3 Spray Foam Problems

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Matt Risinger

Matt Risinger

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@jasue5047
@jasue5047 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Jordan’s presentation. A refreshing add to the channel Hope to see more 👍
@mgancone
@mgancone 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! It cannot be stressed enough - installation, installation, installation! Insulation is only as good as the installation- as with most processes in construction. The gaps at the rafters are not deficiencies in the insulation- rather the installation. This contractor obviously did not care and is an easy job to pick apart. Unfortunately when it comes to insulation people only seem to care about how little they can pay. There will always be someone who will do it for less, and you end up getting what you pay for in the end. Thanks Jordan!
@MustPassTruck
@MustPassTruck 5 жыл бұрын
Sign of a good business owner. Staff trained well enough to replace them.
@crunch9876
@crunch9876 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Collier nah. What the business owner and the staff does are two different jobs.
@captainyeet2856
@captainyeet2856 5 жыл бұрын
@@crunch9876 so, owners cant train their staff? You sound dumb.
@Guardian4ever
@Guardian4ever 5 жыл бұрын
I've been spraying 2lb Sprayfoam insulation for 8 years in Canada...works great and haven't had major issues. It looks to me like he tried to spray 4" at once or was spraying too hot....you shouldn't spray thicker than 2" per pass. spraying too thick will cause the foam to 'burn ' in the middle and will kill your density and R value
@raysmith2755
@raysmith2755 5 жыл бұрын
on a side note here.... that was 1/2 lb. foam not 2lb. you can apply 1/2 lb thicker as long as your not blowing back the material. you are however correct in saying that about the 2lb foam. and on another side note.... i did the spray foam for over 10 years in the states. and none of my jobs never looked that shitty. whoever did that job was not trained properly.
@carlfrase8097
@carlfrase8097 5 жыл бұрын
Personally from my experience I think it happened to me only when it was so cold outside that when spraying..the cold reacts with the hot temperatures from the foam and makes it pull away like this... never happened with closed cell. (I’ve only been spraying for almost a year so I’m not so experienced yet! 😁)
@edwardcarberry1095
@edwardcarberry1095 5 жыл бұрын
I know little about Spray Foam , but looking at it. It looks like a lot of uneven logs( sprayed) where it does bond well to what was sprayed. I hope i have described that? Sprayed tooooo cold? Not like what I watched from Spray Foam Jones.
@mariot7403
@mariot7403 5 жыл бұрын
XL spray foam you can spray up to 8 inches open cell the closed cell is the one that you can't spray more the 4 inches but now is a lot of options of chemical that you can spray more than 4" closed cell ...you got no clue what you're talking about i been spraying since i was 22 years old im 40 now f you need to know more about foam come to north carolina the problem on this particular job is moisture you need to heat the house with all Windows open for 30 min to an hr and then closed the windows heat the house keep the heater close to the are were you going to start to spray and you never gonna have that problem..
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 4 жыл бұрын
@XL Sprayfoam Solutions, but naturally of course you going to say it’s a good product. You is the guy installing/selling it. 🙈
@Just4Ever
@Just4Ever 5 жыл бұрын
I really like that you're mentioning how products and methods will vary by climate. Keep up the excellent work, guys!
@salbalsamic6747
@salbalsamic6747 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Valentini start a foam commercial style format to the spray for the building start a foam pit to spray home house
@SidDeanDFWHomeandRanch
@SidDeanDFWHomeandRanch 5 жыл бұрын
Sticks tenaciously.... I think the master has taught grasshopper well.
@Tehcarp
@Tehcarp 5 жыл бұрын
That failure looks like application direction. Remember on your ride along foam videos the ‘operator’ (your word not mine) stayed the first shot on the 45 to the corner all the way around. Just like other sealants it’s important to have the bond into the corner and on both the sheet and the stud. Really not sure why more crews aren’t two people. Four eyes, someone to hold spray shields. The difficulty is that adhesion from the foam is from expanding into the cavity. Spray pattern is really important
@E82rover
@E82rover 5 жыл бұрын
Have been anxious to hear your thoughts of Off-Gassing and Long Term Risks of these products and what we should consider when using for our applications
@KingTesticus
@KingTesticus 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, another good question..
@grendelum
@grendelum 5 жыл бұрын
Arshaad Yar - considering these foams were developed for NASA, who has insanely strict requirements on off-gassing, it isn’t very hard to find that these foams are totally safe *_if_* used properly.
@crunch9876
@crunch9876 5 жыл бұрын
There is zero issue with off gassing if used properly
@crunch9876
@crunch9876 5 жыл бұрын
TheEarthDoctor1 sigh you made one good point. Andthat was the other point the rest are blatant lies. First off all they do not keep offgasing when mixed properly and applied properly the finished result is chemically inert. Yes they are toxic in a fire but so is cellulose and fiberglass insulation (Rockwool is not toxic in a fire, only fire rates insulation) They are no more problematic during demolition than most other construction material including plywood. The dust of fully cured spray foam isn’t even harmful (Beyond regular construction dust, cement dust and rile is much worse for your health) You say you doubt you’ll see contractors recycling the bits. And your point is?!?!?! Do you think they recycle Fiberglas insulation? No. Rockwool? No. Cellulose? No. Expanded or extruded polystyrene? No. So what’s your point? What part of construction is recyclable? I install recycle roofing, and I I’m pretty sure only about 1 percent or less of construction companies do. Or do you think anything besides metal is typically recycled in a demolition? Lol and even then it’s really only like copper. I don’t know what fantasy world you live in. Btw I don’t even install foam insulation unless specifically asked by the client or by the architects plans, I recommend Rockwool it cellulose. But I just can’t stand blatant liars with an agenda. In regard to it getting in your water supply, that is a huge problem with ALL construction debris, and that is why federal fines for construction waste getting into the water supply are typically in the $100,000’s per incident. Of course those are not enforced strictly.
@iangates8815
@iangates8815 5 жыл бұрын
i actually worked with this product . after spraying was finished we would always open windows /doors to create draft for ventilation then remove masks.
