3 Things About "Groundhog Day" (1993) You Never Realized

Ever wonder how many days Phil spends in the time loop? In this episode, I discuss the movie "Groundhog Day" (1993) with Bill Murray. If you have any recommendations for another movie, please let me know in the comments or by message. Thanks!

[@no-bozos]

One of the best movies ever made. Hilarious, dark, depressing and uplifting all at the same time. Brilliant, simply brilliant.

[@mike73ng]

Have you seen Pleasantville?

[@no-bozos]

@@mike73ng - Good movie

[@hugolafhugolaf]

Mr. Destiny is somewhat similar.

[@dustinlerch9272]

And due to earnings no longer counting residual streams like DVD release, movies like this one will never be made again.

[@nedrini1055]

I agree. It’s in my top three of all time.

[@DarthAverage]

They should announce a sequel to "Groundhog Day" .... and then just re-release the original! ;-)

[@Matt-nm7xq]

You win the internets...but just for today

[@shumandaniele]

I see what you did there, Matt.

[@mikewagner8157]

That is demented...I love it!

[@randomcommenter494]

And then again for today. And again...

[@kekistanihelpdesk8508]

DarthAverage genius

[@jameschamp1406]

I bet life was weird for him after that time loop ended. Imagine. He went 30+ years never having to worry about any consequences whatsoever. I can imagine it would have given him anxiety for the first few months knowing that anything that happens can't be erased. For example for 34 years he didn't have to fear death. Now that he's no longer in the time loop he does have to fear it for the first time in 34 years.

[@PerthScienceClinic]

Imagine trying to remember your old PINs, addresses, friends...

[@abbyhillman769]

He still didn't fear death, even after the loop ended, because he had already lived several full lifetimes. The only people who fear death are people who haven't lived a good life.

[@PerthScienceClinic]

@@abbyhillman769 I think you can have lived a good life and still fear death, if only because you'll stop doing good for the world. Besides, in this case, he had so many cool skills AND a desire to help others... Who wants to stop that?

[@nirfz]

Not just that it can't be erased, for a long time then he got used to exactely knowing what's going to happen. And suddenly that's no longer the case. In the repeating day, he became the "master of everything" and could concentrate on one good decision after another and try out what's good and what's not. And suddenly that's not the case anymore. And his day was rather "comfortable", imagine the day he had to repeat for years would be one where he gets injured and has to cope with a lot of pain... @abbyhillman769: 34 years aren't several full lifetimes if you go by the average age a human on this planet reaches in the western world. And his options reliving that same day are very limited compared to actual 34 years of life.

[@5uper5kill3rz]

Also surely he’d fear it Happening again? every single night he’d be terrified to go to sleep in case everything is undone

[@ClemsonTiger75]

Not only have I seen this movie, I have seen it for 30-40 years as I keep waking up each day and watching it again.

[@Cartilog-z4f]

Nice.

[@DH-pz7bc]

I’ve seen this movie many times and it never gets old.

[@fgoindarkg]

Sounds like you're stuck in your own ground hog day.

[@stereoscope360v6]

I love this film, I've seen it over a hundred times.

[@elmoblatch9787]

incorrect

[@johnpotter8039]

I met Harold Ramis at La Guardia Airport in 1998. We were both heading up to the American Airlines Club to wait out a 4-hour ground hold. We had mutual friends, and spent the time in conversation. I finally asked the question- "How long was Phil Connor trapped in Groundhog Day?" His answer was "56 years". This explains everything.

[@Mrius86]

Groundhold Day

[@johnpotter8039]

Bravo

[@jollygoodfellow3957]

Source: I made it the f up.

[@VITAS874]

Not good for L

[@footofjuniper8212]

It dawned on me that when Phil rushes past the fat guy in the hall, and rushes out the door without talking to the landlady (day 3?), he would have been way earlier than Ned at the corner. The fact that Ned was right there as always lends credence to the theory that Ned himself is trapped in a time loop, and the only way out is to sell Phil insurance.

[@TheT0nedude]

We will proceed to the next day whether we are ready for it or not and whether any self imposed criteria are satisfied or not. That's the time it takes for the Earth to rotate once on its axis, it has nothing to do with any one of us AT ALL. This is just a fictional, fantastic (but enjoyable) film, nothing more....

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Tenderfoot Prepper Or make sweet, sweet love to Ned right there on the street.

[@gredangeo]

How about this to really fuck with things. We all experience a Groundhog Day at some point in our lives, maybe multiple times, could be hundreds. The catch is, as soon as we figure out what we had to do, our entire memory is reset, and we proceed to the next day assuming everything is normal.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

*gredangeo* Then how come I'm not a great piano player?

[@gredangeo]

I said your memory is erased, you have no recollection of all your previous days you were spent in the loop. Our only sense of true time is with our memory. With no recollection, it didn't happen. Something similar happens when we sleep. Hours feel like seconds in that state of mind.

[@PopExpo]

40 years of that day. It would drive me crazy that I can save everyone in that town on that day except for the old homeless man. I remember thinking how profound that scene was the first time I watched it, even as a kid.

[@reh3884]

It wasn't 40 yrs.

