3 Reasons Disgaea 7 Is Changed For The Better Over Disgaea 6

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

Disgaea 7 is great and it fixes these 3 issues people had with disgaea 6.

[@MaxVisser]

Disgaea isn't going downhill (why some people immediately assume that if only the latest game isn't very good), with Disgaea6 they tried some new things that didn't work out very well/they didn't pull of as good as (I assume) intended. I was expecting Disgaea7 to be at least a whole lot better, I got the game early and up to now I'm happy with it! The experience is pretty close to 4 and 5 indeed. I still prefer the look of the animated 2D characters, though I think the 3D adoptations are pretty well done. I wish they used the 2D versions on the battlefield and the 3D ones just to have more flexibility in the action animations . But overall this looks to be a great Disgaea game again, so i'm happy!

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

to be fair they did shut down their mobile game and the sales of disgaea 6 were way below expectations but i myself dont think its going down hill and im glad they took some of the good features of 6 and put it in 7

[@ZenKrio]

I know it is, and they should really build on what Disgaea 5 did for them, not on the crap D6 did...

[@AnimatronicBadgerlord]

I'm so ready for 7. I only wish that they had returned to the Pixel Graphics. It's complete flavor and unimportant to the game as a whole, but I just prefer how the pixel art looked! I'm ready to make my party of monsters! (I do miss the Bunnies from 5)

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

Yeah pixel art was really nice but 3d seems to be the evolution of the series with the new engine. Maybe some how in the future they could make a graphic choice for people

[@arkadiuszjandylewski152]

If 3d is evolution. How will Disgaea 10 look like?

[@AnimatronicBadgerlord]

@@arkadiuszjandylewski152 VR?

[@Spenerico]

@@AnimatronicBadgerlord AR on your table!

[@AnimatronicBadgerlord]

@@Spenerico That... Well if it was easy to control... could be kinda neat to see.

[@TheMagorianKnight]

Apparently the JP version is getting an update that'll add number bloat to the game, it's coming as an update and is also a part of the "Complete" edition they're releasing. They're also adding Asagi as a playable character too. The number bloat is on par with Disgaea D2 where your stats cap at 999,999,999. Don't know what the HP cap is though. I wouldn't be surprised if this add on update gets localized too.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

good to know thanks for the info and yeah they always do a complete edition so im sure we will get that too

[@dre463]

I think the main reason why people would do auto battle in disgaea 6 even if they dont want to is because of how huge the stage is. It takes time to just go near the enemies. Auto battle will make it simple. Plus there are stages wherein no matter how you rotate the camera you still cannot see some characters.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

yes the stages in 6 were the biggest and the series and that could make a battle take 3 times as long

[@BIGPILGRIM420]

auto battle made tons of sense in D6, helped combat the grind and the numbers bloat in the game. seemed like a natural fit for the series and i really liked optimizing my AI for runs, really surprised so many people bounced off it. probably just gamer alarmism, like how some people scoff at the phrase 'early access' without actually looking at the game itself. hope it's still pretty functional for grinding cos number bloat or not its still a disgaea game and I'm still HYPE!

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

i think the main reason people didnt like auto battle was it really really felt like i was playing insert any mobile game in the past decade. I think it has a place in the games to help with grind tho

[@rodyvanhulst]

Only 3 reasons :p i love Disgaea thats why Disgaea 6 was a hard kick in the nuts. The story was really boring interesting characters and boring battles. I liked the new 3d models but that was it. I have high hopes Disgaea 7 will get the series back on track because im a life time fan.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

same here life time fan and i still liked disgaea 6 it was like a bad game just not the disgaea i knew and 7 feels so much more like 4 and 5 its great. Im very hopeful for disgaea 8 to be even better

[@rodyvanhulst]

@@faizedfoxgaming7426 the story and humor are very important to make Disgaea and d6 dident make me laugh ones. But dude if its like 4 or 5 with velvatores and his questionable relationship with fenrich and the thief angel I would be so happy :) all memrable character like every Disgaea game.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

@@rodyvanhulst i agree 100% the story matters to me and this has lots of humor and is funny and has great characters to boot d6 lacked in those areas

[@RyouWoodware]

I'd rather have 25 classes and have all innocents in the game Then removing them is just them trying to push the x10 boost tickets

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

i didnt know innocents were removed what ones are missing. ill have to see what i can find out

[@RyouWoodware]

@@faizedfoxgaming7426 all expect the stat boosting ones

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

oh i think all except stat boositng ones were removed cuz now items have properties on them that you can move around with item reincarnation taking the place of what innocents used to do. Items never had innate effects or properties on them before like they do in 7 now

[@FKGafgarion]

Keep the videos up man I let everybody on my channel know if they needed Disgaea 7 videos to come here.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

Thanks dood you didnt have to do that very kind of you. I am pumped for the full release tomorrow and plan to make as many videos as i can daily

[@FKGafgarion]

@@faizedfoxgaming7426 lol nice and no problem man been watching your videos and you deserve more views and because I am no longer doing them figured I would send them your way. And keep up the good work doing great.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

Thanks again for the support

[@alexclaton]

complaining about the auto battle is dumb... its an optional feature you didnt have to use ffs... now we have a far worse version of it. I dont understand why people complain about having options in a video game. complaining about the numbers is also weird. i agree 6 didnt have enough classes

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

yes i like auto battle as an option. i think its a great choice for people that dont have all the time in the world to lay or grind in a game like this. My issue with it was in disgaea 6 it felt like the whole game was built around it and it was the optimal way to play due the the ever increasing numbers and bloat the game up with levels and stats. one of my favorite games tactics ogre reborn has auto battle and its optional and is no way the correct way to play cuz the ai will not play as well as a human.