@rhubbard327
@rhubbard327 4 жыл бұрын
Great work, Matt. Your quality approach especially with an inclination to Swiss level craftmanship is admirable.
@vapeurdepisse
@vapeurdepisse Жыл бұрын
"Swiss level craftsmanship" what a ridiculous self absorbed and arrogant crap to say.
@refusoagaino6824
@refusoagaino6824 5 жыл бұрын
We went all through this in Canada in the '80s. After sealing the house up, you have to incorporate air to air heat exchangers in order to exchange all the air in the house depending on local code and circumstances. Do you have five dogs? More air changes. Under the sills we staple a "sill-plate gasket" before standing the wall up. But stick-frame should be used when you live near a sawmill. Otherwise, masonry is becoming the structural material for low rise buildings when it's thermal mass is captured inside the envelope. We have to leave the trees standing whenever possible.
@scorpio6587
@scorpio6587 5 жыл бұрын
A good "on...the Build Show" tagline at the end. Another great video by Jordan. That cup at the end was crazy. We could see the sprayer did a poor job, but that is next level. Finally, not being sarcastic, I genuinely like the word "overneath" you used. I want to work that into my lexicon.
@jenniferlawrence1372
@jenniferlawrence1372 5 жыл бұрын
I caught that too. Overneath. I also dislike "overtop" but that's a different beef I guess.
@stephendee7839
@stephendee7839 5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that you did not mention improper curing of the spray foam when it is applied improperly (too thick, usually, but a bad mix ratio could also be problematic) or outside environmental conditions for the install (too hot or too cold).
@hollyhammons2535
@hollyhammons2535 5 жыл бұрын
Rookie spraying, can't blame the foam
@christopherwarnecke4858
@christopherwarnecke4858 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@MhUser
@MhUser 5 жыл бұрын
I did internal clay plasters myself with additional sealing here or there with cheap materials but lots of attention to detail and got 0.2 average ach50; I also designed the house with air tightness and no heat bridges insulation in mind; I used 0,5 cords of beech to heat the house this winter (the heated volume of the house is about 24000 cubic feet; temperatures outside down to -4 F and 32 F average) my stove was also used to heat the domestic water and some cooking
@vapeurdepisse
@vapeurdepisse Жыл бұрын
Is it a tiny house?
@MhUser
@MhUser Жыл бұрын
@@vapeurdepisse 24k cubic feet or 650m3 not tiny
@TheRealXyzven
@TheRealXyzven 4 жыл бұрын
BEST video yet about air infiltration in a house.
@raulpenaiii7348
@raulpenaiii7348 5 жыл бұрын
I am glad you included the bit about the taco bell cup because we have all seen it. I have seen it in concrete pours.
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 5 жыл бұрын
LOL! I didn't know Taco bell made concrete additives & air sealing products. I guess that will Taco Bell restaurants take over entirely the fast food sector in a few years (reference to Demolition Man Movie)
@scorpio6587
@scorpio6587 5 жыл бұрын
@@guytech7310 nice reference. Air five.
@m.a.r.4880
@m.a.r.4880 4 жыл бұрын
I may know of a couple of buildings slabs that have Nextel's phones that would not stop alerting
@DCTrainsOfThought
@DCTrainsOfThought 10 ай бұрын
That's wild. It makes you question all of their training and credibility. Whoever drank that cup would be fired on the spot.
@bigneilh
@bigneilh 5 жыл бұрын
Love the cup! I found one full of trash in an interior wall once! Makes you feel real good that your walls have become a garbage can :) Love the pride going in these places. That alone was probably the worst thing I saw in this video!
@j_gray8642
@j_gray8642 4 жыл бұрын
Good video-if the concrete wood interface is so prone to air leakage wouldnt it be easier and better for contractors to add adhesive or caulking directly to the foundation and then lay the rim joist onto it?
@montanarealestateexperts8573
@montanarealestateexperts8573 5 жыл бұрын
Pro clima products work really well for air sealing. Contega HF works great in stud bays between studs and outside sheeting and tescon vana tape works well for flat sealing seams. They also have great membranes for interior and exterior.
@TheRockeye007
@TheRockeye007 5 жыл бұрын
a friend of mine who is no longer with us was on to all this stuff and MORE long ago.the BEST builder,piker, and song writer to ever live in my opion. r.i.p.my friend!
@amyhayslettrealtor1901
@amyhayslettrealtor1901 4 жыл бұрын
Good info. I just walked a home being built by Meritage and the foam insulation has many areas where there is 3 inches left to fill the foam to the stud and I found 2 spots with gaps large enough that I could put my hand in and touch the foam exterior lath. This might pass minimum occupancy by the city inspector but definitely not up to par. You should do a video on what the difference is between building a home to industry quality standard vs minimum occupancy vs building a quality home.
@spiderfoaminsulation9763
@spiderfoaminsulation9763 Жыл бұрын
Foam is only as good as the Installer. It can't install itself. Separate the two please!
@Peter-.H
@Peter-.H 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Jordan. Very nice and informative presentation. Thanks 👍
@jwkoeniger
@jwkoeniger 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Florida. Our spray foam installation was faulty. Our builder didn't know much about spray foam and the installer apparently didn't either. Our ACH was 30 to 40 and we had mold in our attic after a year due to HVAC duct condensation dripping onto ceiling sheet rock. Every house in our brand new development had the same problem. Spray foam is only good if it's properly installed. Problem is in finding good installers.
@jhealy3110
@jhealy3110 5 жыл бұрын
Still trying to get a read on the long-term IAQ/Building Science aspects of the foam and things like the Alumaflash adhesive given both are essentially sealed inside the envelope.
@grendelum
@grendelum 5 жыл бұрын
J Healy - NASA and every other space agency have been obsessed with off-gassing for decades so modern foams and adhesives generally don’t. There is literally an almost unlimited amount of research into these materials in the relevant journals. The effects of vented crawl spaces and other barbaric practices and the nastiness they contribute *_far_* more to the air pollution of a house.