[@jamesjustice8711]

@@reh3884 how long was it

[@monochromatic9601]

@@jamesjustice8711 unknown, I believe. Some sources say it was estimated to be only 10 years, Some wager it was 33 years and some change. And a select few say it's been 10,000.

[@jebes909090]

@@monochromatic9601 i think 10 years is probably the most resonable answer. people saying 10 000 years have no idea how that would absolutely destroy him.

[@pablolongobardi7240]

​@@monochromatic9601so, average 40 years

[@TheCleaner76]

One summer I met these 2 girls down the beach and we went back to my place 😉 I'd be happy to relive that day over and over again 😎

[@nabla41]

He said something similar the 3rd day with alcoholic men

[@ryanspengler4877]

Here's something you REALLY never realized: When the nurse gives Phil the news that the old man died and that "sometimes people just die," look in the background. You'll see a kid in a jacket with crutches and a cast on his leg. It's the same kid that falls out of the tree. "You never thank me!" Neat, eh?

[@midassnap9028]

Good one Ryan I'll be watching for that on my next viewing which will probably be number 110.

[@ManfredvanDoorn]

Thanks Ryan, now that IS new to me after watching it so many times..

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

Good eye, Ryan! It's like the second or third time I saw Back to the Future part 3 where I noticed that Claire was in the background waiting to be picked up at the station. We love our details, don't we?

[@NJtoTX]

So he didn't save the kid that day, or maybe every day after never being thanked.

[@reapersden]

JustWasted3HoursHere who is claire ?

[@toordal]

"Ned Ryerson" was a salesman who is incentivized to contact as many people as possible. He recognized "Phil" from a distance. That didn't require "Phil" to be at an exact location. He could've been off by a few feet or seconds and Ned Ryerson could still have the same interaction with him.

[@cmonman7664]

But what if Phil decided to play with himself each morning in bed for 10 minutes? He would have never seen Ned on the street each day 😂

[@sabatheus]

One of the finest films ever made, and it's in my top 5. Rest in peace Harold Ramis.

[@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music]

What are the rest of the five?

[@sabatheus]

@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music Predator, Aliens, The Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings (I count all three as one xD), and Galaxy Quest (had to throw a comedy in there)

[@stevenrobert8567]

It is a classic. Great movie. Not going to find great movies like this one today.

[@stevenrobert8567]

@@Nomen.Monniker Planes, Trains & Autos, a great comedy. One of the best ever.

[@mikilynne4558]

As time goes by, Groundhog Day becomes more legendary. The sheer genius of the premise and deeply rooted love story are a cinematic treasure. The writing is the best part. A true masterpiece!

[@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music]

It's the only film that I watch again, and again, and....

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music Silence of the Lambs is in that category for me.

[@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music]

@@AbbeyRoadkill1 Is it a good date movie and do you eat dinner before or after?

[@yyyo03]

I like to think that it was thousands of years that he spent reliving the same day. We didn't really get to see his darkest days. I'm sure poor Ned Ryerson ended up in a dumpster more than a few times. Am I right? Am I right or am I right?

[@Tomartyr]

I don't think you can do that Hans. I mean is he dead or is he dead?

[@adjuster57]

Ahhhh. You are more correct than this video is. In the book, this went on for approximately 10,000 years, and as you might imagine, it was not a comedy. The insanity went deeper and deeper. It was NOT a happy ending.

[@Hans293]

Ugh. This is the nightmare scenario for a mild-mannered budding serial killer. Dead people should stay dead!

[@davidwuhrer6704]

I didn't know there was a book.

[@bobsnow6242]

The fact that Phil considers his conundrum to be depressing and hellish indicates that, despite being a miserable selfish asshole, he's still a good person deep down. A time loop with no consequences would be a sociopath's heaven. The worst we see him do is drive drunk and kill a big rodent. Imagine the sort of ways a serial killer or rapist or cannibal could keep himself entertained for decades on end.

[@bosunhiggs9708]

Can you imagine what it was like to edit this movie-with multiple takes of any scene, plus scripted variations?

[@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239]

Bosun Higgs that's why they have a thing called a Clapboard and they keep detailed records of which cut they want to use. That ol ... Action makes cutting simple. Clap Boards have the scene and the take written on them. Then when the director likes a scene they write it down in a log.

[@trainliker100]

Yes. But getting all the takes at one time makes continuity easy. The continuity person doesn't have to worry so much about if everything is as it should be. Because nothing (hopefully) was moved or changed take to take.

[@ellisgreen6615]

Can you imagine what it was like to be a swing in Groundhog Day the Musical, playing matinee and evening performances in different tracks? Whilst finding your marks on 5 turning revolves.

[@dirkhaar2243]

It was intended to be a 3 hrs movie, but then: First Assistant Editor: "Oh, there were several duplicate scenes, I dumped them..." Director: "?" FAE: "Fired?"

[@donaldduck830]

@@trainliker100 And that attitude is why we got Harry Potter's scar switching sides and why we got a starbucks cup in the last season of GoT. For continuity (and editing this movie) you need discipline better than half the USMC, and those are very well disciplined dudes.

[@tychophotiou6962]

The producer said on the main DVD that the Bhuddhist idea is that we need to repeat something 10, 000 times to become a master. So I always assumed he was in the loop for 10,000 days which is approx 30 years. Time enough to learn fluent french, learn to play piano well, learn to ice sculpt and discover that living selflessly is more rewarding than being an egocentric jerk.