[@alexclaton]

@@faizedfoxgaming7426 if the game is built around it (im not necessarily sure it is cuz every disgaea is built to be grindy and 7 is no exception) then i can actually understand and get behind that complaint. my issue is more on the menuing side of the grind which autobattle doesnt help with and is still there in 7. i do agree the the progression curve was wonky with the new numbers but i think that was more how they went about it then the numbers themselves. that said im fine with numbers going back to the usual for 7

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

i too am glad we got back to normal numbers. the item world in d6 felt very simple compared to previous games and felt like it was where you were supposed to auto battle just my opinion tho. D6 felt like a mobile game to me in alot of ways but i still did enjoy the game. The gameplay was different enough with the auto battle and the number bloat i just want a disgea game like 4 or 5 and 7 is just that

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

oh i will say auto battle was nice with the option to get all ur units out the base at once i would love to see that feature in future games at least

[@alexclaton]

@@faizedfoxgaming7426 you can still have them all pop out

[@zerohbeat]

Disgaea 7 is soo good in so many ways. I really liked the auto battle mode in Disgaea 6 as it was really quick way to get units on the map (from the base panel) or to move units towards far away enemies. These were the main ways I used auto-battle, shame its no possible in 7. Regarding the number bloat even though I too find it weird a bit (and I am soo happy NIS went back to normal numbers), in Japanese it makes soo much more sense. In Japanese 10 000 is 1万. 1 million is 100万 . With Japanese characters, from a glance its just easier to underhand in way. Plus in Japan, people are used to larger numbers due to how the currency is.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

true auto battle was nice to get all ur units out at once i would like to have that as an option very nice. oh yeah the number bloat does make sense in japan cuz their currency does have lots of 0's true point

[@Lucy_the_Pomeranian]

This game still lacks lots of weapon skills we get more creative over the top weapon skills like in the previous games

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

i havent played the full game yet since its not you so i cant comment on weapon skills but i can say they are back to being how they used to be before disgaea 6 and monsters actually have monster weapons again instead of using regular weapons'

[@fredtay4339]

Is there any challenging content in Disgaea 7? My main complain with the series is that you are endless grinding in maps that aren't challenging, then make overpowered units for what? One big secret boss that will just get oneshotted? Mobile Gacha games suck, but one thing they did really well is that their endless grind loop is better designed. There are a lot of specific difficult levels that you are trying to break through, needing specific strategies to beat. Once you beat that stage, it unlocks better grinding options/gear for you.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

well you got carnage mode to work toward basically the campaign main story is the tutorial and you got 5 or so like guardain bosses that are a challenge and 1 super uber boss but disgaea is much a game where if your over grind out level everything than of course its no challenge. if you use the cheat shop you can make enemies stronger sooner thuse giving u more a challenge too

[@whitefox25]

i cant wait for this game tuesday

[@smugsneasel]

I didn't even know auto battle was a thing in Disgaea 6 cuz I haven't touched it. It looks...so busted. Like you, I understand the purpose and I agree that they went WAY too far.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

Yeah im fine with it in the game but when it becomes the best way to play the game its kind of silly. even mobile games have limits on auto battle

[@manwithawadjit]

disgaea 7 is like a dunk man stumbling not really an improvement over 6 but not a step back. the new auto battle is do a map in one turn get a map done free. the new item reincarnation is also to rng heavy on getting skills you want since they removed innocents like statistician. the worst part for me is the dlc and pvp locking key skills behind paywalls

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

i think the unit variety alone and the new systems work well in the game but to each their own. its still going in the right direction to me

[@HeroHero-kd5tg]

Disgaea 5 wins no contest

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

disgaea 5 is amazing but 4 is the best sorry :)

[@xbon1]

1. it's not disgaea 6 2. it still has disgaea 6 characters 3. it's an odd-number which is always better than the even-number games except in the case of dd2 but dd2 isn't even numbered.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

yeah rip disgaea 8 see you in disgaea 9 in 4 years :(

[@imortal333]

So tldr; level cap is back to 9,999, auto-battle isn't as busted and cant be used in the item world, and there are way more classes to pick from.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

thats pretty accurate and some other changes like items now have properties on them and innocents which are separate things and item reincarnation and more but yeah u get the just of it. game feels much more like d4 d5 now and thats a good thing

[@ZenKrio]

I wish people would stop counting genders as separate classes. There are really like 13-14 human classes when you take into account that Fighter, Samurai, Archer, Gunner, Mage, Armor Knight, Monk and likely more are all just two classes in that list... I wish people would stop defending them going backwards from D5. It also doesn't help that people actually like autobattles, which is essentially saying "my favorite thing about this game is not actually having to play the game a paid for". Disgaea fans have become nearly as foolish as Pokemon fans, just eating up whatever trash the company feeds them...