@dailytonic5415
@dailytonic5415 5 жыл бұрын
How are you addressing vapor drive when you're using PolyWall Aluma Flash(typical rubberized asphalt backing membrane) with a Water Vapor Transmission of 0.014 perm(E96B) on the exterior and a closed cell foam on the interior? Essentially you've created a double vapor barrier that could potentially cause moisture entrapment issues. I'm surprised you didn't use a product like VaproShield WrapShield SA with a perm rating of 50(E96B) to allow rapid outward drying yet it boasts some of the best Air Permeance and Water Resistance among current available build wraps(WRB).
@cooldbz12mach1padilla
@cooldbz12mach1padilla 5 жыл бұрын
My Grandpa was a self employed contractor and he used to take me on jobs when I was 7-11 years old. I would make a small wooden box (like 2"x2") and put stuff in there like a small toy with my information and throw it in the cement he was pouring without him knowing, or Wright on the 2x4s that where going to be sealed off. or throw something in a pipe that was going to welded shut..... I just found it fascinating that one day maybe 100 year from now someone will tear up the cement, house or fence and find it. Kinda like the taco bell cup haha.
@portagepete1
@portagepete1 5 жыл бұрын
OSB looks like wet car board if it gets wet a few times this is job security for builders. Use Advantech OSB at least for the bottom 4 feet then get cheap mistint paint and paint all osb inside and out. This video shows half pound foam, all foam contractors will try to talk you into buying this because the job goes really fast, the 2 pound foam is going to cost more but a thin layer of that inside and out is the best sealer, vapor barrier and high R value and keeps the OSB from burning the house down from the built in E84 fire retardant.
@augustreil
@augustreil 5 жыл бұрын
I use 4' PT along the entire bottom of all the houses I build.
@uncareid5557
@uncareid5557 4 жыл бұрын
Does no one use sill sealer? When I was framing in the 1970's we rolled out fiberglass or foam before installing sills and shoes. One builder used caulk or adhesive instead, but that had to cost a lot more, plus the labor.
@jonnygun5055
@jonnygun5055 Жыл бұрын
A quality installer is paramount. The guy that can read the foam as it expands, sets and a few minutes later check to see if the material has destabilized. The cell structure is another tell tale sign of the quality of the install. The shrinking foam from the studs, the shallow areas, and the cup sprayed into the wall all indicate faults of the installer. Do your homework. Find a reputable company with licensed installers that are trained to use the very brand they are installing. Anyone who is worth their salt will be able to provide a much higher quality finished product than what is on display in this video.
@ScottyM1959
@ScottyM1959 5 жыл бұрын
From someone thinking about having a home built there is a lot to learn to be able to know what to ask for.
@CGoffgrid
@CGoffgrid 5 жыл бұрын
If you have any plumbing questions just hit me up on my channel. 👍
@sabianfranco1931
@sabianfranco1931 4 жыл бұрын
Just call Absolute Pro Insulation. I’ve gotten multiple blower door test with a 0.00 air flow. Pretty amazing on what the foam can do when it’s done by a Absolute Professional.
@jean-clauded5823
@jean-clauded5823 4 жыл бұрын
ZERO ACH is not safe or healthy. What your saying is a person could actually suffocate from a lack of oxygen in the house. Get a family in there, and unless someone opens a door or window, you'll get oxygen depletion in only a number of hours. If you reading zero ACH, I suspect you are doing something wrong in your testing.
@ericvanzeyl4483
@ericvanzeyl4483 5 жыл бұрын
Nice info. I will definitely apply it. Can you tell me what the R value should be when doing spray foam on your roof for a closed envelope house? I have been told 3 inches of closed cell is enough. Thanks
@edgargonzalez6044
@edgargonzalez6044 5 жыл бұрын
Eric van zeyl - I know you didn’t ask me but I can help answer the question, I do spray foam and 3 inches of close cell is going to get you an r-value of 19 to 21 depending on the brand of the foam., if it was my house I would do 4 inches of closed cell to make sure you get the r-value you need in an attic.. and 2 inches in the walls.. if is open cell you can do 3 1/2 in the walls to 5 1/2 and 5 1/2 to 8 inches in the roof, depending where you live.. thanks
@customhaines2510
@customhaines2510 5 жыл бұрын
Good information without taking an hour and a half to cover it. Well done.
@Furiends
@Furiends 5 жыл бұрын
He found the last builders trophy. XD I always find that fun. Found a wine cork stuck to a stud with a nail. Thats how you know your builders are proud! Not sure what to think of a taco bell cup haha.
@anupamsircar111
@anupamsircar111 Жыл бұрын
The US needs to learn a lot from other countries to simplify the process of building houses that are not full of volatile organic compounds, chemicals, and other synthetic stuff that turn into ash the moment they catch fire, are plain bad for your health, and, most importantly, too costly and time consuming.
@rokkinjohann
@rokkinjohann 5 жыл бұрын
You and a couple other channels have me rolled over on doing spray foam in my travel trailer build. My drawings, my welding, my drilling and riveting the Alum skin, ....... You guys rock with effective energy efficiency ideas!! My target is to heat and nightlight my trailer with a candle in mild winters here in N Tx and to use A/C only when outdoors gets above 90. Spray-in foam is the $ effective, time efficient, structural stiffener that foil laminated foamboard is not. Thanks for your perspective!
@iman-klt
@iman-klt 5 жыл бұрын
I have a house built in 1890 and it is a vertical barge board house. I replaced some of them that were rotting at the base area where the sill is. Then wrapped that with black felt paper 15# I think. then added OSB 1/2". Then used two ply aluminum bubble wrap 6' H x the run of the house overlapping by 3" (bottom first then the top of course). Then added my hearty back wood themed siding on top of that. Thoughts?
@alec4672
@alec4672 5 жыл бұрын
Basically in the simplest terms moisture such as humidity or damp lumber will cause the foam to cure faster reducing its expansion time cooler ambient temperature causes the foam to expand slower but if you get to cool it'll stop the reaction all together
@petrirantavalli859
@petrirantavalli859 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting here in Finland we use aluminum coated grooved foam sheets and then spray the gaps with foam which are then taped over with aluminum tape. Never even heard of using insulation foam like that though it makes a kind of sense if you have truck full of stuff to pump it in and not those tiny pistol cans. As for K values in this climate 4500mm of glass wool equals about 120mm of foam sheeting.