[@digitalcurrents]

He had 34 years to figure out how to fix the hotel's hot water heater... and he never did.

[@TuneStunnaMusic]

He woke up every day clean, he didnt need to shower. At least I hope he didnt wake up every day with BO for 34 years.

[@Krossfire623]

If he fixes it the "next day" it would still be broken.

[@Krossfire623]

@Everstruggling 2 different pipes. One could be frozen while the other isnt. Also the hot water heater could be broken and frozen which causes the hot water in those sets of pipes to freeze. Guessing you don't work in the construction field of any kind.

[@squirlmy]

@Everstruggling there's a lot of irony in stretching out the answers to a simple joke, but... he said the water HEATER is frozen, not hot or cold water PIPES. I expect this might have happened back when places had water heaters powered by the same coal furnace, or coal-converted-to-oil-furnace that heated the dwelling: if the furnace didn't stay hot enough, the water in the tank could freeze. It does seem more likely something was actually malfunctioning, maybe the furnace itself. Although I don't want to speculate further on a totally fictional movie!!!

[@carlsaganlives5112]

@Everstruggling Pretty sure your average Hollywood screenwriter isn't too mechanically inclined. I notice things like that in movies all the time.

[@PeterSedesse]

If there is some magic that caused him to repeat each day, then it is not improbable that the same magic stages every encounter for him. He can never be late for anything because every event is synchronized for him to be there at the same moment each day.

[@edandmjohnson8636]

you got it.

[@apocalypticdaze2139]

Welcome to Westworld

[@SteadFast411]

Yeah and no, given the range of people he encounters throughout the film, some drop into the film, some drop out, irrespective of Phil's interaction with them. What IS interesting though, is almost everyone seems to run into a bad fate. The little kid, for instance, is seen to injure himself IF Phil doesn't show up. So he falls whether Phil even goes past the tree or not, as on that day Phil seemingly spent all his time with the homeless old man. My takeaway isn't that everything is synchronized for Phil to run into at the right time, but that everything is magically set up for him to help with a problem, SHOULD he come across it.

[@Trainwheel_Time]

Yeah no. If that were the case he would be doing exactly the same thing everyday and as we clearly see in the film, he does not do the same thing everyday.

[@jimsjacob]

People have always looked at me funny when I told them this was one of my favorite movies. I didn’t understand why, but I just liked it. A lot…. Watch it every year around the holidays because it resonated with me. Good to see that some said it was one of the more spiritual movies of our time, so it makes sense now as to why I liked it.

[@SeattlePioneer]

Haven't you noticed that you are in a time loop?

[@jimsjacob]

@@SeattlePioneer Nah... The mirror tells me I'm not. 😂

[@bboycomedyhd]

I could watch this movie 🎥 EVERYDAY and never get tired of it.. Tell me I’m not the only one? 👀

[@chamberfield1]

Excellent movie. Not to mention "ground hog day" is now a universal expression that means every day is the same. A massively iconic movie.

[@for-real-tho]

I have been re-living the same day for years. Wake up, work, watch youtube, go to sleep.

[@mediumjohnsilver]

In an early script, Phil kept track of the days by reading a single page each day, first from the bookcase in the B&B, then in the local library. He finished the library, so if we assume a decent sized library of 60,000 volumes and 250 pages per book, that means that he was in the loop for about 41,000 years! It would drive him insane if his brain chemistry weren't reset to normal each morning.

[@everythingbobbywolfe]

Some early ideas/drafts have stated that the original plot had him reliving the day for over 10,000 years. Absolutely makes the moment of breaking free seem unbelievably and unimaginably satisfying

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

You'd think he'd also have some kind of letdown, knowing that he was going from basically being a god to knowing he was gonna be dead within 4 or 5 decades.

[@timw.1485]

I was lucky enough to see this in the theater when it came out. One of the best movies of all time!

[@gremmiehodad]

As others have mentioned he was to be stuck in the time loop for 10,000 YEARS! Also in the original script, Phil was put into the time loop because he was cursed by an ex-girlfriend named Stephanie! As Phil is going to bed in Punxsutawney, we see Stephanie in her room, using Phil's business cards and broken watch (conveniently set at 5:59) to perform a magic spell from a book titled "101 Curses, Spells, and Enchantments You Can Do At Home"! Also, it is Rita's (Andie McDowell) kiss that breaks the magic spell! Listen close in the movie and you can hear a tinkly magic sound as Phil and Rita lock lips! The curse is that Phil must find True Love. The rub is that he must not only truly love her, but she must Truly Love him back to break the spell! LOVE THIS MOVIE! Anytime I'm flipping through the channels and see it, I end up watching it!

[@Adino1]

Interesting. Any versions of that original script still exist?

[@reh3884]

BS

[@Emma-dh1lx]

Bet he wishes he could be stuck when he worked with Gina Davis. The man is the white version of Bill Cosby. Bill&Bill = Sex offenders 😂

[@iskate248]

They kiss lots of times before the time loop is broken

[@gremmiehodad]

@@iskate248 The spell is True Love. He must not only truly love her, but she must Truly Love him back to break the spell!

