa well!

[@Carmensrt]

The lady who hid may have had an active mental health episode. I really hope she's gotten proper medical attention and went on to live a healthy life.

[@YOUR-LOCAL13]

Or it really was wild men chasing her. A Smoky Mountain park ranger told my brother that there are, indeed, wild men in the Smokies.

[@cocoono11]

So hard to say, because it’s very VERY possible that she encountered people of ill-will. I also know of someone recently who had an episode, got lost, and then hid from search and rescue in the blistering CA summer. She had been horribly sunburned and dehydrated by the time she was found several days later. It breaks my heart that people have to suffer like that due to a mental illness. I hope she is doing well today! 💖✨

[@coco123278]

Im actually early-ish this time lol. Love your channel! Got my friends on you now too!

[@laylakukkola1699]

years ago an uncle of ours got what was called “geographical amnesia” He went on a trip from Canada to Hawaii and it happened there. He was completely confused. Didn’t know who he was or where he was. He came around eventually in a hospital.

[@Michelle-fh2dp]

On story 2: There have been so many horror movies of people being stalked by perverted woodsmen that I'm thinking she must've seen a few and her imagination went wild...or maybe not?😢

[@YOUR-LOCAL13]

Maybe there really are wild men in those mountains.

[@annriley4534]

@Michelle-fh2dp and also most horror fliks are based on true horror stories..the info is out there(talk about snuff fliks)ugh😖

[@moonflower9403]

I live in small town just outside of White Face, I’m just wanting to tell you very STRANGE things happen around here

[@AustinVaquera]

Hiked the foothills and up and down table rock all the time, that’s crazy

[@drwombat1978]

Shout out to SC!!!! Just moved back to Charleston. Been on the foothills trail a lot also

[@vivienneclarke2421]

A big shout out to LMNT~!! I love that stuff and buy the big 120 count box often. It's been great to have with the heat wave this summer.......stay salty🧂🧂🧂😂

[@SherryIrvin-l8c]

Good stories. Ty for ur hard work.

[@xochilguevara3429]

Those hunter guys could have been after her. No shortage of sickos out there.

[@KidarWolf]

I really feel for the woman who was afraid people were hunting her. Maybe they were, maybe she had a mental health issue that caused it. No matter what the reason, the truth is that she was lost and afraid and alone, and that had to be a very harrowing experience. I hope she's doing well now, and that the incident hasn't left her with resultant mental health issues related to it. Love and kindness to her, wherever she is. ❤

[@TheCriminalViolin]

That first story - If you suspect severe brain trauma, you NEVER DON'T RUSH FOR A MRI, or a catscan at least. Even if it's a month on, let alone a couple weeks, brain trauma is very visible. You do not just just sit and speculate and assume it's true. That's beyond irresponsible and dangerous. I have a lot of distrust for that whole situation given the circumstances. Something is really wrong with how they dealt with it.

[@DoriGordon-oi8sq]

I love this show!!! Always, always exciting, new stories, or ones definitely needing a second look!! Poor Danny!! WTF happened?? The young woman could have been mistaken, maybe it was construction workers but with all the crazy stories that have come out since?? Who knows? There was a sk in Alaska who hunted and killed women for sport I recall - a baker or something? In any event, getting spooked like that I can see, but if she acknowledged that she knew some were legit looking for her and dodged them? Then maybe she was unsure, and then 10 days they stopped looking with 100 ppl? IDK..... The other two, both over 18, at 19 and ESPECIALLY the 21-year-old!! Should have stayed FELONIES!! Wonder what the records look like now or in a couple of years if this was super recent!! Super lucky. It's too bad they couldn't demonstrate the kind of injury this could have caused!! Thanks again, Kyle😉!!

[@SSCryptoCurrent]

My dude! Wanted to share that I went to St. Lawrence down the road from you in Canton. I skied Whiteface while I was in school, and climbed the Esther/ Whiteface trails participating in Peak Weekend one autumn. Obviously I needed to stop at the 1:30 mark to leave you a "Cluck Farkson" in the comments for old times sake 😉 Thank you for your research and content!