@sirenegri8288
@sirenegri8288 4 жыл бұрын
Matt. We are doing a major remodel on a early 80s brick home in FL Panhandle. Nothing between the brick and studs but thermoply. We have decided to go with sprayfoam and encapsulate the house. Should we install a fresh air pipe?
@marialysenko1609
@marialysenko1609 4 жыл бұрын
What should one do before applying spray foam to an old home? Should you check for rot/ damage before spraying? What about electrical wires and pipes? Do they need to be inspected before spraying? Is it better to not spray them and use regular batting for easy access, if repair is needed? I have no insulation under my floor. The home is lifted above flood level. Basement under the home floods once every few years.
@semionhigh1853
@semionhigh1853 5 жыл бұрын
Matt I like the many products that you show on your program, but are for the most part unavailable where I live in Northeastern Wisconsin. Primarily I'm talking about the Delta dorken products. What I need is some way to get access to these products to buy them.
@kaf2303
@kaf2303 Жыл бұрын
What effect does nailing siding through the foil wrap have? I have done several tear offs of siding on buildings with tyvek in Vermont that were 15 to 20 yrs old and found the tyvek was extremely brittle and worthless , apparently it breaks down even without uv exposure. Can’t put foil on the outside in Vt though.
@wdzimmer2987
@wdzimmer2987 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, I am curious if the cell foam on the interior acts as a vapor retardant and you apply a second vapor retardant on the exterior will there then be the possibility of an issue developing with moisture being trapped between the two vapor restrictive layers.
@metou3072
@metou3072 5 жыл бұрын
To check if its filled all you need to do is use a infrared camera/thermostat and you will be able to easily tell because of the difference in temperatures....or even poke something through it and check if the resistance stays the same until it bottoms out..then just fill the hole back in after checking
@cuylarHD
@cuylarHD 5 жыл бұрын
How does AlumaFlash affect RF devices like WiFi? It looks like you made a faraday cage. Also, with a metal roof and aluminum along the edge... what would happen with a lightning strike?
@Maybe-So
@Maybe-So 5 жыл бұрын
cuylarHD cell phone signals too?
@e3a3c3
@e3a3c3 5 жыл бұрын
i get no cellphone signal in my aluminum clad house with a metal roof.
@svenweihusen57
@svenweihusen57 5 жыл бұрын
I would shoot everyone suggesting an airseal on the cold side of the insulation. If the inside isn't airtight warm air with moisture will come to the outside where cools and releases the moisture = mold and rot. In the house I bought the roof was insulated with rockwoll with a a aluminium sheeting installed on the outside. It had a nice black and green ecosystem......
@Russeroo
@Russeroo 5 жыл бұрын
Sven Weihusen the new-breed of installer can’t grasp these simple facts.
@ouimetco
@ouimetco 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@mikakoivusaari4546
@mikakoivusaari4546 5 жыл бұрын
Is that some kind of aluminium foil on the outside? And if so, does it block cellphone reseption?
@jacobhandyside5863
@jacobhandyside5863 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, so you don't have to wear a tin foil hat around the house ;)
@georgefellow
@georgefellow 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. I wonder if a person would have to step outside you make a phone call. I work in a tin covered shop and we have horrible reception. If it's an important call I just head outside immediately. It's frustrating
@JordanSmithBuilds
@JordanSmithBuilds 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it affects cell service. Rockwool does as well. We have our A/V guy install repeaters that are wired from the outside to the inside to mitigate the issue.
@georgefellow
@georgefellow 5 жыл бұрын
That's cool man. I should look into something like that for our shop.
@elmerkilred159
@elmerkilred159 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how moisture/vapor is mitigated once you seal up a house tighter than the Virgin Mary's legs. How do you get the moisture from a bathroom out of a house after a couple of people have taken a shower? Don't tell me that a standard bathroom fan is enough to dry everything up.
@shawnhayden6674
@shawnhayden6674 5 жыл бұрын
I have been scientifically taught good spray foam acts as a vapor barrier. I know it is accepted widely in North American building to meet code and most certainly qualifies as a vapor barrier. If you deploy spray foam and then use the exterior foil membrane, you have in fact created two vapor barriers that can not breath between them. Whatever is sandwiched between the spray foam and the foil membrane will retain moisture that leads to mold and rot. Now you have a problem coming to your structure down the road. Dual vapor barriers is bad news in my experience. Most building inspectors in my area don't even know this. I have only met a handful over the years that have the education and experience to acknowledge this. That foil wrap would work proper with a loose fiber type insulation on the inside but even better: Breathable exterior sheathing over the OSB or plywood With loose batt insulation in the stud cavities Vapor barrier on the interior studs. I very rarely use spray foam insulation on any job. It has its place but under ideal building situations in new modern structures, there is no need to deploy spray foam insulation. The spray foam insulation in this KZbin video was NOT FLASH sprayed with a wet coat prior to adjusting to the deep spray passes. This video does indeed show very poor installation of spray foam. It is not acceptable to see spray foam break away from the structure to leave gaps. If it is doing so then it is done incorrectly. I hope this home does not make its inhabitants sick in the years to come.
@tommytsunami5147
@tommytsunami5147 5 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of soray foam for the cost better to do hemp Crete you get a stronger structure and it fire proof excellent insulator natural breath for humidity control insects resistant termites loced to tunnel on sprayfoam Can you please do a video on hemp Crete
@makingitthrough190
@makingitthrough190 5 жыл бұрын
Tommy Tsunami yes please. I think it should be catching on quicker than it is. Laws on growing it though might be a problem in US? Yes its labour intensive but then again a few more folk might be finding jobs that way too.
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 5 жыл бұрын
Roxul is likely better since its Hydrophobic. I presume Hemp Crete, being an organic material can absorb water leading to Rot and mold problems. Also has low R value about R-2 per inch compared to Foam & Roxul which is about R-5. Roxul recycled Slag from steel production so its green since the slag does end up in landfill. Nothing beats Roxul for fire protection.