[@laotse_]

One of the wisest films ever made. We each wake up every morning with the opportunity to come closer and closer to live coming from our best self, our essence. Of course we backslide, but hopefully spiral upwards.

[@garter8774]

40+ years in a time loop would drive anyone insane beyond repair. Phil most definitely did some horrific things during that time.

[@cyberherbalist]

In case anyone missed it, the guy who Phil did the Heimlich maneuver on (Buster), was played by Bill Murray's brother, Brian Murray.

[@lifeafterlife8417]

Bill Murrays character makes reference in the movie to 6 months. He was flipping cards into a hat when Andie Mcdowell says, " it would take me years to get good at this." Phil responds, " 6 months tops. 4 hours per day."

[@gerardomalazdrewicz7514]

Yeah, but he got very good at many, many things.

[@ShowMeVegas]

That's just one thing. It took him 6 months to get good at throwing cards. He also learned how to carve ice, play the piano, learn about almost every single person in town, speak fluent French, etc...

[@misteryman526]

You know that he must have spent a lot of loops just murdering everybody he met

[@BezoRazo]

The first time I played _Dishonored,_ I was stealthy and nonviolent. I thought I would love slaughtering everyone in the second playthrough, but I quickly found it dull and unfulfiling. Go figure.

[@Jokaanan]

​@Cliff Moore sounds like what you go through during your 20s ... wait a minute

[@JadeAnnabelArt]

@@BezoRazo Okay but same, I worked so hard to get the Ghost and No Kill achievement, getting excited about the second playthrough where I'd be wild and free to kill as much as I wanted, but it was so boring? It takes more talent and skill to be unseen then it takes to go in guns blazing. I had a similar situation with sims games and cheating, I found it a lot more entertaining to not cheat and earn everything myself, then just give myself a million dollars.

[@BezoRazo]

@@JadeAnnabelArt Amen

[@michaeljames4904]

There were days when the 2A was his only entertainment, fo’sho.

[@Dr.Pepper001]

When Phil realized that toaster was not waterproof, he was shocked.

[@AetheriusLamia]

*was shocked to discover

[@jdbarr769]

Carlos?

[@realfanstv2275]

Good one Dwight

[@avernikas]

Carlos?

[@Adino1]

My grandma had that exact same toaster

[@tracksremastered7796]

I think we are forgetting the days, months, years he just spent in bed; became an expert piano player, ice sculpter and everything else we didn't see but can ponder; I'm not sure if it's in the book or the first screenplay (which was edited) there is a montage where he goes to the library every day, reads one page of a book, next day reads the next page, until he reads the entire library (How he comes to understand and record the days he's in the loop) Tortuous, but imagine the levels you could get to if you had the chance. Excellent story/film - 10/10

[@sumyunguy4150]

It's a LOVE STORY. Phil is destined to connect with his producer; the universe stops him from moving forward until he is suitably prepared for her, and she is willing to accept him and fall in love with him for real. It's a love story.

[@meropale]

On the surface, a love story, yes. But, on a deeper level it is very spiritual.

[@fgoindarkg]

She's not real.

[@TheKarishi]

If this were remade in modern day he'd have access to streaming and he'd spend 12,000 years in the time loop before getting bored of all TV and moving on to helping people. But he would, eventually, help people.

[@anarchistatheist1917]

I'm guessing he spent a significant amount of hours watching that episode of jeopardy to get the answers right while he amazes the people watching the show with him.

[@JosephDickson]

I miss quick KZbin content like this, no interruptions, no sponsors, no drawn out introductions. Thank you.

[@__hjg__2123]

Truly one of the most important movies of our time

[@marionhtjtlu]

For a moment there, I thought you were morbin' us!

[@haljones246]

The beauty of life is that we all have the opportunity to approach perfection in our lives with the simple act of loving and helping the people around us, and we have the shot and we can approach perfection by simply attempting to make each day of our lives a little better than the day before. We just need to take a deep breath and spiritually put one foot in front of the other every day, creating the beauty of our own "Groundhog Day". The movie is a work of moral genius on the part of Harold Ramis, and an absolute work of art at understanding what really makes good and moral people tick! It's utter perfection.

[@Groundhoggie_]

I saw this movie after 20 years. I got a Blu ray one. I also saw the director's comments. It explains how they decided to make this movie. Must to see.

[@joedolenza7944]

This is a lifetime top ten! Thank you for creating this. I have screened this film hundreds of times.

[@videos4mydad]

"A couple of weeks"....really? Some people think you can memorize a town in a 14 days?

[@davidwuhrer6704]

With some towns I wouldn't be surprised.

[@catalyst3713]

I always thought it was six weeks, considering the old story about the groundhog seeing his shadow meant six more weeks of winter

[@zebratangozebra]

Master the piano and carve ice sculptures

[@289cobra9]

@@zebratangozebra Don’t forget learning to speak French. Deleted scenes show Phil bowling & shooting pool like a pro and in a medical library reading books and looking at chest X-rays.

[@289cobra9]

@@catalyst3713 You think someone can learn to speak French, play piano and ice sculpturing, all like a master in 6 weeks?

[@AndrewKozley]

I always wondered what would happen if he just never went to sleep. I mean, I've had a lot of sleepless nights, but I'm not witnessing a new day, but rather a spiral, that goes deeper into my mind.