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

yeah i seen many poeple discredit it but i think that having 2 unique skills tied to that class and evilites and growth make it unique in its own but alot of people do not like 2 gender of the same class they say its lazy. i say more classes the better

[@ZenKrio]

@@faizedfoxgaming7426 me too, but more classes shouldn't mean gender swaps. I'd like each class to truly function differently. D5 did this quite well giving each class some skills as well as two weapons.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

yeah i do wish each class was alot more different. maybe they will be in disgaea 8

[@SpicyRess808]

Do you have any opinions for new players that know nothing at all about the previous games?

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

This is a great game to start with. Take it slow and look for guides online if u dont understand some of the games systems. it does have alot going on. But if you enjoy SRPG games or grindy games you will love this. 2 best things i can say tho is dont be afraid to grind and your units dying is good

[@supersaiyaman11589]

how can your units dying be good.like what if a character that i really wanted to use dies why is that a good thing.@@faizedfoxgaming7426

[@DarkAlkaiser]

So far, I liked 6 better than 7, finding out the DI doesn't work in the item world, the most important place for it to work is so shockingly stupid, I had to stop playing. It wasn't overpowered, if youd didn't like it, yes, you were supposed to not use it. You wanting to harm the game for other people is pretty awful of you. Learn self control. I thinik the better move would have been the literal opposite, item world works, story cannot have auto battle. The autobattle in this is VASTLY better for the user than any mobile game. You get to program your own AI, it's far far more interesting, involved, and rewarding. An option for a difficulty that didn't allow AI is another option for people who can't trust themselves not to use it, keepign it out of the item world is incompetent. The low classes were upsetting, but that was because of the art shift, which I don't like either lol but I get it.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

you can still do item world without doing it by using the item world squad it lets u do up to 10 items at once u just play the game normally and they will do the items for you so its pretty much the same but even faster

[@tablesaltgames]

I don’t understand auto battlers. What’s the point of not playing a game you buy to play 😂

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

i agree i think its the mobile phone games making people more and more lazy and they just want the game to play for them

[@cris20955105233]

Yeah i liked auto battle now i cant use it cause its takes to much gas and you only have like 300 limit 😞

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

i fiind its best to auto battle on stages u can complete in 1 or 2 turns get more value that way

[@FinalFantasyFan66666]

Honestly the only reason why I did the item world in disgaea 6 was because of the auto battle system. If I can't automate the item world then I'm probably not going to touch it because it's ridiculously boring. I might do it maybe 3 times just to get better weapons but that's it. The only complaint I had with 6 was that the character roster was way too small, it's felt like every new disgaea game has less and less characters to summon, so I'm glad they uped the verity.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

item world is tedious and if u dont like it than you dont really need to do it you can complete the whole game without touching item world and you have squads in this game that run the item world for you if u like and they complete the item as u do other things yourself

[@FinalFantasyFan66666]

@@faizedfoxgaming7426 oh, that's good to know. I'll probably opt to have the suads do it instead. I'll still have to do it a few times anyways for item duplicating and for the mystery world shop. But I'm definitely going to avoid it as much as possible.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

Yeah you can have like 10 items being run at once when u upgrade it so you can upgrade items without actually doing item world pretty cool its all passive too

[@alexlehrersh9951]

So yes the cahnges are badmaking a good game bad i will notby the shhity 7

[@alexlehrersh9951]

Dsigaia 6 is better than 4, 5 and 7

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

im glad u enjoy disgaea 6.

[@jackstrife3821]

Only thing I disagree about is the auto-battle nerf. The argument that it's optional is valid. Just don't use it. If you abuse it & become super OP and let the game beat itself, that is YOUR problem. There is nothing wrong with it being an option & I feel like they shouldn't have changed it. If some people want to play the game that way, let them. Others will avoid it like the plague...also a valid way to play. At the very least, they should have started it out nerfed (and kept the requirement to beat stages manually once) & then allowed you to upgrade it via dark assembly bills or something.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

i agree people can just not use it if they dont like it but i also think the auto battle was too good and too useful its done in other games to where its good but its not better than acutally playing the game. Auto battle in d6 was like the optimal way to play cuz of demonic intelligence and the fact it would do everything a player would. Im glad its still in disgaea 7 tho even if its on a ticket system. still has many uses for helping frind

[@MaxVisser]

The problem with it being a option you can chose not to use, is that you feel as if you have to make the game harder for yourself in a artificial way by pretending the option is not there. I think it would be good if you can turn it on or off just like you can chose a difficulty setting.

[@faizedfoxgaming7426]

yea and if and thats why if u design the game around auto battle tho its hard not to use it. Disgaea 6 felt like it was made to use auto battle just due to the huge number bloat and constant levels and numbers go up and up