@jeffreyquinn3820
@jeffreyquinn3820 5 жыл бұрын
@@guytech7310 If one believes the brochures, the hemp plus lime combination has some chemical stuff going on that makes it 'moisture controlling'. Also, organic & therefore a carbon sink, depending on shipping distance. However, I agree with you on Roxul. Rigid insulating or sealing materials crack if you live somewhere prone to ground shifts, but Roxul (or fibreglass) with poly bends with building movement and keeps the thermal barrier intact. It's a lot of work with accoustical sealant and tape to get a really good seal with poly, but it lasts if you do it right.
@twmd
@twmd 5 жыл бұрын
@@guytech7310 Hempcrete follows a different building design principle but has gained momentum in the restoration of old buildings which were deigned to be breathable and use lime mortar and renders. Cement, gypsum, vapour barriers and waterproof creams have caused rot and mold problems when applied to old houses because they trap water in the masonry. Lime+ hemp if done correctly has excellent humidity/condensation buffering and is naturally mould resistant due to its high alkalinity. If you are using hempcrete for new build then it can be used to create a full thickness wall which provides not only insulation throughout the wall but also thermal mass. No material is 100% the best solution for all situations but hempcreta has many advantages if you go beyond R value.
@tommytsunami5147
@tommytsunami5147 5 жыл бұрын
@@makingitthrough190 best way to keep the young student in shape for summer time jobs
@waynemiller1609
@waynemiller1609 5 жыл бұрын
Matt another issue is fishing wiring after the sheetrock is installed to add an outlet, switch or data cables,a real electricians nightmare!!!
@ralphbruno5534
@ralphbruno5534 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the fact that now that branch circuits and especially home runs, are totally encased in foam, you have now derated the ampacity of the wirethat no one ever addresses
@waynemiller1609
@waynemiller1609 5 жыл бұрын
Wow your right, I didnt even consider that,I wonder if theres a derating table in the latest National Electric Code?
@sscollantes63
@sscollantes63 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jordan,great content! Did ya’ll put the allumaflash because the osb was already there? Would you have gone with zip and tape if ya’ll had done it from the beginning? About to start building a home and trying to get as much knowledge as I can once I get with my builder. Thanks so much!
@Swift2120
@Swift2120 5 жыл бұрын
I don't see a reply to your question let me know if they ended up replying to it I had the exact same question
@SaiaArt
@SaiaArt 4 жыл бұрын
What I don’t like about it is that it is impossible to snake a romex through the wall at a later date... such as adding wall sconces or something like that.
@johansson6493
@johansson6493 4 жыл бұрын
If it was done in stages, like foam the edge of the studs and panels first, all the way around,, the installer can check for proper adherence, then complete the first two inches all the way around, allowing time for the foam to cure. Then do the next two inches?. Of course the installer should occasionally review the manufactures manual to make sure he is following the manufactures current best practice directions.
@insulationairtightness834
@insulationairtightness834 5 жыл бұрын
Basically just get a good spray foam job done by am experienced contractor and you save money on additional works.
@reidcrosby6241
@reidcrosby6241 5 жыл бұрын
One large problem for rural folks around the country is that it is likely there is only one (or none) spray foam contractors in their area. I have had friends living rurally do there own foam jobs...given the tendency for "mispray, mis-mix, humidity issues" I find that proposition scary! Rock wool self installed for me. R
@Serialkoala
@Serialkoala 5 жыл бұрын
I usually just clench to keep my air from exfiltrating.
@ribri02
@ribri02 5 жыл бұрын
Matt, more videos with Jordan. I like the no bullshit approach. Keep em coming!
@AlexA-tl6kg
@AlexA-tl6kg 3 жыл бұрын
omg please take over for risinger... your videos are so much better
@ShiningSakura
@ShiningSakura 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I refuse to use spray.... too much can go wrong. Spaces, hiding things inside, off gassing, pain in the rear to renovate....etc... I don't care about the craze, I will get the usual insulation fiberglass or other similar products. if it needs fixing or moving it can.
@Dino_Buk
@Dino_Buk 5 жыл бұрын
I think many people will start to suffer because of that foam. It is hard to understand why people nowadays agree to have something so risky in their homes. Same as it was with the asbestos where people were also told that it was completely safe if installed properly. And also with the lead paint that it was completely safe if painted and maintained properly.
@ericgladson5063
@ericgladson5063 5 жыл бұрын
Dino B. There’s foam in more things than just our homes. Look around you!! Chairs, couches, seats in your car. You can’t use filthy fiberglass for stuff like that.
@MrTurridu
@MrTurridu 5 жыл бұрын
If using Poly Wall's Aluma flashing , I am guessing the perm rating on that product is super low, as in almost 0? Thus the wall has to be designed to dry to the interior. You should mention that. A wall assembly has to be designed to insure no failures. So before you start wrapping your house in this stuff, make sure the wall is thoughtfully designed to function appropriately. Nice vid, Matt looks different?
@sethc9928
@sethc9928 5 жыл бұрын
any thoughts about the osb trapped between 2 vapor closed surfaces?
@kaasgaafnl
@kaasgaafnl 5 жыл бұрын
It appears to me that a lot of houses in America are built from wooden studs and OSB plating. Why don't you use double brick walls with isolation in between? That's a lot stronger building method with a very high isolation value. Especially with all the big storms in some areas of America that appears a lot more durable building method. I've never seem full wall spray foam isolation on this side of the ocean. In old houses where there wasn't any isolation originally, normally rock wool or glass wool or PIR foam plates isolation is being used.
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m 5 жыл бұрын
Silly questions?. Why is the wall baseplate not bedded on silicone caulk? Why would you not seal over the inside with polythenes sheet under the drywall?
@mb-fs1yo
@mb-fs1yo 4 жыл бұрын
I am curious as to what would be a good barrier/ wrap for here in northern Kansas, we see summer temperatures in the 110F area and winter temperatures as low as -20 F. We can also see 60 mph winds with the storms we have and often see 30 mph winds without storms.