[@brochestedbs]

Seeing my piano-plying "progress" in 10 years, I reckon he took at least 200 years.

[@scifimillerguy9162]

Mozart died at age 35.

[@carlafoss9248]

Yeah, but his dad was a piano mover, so...

[@mathaha2922]

You must not have checked out the pianoAHA channel. :)

[@11JohnBooker22]

Bill saves his real life brother from choking at 2:54 seconds.

[@SANDSCORCHER]

“Who was that?” 😁 Always thought that was a nice touch👍🏻

[@fgoindarkg]

And still no Christmas card!

[@Zonker66]

I gave the first question a lot of thought years ago. I think it was longer than 30-40 years. There's going to be a lot of depression phases and total inactivity as well as learning all the skills. If he crammed, he might have learned everything in a few decades, but I think it would have taken longer.

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

I agree. Seems to me that he was in the time loop for the better part of a century. 10,000 years does seem a bit much, though. You'd think it would not take him that long to become a better person and have the girl fall in love with him.

[@streetphone4619]

"That's not bad for a quadruped," One of the funniest line of any movie - and probably ad-libbed.

[@kathleesi]

could you explain what that means? I googled it but haven't found out :D

[@streetphone4619]

@kathleesi A quadruped is an animal which has four feet. As for why it's funny, well, hmmm. I guess it's because having four legs should be the least of its troubles when it comes to driving a vehicle. It is after all a "dumb," animal. Also, in the same scene, the now classic line, "Don't drive angry! Don't drive angry!"

[@kathleesi]

@@streetphone4619 Thank you so much :)

[@joelmiller4583]

my shipmates and I when i was in the navy had this movie played twice a day every day underway on all 3 ships i served on. So we lived it and watched it alot. we also argued about it alot. 34 years is way too low. No one has calculated how long it took him to cover the the whole town and memorize everything that happens in (1) day. Also to gather the location of every person to teach him each 1 of his skills in a preinternet time/town just imagine if he had access to a modern smartphone or laptop with a high speed connection.

[@MorrisDugan]

If he had internet, he would have spent thousands of hours dealing with customer service to get anything to work.

[@moosehole646]

@@MorrisDugan Yeah but on the last day the town would have 5G

[@EarnestEgregore]

Totally agree… even with the assumption you master a skill in 10 years (which I’d say is conservative) he’s got way more than 3 or 4 things he mastered… I’d say given the personality change and how he mastered things like multiple languages and piano, he was prolly in there for at least a hundred years… like you said, he knows everything about literally everyone and everything… that takes at least one lifetime and maybe more… the pre internet aspect is key too… self teaching from whatever books he has at the library or nothing at all would take forever

[@alecskinner8807]

Agreed. And in all honesty any reasonable number is only going to be the lowest amount of time that seems likely but there’s absolutely no reason to think that he wasn’t in that day longer anyway. For all we know he may have just spent a hundred years in bed. It’s not like we have limit his actions just because it was off camera. With no real way of knowing from the film minimum year guesses are all we have.

[@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music]

Twice a day every day? WTF

[@sm5574]

There's a lot more to this movie than just a couple of religious views. I knew a preacher who said that it shows what hell a life without consequences would be. I like that it shows how life is not about your circumstances but the decisions that you make. It's a very, very deep movie, but approachable and enjoyable on virtually every level.

[@reh3884]

It has nothing to do with your religious BS.

[@sm5574]

@@reh3884, what religious BS would that be?

[@AbbeyRoadkill1]

This movie reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw: "The problem is not the problem. Your attitude about the problem is the problem. Do you understand?"

[@Saintbow]

Just think what you could become if you were caught in a time loop. You could master anything, every language, science, art, math, finances, and history, to the point where you could be unstoppable. You could learn the whole damn planet.

[@Glenn-F-Rice]

I was thinking how could you win the lottery then i remembered the bankbag. Weirdly enough i watched this last night.

[@numbersix100]

Since his alarm clock went off at the same time every morning it’s no surprise he met Ned at the same spot.

[@kcoleinvelos]

A couple of weeks? Who says that? The club of people who have never seen Groundhog Day?

[@jameschamp1406]

Aside from obvious assumption he even mentions that he practice throwing cards in the hat for 6 months

[@MrExDArte]

James Champ To add to that, he wasn't even talking about cards, he was talking about getting good about something in general. So by that time spent at least 12 months mastering skill in the loop.

[@DarthObscurity]

You guys are assuming he would immediately recognize that's how long it took him. It would take many different skills learned before he realized it would take about six months. HOW IN THE FUCK WOULD HE KNOW HOW MUCH TIME HAS PASSED ANYWAY?

[@catalyst3713]

I always thought it was six weeks, considering the old story about the groundhog seeing his shadow meant six more weeks of winter

[@andrewcarson5850]

@@catalyst3713 then you were very wrong, as are the guys who came up with 34 years. A couple of hundred years at the very least, assuming he was blessed with fantastic dexterity, memory and spiritual strength. If not, many more.

[@JerryDLTN]

Instead of reliving the same day, I'd like to relive the last 30 years on a loop.