@jefffinney6806
@jefffinney6806 5 жыл бұрын
Do you use the blue product on the bottom side of the bottom plate during a new build? Or do you just use it to seal the joint from the plate to the concrete? If that is the case and you don't use it under the plate, what do you use? Thanks for the great videos!
@colinstu
@colinstu 5 жыл бұрын
man if they stuck a tacobell cup in there just imagine all the other jerkoff things they did to that home. I feel bad for the owners.
@nicpedia2432
@nicpedia2432 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's one thing to hire a crew that doesn't pick up after themselves...another thing when they throw their trash IN YOUR WALL. Holy crap, those people need taken to the malpractice agency and scolded.
@whiskey4553
@whiskey4553 5 жыл бұрын
I was working on a house and found a beer bottle in the wall, no joke. It explained a lot.
@thomassteele-sheets7471
@thomassteele-sheets7471 5 жыл бұрын
I found porno mags from the year I was born under the vanity in a bathroom I was remodeling once.
@troyb3394
@troyb3394 5 жыл бұрын
@@thomassteele-sheets7471 I've been doing work on my house and when I air sealed and reinsulated my attic I found what I like to call the previous owners "sin stash". I think the wife was fairly religious, and so stashed in the old attic insulation was a paper bag of porn from the 70's, beer bottle caps, and a box of Twinkies.
@thomassteele-sheets7471
@thomassteele-sheets7471 5 жыл бұрын
@@troyb3394 were those twinkies still any good? It could definitely bring closure to that twinkies never go bad debate. And these were from 87 at my house.
@cargogh
@cargogh 5 жыл бұрын
That was a very good video full of information.
@svenweihusen57
@svenweihusen57 5 жыл бұрын
If you like mold and rot: yes. Making a house airtight on the outside of the insulation is a really stupid idea. Even the holes in the insulation of the original house would be better because the moisture could evaporate over time. The sealing will keep it indefinitely between the frames.
@cargogh
@cargogh 5 жыл бұрын
Sven, I keep thinking about the house as a glass jar that I hold to my mouth and exhale into. The moisture starts collecting. You are correct. Giving credit to my expectations of that foil wrap, there's no way the interior will match the seal of the exterior. A boiled pot of water without the exhaust hood on, the same with a shower, a window left open during a rain, plumbing or roof leaks, or daily living--the house is soon a mushroom without moisture exhausting mechanicals. If the electricity goes out, a generator fails, or any component of the air exchange system goes out, let the mold begin.
@KingTesticus
@KingTesticus 5 жыл бұрын
Any expertise regarding spray foaming the interior of a school bus conversion? My searches on spray foam for that project led me here and your information is so concentrated it's apparent you have WAY more in your head. What are your thoughts in terms of flex (the bus twists laterally a bit when going over bumpy roads) and the relationship between metal surfaces and spray foam. Thank you, thumbs up :-)
@reidcrosby6241
@reidcrosby6241 5 жыл бұрын
That stuff is likely to create MORE rigidity in my humble opinion. It sticks like glue, and with the amount of surface area contact it is likely to create a completely rigid end product even if some of the adhesion fails....and I am not sure that's a bad thing. You want the increased R value for such a project. R
@coreydeptuch7735
@coreydeptuch7735 5 жыл бұрын
We spray Van's and cargo trailers all the time, never once had an issue or call back. The spray foam will dramatically improve the structural strength and will also make it more quiet too.
@johnspence2466
@johnspence2466 5 жыл бұрын
Would fire and ice do a good job as house wrap
@BallardsTube
@BallardsTube 5 жыл бұрын
FishOntv I’ve wondered this as well for a Northern Wisconsin Cabin we plan to build. It definitely “sticks tenaciously” ;) Only problem I was expecting was the thickness at windows and doors may be a little bit of an issue.
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion too costly and time consuming. Best option is to buy the ZIP sheathing and use the ZIP tape. Its going to take considerable effort to peal and stick the membrane to all the exterior surfaces, and you cannot apply it to the OSB unless the OSB is absolutely dry (might be OK if you in a arid location, but not so nice in area that gets lots of rain.).
@augustreil
@augustreil 5 жыл бұрын
FishOntv, Yes. Just use plywood and not OSB. Use a liquid flashing around the window, door jams.
@rafaelbaca4923
@rafaelbaca4923 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you tell me what goes after Poly Wall® Aluma Flash (black paper whit wire and stucco?)
@captainofiron
@captainofiron 4 жыл бұрын
Have you guys ever done retro fit foam inside of existing walls in old houses?
@MegaCb45
@MegaCb45 5 жыл бұрын
First, the open cell that's in the walls is different than closed cell ,which would be the better choice when it comes to spray foam. Closed cell has added structure strength and superior R value but with added cost. 2nd, canned foam and two part spray foam are very different animals. So the broad brush of the video title is a little misleading. 3rd, any probably my biggest gripe, is that the foam contractor that did this job puts all other foam contractors in a poor light. Simple things like air sealing around truss heels and soffit blockers is easy but the extra time and labor to someone that is already lazy is a recipe for what happened here. ( a cup foamed over in the wall...wtf!) Foam is a very specialized trade, many many things need to be watched and taken into account. From substrate, material and ambient temps, proper pressure of the foam type being sprayed, humidity of both air and substrate etc etc. We are manufacturing polyurethane on site, so everything needs to be monitored in order to make perfectly mixed inert plastic. Remember this the next time you look for the lowest bidder.
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. Strong reasons to avoid spray foam. Unless the Foam guy is really good, your end up with problems. The other issue is with closed cell if you need to repair work or remodeling work in the future. Good luck trying to snake a cable or fix a plumbing leak in a closed-cell spray foam. Open cell is a moisture-water problem. You might as well just stick a wet sponge in your walls. One plumbing leak or exterior water leak and your screwed. I am sure the repair contractors love when a homeowner has to spend 3 or 4 times for a repair because of spray foam.
@MegaCb45
@MegaCb45 5 жыл бұрын
@@guytech7310 , Im advocating for using skilled professional spray foam installers. The issues you listed are difficult with spray foam but not unique to its use.
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 5 жыл бұрын
@@MegaCb45 Yup, but for every good pro there are a dozen that just wing it. So you got a 1 in 12 chance of finding a quality installer. I don't like odds stacked against me. FWIW: I 've also read about instances when the spray foam was not mixed correctly and the foam never fully cured. Home owners had to completely remove walls & roofs because the SF never fully cured. What a nightmare!
@augustreil
@augustreil 5 жыл бұрын
@@guytech7310, Yeah about 7 cases that has happened. It doesn't occur as much as you think it does.
@MegaCb45
@MegaCb45 5 жыл бұрын
@@guytech7310, There's a reason top of the line refrigerators ,water heaters, coolers etc use foam...one of the best insulators available. Negligence runs rampant in any trade...
@Gaborkik
@Gaborkik 5 жыл бұрын
You guys put the foam between studs, but those studs cause a lot of thermal bridges, aren't you worried about them ?
@fujifame1
@fujifame1 5 жыл бұрын
Yep! Many builders are moving to 24" OC rather than 16"OC, it reduces those bridges by nearly 25%. Also, in many climates, we use exterior insulation to blanket the home.
@artbygerens3106
@artbygerens3106 5 жыл бұрын
Studs have there own r value that ,In UK, is combined in calcs to give an over all U value usually very small difference, air test makes lot more difference, in one of Matt's other videos he shows solid wood walls in Europe that perform comparably to insulated walls, just more expensive
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 5 жыл бұрын
Most new homes have continuous exterior insulation. Near the end of Jordan's video he show the home with 2" Rigid foam insulation. They use a foil backed foam board to seal up the walls since the contractor did a very poor job with the sheathing sealing. Cheaper to just seal up the foam than to redo all the sheathing work.
@andydaddy2009
@andydaddy2009 4 жыл бұрын
so you leave the studs exposed and the cold travels right thru the wood ..no thermal breaks there..?
@tamaraoleksiuk1128
@tamaraoleksiuk1128 3 жыл бұрын
I actually learned a lot! With so many people talking out there,, He was easy to listen to. why do I believe him?? - well he sounds like he knows what he is talking about LOL I LOVE that he gives the whole WHY/HOW- cuz I'd be asking!!! But I believe what he is saying is true b/c he can explain it simply. ☆☆It helps that he isn't hard to look at 🌞
@tigerider1663
@tigerider1663 4 жыл бұрын
Does spray foam repel or soak up moisture?
@haskellXR
@haskellXR 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos discussing spray foam chemical failures and how to make sure that the contractor is using the correct mixture? I have read stories of spray foam causing fumes and horrible odors when not proper. A video about this would be great.
@jdelacruz6854
@jdelacruz6854 5 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the previous contractor doing the insulation? They need to be outed
@coltonarendt
@coltonarendt 5 жыл бұрын
they should but Matt and his team are too respectable to do that which i commend them on
@sma11
@sma11 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how many polyiso jobs you've hired out but I've had to fix air leaks in every single job I've ever done. It's very difficult to get 100 percent sealing. It boils down to this, if the rework you're inevitably going to do is too extensive and your contractor is not improving his quality, you have to move on to another company. It really comes down to the guy on the gun. If he can't be bothered to do what is expected, he's losing his company my business. I've had to switch contractors and I must say, the norm in thirs area for spray jobs is not great quality for price.
@mikeRadamz
@mikeRadamz 5 жыл бұрын
@@coltonarendt Nobody should be commended on hiding the names of lazy ASS _ _ _ _ _ who depend on their next victims not knowing. Foaming a cup into the wall??? The reason I take offence is because years ago, while helping an electrician friend on a few houses in new sub-division, we found that some of the houses had a bad odour in them; we learned from sub-contractors, that before the drywall was up, some workers were actually cutting vapour barriers and peeing into the insulation, then taping it back up because they were too lazy to go outside and use the porta-potties. I still get disgusted when I remember that! Pardon the pun, but, you let crappy people get away with stuff and they get shittier.
@jdelacruz6854
@jdelacruz6854 5 жыл бұрын
Chanting out them out, out them out , out them out 😀 by popular demand
@johansson6493
@johansson6493 4 жыл бұрын
Air barrier vapor open product for colder climates on the outside. That new AeroBarrier product would it seal that large crack?. Could you do it before the drywall was in place? Seems like Less cleanup?. Or is the stuff a brittle cake product and needs some rigidity of everything close to being finished. Is it hydro-curing product?.
@machshau87
@machshau87 5 жыл бұрын
Any tips for drywall removal from spray foam? Our house had the entire roof insulated with spray foam to save on energy costs several years before we bought it. As part of a chimney demo we are nearly finished completing, we needed to remove the drywall from the ceiling so that new drywall can be installed in the next month. The original vapor barrier sheeting was removed prior to spray foam insulation, and as a result the spray foam stuck to the drywall. Because this seems to be a new problem(and therefore no tools for it), our best solution was using paint scrapers and hammers to chisel it off the spray foam. We managed to get all the drywall off the ceiling this way, but since this is something we will need to fix in the rest of the house, maybe a tool can be created for this by then. :) The only other solution seems to be to cut out the spray foam insulation and drywall all at once, but we aren't wanting to do that for quite a while, at which point we will completely be rebuilding the roof.
@Matt-bg6kf
@Matt-bg6kf Жыл бұрын
Heat gun
@jerrykinnin7941
@jerrykinnin7941 5 жыл бұрын
When using spray foam in new construction. Especially when using the thicker studs. 2x6 and up. Would it be to our advantage to run All electric thru conduit for future ease of repair?
@CGoffgrid
@CGoffgrid 5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@tcthetford
@tcthetford 2 жыл бұрын
Got to talk about insulation and air infiltration prevention! Ted
@de98rk
@de98rk 5 жыл бұрын
Great channel! Any spray foam/sealing tips; specifically for an older, all wood, home?