[@ct0760]

still thinking it was way longer than 34 years, (I like the version that had him going to the library every day to read one page from one book and he completed the library)

[@JohnM...]

Did you ever have deja vu? I don't think so, but I can check with the kitchen....

[@debbieann921]

Phil may have been, to a certain extent, caught up in the exact time loop in the same way as everyone else, causing him to unconsciously perform some of the same behaviours at the same time in each loop. This would explain why he did some things differently but others the same. If he is not "consciously" making changes to his routine, then he would probably follow the exact same pattern each and every time, otherwise he could have gone somewhere else to enjoy a hot shower or walked down the street in a different direction. The other people are not aware of repeating the same day over and over again, but Phil is. This puts him into the unique position to make changes in this time loop - up to a certain point. Obviously this precludes his leaving Punxsutawney. There is also a little thing called "over-analysing", so perhaps I will just continue to enjoy the movie and not sweat the small stuff.

[@MichaelTurner856]

Nice comment

[@petermgruhn]

I think over think it. "Why does he do the same thing? It's a LOOP."

[@martyfoster7053]

I have thought for many years, that this is the best movie ever made! Everyone needs to be able to experience what Phil Connors went through!

[@HellYes000]

What the fuck

[@jakehands]

Wtf!

[@mustchoosewisely]

For those of you who lack perspective, imagine how much you could learn from all the different outcomes based on your own subtle changes daily on a repeat day with the exact same events. You'd eventually know exactly how the world works and unravel so many mysteries. The true horror would be if it NEVER ended. Even 12k days is a mere flash on a cosmic/infinite scale.

[@linchen008]

Most people do, experiencing the same day and unable to change.

[@inediblenut]

This video finally explained to me why I love this movie so much. It's become the basis of my religious, or at least spiritual, existence! My wife is still totally baffled at how this could be my favorite movie of all time.

[@peterswires8439]

This is the sort of movie that you just don't appreciate when it first comes out, then years later you think: "It's way better than most of the stuff they make these days".

[@Glycenide]

Of all the movies I walked to the theater to see (the theater was down the street from me when this came out) this film was the most enjoyable to see on the big screen.

[@djamesfrancis]

The bit where the piano teacher gushes that he's her student doesn't make sense because on that last day he would have been pretty good by the time he got to her

[@Mazzara1035]

Should have ended with them waking up together and the woman saying "this is my x number of days waking up like this" and then cut to black.

[@kadewilliams7925]

or a cut scene at the end of the movie where they both wake up in bed again, and he's stuck in the next day! Would of ruined the 'moral' of the story, but it would have been funny too.

[@seededsoul]

That would effin nuts! Wonder what her purpose would be though. Too bad Bill is too old now.

[@patrickhannon4217]

12th Doctor: Hold my beer! Couldn't resist 🤣

[@Larry]

Wasn't it in the book, where it's revealed he's lived the same day for over 100,000 years?

[@assassingamer5983]

Huh. Never thought you'd be here

[@alxwlsh]

Larry you're blooming everywhere on the interwebs

[@isorokudono]

Ten Thousand Years.

[@JayBuccola]

He spent 6 months throwing cards in a hat. 100,000 seems plausible.

[@michaelm7186]

400 years (ish)

[@bachpfeifer7926]

This is one of my all-time favorite movies. I actually got to meet Harold Ramis at a gas station near where we both lived. I told him how much I loved his movie and how much I loved his character of Old Muley on 2nd City.

[@primovid]

this is still one of my favorite movies of all time. Unmatched creativity and originality...plus it's funny as hell in an inexplicable way.

[@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239]

primovid meh ... not really.

[@davidcochrane2739]

What I love about this movie is they don't explain why this is happening - you just organically know why its happening!

[@HeatherSpoonheim]

I'm cooking in a camp these days - each rotation is 14 days straight of 10 hour shifts. I can't tell you how often I feel like I'm living in this movie.

[@babayaga1767]

34 years spending the same day over and over, it's called marriage

[@babayaga1767]

MGTOW

[@viktornavorski5800]

I am 34 years old &.unmarried :) :(

[@kotenoklelu3471]

It's called life ,😏

[@AngelRodriguez-qw4yp]

baba yaga 🤣🤣

[@JFK6781]

Totally accurate

[@Leto85]

Groundhog Day is its own sequel and prequel. In that order.

[@mjproebstle]

at the end, where he finally ‘gets the girl’, they had actually already had a long term relationship together

[@sirtanon1]

Phil was stuck in a time loop for longer than this movie has been around. Think about that.

[@OldieWan]

Groundhog day is what happens when you become an adult. Rise and shine campers!

[@coldthrills5150]

You're so right you're so right you're so right

[@ModusOperandom]

2:25 If someone asks you if you’re a God…you say YES.

[@MrChupacabra555]

You know, of all things this reminds me of something from the "Ben 10" cartoon (forget which iteration). There was a character who got 'unstuck' in time, and was transported to a timeless void. He said "Well, of course I went completely insane, but after about a millennium of that I got bored and went sane again" ^_^

[@IsmaelEYEINTHESKY]

love this movie every time it plays no matter what part I catch is see the rest of it👍

[@supergoober1021]

The big question I had was; why is the piano teacher so proud that she taught him to play? She wouldn’t remember all the lessons, and in fact, he probably didn’t go in for a lesson the day he performed for everyone and wouldn’t have any knowledge of him at all.

[@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239]

Super Goober if she was part of his routine why would he stop. He didn't know he was going to get whisked away to a new day after completing the perfect day. :p

[@supergoober1021]

@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 Your comment completely misses my point. Follow me here; The guy in the diner drops a tray of plates. To us it happens every time, day after day. But to the guy and everyone in the diner, he only does that once. Same with the piano teacher. She doesn’t know she taught him any more than that one days lesson.

[@bora3035]

@@supergoober1021 Even that day he might went to take the piano lesson and at the party while he was performing so well his teacher would say he is my student around other people.

[@roshidon]

This always struck me as a bit of marketing on her part more than being proud of him. Moreover, piano teachers all have a certain style of teaching and their students reflect that style. If he has been taught by her he will certainly display these traits.

[@justinshaddow4566]

@@roshidon truth she was totally trying to flex, I've taken many one day lessons that teachers have taken credit for...he should have played you got me babe on the key-tar. I love that he spends a ton of time seducing the one hot chick in town. The movie was groundhogs day and I think he should have gone hogging...no one would remember.

[@danalexander2149]

On the Groundhog Day DVD audio commentary, Writer/Director Harold Ramis stated that Phil was in the loop for about 11 years.

[@4362mont]

ten years according to the writer and director...was originally 10,000, but changed to ten...greatest movie ever by the way...

[@GeekRex]

One of the best movies ever created. I have seen it so many times I have lost track.

[@williamlouie569]

He doesn't have to live that day same way every time. For i.e: He can chooses to stay in bed for the day.

[@successflowstome]

May be he tried that too. After all the years, he must have.

[@nayf7682]

None of these were 'things I didn't realise about groundhog day' but then I have seen this film way too many time's as Bill Murray is my joint favourite comedic actor alongside Gene Wilder.

[@elsewho]

Sometimes I feel like I'm living the same day over and over and over again.

[@chelseagirl278]

Bob especially now 😢😂

[@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239]

Bob how's that working out for you?

[@elsewho]

Don Van Damn Johnson Long Fella .... Here we go again

[@metaspherz]

I am glad that I wasn't the only one who related the above comment to the COVID-19 quarantine.

[@edthedaddy]

he would have to spend a long time to learn all those skills he learned at the end. Iceblock carving, medicine (being a doctor). piano master, reading about Chekov. some speculated thousand years? or 40-50 years. A long time. This is something I didn't realize when I watched this movie for the first time. Only after watching it for several times and reading about it did it dawn on me that he was in this world as long as he was. An amazing story. one of my most favorite films. This scene is a tear jerker. Brilliant.

[@kingjeshua0]

To any rational person it's obvious he's spend many lifetimes in there going trough stages of insanity, obsession and in the end enlightenment about the purpose of life. In the beginning of the movie he sees the day as paradise even knowing how to get a large amount money and women. An average person could easily live thousands of variations of that day before trying to kill themselves. He learns multiple skills and in the end of the movie he was called a doctor that fixed the back of the women's husband. He knew the town like complete clockwork that alone would have taken years by itself so the 7 year claim was stupid.

[@DrTomato42009]

Great commentary (I thought) Josh!! I must agree with you!! If you care to please look above to see my comments on the movie too. Cheers! Dr. Tomato.

[@JaimeWarlock]

I had the same thought too, it would take me centuries to accomplish what he accomplished.

[@azureniosaki]

It is amazing how ignorant people can be. This is one of my all time favorite movies. I also love Joe VS the Volcano.

[@justinhackstadt6677]

JoshⓋ I clearly knew from watching as a kid even that he spent many years in there. Scary stuff, but kinda enticing at the same time. The idea that you could get out eventually makes me want it. Lol

[@mickesmanymovies]

You and I are in total agreement. I have always pictured Phil reliving Groundhog Day over and over for many hundreds of years, and I find it so difficult to understand how anyone can think he only spend a couple of years there. Even those 34 years seem like a really low number. The same goes for Edge Of Tomorrow, when people argue that Cruise must have restarted the day hundreds of times, I just think No fucking way! Getting to the point of knowing all that he knows and learning what he learns takes TENS- if not HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of restarts.

[@patrickmckinley8739]

Ned is driving the time loop. He uses it to sell insurance.

[@VanillaLimeCoke]

It's possible that Ned could have also been reliving Groundhog Day over and over again. But here's an interesting fact. In the script an ex girlfriend supposedly places a curse on him (without him knowing) using his business card and a watch stopped at 5:59. Some say that Rita's kiss broke the curse. I think too that Phil buying the life insurance also might have helped.

[@cyalknight]

VanillaLimeCoke My thought: He was auctioned off to the love interest (Rita for a day). To fulfill his obligation it took him to the next day. What would suck is, if after the obligation completed, he would go back to the time loop.

[@gangleweed]

One of my favourite movies....got it on DVD.....now I think it is the revelation of your destiny .........the ultimate fact of life......when you die you wake up being roughly pushed out of a smelly tunnel again and again, and then when you die at any time in your lives, either intentionally, by accident or old age you repeat the cycle over and over again without any ending...........when you come to realise you're being reborn over and over is what makes you the perfect person and eventually you will have perfected all your problems as you live life over and over again until you realise you have become the perfect person, fulfilled your destiny and go to a permanent rest.