@elbuggo
@elbuggo 5 жыл бұрын
Have a look at Knauf Ecoseal: _Air sealing with spray-on caulking_ - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZOUhGZmqNdod7M
@geronsingh2720
@geronsingh2720 5 жыл бұрын
Guys, can you make some videos on proper bathroom tile installation with waterproofing techniques please?
@Kev7ing
@Kev7ing 5 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with allowing the house to breath? A builder I know says the houses are too tight now and are getting moldy
@Bostonski
@Bostonski 5 жыл бұрын
Your builder buddy didn't learn about ventilation i guess
@Bostonski
@Bostonski 5 жыл бұрын
Any place will get moldy if subject to eleveted moisture levels.
@D_pawson
@D_pawson 5 жыл бұрын
Why dont you lads use PIR insulation boards??
@alexxxg310
@alexxxg310 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm a commercial contractor and recently purchased a 2019 Mercedes Sprinter Van. I need to insulate and panel the interior walls prior to setting up the custom shelving for the kind of work we do. None of the van outfitters in my area can answer this question.... "Is it OK to use closed cell spray foam insulation in a van? The typical materials used in my area are rigid Polystyrene or Foil faced Bubble wrap. I'm looking for the best possible insulation solution that won't create any moisture/ mold issues down the road. Any thoughts???
@NightSky777
@NightSky777 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Product tips and fyi on Spray foam application issues!
@rick9031
@rick9031 5 жыл бұрын
So if you spray between the rafters can the vents on roof be eliminated?
@MrKornnugget
@MrKornnugget 5 жыл бұрын
I am just going to seal myself into a zip lock bag.
@luckyqualmi
@luckyqualmi 5 жыл бұрын
Why? Using tons of spray foam is more fun I heard ... ;)
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555 5 жыл бұрын
Was just asking about the pulling away from studs as you started to explain. So just what are the parameters... Dry studs, adjustment for humidity, etc... Or should a homeowner just call the manufacturer and get parameters him/herself? Also .... what is a reasonable limit for the amt of verification that a homeowner could put onto his/her contractor. 1. Air tests .... @ what point @ what values 2. Insulation ... if foamed thickness etc ... 3. Electrical ... though code does alot of keeping this good 4. HVAC ... proper sizing / proper ducting etc
@SOGCaptain
@SOGCaptain 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the answers to these. Consider a homeowners milestone checklist video please
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 5 жыл бұрын
Simple answer: Use Roxul instead. No worries about spray foam issues period!
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555 5 жыл бұрын
@@SOGCaptain Checklist would be good ... but better IMO would be listed / spelled out in the contract prior to building started so that a builder would know that he/she has a customer that just won't accept any ole BS. and that the customer can feel free to say your work is good .... or ... hey you and I agreed to "X" and not the "x" you've tried to pass off. I'd say that building inspections would catch stuff ... but ... I know of newly built ( well when I bought a spec house ) that code as not followed on some "visible" stuff and yet the house passed inspection. So building inspectors can be good ... however, I think I'd hire one to be thorough.
@fathom73
@fathom73 5 жыл бұрын
All the outgassing from all the adhesives, foams, glue in osb is really high... even 10 years later. My next project will be a stainless yeti house if I don't get poisoned first.
@darrenadams9782
@darrenadams9782 5 жыл бұрын
wonder why cancer numbers are skyrocketing, that house will never be safe to live in because after the outgassing you have exposure to the breakdown of those products
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 5 жыл бұрын
Darren Adams Cancer numbers are not skyrocketing.... I would love to see you try to provide proof but I know enough to not hold my breath lol. Cancer has actually been on a rather steady decline since the early 90s, what’s impressive is that this is despite constant and huge advances in cancer detection and identification! We saw a rapid climb in detection through the middle and alter 1/3 of the law century but that’s largely due to advancing technology making diagnoses possible for more people earlier. It may look like there’s more cancer around than when you were young but remember that with advancing technology comes more refined definitions. There are more known specific types of cancer today, but only because those cancers were either not diagnosed or incompletely diagnosed tue to a lack of tools and knowledge.
@Dasbaueichselbst
@Dasbaueichselbst 5 жыл бұрын
It is really sick 😷 ....I never ever would sleep in a house build like this. Cheap trash materials.
@chrisfoxwell4128
@chrisfoxwell4128 5 жыл бұрын
@@DrewLSsix , www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/research/articles/cancer_2020.htm
@ericgladson5063
@ericgladson5063 5 жыл бұрын
Das baue ich selbst! So sleep in a house with fiberglass filtering the air cycling in the wall cavity.
@YIQUANONE
@YIQUANONE 9 ай бұрын
Looks like you have walls that don't have any permeability, hope you don't have any moisture in the house to get into the walls, it could cause big problems depending on where you are located. I remember 20 years ago they used to use a layer over stucco called dryvit, which was waterproof. A few years later they discovered houses rotting underneath because the dryvit would not let the walls dry out.
@MrEdwardhartmann
@MrEdwardhartmann 5 жыл бұрын
It seems like the Aluma Flash would have the same problem that the stucco wall had that held in all the moisture because it did not breath and then caused the siding and studs to rot. How is that prevented?
@bigblackron
@bigblackron 5 жыл бұрын
its a southern climate. the vapor barrier should be on the outside so the wall can dry toward the inside. if this house is finished with stucco. the wall should be furred out first to allow ventilation behind the stucco.
@jackfrost-fu7hz
@jackfrost-fu7hz 5 жыл бұрын
From what I could see, the window sills look level, you had other videos saying how they need to be on angle with a pan and the bottom flange of the window near the end of the vidoe does not look like it was shimmed away from the wall. If you are going to talk about spray foam at least let people know there are diffrent types, open cell versus closed cell.
@dh66
@dh66 5 жыл бұрын
You don't like the foam under the footer but praise some blue dyed caulking. Is there some kind of proof that it won't shrink, dry or crack? Is the footer foam rated well enough for many years of dead loads and heat cycling, moisture movement, etc?
@justinrrizzo
@justinrrizzo 4 жыл бұрын
What about if I live in Indiana with both hot/humid and cold winters? Which of those wraps are better?
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