[@DargoDog]

If you ever wanted to know what life is like on a submarine... This movie does a pretty good job capturing the spirit of it...

[@jcasetnl]

Whether it was 30 - 40 years or a thousand years, a dark thing about this film no one talks about is it took Murray's character that long to learn to stop being a jerk.

[@ericdebord]

if you like groundhog day, them you will love. "Tom Cruise, Edge of Tomorrow " same plot but its WW3 , and the enemys are aliens. great movie......

[@n.randall6152]

Good movie!

[@RobbieBoy33]

Can't stand Tom, unfortunately.

[@antibodiesagainstkookery3871]

@@RobbieBoy33 If you can't stand Tom Cruise, you'll like Edge Of Tomorrow. He dies several times in it.

[@Craig-ib7gk]

EOT is an *outstanding* movie, and that is painfully difficult for me to admit with my utter distaste for nearly everything Tom Cruise has ever done, and probably will ever do. It is just plain awesome, and if you're remotely sci-fi interested I cannot recommend it enough.

[@TogetherinParis]

me again, actually

[@danieljakubik3428]

I have seen this classic 1993 film many times and continue to enjoy it to this day. Groundhog Day exceeds expectations for the comedy genre with an inventive, clever story and warm emotion.

[@Woadyn]

Ground Hog Day remains one of my favorite movies of all time!

[@allnamesaretakenful]

He must have taken hot showers when he really wanted. He could go somewhere else and take a hot shower. He probably even broke into people's houses to take hot showers, knowing that things will just start over in less than 24 hours.

[@justinhackstadt6677]

I might be talking out my ass, but I would love to relive a day forever. At least for about a millennium or so. Lol

[@alexgataric]

Especially when there are no consequences for your actions.

[@gangleweed]

@@alexgataric Oh yeah?.....imagine being caught doing whatever and having to pay the penalty like being on the gallows, or the guillotine or as a bitch for some guy in prison.

[@KatorNia]

@@gangleweed So what? Getting killed (or killing himself to skip being a prison bitch) will reset the day.

[@timslee2573]

@@gangleweed After 1000 attempts you'd probably figure out the moves to escape. But yeah, would be a shit gig.

[@AndrewCortesi]

Agreed!

[@RealityCheck6969]

And after all those decades one day he just moved on with his life and he was just a regular guy again. Must have hurt.

[@wesleytillman9774]

I heard that Harold Ramis, the writer and director, once said in an interview that Phil was in the time loop for about 10 years. It took him ten years to get the girl just for one day and that's because she couldn't stand his personality to the point it took ten years of tweaking to make it happen once. The problem is, outside of the time loop, how long will it be before his basic self re-emerges without revision and the relationship falls apart. Could they even make it a week?

[@jebbryant6522]

At the 10 year point that just becomes the new you. I don't know how old you are but let's say you're 25. Would you start acting like you did when you were 15 next week? Probably not because 10 years is a long ass time to develop as a person maybe if the loops only took him say 3 months or something he'd default back to his original personality but after 10 years even if you were acting at the start you'd be mentally conditioned to act that way

[@wesleytillman9774]

@@jebbryant6522 Yes, but you have to consider that it took him ten years to tweak one day into having success with this woman. That doesn't look promising outside this bizarre bubble of reality that was his ten year trap. There's every indication basic personality is set by the time you reach adulthood and is primarily genetic. He may have learned ways not to offend her after it took him ten years to find the perfect formula that made something happen on Groundhog Day, but it's also likely that the many negative personality traits that he may not be aware of will reassert themselves now that each day is again a one shot deal. Now there's no way for him to discover the complex path that allowed him to run between the raindrops of his negative personal side that caused him to fail an amazing number of times.

[@kjn3350]

@@wesleytillman9774 If we're going to talk about science, we have to mention neural pathways, which means that he actually would become the person he trained himself to be, assuming there isn't some neural change after he's released from the cycle, since he's done this so much that it is now his standard behaviour.

[@wesleytillman9774]

@@kjn3350 Standard behavior for that specific day for the purpose of getting the girl. Once outside that day there would probably be a relapse to a significant degree. He has learned how to woe her but it came after fate had utilized drastic measures to say the least helping him finally find a way out of the labyrinth of his character that overall definitely didn't suit her. Most couples that match from the beginning have trouble as the relationship ages. What about two characters that didn't for so very long until he found the specific formula as he submerged many aspects of his nature? Character is primarily genetic and fixed by elementary school.

[@dadrocha7741]

It will never get old.

[@ThePostalbiker]

the reason he keeps meeting the guy in the hallway and ned so many times is because he has to do his groundhog report at the same time ..

[@davidstout6051]

It’s also a depiction of Nietzche’s idea that a truly happy person would be able to live the same day over and over without changing anything. Reaching this point is what sets the main character free. I find the original Star Wars movie similar in that it too can be understood as illustrating a variety of religious and philosophical concepts. Enjoyed this video.

[@metaspherz]

Fun movie that gets to explore all the many variations of human interaction with other humans as well as one's self.